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Scored with a nice Wheel Horse wall chart from the owner of a local repair shop who remembered I liked tractors. Covers 36", 42" and 48" rotary mower spindle parts etc. Wanted to make sure I shared this information. Chart Updated through 1989

I've found that a few years of less physical work and more beer, you can add 30 to 50 pounds more weight directly over the rear axle.

Got this into the workshop it's been in a barn for years Fitted new tires sorted hydrolics got it running fitted rotavator,😀

Perfect.....We finally have the correct answer to one of the longest running debates, "how to best add weight to increase traction". Zero cost, no welding, no assembly, no tools, no pumps, and can be instantly transferred to any tractor.

If it makes you guys feel any better, I have Tom's Ruprecht's hitches on my 5xi and my 416H. I install a Heavy Hitch into either one and hang six JD suitcase weights on it at 40 lbs each. Combined weight of the Heavy Hitch and the suitcase weight is about 260 pounds. Not been a problem. And by the way, I went thru the whole analysis of weight off the back v. wheel weights etc and I can tell you that the radial load on the needle bearings in the transaxle with weights on the back is far less than the allowable load spec'd on the bearing. If you do a search you should find the post. Like John Matthews (Shallowwatersailor), I use both rear and wheel mounted weights.

All I want is for everyone to remember the reason for the season!

A little more progress thanks to my daughter. I had an old set of hub caps (wrong vintage) that she painted the centers for me. They are a little scratched and dented but cleaned up pretty nice. I hope to work on the mounting plate mock up for the predator this weekend. I'm making it out if plywood before I drill the plate steel.

Went out and fired up the ol trusty C81, after a bit of reluctance she fired up. Can't say I blame it, it was -12 out, felt colder inside the barn. After a nice warm up, out we went to work relocating 6 inches of snow where Mother Nature put it to where I needed it to be. After about 10mins of pushing snow and 15 min of warm up time, I had to get out of the cab to relocate some obstacles. I just happen to notice that the grass screen was solid white. Now I have never had this happen in all the years plowing snow to get it that covered up. I shut the tractor down so I could get the snow off. To my surprise it was not snow. It was solid frost like you would see on a frosted mug but only more dense cutting off air flow from the flywheel. After my total loss of what was going on, it finally made it through my slow brain that the Exhaust from the low outlet on a C series was causing it. The steam vapor from the exhaust was being sucked into the grass screen and instantly freezing on it and build up a solid coating of frost. All my years I have never seen that before. Had it happen with other tractors using snowblower, but that was snow. New one on me.

I got a start on the Charger this evening! After rearranging my workshop to fit a fifth tractor inside it, I managed to get the Charger in. Unfortunately, I only had enough time left after that to spray some penetrating oil into the cylinder, find out the battery was dead, and pull off the duallies. The good news is that I now have four six inch wide rims, and that I have three 6-12 ags in very good shape. The bad news is that the duallies were mounted in more of a decorative fashion. They were simply bolted on with two carriage bolts per assembly. No rim spacers or anything! Also, one of the tires had a hole in the sidewall large enough for a cat to crawl through. One more piece of good news, I have confirmed that it has the 1 1/8" axles!

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I have been urged to post this video in this section, so here it is.. Enjoy the silliness

Wow, I like that idea! I've used a carry-all on my larger tractors for years and love it. You gave me nice idea to add one to my 520H. Thanks

Okay, so you guys might get some well needed relief out of the info that I have received today and going to share with now... So I called a local large scale bearing distributor near me called Applied Technologies and spoke with a gentleman named Bruce... After cross referencing numbers and finding the right bearing that many of use are using in the transaxles for our tractors here is the data that he called back with. The information was found in a Timken Spec Catalog that was about 10 years old, even though Timken is now Koyo which I believe that he said is the producer of the bearings. Toro 9416 (model# J-1816) 1 1/8" ID/ 1 3/8" OD Needle Bearing: Max Weight Limit: Dynamic = 5,880lbs Static = 10,800lbs Max Rpm's: Greased = 7,400 rpm's Oiled = 11,000 rpm's So as you can see, it seems that based off of the specs given, we will all be under the limitations of weight used. I'm guessing that the axle case would be destroyed long before the bearing if it boiled down to just a weight issue and not because the tractor wasn't maintained properly...

This should help...template of the frame plate. I had the same issue a few years back and was able to reinforce the plate with 2 x 2 x 1/4" angle iron in each corner/side. This will NEVER come apart ! ! ! If you elect this method, work on one side at a time. Otherwise, calamity ensues.

It looks similar to the digital one we have. Nice to see how it originated and was used. Garry

Here's an inexpensive way to add forks, if you have a loader. I swap these between my Kubota and Cub Cadet. They get used mostly for moving trees, branches and brush to the burn pile. They have come in handy unloading heavy things out of the truck bed also!

Think I'll go down to the copy shop and have a copy made to send to one of the site moderators so it can be a little more legible. Being a wall chart it is on the big side.

