Just some old tools and other stuff (pics)

[AMC RULES 36,945]

Looks like a toothpick vise. 

[formariz 11,849]

@ebinmaineHere are some rare unique items from your old neighborhood. The famous "Buck Rogers" line of tools from 1950. These are NOS.

 

[ebinmaine 63,115]

28 minutes ago, formariz said:

ebinmaineHere are some rare unique items from your old neighborhood

Those 

 

Are

 

Awesome

 

 

[LengerichKA88 1,881]

1 hour ago, formariz said:

@ebinmaineHere are some rare unique items from your old neighborhood. The famous "Buck Rogers" line of tools from 1950. These are NOS.

 

You see stuff that is still original and looks good, but seeing essesntially brand new tools from the 50s is unheard of! 

Neat stuff! 

Edited March 19, 2019 by LengerichKA88

[formariz 11,849]

48 minutes ago, LengerichKA88 said:

You see stuff that is still original and looks good, but seeing essesntially brand new tools from the 50s is unheard of! 

They are out there. I have many here actually earlier than that, like from the early  1900s.

Edited March 19, 2019 by formariz

[Pullstart 59,688]

My head hurts trying to figure everything on that tool out!  Wow.

[formariz 11,849]

48 minutes ago, pullstart said:

My head hurts trying to figure everything on that tool out!  Wow.

LOL. Allow me to then give you a migraine. The most ingenious woodworking tool ever developed in my opinion. It can make nearly 100 different moldings without ever being plugged into electricity.

 

 

 

 

[ebinmaine 63,115]

On 3/18/2019 at 11:01 AM, formariz said:

@ebinmaineIs the large level on wall a Starrett? Also the small ax, does it happen to be a Plumb with the Boy Scouts emblem engraved on it?

the smaller level on the left that is made out of wood is a Stanley. Clearly marked. The smaller level on the right and the larger level on the bottom are made for either flat surfaces or pipe. Neither one of them has any markings whatsoever that I can see in the bright sunlight. Most of the black paint is gone from the smaller one and nearly all of the black paint is still intact and quite wrinkled up on the larger one. They appear to have been a matched set.

 

Good call on the name brand of the hatchet. You can see in the picture below that it is a Plumb brand.

I don't see any BSA symbols on it anywhere but it is extremely worn. Somebody really used this thing well for many years.

 

[formariz 11,849]

1 hour ago, ebinmaine said:

Most of the black paint is gone from the smaller one and nearly all of the black paint is still intact and quite wrinkled up on the larger one. They appear to have been a matched set.

I am pretty certain that they are both from Starrett. They have all the tell tale signs.

Axes head shape are also a tell tale sign as to what manufacturer they are from. Then the size kind  of made me think it may be a Boy Scouts model although other manufacturers also made them with the Boy Scouts' logo. They are a sought after tool along with the very rare knife that @Ed Kennell has.

[LengerichKA88 1,881]

I had one of those BSA knives, bought it at an antique store for 15 bucks when I was 11 or 12. It was confiscated from me because it was a fixed blade, and we were only allowed to have Swiss army style pocket knives 🙄. 

The Scout Master took it and promised to give it back, I didn’t say anything to my parents because I thought I was in the wrong, and I eventually forgot about it. Still have my Totin Chip card in my wallet though. Sits right between my carry permit and my prisoner escort card 😂🤣

[Ed Kennell 35,767]

On ‎3‎/‎18‎/‎2019 at 11:15 AM, formariz said:

 

 

  I find it interesting to note on the three BSA axes shown,   the PLUMB  stamp is on the same side, but at three different locations.     

[LengerichKA88 1,881]

22 hours ago, formariz said:

 

What exactly is this? I’ve been trying to figure it out but I’m stumped. 

 

Hand crank ink pen? 

[ebinmaine 63,115]

29 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said:

 

  I find it interesting to note on the three BSA axes shown,   the PLUMB  stamp is on the same side, but at three different locations.     

I was noticing on my own that it is not in the same place as others. I found that Odd as well.

 

Hand stamped Maybe?

[Ed Kennell 35,767]

Hand drill with keyless chuck.

[LengerichKA88 1,881]

10 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said:

Hand drill with keyless chuck.

 

This is what I always thought of when I’d heard “Hand drill”. 

Is there a difference in intended applications, or just differences in design? 

Sorry if I’m asking remedial questions, but these are 30+ years before my time. 

[Sarge 3,462]

I believe those levels are from either Starret or Brown and Sharpe - both companies made some very decorative looking cast levels prior to the 60's.

 

EB - you live in a very interesting section of the country - Starrett, Brown and Sharpe, as well as many other high-quality tool companies, are all located in that region.

 

The offset handle hand drills are for the larger bit sizes and can be had with bit and brace style chucks, keyed, keyless, and even Morse taper designs to hold the drill bits. The gear drives are intended for smaller bits and/or metal work that requires higher speeds.

