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This receipt for a Wheel Horse purchase in 1960 was posted on Red Square several days ago! i was up in Lake County. Indiana at my mom and brother’s and stopped by Terpstras. This was the Wheel Horse ( now Toro and other outdoor equipment) dealer we used when i was a kid. The Terpstra’s place was only about a mile from our house and it was a feed , seed and farm store before they accepted their first Wheel Horse but they were an early dealer! If you search Tersptras in the Red Square search box more old posts will come up! Anyway Tuesday i stopped i to the store and showed Don Terpstra , the son of William Terpstra, the original owner, the 1960 receipt photo. I emailed it to Don and he was pleased to see it! Don showed me a photo of his dad William on a wagon with a four horse team ( 4 Wheel Horses linked together) . He told me Wheel Horse in the early days loaned this four horse rig to dealers to promote Wheel Horse sales! I have seen several over the years and i always thought they were homemade rigs set up for parades. But Don indicated at least one set was made by Wheel Horse and this was probably before they had their factory building on Ireland Road in ghe south side of South Bend . The RJ picture is the one they still have displayed in the store ( the original feed and seed part of the building). It was sold by Tersptras in 1959 and traded back in later. The Terpstra family restored it in the early 1990s and Don said they just used what extra decals they had at the time!

Took Artie out for a ride yesterday. Need to drive it more battery was low.

We have 7 grandkids, so my wife "Nanny" declared we need a larger dining room table so everyone could sit together. So now you know what I've been working on for the last month! I did some measuring and determined a 10 ft table would fill our space. We did some looking, but really didn't find anything we liked, and the prices were high. she asked if we could build a granite table for less that the store bought one. I had suggested I have some heavy antique cast iron legs and could build a metal frame for the granite. When I calculated that a 42" x 120" granite slab would weigh 1225 I knew this frame needed some engineering. I had a "strength of Materials" class back in collage 50 years ago. I remembered the basis, but never used the calculations part of it. It occurred to me that maybe AI could help me with the calculations. So I dug out my old textbook. So I use the free version of CHATGPT and asked if it could do steel design calculations. Of course it answered. I gave it the granite size and weight, the cast iron legs size and weight and asked it to design a frame using rectangular tubing. I went through several calculation iterations, giving it more information as I remembered various inputs it needed. I also asked it to include a safety factor in the design, Then even asked it to do a tipping analysis of what it would take to tip it over. During this process it told me it could make a drawing, build me a metal cut list, specify the welding requirements and even suggested designing some under table LED lights. First it told me I could download this design package at a "link" that didn't work Then it told me it could put it all on a USB and mail it to me and I pay for the USB and shipping using PayPal I asked it for its PayPal address and it gave me a copy of the instructions of how to set up a PayPal account. I again asked it for "its PayPal address and it finally told me it couldn't have a PayPal account because it was a computer. It did make a a simple sketch of the frame using "dash" lines to draw the frame and a material cut list. As this point I texted my techie son and he said it was having "AI Hallucinations" telling me it could do the mailing when in reality it couldn't A friend from when our sons were in Scouts together has a metal roofing and light fabrication business. I cut out the parts and laid it out on his large long flat fab table. I started to tack it together, but his guys are such better welders that me and they just took over. I payed him for a days work by one welder, a great deal. I had access to some leftover (low cost to me) 1-1/2 x 2-1/2 11ga steel tubing. so I asked AI to use this for the design. Cast leg set weigh 70lb each. its solid and heavy. The legs set have a 4" wide top that already had bolt holes in them. The legs bolt onto this flat plate. I welded the nuts since you can't get to them once the granites in place. After Sunday evening dinner with my sons and families, I had them help me haul the steel frame inside and bolt it together. Granite delivered and set in place by 6 guys yesterday. After they set the granite in place, my wife exclaimed "it's Huge" So I think I did good! I briefly wondered if I mad enough brownie points to buy another tractor- Not My existing 8 ft table and chairs are going to one of my sons. The granite guys were great, and carried it out and put it on my trailer. New chairs are expensive these days #200 - $300 each and up. I came across well build commercial used chairs at Restaurant Supply Businesses. We found a simple design we liked advertised on Facebook Marketplace and I bought 14 for $20 each. So my next project is to sand and paint the chairs a medium gray to match the colors in the granite,

My wife prefers her 2013 Subaru over my recent Volvo--smaller, more nimble, and less “helpful” stuff. 😁 In that vein, she shared this image with me today...