Definitely keeping the seat.. I have no idea what it is off of, I think it is just a generic tractor seat. It is, however, very comfy.. Yup, I think just a clean and scuff with some matt clear is all she's getting for now. Side note, I dropped my mule drive for the mower earlier this summer and broke the adjusting knob on the front. I had an old wheel that fit the shaft and did the job for the summer, but looks odd. My youngest son is finishing his first semester in machining at college and was looking for some extra projects. This is what he made for me in class:

I'm thinking... another magic shed might be nice Santa.

12-19-1986 World Series parachutist sentenced A man who parachuted into Game Six of the 1986 World Series at New York’s Shea Stadium, is fined $500 and sentenced to 100 hours of community service. On October 25, Sergio, a 37-year-old actor and Mets fan, landed on the infield with a “Let’s Go Mets” banner in the first inning of the sixth game between the Mets and the Boston Red Sox. Over 55,000 stadium spectators witnessed the sky diver’s arrival and cheered him on. The man who was quickly removed from the field by police, claimed he was an experienced parachutist who made the jump to show support for the Mets. Prosecutors in Queens, New York, home of Shea Stadium, claimed that his actions could have injured fans and players and interrupted air traffic from nearby LaGuardia Airport. They charged him with reckless endangerment and criminal trespassing. He spent a night in jail and was released without bail. On October 27, the Mets came from behind to win the World Series. On December 10 of that year, the parachutist, who claimed that several Mets players helped him get a lawyer, pled guilty to a criminal trespass charge in exchange for prosecutors dropping a more serious charge of reckless endangerment. On December 19, he was sentenced to community service and fined. However, he was later held in contempt of court for refusing to reveal the name of the pilot who flew the plane from which he jumped. As a result, in May 1987, he was sentenced to six months in federal jail.

I have them as well - price $6.75 --- $9.25 shipped to your door. http://www.wheelhorseman1000.com/category-s/148.htm

I know you did. Kurt sent me some pics a few weeks ago, I really liked his setup, simple, innovative, easy. Just throwing you a compliment to. I will do the same on my 5xi. Glenn

Got the light bar and 2" receiver installed, brake adjusted so that it works, and engine and transmission oil changed on the B80. Now it is good enough to drive around. Now I can get it out of the workshop and see if I can get the Charger going.

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How about this N.O.S.(never sold) 12 hr 522xi ...Jeff

You can take up much of the steering slop with a simple adjustment. In front of the steering gear you will find a castle nut with a cotter pin. Remove the cotter and turn the nut in as far as possible without causing the steering to bind, then reinstall the cotter pin. If you are too far in to engage the cotter pin properly, put a washer behind the nut.

1 1/8. Axles. An handle a LOT of weight! Look at smaller pickups like s10's rangers etc. There axles are about the same size and are surface hardened like the wheel horse axles bearings are larger but the shafts are about the same size. Biggest difference are the tires are more protected on a pickup then on a tractor. When both times I broke a rear axle on a horse it was because I backed into a tree and a brick wall. On a vehical this never happens because the box or fenders are in the way. That kind of impact has the entire weight of the tractor pushing on one axle. It may not brake of at that point, but could cause it to crack and then fail with another smaller impact. Both of mine had this and rust was present were they broke off. Now think about this, add lots off weight to the rims to make the tire heavier. Say 100# per wheel. Now plow some snow and hit a hidden post or chunk of concrete and it stops you instantly. That weight is now putting a lot of force on that axle in a way it was not designed to. Loaders want around 300# of counter weight on the back end of the tractor, that's what I run on a axle that has over 1150 hours on it. No problems yet and no leaks yet. You add weight for traction, the more weight the more traction you get. If you add it to the wheels or to that back end, just be aware you are adding more stress to the axles and the morecarfull you need to be. Most axles will handle it no problem. Just be aware and you shold never have a issue. Most axle failures have two sides to the story.

The Wheel Horse addiction we share? Lets face it, they are one of the finest examples of old school American quality, engineering, and styling. The good deals are just way too hard to pass up when we see them, After you reach a certain number you will finally realize what you did was not such a good idea. The number was around 30 for me. There is always always a good deal out there that will be way too difficult to pass up if you see it. Best thing is to not even look. Easier said than done. Instead focus on what you already have and take care of what they need. Don't just accumulate corpses that take up room in the barn and serve no useful purpose other than to look at. Parts tractors for your favorite models are OK. Every unit you acquire adds a storage burden and a time and expense maintenance burden. I have spent far more on storage than I have for the tractors. I love what I have, I love working on them, and have no more room for more. I need to do the repairs waiting to get done before I add any more. I also have a tough time selling anything I acquire and you just can't get what they are truly worth so I keep them. I am having a very tough time finding the time to play with all my ponies that need my attention. In the mean time the batteries go dead, the tires go flat, the points and electrical connections oxidize, and the fuel goes stale and kruds up the fuel systems and the maintenance burdens get even bigger. Perhaps we should adopt the rule that is true in life that if we don't use it we need to lose it? Also, Imagine the burden you will leaving behind for someone if you die with a large collection. If you have a kid or other relative with the same problem and you pass it all on to them then your collection should be covered and you will make someone happy instead of leaving someone with a big problem. Also, make up an inventory of what you have and what your estate should look to get for each piece if sold rather than passed on and put a date on it and update it from time to time. Also specify what you want to happen with your collection in your will or trust document. We do not want any of our collections to wind up at the dump if dealt with by folks who mean well but have no clue. While we are on the subject, it may be a good time to update your legal documents to include and protect your collections. You could even include a provision to offer them to members on RedSquare first if you need to. RedSquare will always be here with new members. Some day we will all meet in Wheel Horse heaven and get all the time we need to play with our horses. I am at least bringing my 520-HC and my D-200 with me. See you there. Happy Holidays to all. By the way, I love busting those bulbs at the top of the website. Thanks to whoever came up with that.

