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Hi all, I'm not quite sure if I'm posting this in the right section of the forum or not.. It's not quite "other brand" or "wheel Horse" but it is certainly modified What do you do if you have a tractor that's got all the bells and whistles you could ever need but is so ugly you can't even look at it? This is a joint project between Nigel and I as Nigel needed a new project and I needed a break from Why Not! The ugly machine above is a German built Gutbrod 1032 which is actually a very strong and capable machine, it's just a shame about the looks.. Even just removing the body was an improvement Now as you all know my taste in tractors I expect you can guess where this build is going and you will also of worked out how we came up with the Horse Gut name We didn't plan to build HG like this, but as we had a few WH body parts kicking about we thought we would try them on.. The instant grin that both Nigel and I had showed we were on to a winner What do you guys think? Once we had finished balancing bits of bodywork and grinning (ok, we may still be grinning about it ), we started work. The Gutbrod was missing a few parts one of which was the rod that holds the pedals on, so to make life easier out came the rubber mounted engine. Measuring up the final length of the pedal rod. Both brake pedals fitted, yes both, it has independent brakes each side. The plate on the top pedal turns to unlock the pedals giving you independent brakes. The other side of the rod has the clutch pedal and a pivot thingy that connects the rear brake on the left side. Nigel cut down the Gutbrod fender pan mounts. To get the fender pan closer to the tires/tyres. The Gutbrod exhaust muffler had to go as it was ugly, badly repaired and full of holes. So we decided on a rear exit system.. As this is a budget build a bit of recycling was in order, so an old wheel barrow frame was dug out A bit of chopping and welding later... Fitted but in need of a clean up. The electrics which looked a mess wasn't to bad once I had removed all the bits that were not needed such as indicators, horn and headlamps which had side and main beam! The Dynostart was full of water, but once drained and dried out the water does not seam to of done any damage which was quite lucky. It would of been nice to of kept the original Gutbrod ignition barrel and key, but alas the barrel was a it past it.. So I fitted an odd WH barrel I had kicking about the place. Just a simple "on" "off" and "start" sort of barrel. As for the engine.. Well, it want's to run but won't quite.. It try's to run but is having problems with over fueling.. I will have the carb apart again tomorrow to see if I missed any muck hiding away, but the carb is quite worn with plenty of spindle play, so a carb swap may be in order at some point. And that's where the build has got to so far. It's nice building something different but usable and it's nice doing a joint project. Nigel and I have the same warped thinking when it come to projects

Been getting tired of not being able to keep more than one tractor at the house so I built a shed. Very happy camper

this could take a few minutes.

Hi every one some of you may remember the Springfield I am getting running for a friend He had this plow that went to it He ask me if I wanted it. I said YYEEAAAA. When I bought the Rat Commando it had these tabs welded on the axel so that is how I am mounting it. This for VERY LIGHT DUTY Plowing. Mostly light snow. So I think it will work I have everything now. the plow was over 50" so I cut it down to 40" Did not need that much and the lifting on the lever is the weak point= weight and 3/8" on the hanger then 1/2" to the plow with a reducer in the middle. So it is mocked up now just have to finish it this week. enjoy the pick`s and the ride. Fun project. Gary B.....

let it snow.

Mine still has all the original patina. I call it rust.all I have to do is stop it from eating my tractor away

I'm no body man / paint man but I bought an 88 520H from an older gent. who got spray happy without near enough prep work................ Now I will have to sand / strip all the paint down to the metal and start over. You can make it look worse with a bad paint job than it would if it had not been painted at all.............

Here is what I did on my 416-H. http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/topic/53215-metal-fatigue-cracks-in-hoodstand-components-416-h/?do=findComment&comment=501903

WW Grainger has some really good safety glasses that have the prescription lenses on the top and bottom. They were designed for electricians because a lot of their work is overhead, give them a look, no pun intended. http://www.grainger.com/product/3M-Reading-Glasses-WP10584/_/N-k26/Ntt-safety+glasses?nls=3&ssf=3&sst=subset&ts_optout=true&s_pp=false&picUrl=//static.grainger

Pics as requested! It has spark, compression and fuel in the fuel filter so I'm pretty sure its carb related. The fuel looks horrible so I'm going to collect up some fuel lines, filter and a carb rebuild kit. If I can get it to fire I plan on pulling the tins and painting them, adjusting the valves, and doing the head gaskets as insurance. I have a nice set of deestone ags I acquired so they'll probably end up on it. Hopefully I can get it running and move forward! I ended up paying $200 for it and it came with a 42 inch side discharge deck, mule drive and plow brackets. The deck has a hole but I'm pretty handy with a welder and metal fab so I think I may have a nice garden tractor for the spring. I'll keep my 312 for mowing grass.

Dragging timber for the wood stove. The '90 520-8 does everything well! Son & grandson like the sound of the Onan.