Hawaiian Shirt Day is celebrated on the third Friday in August and this year, the day falls on August 15. The celebration marks the official day that Hawaii joined the U.S., making it the fiftieth state in the U.S.A. The day commemorates a long-standing effort to gain statehood for the nation of Hawaii and is also celebrated as National Statehood Day on the island. Hawaii was annexed by the U.S. in the 1800s and for a long time was a territory of the US, its inclusion in the U.S. has since transformed the island, often being punted in massive Hollywood films, Hawaii is the perfect tropical destination for families and thrill-seekers.

Our only income is Social Security, a very small pension that my wife receives after retiring from the library, and my RMD (minimum required distribution from my IRA), we are very happy that we paid off our mortgage early and started to put that money into savings. We don't have car payments. My wife knows exactly how much money we need each month for regular bills, and we pay for everything with a credit card that earns us cash back. That credit card is paid off every month. We locked our credit reports so that credit card offers stop. I feel sorry for those who max out one card, get another, and so on. As those ads on TV say, you will never pay them off only making the minimum payments. When you hear that nearly half of Americans have $500 or less in their savings accounts, you have to wonder if schools even teach anything about budgets and finance to our students. I'll get off my soap box now

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Guess I will need to continue using maps, my phone probably isn't compatible with these new systems.

Ready for a swap with @Pullstart in the morning... Update: Met up with @Pullstart today for a quick tractor swap... he got his back - repowered - and I got a C-125 Black Hood... as always, a pleasure Kevin! And, another entry in the Ugly Seat Contest!!!

Baby boomers like me grew up with parents who when they grew up were children of the depression and also typically WW2 vets -- Therefore, our parents knew economic hardships in their younger life so my sisters and I were taught Economics 101 and real life graduate level finances at the kitchen table -- plus, also real life $$ examples every day of the week from Mom and Dad. My sisters and I were fortunate to grow up in a "middle class" financial situation - In their adult years, my sisters and their families also lived a comfortable middle class life and financially secure senior years thanks to those financial lessons taught by our parents. My most basic learning about finances and economics from my Dad actually is a tractor story - no not a WH - but still it was a tractor story. When I was age 14, I harrassed my Dad until he caved and he bought a Montgomery Wards tractor with mower and plow -- In those days lawn/garden tractors, or the then versions of riding mowers, were rare in a typical subdivision neighborhood. I had the idea as a teenager I should have a tractor to mow neighbors lawns and plow their winter snow rather than me use a push mower or a snow shovel. Of course I had zero $ to buy a tractor myself. So my Dad said "sure, I'll buy the tractor and you will keep a log journal and you will keep 40 % and since I your Dad am fronting the $$ you will pay me 60 percent" -- ( including Dad paying for gas, oil, belts, blades, parts, etc). My lesson over about 5 years, age 14 to 18, was about $$ capital, loans, expenses, overhead, time value of money, interest earned or lost, labor expenses, ROI, etc -- Best $$ lessons I ever learned that served me well the rest of my life was from a tractor - and now I am doing a WH tractor rehab project with my age 12 grandsons - explaining the same $$$ lessons I was taught.... ( and as footnote my Dad "gave" me his 60% share back as a contribution for some of my college expenses). and as a p.s. to the story -- while I strongly believe consumer finances should be a mandatory course in the schools ( but mostly is not ) , I have zero confidence my grandchildren will learn most of those economic and financial lessons in school.

Thanks for the complements guys. This is the thread you want for the #5091. These threads are in the "Instructional/Transmission" area on the Main Page. It is also a good idea to use this manual along with the Video Thread. The #5091 is in section V. @953 nut All of my videos are uploaded to U-Tube (see my signature in my posts) and then downloaded into the threads. @Bar Nuthin It is a good idea to verify that you have 1 1/8" axles. You will have to drop your trans, open it up and see what parts you may need. Knowing you have at least one bad axle bearing, I would replace both of them, all 4 seals and the #3912 gasket. Parts list is here...use the 3rd PDF. Ask for any help you may need. Take good pictures to show us as you go.

I've been debating taking a trip to ohio for a set of wheel weights, maybe buying a c-165 to put them on would make the trip more exciting!

