Plug Wire

[obone 142]

Guys,

I was wondering if someone could direct me to where I can get a good somewhat cheap spark plug wire (high tension lead) part number 238057. It's for a K241S. The Toro one says 50 bucks and one from the auto store is only 16, but is 60 inches long. Thanks!

[squonk 42,829]

Napa:

 

734803 metallic wire  @  $.50 a foot

727006 90 deg plug terminal @ $.50 ea

727303  coil nipple @  $ .70 ea.

727003  coil termina l@   $ .50 ea

727402 Plug boot   @ $2.50 ea. 

 

You can make your own wire any length you want. I sprung for the special crimp tool because I make a lot of wires but with some patience you can use regular crimpers. The right crimper is 726618 @$ 53.00

[Big_Red_Fred 1,548]

But are they 953Nut Approved ? LOL he sent me a nice pair

[Electro12WH 50]

Treat yourself to something nice! The Brillman Co. sells braided plug wire for a buck and a half a foot. Add some Raja clips. 

https://brillman.com/

 

[obone 142]

Yeah, but how good are the make your own compared to the premade?

[DarrellF 33]

Make your own is always better Because I try to make my own anything possible then I know its right.

 

[Electro12WH 50]

Back in the day, (never thought I'd say that) Packard 440 wire and Raja clips was as good as it got. For a few bucks, you can test it out and tell us what you think.

[ebinmaine 71,097]

On 7/21/2017 at 5:34 PM, squonk said:

Napa:

 

734803 metallic wire  @  $.50 a foot

727006 90 deg plug terminal @ $.50 ea

727303  coil nipple @  $ .70 ea.

727003  coil termina l@   $ .50 ea

727402 Plug boot   @ $2.50 ea. 

Will these numbers work for My 75 B80?

I need a decent quality plug wire...

[squonk 42,829]

Yes they will. I keep those items in my tool box. Need a wire at a show,out it comes and in 5 min we have a plug wire. 

[ebinmaine 71,097]

1 minute ago, squonk said:

Yes they will. I keep those items in my tool box. Need a wire at a show,out it comes and in 5 min we have a plug wire. 

Sweet. Thanks for the fast response!

[ebinmaine 71,097]

1 hour ago, squonk said:

Yes they will. I keep those items in my tool box. Need a wire at a show,out it comes and in 5 min we have a plug wire. 

Never made a plug wire... Obviously I need to slide the coil boot on before I crimp that end but what about the plug end?

Looks like it could be done before or after. What's easier?

Thanks.

[squonk 42,829]

Strip the wire about 3/4" Spray silicone into the plug boot and on the last few inches of the wire. Slide the boot on and then fold the bare wire over and crimp on the plug terminal. Then pull the wire so the plug terminal slides into the boot. I use a phillips screwdriver to line up the terminal and seat it into the " 90" of the boot.

[tunahead72 2,521]

Hey @ebinmaine, thanks for getting this thread going again, I've been curious about this recently.  I'm no expert, and I've never made my own spark plug wires either, but I do have a couple of thoughts:

 

First, there's "genuine" new Kohler spark plug wires (same part number 238057, or 238057-S) on eBay for about $35 with shipping.  These are sometimes advertised as kits, and it looks like you need to put them together and crimp the ends like @squonk describes.

 

Another option comes from Kirk Engines (kirkengines.com), which has an 18" long plug wire that "fits virtually all single and twin-cylinder Kohler and Onan engine applications", for $12 with shipping.  I've never dealt with Kirk's, but others here speak highly of them.  The wire is described as "highest quality", and it looks like it's a complete assembly, no further assembly required.

 

@squonk, you might be able to make a little extra pocket change if you were willing to make up some of these wires at the Big Show next year.  If you could keep the price reasonable, I'd buy one from you, but I would want to be able to watch the assembly process, just to learn how.  Just a thought.

 

[ebinmaine 71,097]

1 hour ago, tunahead72 said:

watch the assembly process, just to learn how.

I'll try to remember 

[squonk 42,829]

Ed, I can make up a wire and post pics. Give me a few days. 

