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Hello chaps, England calling.... I attempted to watch your Super Bowl "Football" game last night on the old televisual apparatus. The time delay is most awfully inconvenient, you chaps should really consider moving the kick off time to allow we English fellows to watch at a decent hour. Well. I must say I really can't understand why you insist on calling it football, there seemed to be very little use of the feet. Apart of course from propelling the players to the sidelines for a sit down every few minutes. Is that normal in your game? Would it not be better to make the chaps stay on the field just a tad longer? But I suppose they do need a little rest after all the Hoo Haa and dancing every time someone touches the ball, could you not just shake hands and give a hearty slap on the back like we folk do? And all that body armour and helmets! Goodness me those chaps are carrying so much clutter around with them. Over here we don't bother with all that malarkey. Just a bit of tape and a cloth scrum cap is enough to cover most eventualities. And this chap they call the quarter back? He seems to be quite important, making all the plays and such. Why does he have to have everything written on his arm? Surely he can remember a few bits and bobs. And he was off the field more than he was on it. Our chaps stay on for the full 80 minutes, unless less they break something or need a few stitches. All in all it was a pretty confusing game as far as I could see. What the blonde girl drinking lager had to do with it goodness knows, but her gentleman friend seemed rather upset at one point, maybe it was his beer, I don't know. I managed to watch the first quarter, or part of a half or some such. Really do you need to split a game of two halves down still further? Isn't it enough with all the first downs and 3rd and ten breaks in play? You chaps should have a squint at the six nations rugby tournament that is going on over here at the moment. You might pick up a few ideas. I have a few suggestions for your other little game, baseball is it? Perhaps some stumps and bowling the ball properly might make is just a tad more interesting. Anyway. Its been such fun chatting, but I have to go to the hospital now to have my tongue surgically removed from my cheek. Hope you fellows aren't too miffed at my critique of your little game. Ta ta for now old bean. Sir Nigel Molesworth Esq.

Just did a refresh on this. It will be put to work immediately.

I hooked up the trailer and this thing hopped right on it. Dang, I hate when that happens. It even brought its own tiller. The auctioneer said the PO told him it won't run. He had bought it and couldn't get it started and he thought the tiller may be stuck too. I got it home and an hour later it was running. The tiller is good too. I don't know how to tell how old it is. Model# 1-7255, ser# 642966. I can't find. Model# for the tiller. According to the MPV, if it came with the tractor. It should be # 1-1211. I think an Electro 12 auto is just what I needed.🤠🤠

Remembering “Old Abe” J. I. Case & Company history would be incomplete without reference to its trademark. The 'Case Eagle' is far more than merely a trademark. She is a character out of history, a live bird with a personality and a story all her own. The logo is based on an eagle that became the Wisconsin 8th Regiment's Civil War mascot that they named 'Old Abe', after Abe Lincoln who was president at the time. The story begins when the eaglet had fallen out of its nest in the early spring of 1861 and found by a Chippewa native American who sold the eaglet for a bushel of corn to a settler named Daniel McCann to raise as a pet. The eagle was getting too large for McCann to keep. The Civil War was beginning and many soldiers have a weakness for mascots. He sold the eagle for $2.50 to Capt. Perkins, the Wisconsin 8th Regiment's Company 'C' commander and it became their mascot in the war. Throughout the bitter Civil War struggle, 'Old Abe' went through 36 battles and skirmishes, and the 8th Regiment was known as the Eagle Regiment. 'Old Abe' was in her glory during battle. It was then that her eye flashed with uncommon luster. With her wild piercing cry, she was familiar to men on both sides of the fight and gained equal respect as a brave and courageous fighter. After the war the eagle became very famous across the country, appearing at many parades and functions. In 1881 'Old Abe' died at Wisconsin's State Capitol, from smoke inhalation after enduring a fire. She had lived there for many years. 'Old Abe' was 20 years old when she passed. A monument of 'Old Abe' still stands in front of the Wisconsin State Capitol today. J. I. Case encountered the eagle while on a business trip to Eau Claire where the Wisconsin's 8th Regiment was parading. Over the rumble of drums and the tramp of marching feet, the bird was screaming her battle cry. Case questioned a boy standing along side him, "Where did it come from, the eagle?" The boy told him 'Old Abe's story. Then and there J. I.Case was determined to adopt the eagle 'Old Abe' as the symbol of his business. In 1969, the J. I. Case Company introduced a new series of agricultural tractors christened the "Agri-King" line. At the same time, after more than 100 years, the 'Old Abe' trademark was retired and replaced by a new corporate symbol, the Casemark.

Me thinks you all missed the real attraction of football.