Got on the trail nice and early today (8:00am) and cranked out 18 miles!

If those zip ties every turn loose, and considering the metal frame work, be sure to keep an eye on the family jewels!

The good thing about stone surface table (which yours's s beautiful by the way) is it's less likely to absorb oil or carb cleaner when making WH repairs!

So I picked this up from my neighbor for almost nothing. It's a 2011 Honda PCX 125 . He bought it brand new when he lived in Cali. Then he moved to AZ where it was last registered. 10 years ago he moved here to NY where it has been parked in the garage ever since. 10 years of bad gas, 10 years never been started, 10 years of dust. I rolled it over to my house and my cousin and I started removing all the plastics. Let me tell you, that alone ain't easy. Siphon out what was in the tank. Flushed, rinse repeat, repeat, repeat. Put new gas and battery in it. Turned key, nothing. Checked all safety switches and the key and kill switch. Turned out bad kill switch. Made a little jumper wire and it was cranking with spark but not starting. Not getting fuel. Pulled the fuel pump out of tank and ordered a new motor fior the pump and kill switch and fuel injector. Parts came in and we put it all back together. Had some few extra screws when finished ! Ya know how that goes. Anyways it's running like a champ now. I have owned a few motorcycles in my day. Riding this is nothing like riding a motorcycle. Being it's automatic im always looking to clutch, shift, use foot brake. None of that applies on this. Also the sitting position is strange. But is it fun ??? Heck yeah !!! Today i take it to get inspected. When title comes in most likely sell it, until then....... que the Born To Be Wild music. 20250808_192300.mp4

The first time my mother saw me pay for groceries with a credit card she thought I had run out of money and couldn't pay for them. I told her about the cash-back and how much money is added to my Roth IRA each year from the credit card. Our credit has been frozen for about twenty years, when that was first offered we got on that program and haven't needed to thaw it yet.

he forgot to add.... bull hockey

Any "EXTRA MONEY" had always gone to paying down the mortgage in the early years. We have purchased a few new cars over the years, but not until we were debt free and could pay cash for them. When 401K savings programs became available my wife and I both invested the maximum amount that was allowed plus continuing to fund our IRAs. The money in those funds allowed us to know that we could retire some day. Being frugal allowed us to retire when we were sixty one years old and build our North Carolina home for cash. It is a sham that our schools don't teach financial literacy beginning at an early age, then again many of the teachers and administrators need some education along these lines too.

And I if doesn’t last, Brian at K+B Wheel Horse Parts has them.

We've paid off our mortgage early too and have been debt free for many years. When we watch TV we see all kinds of ads for National Debt Relief and can't believe that many people would need that service, but apparently they do. We've never made that much money but have all we need and more. An old fella once told me that "it's not what you make, it's what you spend that counts." I jokingly tell people that "we can't afford a down payment on a free lunch!" One of my nicknames is - Dirt Poor Denny! C-85 aka Dennis

In anticipation of our Niagara Falls trip later this fall, got the atlas from our local insurance agent. I use it to double check the computer maps. I've considered getting a rear view mirror that attaches to the original one for my 1992 GMC. They've got these things that have a forward looking camera and another attached to the back of the pickup to help with hooking up a trailer or keeping eye on traffic and acting as a back-up camera. I've about decided I've got enough gadgets--heater, air conditioning, am/fm radio (tuned to one station) and a turn indicator and two sun visors.

Yep. Has considerable movement side to side. Where will I find the best resource for instruction, as well as a required parts list? Should we focus on just replacing the needle bearing and required seals, or is this going to be a complete disassembly? I guess what I'm looking for is a general recommendation on how to approach this.

Mounting some of those $5 Carlisle tires!

I was doing something similar and welded a piece of flat steel to the all-thread so the vise would hold it better. The issue I had was that I'm 5'9" and had to work at shoulder height. I finally broke down and got a mini changer from HF a couple weeks ago when a single item was 20% off. That made it under $50 so I talked myself into it. I went by the metal supermarket and picked up a length of 2" channel and a 5 x 5 piece of 1/4". That was another $25 but I was kinda pot committed at that point. Drilled 4 holes, welded it together and shot it with some granite gray. Works much better for my short self

I'd had that thought too. I assure you these are the top of the line USA 🇺🇸 made zip ties with triple redundancy.