Hello everyone, I've been lurking and reading here for quite some time and finally signed up. I'm probably one of the very few people on the forum that don't own a Wheel Horse (yet) I've been on the hunt for a while and narrowly missed several. The information I've gained on this forum has been very helpful in deciding which model to look for, And for that I thank you all. Allen

1st time I have seen these. What are they worth compared to the run of the mill flat and idler pulleys.

I searched for safety glasses that had readers (cheaters) built in, and found a lot of bifocals, which are a pain to work with. Found these on Amazon, full lens magnifying safety glasses. I bought 1 pair, tried them out, and ordered 4 more just in case they suddenly quit making them. They are great. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KSJP2V0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

Long story short......well never mind full story. started with the 69 charger v8. Girls want tractors too. Pick up the rj58 and 60 suburban. Well my boy had a friend over for the weekend and I offered to drive him home. We pull up to his house and my son spots a tractor in the woods and says dad that looks like ours. I walk down there and I see the tool box fenders I need for my suburban. I inquired about it and they tell me it was there old garden ornament and the rest of the tractor is down there as well. I offered them $40 and they were very happy. At this point I am thinking that I scored a perfect set of fenders for $40. So I go to retrieve my goods and discover a 61 suburban scattered all over. Minus a few items of course but almost complete. They dug out the engine from the shed, tires behind the shed (not AGS) and the front axle laying in the dirt. So I do believe that it is worth saving. Unfortunately I forgot to snap pics but will post them on Saturday when I get home. Quick question. Anybody know if there is a vendor selling reproduction grill inserts where light would have been on the charger? And I know everyone wants pics so can someone tell me the purpose of this hitch? Thanks

Here are a couple of pics of the finished Charger 10

here's the video, not too great as i could only test it in our small garden. I tested all gears and ran it for about 20minutes. the only thing i have found is that the belt and 90 gearbox pulley gets warm. not hot, just warm. callum

It sounds like a 12-point head.

We are glad to have some younger members like you Cole. Many of us are getting old and falling apart, so a new crop of horse tamers is always welcome to keep the hobby going. I have a Wheel Horse buddy who's grandson is named Cole. They restored a Charger 10 that they bought from me a couple of years ago. If you want to see pictures of what it can look like when it's done, just let me know and I will post them.

I looks great to me

Richard, the guard on the engine came with the engine. This engine is a transplant Tecumseh OH-140 14 HP out of a Sears tractor. It replaced the original 8 HP Kohler which is in need of a rebuild. Another member also said he wanted one. Maybe we should start up a business making custom debris guards.

An across the boarder Horse Rustling, we want to know all the sorted details; how you managed to out run the posse, everything!

Looks like my backyard too. I think you will need a few more Wheel Horses and about a Zillion Billion Million leaves !!!

Mike's "D" has plenty of patina, but you can still see too much RED to make it weathered, my survivor 953 is almost there with the exception of the front rims! Engine leaks enough oil to prevent it or the frame from rusting!

Leaves, leaves, leaves............. QUIICK......... PUSH EM IN THAT HOLE.............

I've got just what you need.....just across the border in MO town.... PS ....bring trailer!

That is so true. It's much better to leave it original than botch it up with a crummy paint job. I attached a pic of one I saw at an auction a while back. It's much worse than it looks in the photo. It looked liked someone just rattle canned over the rust and dirt with no prep at all. I didn't stick around to see it sell, so I don't know what it sold for.

NYLYON !!! GET OFF THE COUNTER!!!

That frame looks a lot like an old Simplicity frame. As you've already said the look went south from there. The Wheel Horse hood and fender is a great improvement. It will look great after it gets the Stig treatment. With the odd ball machine already in this tread here's mine. I broke down and bought a Harbor Freight engine for the Ford Shortdog. Wanted an older engine just could find one around here.

Elbow grease, sand. I like the Rustoleum Regal Red rattle cans. Color match seems excellent and the Restoleum Regal Red holds up well. Usually on the shelf at Home "Cheapo" 'bout $4.00 a can.

ARE WE THERE YET??????

Excellent pictures...that tree has got to be one of the oldest trees in the Kansas City area. That is huge. Looks like you daughter's beau is going to be into collecting trailers. That ain't all bad.

Ya know Jim, you could use it for a cutting board for cheese and sausage...put the decal on the back...buy a Navy guy a drink and invite Bob. Does not get any better then that...I'll bring the wine.

Well then, that settles it. You ain't getting the decal. Moms rule, period. My Mom is with the other angels now but she still rules my life. I like it that way.