Nigel, you seem to be under the misconception that the ball being carried or thrown past the end of the field is what this show is all about. In fact allowing time to have multiple advertisements is the objective. The well protected gentlemen following the rules and being panelized for stepping over the line too soon or having the wrong person catching the ball is the intermission so a bathroom visit can be made without missing an advertisement. What medical specialist removes the tongue from the cheek?

Hi lads, sorry about my cousin. Looks like Sir Nigel got hold of my phone while he was visiting and posted on here using my login. In no way do I go along with his post about the big game. If anyone is upset at his post I can send you his address, or you can let me know and I'll pass your messages along to him. I did winder about the coin toss though, did seem to take such a long time. I watch the little kids play soccer on the sports field opposite my home. Rain, snow or blow they are out there playing their socks off, no big money or roles watches in sight. I once watched a couple of girls soccer teams, women's sport is really big at present over here, I remarked at hiw skilfully they were and one mum said "You have to keep an eye on them, they can be right little b1tch3s, pulling hair and biting" lol.

I decided to read my book and not watch any of it. Not regretting the decision.

I would point out that Plastigage provides a single point of measurement between *two* parts. That single point of measurement may be sufficient for new parts that have just been machined and are known to be flat or round (in this case). But for used parts that are likely to be oval, bellied, bent, etc, a more thorough dimensional analysis of both parts is in order, and that's best done with calipers, verniers, micrometers, and such.

Unfortunately the game has been taken over by big money and money is what it is all about! How I long for those early games in the sixties and seventies,where there where not so many millionaires involved. Now I will get off my Bob

As Jim stated todays adventure was a weight bar for the front of the tractor. I started with a piece of 2" square tubing then cut out a few pieces to start the puzzle. With all of the pieces cut out it was time to burn these parts together. This assembly now easily snaps into place using the front & rear Tach-o-matic's On to the next piece. Using a piece of 3/8" bar stock, a cut out from using the hole saw, a spring, and a 3/4" pipe cap I assembled this contraption. What's this for?? Well after I drilled a hole in the 2" tubing and welded a piece or 3/4" pipe on to the square tube, I screwed the pipe cap on to the pipe. I now have a spring loaded pin that will hold the second tube in place. Drilled 3/8" lock holes in a piece of 1 1/2" square tube 6" apart. Then made some pieces that will hold the weights on to the end of this tube and welded this assembly together . Slide these parts together and I now have a weight bar that can be adjusted in order to get the weight where it is needed. This pic has the weight bracket slid all the way in. Weight bracket slid all the way out. A weight bracket ain't much good unless you have some weight to put on it. I had a stick of 3/4" X 6" flat stock laying around for the last 10yrs or so, perfect candidate for some ballast. Did some math to figure out that if if I cut this into 10" lengths, each one will weight a little over 12lbs. Perfect for my needs. As long as Jim was hangin' around I enlisted his help to get the 10' chunk out from where it was buried in the shop. Thanks Jim!! Then I got out my trusty 4 1/2" grinder and used it to cut the flat stock up. Moved these chunks over to the drill press to poke some holes in them. Unfortunately the bars on my weight bracket pulled in a bit when I welded them so I will have to massage the holes a bit, but that will be a job for another day.

Brennanbo and I discussed this option too. I will probably be dragging the hotel on wheels with minimal garage space. He and a buddy may haul the 18’ trailer behind his rig.

@squonk and I are booked at the Quality Inn. Be there Wednesday, Hope to see you there.

While doing some consulting work at Case IH headquarters in Racine Wisconsin, I learned a lot about the company. In the late 90’s it was expanding by acquiring agricultural equipment makers all over the world. I visited several of the plants, but one parts manufacturing plant in Canada really stood out. There two operators in shirtsleeves ran a complete computerized line that cut, shaped, treated, prepped, painted, and packaged cultivator and plow discs. They were able to run batches as small as ONE unit. Nearly everything made during a day was shipped out direct to dealers within an hour or so of the end of the workday. Urgent orders were slotted into production immediately often “hitting the dirt” the next day. The only significant inventory was raw materials and packing supplies. Tractor makers have come a LONG way.

I personally like Sir Nigel's take on the game. I will occasionally watch our "football", but would much rather watch your "football" where the foot and ball are the main two things in the game, not some blond bimbo drinking beer and asking her friends 'what just happened?' And the advertising really sucked this year. $7 million for 30 seconds? And don't get me started on half-time.