 

@formariz - with your woodworking backround, or Eb - have either of you seen the hand tools from Lamson? They are in EB's neck of the woods and make some of the best high carbon steel putty knives and stiff blade scrapers available. The disgusting part is their cost - they are pretty cheap for being such a high quality tool. In comparison to the Chinese junk sold by most hardware chains in this country these days - Lamson will sell you their products cheaper, or at least around the same price but the stores won't stock them due to markup and profit. I've just about completely stopped buying anything from local Ace Hardware stores for that reason alone. I'd be willing to pay double the retail amount for a quality tool versus some junk from China that is not up to any job and designed to be disposable. Lamson can easily be found at any restoration work tool supplier, or high quality USA made specific suppliers. Look them up - well worth the time.

 

I still troll and buy any Starrett, Brown and Sharpe, Luftkin, or Mitutoyo machinist tools - this stuff is built to last a lifetime and is fully serviceable.

Sarge

[ebinmaine 63,115]

I've seen those tools from Lamson. I'm not sure if I own any or not. Shelburne Falls is almost if not right next door to Millers Falls.

Westfield, where the plant is, is about an hour south of where I grew up. Near Springfield Massachusetts.

 

 

I've been by those Brown & Sharpe factories. They are absolutely massive. Basically towns in and of themselves.

 

 

[formariz 11,849]

2 hours ago, Ed Kennell said:

I find it interesting to note on the three BSA axes shown,   the PLUMB  stamp is on the same side, but at three different locations.     

That is not unusual, however I have never seen one as low as EB's right on the cheek. The ideal examples should have it right up top and centered on the head if you are a hard core collector of them.

[formariz 11,849]

2 hours ago, LengerichKA88 said:

This is what I always thought of when I’d heard “Hand drill”. 

Is there a difference in intended applications, or just differences in design? 

Sorry if I’m asking remedial questions, but these are 30+ years before my time. 

Good of you to ask. Its actually interesting that the photo you found is actually the brace from the "Buck Rogers" Millers Falls line, also pretty rare. I have one but not NOS like the other ones.

The differences in design are basically  for the intended function and applications. Within those two designs there are also many variations for specialty purposes.

In a nutshell the hand drills are for essentially holes up to about 3/8" (already stretching it a bit) in a variety of materials, not just strictly wood.

The brace is used for larger holes which require more torque to accomplish. The big offset handle (usually 10") gives you that leverage. Bits for them (augers) have a screw point to aid in the process. Many different specialty bits can be used with it such as tenon cutters, dowel pointers, etc. I keep each one with a different one so I don't have to change them. They are also extremely use full to drive screws, specially large ones into wood due not only by the torque achieved but also because of the reversible ratching action which they have ( metal braces only). I use them for that function all of the time.

[LengerichKA88 1,881]

@formariz

Thank you for the break down. I’ve never used a drill that wasn’t powered, and never seen one used. Would be neat to have and put to work though. 

[formariz 11,849]

@Sarge I actually had never heard of Lamson before. Seems they are more geared to cutlery from what I see. Luckily for me I have enough woodworking tools to last a few generations to say the least. What ever I buy now is basically for collecting purposes although I always use them except for the obvious ones like NOS stuff. Honestly, with very few exceptions, any woodworking hand tool commercially manufactured after 1980 is not worth buying.

[formariz 11,849]

1 hour ago, LengerichKA88 said:

@formariz

Thank you for the break down. I’ve never used a drill that wasn’t powered, and never seen one used. Would be neat to have and put to work though. 

You are not alone. You are not in the woodworking or carpentry business but I can assure you  that most that are today, have never had one in their hands. (that will be a rant for another post I guess). You will be surprised on how easy and satisfying it is. No dependency on electrical power and on costly tools and batteries that constantly need replacement. Today they are constantly coming up with all kinds of new drills and "contraptions" to achieve the same result (although faster). Essentially reinventing the wheel. We always have to have the latest and the "greatest". These things have been around essentially in the same form for hundreds of years and will be for hundreds more and working while all cordless drills will have ceased to exist. Give them a try. You can pick them up at a flea market or garage sale for peanuts. It will be like a Wheel horse. Addictive.

[LengerichKA88 1,881]

8 minutes ago, formariz said:

You are not alone. You are not in the woodworking or carpentry business but I can assure you  that most that are today, have never had one in their hands. (that will be a rant for another post I guess). You will be surprised on how easy and satisfying it is. No dependency on electrical power and on costly tools and batteries that constantly need replacement. Today they are constantly coming up with all kinds of new drills and "contraptions" to achieve the same result (although faster). Essentially reinventing the wheel. We always have to have the latest and the "greatest". These things have been around essentially in the same form for hundreds of years and will be for hundreds more and working while all cordless drills will have ceased to exist. Give them a try. You can pick them up at a flea market or garage sale for peanuts. It will be like a Wheel horse. Addictive.

My aunt and I were just talking about this yesterday: How it turns out the “Latest and Greatest” is already an old concept. It’s amazing when you think about how many different items we think are newer that have been around much much longer. 

[formariz 11,849]

Here are the ones I use constantly. Also on last photos you have my favorite for quick small hole drilling such as pilot holes. Push drill.

 

 

 

[Pullstart 59,688]

I used to tap our maples with a hand drill, kind of one of those “brings you in touch” with those we’ve lost, but have been in these boots before.  Since the move, things are so scattered that I haven’t find half of my tools yet... the hand drills being some on the list!