Actually we do harvest the leaves.For over twenty-five years we gathered and shredded the leaves for compost for the garden.We used to rake and shred, then added a MTD shredder vac.That worked great until I wore out chasing it. Several years ago my wife started mulching the garden plants.Three to four inches deep and no more weeds.The first picture is some of this year,s leaf harvest and the last is of the garden when mulched. The mulch pile has unprocessed Beech leaves from a nearby tree laying on it. I modified the Agri-fab to shred the leaves as well as vacuum them.The increased weight is why I say a lawn mower won't handle the load. Luck, JAinVA (Jim)

I like the C series, The 1054 (missed a nice one a few days ago) and any of the larger models. I'd like to have a couple or 6 of 'em.

nice to have family participation. every bit helps. glenn

The Wheel Horse tractor is like a Harley... may take a min to find older parts (but we are here )...The sound and vibration cannot be matched, you know you are on an American made Tractor !!!! My opinion of course...lol

i am still not done cleaning up from a major wind storm in July. 19 acres is to much to care for. Very nice looking crew and machinery. Job well done. Nice to have good help.

Looks like she has him where she wants him...lol

Ty, I'm having fun! when I first started tearing down, I remembered, turning wrenches with my Granddad like it was just a day ago, I remember laying in the creeper putting the nuts on the motor bolts while he backed them up from the top! that made it all worth it! Heres another project I've worked on,, not a wheel horse,, or a tractor,, but still a very fun build,, it's a 1941 Chevrolet army truck I don't really work at original,, little changes are fun,, just not to much! The bed is built from scratch , my design, the rear fenders are front peterbuilt fenders, its got a 502 Chevy with a turbo 400,, I take it out every now and then! I also build RC trucks,, since I've retired I just try to find neat things to work on! But the tractor has been special since it has been around for all my past, I used it to pull all my granddads old hot rods around the shops with, mowed a huge yard with it, plowed my mother, and grandmothers gardens with it,, every childhood memory I've got closely ties to this tractor!

So I saw a listing for a slot hitch plow and mower decks yesterday. The final pieces to my puzzle. The gentleman was looking to clear house so I offered to take the lot. i got more than I barganed for... 11 mower decks, 2 sets of wheel weights one with wheels attached, the slot hitch plow, and a pile of misc chains. A little over wealming but i am happy as all get out!!! (more pics to come)

sea-duck the cast # 170-4347 on the block, ( i have one in stock ) confirmed that you have a P block, with B sheet metal and other parts. the valve parts are not inter changeable, UNLESS the valve guides were replaced with B guides and related parts. B valve stems are 11/32. ( .343 ) P valve stems are close to 9/32 ( act .280 ) ALL onan twins use 2 keepers per valve. thank you. boomer

Its usually the metal lthat the bearingi is riding in that eggs out. Not so much the bearing. You will have to investigate.

Salem thought she was in litter box heaven.

Go with the gallon Red you will not like it if you run out, sides... you can always sneek out and shoot a couple of yellow & green things with leftovers, well maybe that would be a waste at that price but maybe the wife's car?!?!

That is really strange. I've been following this thread, thinking someone would come up with a reason for it. I'm no expert, for sure, but everything looks really square and straight to me in the pics taken from the front, but I notice that you can see the right tie rod but not the left. It may just be the angle in which the pictures were taken. I'd have to go with the bent spindle theory. I realize you've swapped spindles and axles and i'ts still out of align. I reckon if you hit something hard enough it would bend a spindle, but after replacing it and the camber still being way off like that, I don't have a clue. It's just weird. I'm gonna have to look at my tractors now. P.S. I just keep studying the pics. In the first pic (the recent ones taken of the front) you can see the difference in the distance from the top of the wheel to the spindle portion of the axle. The pic appears to be taken from the exact center of the tractor if you compare the pedals, wheels, etc. I'm stumped. P.S.S. Compare the top of the axle on each side with the lower portion of the rear wheels. It's exactly the same on each side, I just noticed. I don't believe the axle is bent. It appears exactly symmetrical to me. It must be the spindle/s messed up. I don't know, I give up!

hello men, hope i don't get in trouble with the moderators, but AMC RULES (craig) asked for jeepster with plow pics. so here ya go craig. its a 56 willys cab and front clip on a severely shortened late 70's chevy truck frame. 350 cubic inch engine, NP205 t-case and SM465 tranny. turns on a dime. really pushes snow!!! hope you guys enjoy the pics. thanks to my buddy phil for the help with loading these pics. i forgot to mention the tow boom is a late 1920's early 1930's weaver auto crane. it is the 3 ton model. it is hand cranked and still works great! regards mike in mass.

As promised more pics!!

My head's about to explode... I've been listening to a good bit of Savoy Brown lately, especially the early years, not sure why. I decided to post one of my favorites, an old Muddy Waters tune called "Louisiana Blues", like so: Some of you might recognize the voice of "Lonesome" Dave Peverett on this tune, he and a couple of other guys from Savoy Brown broke off a year or so later to form Foghat, which also recorded a version of this song much later featuring John Popper from Blues Traveler on harmonica (I love the way musicians seem to wander off in random directions and get together like this). Anyway, there's lots of versions of this tune on YouTube, from people like Paul Rodgers (Bad Company), Leslie West (Mountain), the list goes on... And then I found these two very different but highly entertaining versions: Enough playin' around on YouTube, I have to get up early in the morning.