Our dear departed nORM (Stormin) hated that we called it football. @stevasaurus and I would get him riled up talking Bears/Packers on Skype. Good Times Back in the 60's, Teams had like 15 plays. How else could John Madden sit all day at a coach's seminar with Vince Lombardi and St. Vince talked all day about 1 play? Qb's called their own plays and you could "smear" them. Defensive players could do the "head slap" A move I used to do all the time playing street football. Kickers kicked straight on and the head ref carried a gun!

Here's my free trash picked 200 lbs weight box...

Second verse just for @Pullstart, I once was lost but now am found, was hidden but now can be seen.

My Dear CCW, where on earth did you get the notion that football started in your country? Britain was the birthplace of the noble game, in fact the oldest team is Sheffield fc, very close to where I hail from. The early years. Modern football originated in Britain in the 19th century. Since before medieval times, “folk football” games had been played in towns and villages according to local customs and with a minimum of rules. Your gridiron game was developed from both soccer and rugby, taking parts from each game. You are very right about the advertising and such like. Didn't one chap pay a million dollars for a box so his friends could watch? Quite a price ticket. I think more celebrities were there for the publicity than watching the actual game. Such a shame that a great spectacle like the super bowl has been taken over by the advertisers and glitterati. You can't take anything away from how skilful your chaps are at it, and the athleticism of it all. Yours Nigel

After chasing and buying. I have developed a little bit of a plan. If you don't respond after a second request, I move on. I always take a trailer or tow rig and an a hand full of extra grants. I always ask if there is any room on the price. I will not sell the machine and buy it at the same time. Tell me what you have, I'm yes or no. And don't blow that smoke that someone offered such and such and we turned it down. I always plan the trip as a good day out, even if i come home without anything. One side note on longer distance deals. They are the toughest but I make a list of other potentials in the route. Just in case. And as always, try to check emotions at the door.

Jay, I just came across a tool organization system you may be interested in. I know that this may seem sacrilegious but I plan to give that type of humor up for Lent.

Well i applied it to my seat, I coated it rather thick twice. I warmed the seat up before applying. I’ll let ya know how it worked. Thanks for the suggestion.

Personally I don't disgree with any of the grumblings about the game. But I like to watch the plays, so I watch. I have a pretty good filter for stupid commercials and just ignore them, but a few of them were actually intertaining to me. I did *not* watch the halftime show. For about the last 10 years I've had no idea who the people were who were headlining the show so I don't bother. I did enjoy Reba McEntire's National Anthem though. I think she could have toned down the country twang just a little, but that's her style. She would probably tell me "stop talkin' like a dang Yankee!"

Gears Gears Gears. Message Jake https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/profile/4240-jake-kuhn/

Not gonna get huge sympathy from me on this with your access to some incredible auctions!

Try switching to Mobil 1 in the hydro if you haven't already. I had a C-145 that did that and it quieted it down quite a bit.

I read this entire thing in my head with a British accent, and I find myself sitting here laughing hysterically!! I don't disagree with these comments either! Quarterbacks back in the day (1970's-80's) used to call their own plays and didn't have an armband with a call sheet in it. The problem with the modern NFL is that each offense literally has it's own language that has to learned. It gets so convoluted that no one can remember all of that. I read one time that some playbooks are 800 pages long!!

Your memory is working fine Richard. You talkin bout these ? One buck for the entire weight machine.

Well since our football took off here before your football took off here the name kind of stuck. Hence your football is our soccer and unfortunately some of our footballers like to play sockher, a very bad game indeed, BTW. I did watch the first half of the game and spent more time muting the hours of commercials between every two or three plays. The game now is more about television ads than football and has way to much pregame hype for me.

Jake Kuhn has gears and more gears.

I seem to remember @Ed Kennell buying a piece of exercise equipment at an auction just for the weights, paid next to nothing for it.

6 discs to make 5 cuts.

Hard to explain, but there is somehow a sort of relationship developed by big users of hand tools with them that ones finds one self always improving how and where they are kept. At the risk of sounding weird I would say that it’s almost a reverence for them. We like to use them but equally like to look at them and marvel not only at their beauty but also at their ingenuity which makes them so effective. One also finds oneself collecting them without many times realizing it. The recycling of materials comes with the same mentality. There is a comfort in having , reusing ,and saving scraps and cut offs. One seems to save and gather everything. Sure one can go and buy materials to build something. There is however a satisfaction unlike any other that comes from making something out of “nothing “. If you buy it when completed you will never look at it in the future and remember the action of buying that material because it is really irrelevant to the project. Recycled materials however, are the story behind the project. One always remembers exactly the source . It’s the first thing that comes to mind and is what we talk about regarding the project. As for tool cabinet in video it is gorgeous. Well thought out also. As far as “hardcore” woodworkers go there are about half a dozen “philosophies” as far as tool storage goes, the one in video being one of them. Besides tradition , there are reasons for the different ways, such as accessibility, flexibility, tool protection, etc.

