Tires on 953 sickle

[cafoose 3,668]

Been having problems with traction on my 953 I got from @Ed Kennellwith the SMS-50. I first put chains on it and that improved it a lot but it was very bumpy. I found four used 14 inch side by side tires on FB for $20 Put the 27-9-14s on it and it pulls like a dozer  I still have the 27-11-14s I'm thinking of trying but I need wider wheels. What size wheels for the 27-11-14?

[oliver2-44 11,326]

FWIW if you go wider you will lose some of your traction, or you will need to add more weight. 

Edited yesterday at 03:13 PM by oliver2-44

[Treepep 1,087]

Ya mean add more weight?

[Ed Kennell 45,323]

3 hours ago, cafoose said:

  27-9-14s on it and it pulls like a dozer  I still have the 27-11-14s I'm thinking of trying   Why, Ya want it to pull like a tank?  Don't break my tractor Chuck.   

                                                                     

[Pullstart 69,237]

It looks like the right side tire has more traction?  I’d flip flop that to the left, and add left side weight however you can.  I stacked two weights on the left and have none on the right of my 753 sickle machine.

[Ed Kennell 45,323]

2 hours ago, Pullstart said:

It looks like the right side tire has more traction?

Definitely has more traction than the right wheel I had on it.

[cafoose 3,668]

10 hours ago, Ed Kennell said:

                                                                     

Don't worry Ed, I don't pull anything with it. Only run the sickle  

 

10 hours ago, Pullstart said:

It looks like the right side tire has more traction?  I’d flip flop that to the left, and add left side weight however you can.  I stacked two weights on the left and have none on the right of my 753 sickle machine.

Noticed the sickle side was much heavier when I jacked it up to change the tires  I may have to add more weight to the opposite side  Maybe I'll put an 8 speed in it so I can go slower and cut more efficiently sometimes even first gear seems too fast for the sickle  Does your 753 have high/low range Kevin?

[Pullstart 69,237]

5 hours ago, cafoose said:

Does your 753 have high/low range Kevin?

yes, an 8 speed was swapped in.  I use low range often.  

[953 nut 64,647]

8 hours ago, cafoose said:

Maybe I'll put an 8 speed in it

            A six speed would be an easy swap because the brake linkage is the same. If you have an extra GT-14 axle and differential around they could go into the six speed for the limited slip feature.

 

[cafoose 3,668]

1 hour ago, 953 nut said:

If you have an extra GT-14 axle and differential around they could go into the six speed for the limited slip feature.

GT-14 all have limited slip? Is there room for the high/low lever in the 953 without modification? What all  have the six speed?

Edited 4 hours ago by cafoose

[Handy Don 16,057]

7 minutes ago, cafoose said:

GT-14 all have limited slip?

News to me. Perhaps the reference was to the longer axles in the GT-14 which could be paired with an LSD from elsewhere?

 

5060 and 5071 Unidrives are "6-speed with limited slip differentials". 5060 with aluminum endplates and 5071 with steel. 

 

[cafoose 3,668]

3 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

5060 and 5071 Unidrives are "6-speed with limited slip differentials". 5060 with aluminum endplates and 5071 with steel. 

Is there a casting number or tag that identifies the different unidrives?

[953 nut 64,647]

1 hour ago, cafoose said:

GT-14 all have limited slip? Is there room for the high/low lever in the 953 without modification? What all  have the six speed?

My 1970 GT-14 has a limited slip transaxle.

I installed a six speed in a 953 many years ago, at the time I didn't know about the GT-14 axle swap. I did have to drill and tap a new hole in the case for the mounting point and elongated a hole in the mounting plate.     No Pictures but it was no big deal.

This thread will give you all the answers about six and eight speeds.

 

[Handy Don 16,057]

The external characteristics for “6-speeds” are:

- 1-2-3-R shifter

- Hi-lo shifter

- No top-side hole for a dipstick

- A 1” pipe extension on the oil fill at the lower left rear of the transaxle (allows filling oil to a higher level)

- ¾” input drive shaft (that’s also shorter than later 8-speeds’ ⅝” shaft)

- A brake drum that brings the brake band to within an inch of the rear axle housing casting

- A brake drum that turns clockwise when the tractor is moving forward

 

There was at least one “8-speed” that also had a LSD--I think it was the 5073. This had a topside dipstick port and the brake drum was farther from the rear axle and turned counter-clockwise and had a ⅝” input shaft making it externally indistinguishable from an open-differential 8-speed.

 

As for the rest, the link to the thread in @953 nut’s post (above) has the relevant information. 

[cafoose 3,668]

9 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

The external characteristics for “6-speeds” are:

- 1-2-3-R shifter

- Hi-lo shifter

- No top-side hole for a dipstick

- A 1” pipe extension on the oil fill at the lower left rear of the transaxle (allows filling oil to a higher level)

- ¾” input drive shaft (that’s also shorter than later 8-speeds’ ⅝” shaft)

- A brake drum that brings the brake band to within an inch of the rear axle housing casting

- A brake drum that turns clockwise when the tractor is moving forward

 

There was at least one “8-speed” that also had a LSD--I think it was the 5073. This had a topside dipstick port and the brake drum was farther from the rear axle and turned counter-clockwise and had a ⅝” input shaft making it externally indistinguishable from an open-differential 8-speed.

 

As for the rest, the link to the thread in @953 nut’s post (above) has the relevant information. 

@stevasaurus Thoughts?