 

Just keep @elcamino/wheelhorse at bay so I'm not laughing through the process. 

 

 

Edited November 6, 2017 by squonk

[tunahead72 2,521]

Excellent Mike, thanks.  I'll do what I can to keep Jim distracted, but YOU DID JUST SEND HIM A NOTICE THAT YOU'LL BE WORKING ON THIS.  As near as I can tell he's only about 8 hours away from you, he could be at your front door by dinnertime today.

 

So @elcamino/wheelhorse, how's the weather down there?

 

[ebinmaine 71,097]

@tunahead72, you're welcome.... I had to order a couple of the parts and I should see them later today or tomorrow morning.

8 hours ago, squonk said:

I can make up a wire and post pics

I'd appreciate that too

[doc724 925]

Stens 135-178, $14.70, Bought it for my C125

[Sarge 3,464]

I can make just about any plug wire you want - in any color and boot configuration . Even have the nicer old Belden wire crimper here that Dad left me when he passed . I used to just buy a roll of high quality Belden or Packard cable and an assortment of high temperature ends and make my own for all my engines including the cars/trucks . I'll have to do some digging and see if I still have that big box of assorted heavy duty wire ends somewhere around here....hard telling where too .

Sarge

[squonk 42,829]

@tunahead72 Here's the wire making process:

 

I needed to make one for my C-160 anyway!  Sorry for some blurry pics. My phone wouldn't focus on a couple of them for some reason

 

The special crimp tool.  It has a cutter, stripper, 7 & 8MM pre-crimp slot and 7 and 8 *MM final crimp slot. On the end is a 90 deg distributor crimp slot.

 

 

 

 

The parts laid out. the clip on the bottom is a coil terminal used on some older engines. I haven't run across one of these in years but I keep one just to have.

 

 

first cut the wire to length.

 

 

Strip ends.

 

 

 

silicone the wire and slide the boots on

 

Fold the wire over

 

 

Slide the terminal on the wire making sure the bare wire is opposite the crimp. Put it in the "Pre Crimp slot.

 

End pre-crimped

 

 

final crimp

 

Same process for the plug end. After crimping I give the boot and wire a good shot of silicone and pulled the wire into the boot. This one slide right in and I didn't have to give it any help to align and seat it.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 9, 2017 by squonk

[elcamino/wheelhorse 9,360]

@tunahead72 , @squonk I seemed to have missed this thread with my name taken in vain. One the weather has been rainy and cool for most of the week. Skonk I hope you did not laugh while taking pictures , I did. Did you take photo lessons from @Big_Red_Fred ?

Where is @stevasaurusor his thin twin Steve on a stick ? Mike I think you should present a class on creating a plug wire at the Big Show, while sleeping on the bench 

[ebinmaine 71,097]

20 minutes ago, elcamino/wheelhorse said:

Did you take photo lessons from @Big_Red_Fred ?

I wasn't wondering if there was peanut butter on the lense... really. I wasn't.

 

I hope someday I'll make a trip out to the mid-west to meet you folks...

 

33 minutes ago, squonk said:

Here's the wire making process:

Thanks for posting this !!

Sooo... "food grade" silicone?? Hmmm.... Tasty?

[squonk 42,829]

I work on kitchen equipment and it's on the truck. Plus it isn't as smelly as regular silicone.

[ebinmaine 71,097]

42 minutes ago, squonk said:

Plus it isn't as smelly as regular silicone.

Too bad no-one makes food grade spray paint.

[953 nut 58,337]

1 hour ago, elcamino/wheelhorse said:

@tunahead72 , @squonk I seemed to have missed this thread with my name taken in vain. One the weather has been rainy and cool for most of the week. Skonk I hope you did not laugh while taking pictures , I did. Did you take photo lessons from @Big_Red_Fred ?

Where is @stevasaurusor his thin twin Steve on a stick ? Mike I think you should present a class on creating a plug wire at the Big Show, while sleeping on the bench 

Jim, thank you so much for NOT including me in that infamous grouping!