Are you sure that there wasn't contact with an immovable object while in motion at some time that contributed to it? In have a home made 2" hitch receiver on my 1055 snow plow and have a 16'; X 32" rack that slides into it, double duty, caries garden tools etc. in warm weather and four concrete blocks for weight for snow plowing traction,

Sorry to say this chaps but the D-200 is only in Nigel's workshop to get it running and have the tires changed.... It's a shame as it's a nice machine to have about the place.. I'd certainly like it in my small collection.. Anyway, a few "D" videos for you.. Enjoy

As y'all probably remember, I recently scored a steal of a deal on a JD 212 a few weeks back, I got her running and have been wondering what I was gonna do with her, was surfing the web this morning and found this. Thinking of building something similar for the Deere, I think it would be a super handy unit to use around the house, shop, maybe even out at the farm

Thank for the replies. This is the second time I have repaired this frame. It is on the inside. I have some pics from the past repair on my thread. I didn't have the frame attachment with me, I was hoping one of you guys had a diagram from an auto in your arcives. I just need to get thru the winter on this repair of the repair, so in the spring I can get a better an hope permanent fix. here is the original repair

Nice Job on the 606!! Just in case you hadn't seen it before on RS, thought I'd show you pics of my 606 I restored. Repowered it with a nice rebuilt Kohler k161. Just need to figure our how to thread the exhaust nipple on the engine so I can install a muffler on it...

The best thing, you don't have to look for it when you need it, it's right in front of you.

One thing to consider is that the points setting also sets your ignition timing. I am attaching the proper way to accomplish this. Kohler static_timing.pdf

I added this fork attachment to my loader as well. Just remove the bucket and the forks hook on. All quick attach. Visibility is the biggest problem as when the forks are lowered, they are mostly blocked by the loader frame and engine hood. Once you pick up even an empty pallet though you can see it just fine. The Forks are great for moving things around and placing items up on shelving like my 2 stage blower or 48 and 60" mower decks. Cleat

What you don't have any socks

Here's a couple more pics at different angles. This is already my kids favorite tractor.

We have them pointed east, we like to share with @WHX9 in (WI)

I'm with T-Mo very cold in MO. I was out in it all last night and power was out for a few hours. Very stressful when you're the guy who keeps the city's water & sewer going.

I bet the elvs got a xi with a two stage & a cab with some really neat lights for blowing that snow Santa. Wonder how you get them off it and back in the workshop to make toys???

awesome perfect thanks fellas here is my fleet a 312h 312a and a 416h

The rod should just pull right out. Clean up with any de-greaser. If it doesnt move freely, try spraying a small amount of cleaner in the hole and working push rod in and out until free. After looking closely at your pic, maybe your points gap just closed up and is not putting tension on the rod. Try adjusting your points gap.

Thought I read that it was rated at 300 lbs. I made this out of scraps laying around. I know the car hitch Is mounted upside down but I wanted to get my hitch hight up off the ground a little. The basket holds a milk crate that I put my weight in. I am itching to plow this year this is my first horse I restored.

Checked my STR324 it is #40 chain. Doesn't use as much as the bigger blowers as there is no top front idler sprocket. i only used it one season. She couldn't deal well with deep snow as you have to go slow to allow the 6hp to keep up...Lots of clutch slipping not good for the belt to keep ground speed down and auger speed up.

Hanging 200 lbs should not a problem at all but it must be secured and braced properly. And even if it is a problem, IMO it's still better to not get stuck or slide around in the snow wasting time while freezing my nuts off. Fix it in warm weather and do it all over again. This tractor pictured carries more weight than others are attaching to theirs. Built in '08, trans swap in '09 because of a snapped axle when running 10.5 dualies but so far so good since then. Not sure of the total weight but guaranteed it's more than 200. Same philosophy applies with this one too. I'd rather dig a trench in 2 hours instead of using a shovel for 12 hours and not worry about a trans which can be swapped in less than 10 hours, if necessary. So if the tractor does it's job, let's say 10 different times, which equals 100 hours of hard labor saved to sacrifice a trans bearing, so be it. No brainer IMO. BUT, I enjoy working on the tractors too so that certainly plays a roll and realize this way of thinking might not fit everyone's situation.