I picked up a 70's era Craftsman 1/2" spindle at an automotive swap meet a number of years back. Included in the deal was a selection of high speed steel cutters. I've used one enough that it needs sharpening. This is what I came up with: I used an equal number of strokes on each edge of the cutter on both the coarse and fine side of my oil stone. It seemed to work. Any comments or alternate suggestions? I don't have any shaped slip stones to use on the contoured side of the cutting edges. I'd be leery of mucking up the shape of the edges with this method. Thanks.

Earlier today I spent some time messing around with 3 or 4 carbs. Got this one for Trina all cleaned up and assembled.

What on earth is that? Oh, yeah, football. I honestly don't have much to do with football. I can't cope with watching grown men belly ache and moan about a game. They roll around like they have been pole axed after the tiniest of contacts. They are paid ridiculous sums of money with the equally ridiculous excuse that they have to earn all their money before they become too old to play. What do they think working men do until they are 65, which is on its way up toward 71 in the near future. I prefer cricket and rugby which seem to still be pretty untouched by commerce. As regards half time entertainment, we don't pause for long enough to have a decent show. Just a quick suck on an orange and a good shouting at by the coach.

I spoke with tech support and they have a work around wiring harness they are sending to me at no charge. Should have it in a couple of days and update again.

you guys are all way too old

That's why it is called professional football. Sad to say the money has migrated down to the amateur level of college and even high school sports. BTW Bob, IMO, the Heinz Family Steelers is one of the best run organizations in the NFL.

You could - a good start if you have never used it and to gather info as to what gap you have now...

This thread has earned the 2024 title.

Customs rock! I saw a wantabe Oliver garden tractor at a show that was well done. If you didn't know what a Wheel Horse or Oliver looks like you wouldn't even know what had been done.

Honing the back of it on a good stone like that is a good safe way to do it. Unless there are chips on it there is no need to touch bevel, although a little honing with a fine slip stone such as a ceramic slip is beneficial and it will remove any burr from doing the back. The real big thing to keep them sharp all the time is actually to never let it get dull. I hone all cutters even carbide ones and table saw blades on a regular basis. Takes only a few minutes and they are always sharp. Once dull they overheat real quick and usually shortens their life considerably even ruining them . Keeping them clean is also important. Any gummed up cutter or blade overheats and dulls quickly. Machining or cutting woods like pine quickly gums them up. I keep mine clean by spraying them with oven cleaner in the sink and a soft brass brush, rinsing then with warm water. Rinsing the oven cleaner with warm water has somehow the effect of leaving blades or cutters, a bit slippery which is a good thing.

Hope they can help or were helpful. I took a picture - the red wire coming into this toggle switch is the wire from the solenoid. It comes out of the solenoid black or gray, hard to tell without some cleanup (which is sorely needed and I haven't gotten around to yet), then turns to red at a junction. The green wire pretty obviously goes right to the positive terminal on the battery. To me it makes the most sense to tap into a wire that goes hot when the key is turned on, removing the need for a toggle switch. Oh, and I almost forgot to mention, the toggle switch that's toward the bottom of the picture close to the choke is some kind of kill switch for this engine. I haven't taken the time to figure out where that goes on the engine, but it has to be flicked to "on" for the engine to run, and off to stop it even if I turn off the key. Another poor choice, in my mind.

Thank you Sparky... I got all Swiftied and hammered on the submit key too much... So this is what Bill was talking about Sailman...any auto parts will have them. The green ones pretty much fit our applications. Once you get them flattened out you use the gauge on the last pic holding it against the flattened out piece to get the clearance. I do it in three or four spots with the crank in different positions. Like Bill said do not let the crank rotate.

What no running out to the shop to get pics Bill? You may be off @Racinbobs Christmas card list. Good tutorial tho. I will at halftime.

I posted the shelves in another thread but thought I would add them here. The same neighbor that dug my ditch took the old shelves. I also moved.some tools from my workbench wall and moved them close to my work table. I removed all the pegboard from over the workbench and I am building a tool rack and shelves for that area.

I have saved all of my nose hair clippings in 3 large zip lock bags. I think I finally have enough for that toupee you've been wanting!

More work this evening. Took the voltage regulator off took the cover off, cleaned the contacts inside and out. Got the steering wheel off to work on the gas tank. What a good feeling when that comes off!!

Thursday is when the real wheelin and dealin is done. Looking forward to seeing you. I am booked at the Quality Inn, Chambersburg, stayed there before and was happy with the room.