I am a mirror using truck driver with a stiff neck that has about 10 degrees rotation on a good day. I have found the rear sensors in Mrs. Ks Escape a great safety feature when backing out of a parking lot space where the mirrors can not be used to see an oncoming car.

I am positive that the setting on the Nav system defaults to "Most Annoying Route" !

This should be the transmission you have

Busted. Yeah, I took the guard off at some point in the past, for some reason. I do have a piece of bent sheet metal duct-taped on as a hand guard, but that only works if my hand is in the normal "holding" position behind it. When this happened, I was just being in too much of a hurry to push that power button up into the "locked on" position, when my hand (the non-holding hand) slipped and went forward. I really don't know for sure that having the guard on there would have prevented this, or maybe it would have been a bit of "road rash" style buffing of the skin... which probably would have been more painful. Gonna put the guard back on, since I did actually find it after this happened.

I like that he doesn't sugar-coat the parts that are a pain in butt, or edit out boo-boos. He keeps it real!

Yeah .. my money tree is a $50K portfolio that pays me $550+ a month in dividends monthly average (over 6K a year) which I've been compounding back into it along with adding another $100/month every month

That is our man @stevasaurus, I would recognize those big hands anywhere. I didn't know he had ventured out into YouTube Video Land.

My wife took a second or two to get it and then thought it was extremely funny. Neither of our vehicles have a back up camera. We had a rental car a couple years back with the camera but I still used the mirrors while backing up. I always take a look at Google Maps before going anyplace for the first time. The GPS in my wife's car tends to favor the busiest roads when there are alternate routs that are shorter with less traffic. I have an old Garmin in my truck that has served me well for about twenty years but I always have a paper map with me just in case we encounter a major traffic jam. The GPS won't direct you to a perfectly good alternate route but a map will show you what is available.

Missed a spot Looks good!

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OK, I forth that.

Thanks fellas ... was a good day. Headed up nort to the cabin and relax. Cindy got my seat time on the C-145 mowing so I fed deer, birds & mice. Go over tomorrow to camp Dan and have a birthday drink 🍸 Crap tried some pics but lucky I got this off... no bars...

Is Red Square the only place you have it advertised? I know many people are not fans of FaceBook but…Facebook Marketplace is a great place to advertise. Huge audience!

I have was a wife that used her work bonuses and doubled the principal on house payment, (Look at a amortization schedule. The first month's payment might be $200. $190 interest and $10 principal. By kicking in an additional ten dollars you've just paid two months payment. Of course the return diminishes the later in the payment schedule but for us it was wise decision,) We've only purchased one new vehicle in our 48 years of marriage. I've never owned a new lawn tractor. Living modestly, we were debt free when I was 35 years old and have managed to remain so. I saw a graft showing that something like 15% of married 30-somethings are on tract to owning a home. To me, that's a sad statistic.

Community pride is something I tried to instill in my two kids. They'd ride bikes with baskets gathering soda pop cans thrown around a campground we frequented. We went to watch the space shuttle blast off. Not knowing tickets were required to have parking we were assigned to park in an orange grove some distance away with limited view.. We were picking up a busted bottle on the sidewalk when a park ranger gave us tickets for parking. This morning me and my special needs grandson took the golf cart down to the road to drag a rather large branch that fell off of someone's truck and lay in the ditch. It had been there a week or so. I'll cut it up otherwise it would have remained an eyesore for the foreseeable future. Good to see the video of these men spiffing up their community. Sad to read that 953 nut's volunteer fire department's park had to be abandoned. It was striking to me that insurance was such a large factor.

The trans would need to be opened up to replace bearings. @stevasaurus has done plenty of videos and instruction concerning how to. You should be able to find all you need in the trans section https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/forum/49-transmissions-and-transaxles/

We keep AAA state maps and renew them every couple of years. The “video” of backing up, though, really cracks me up.

Wow. Just WOW. That was a humdinger of a project and what a good outcome. Our kitchen table extends (with nine leaves) to 12’ 8”. Just barely fits in the room. Like you, we are just so tickled to have everyone at the same table on special occasions!

We don't need anyone else in the bumps and bruises section. We already had enough with Kevins this week lol

The young'uns had a fold up tape, but that didn't pass "Nanny's" muster I looked into adding a 3rd leaf. I would have had to replace the whole sliding mechanism. Then grind a custom router/shaper bit to match the edge of the existing table. Then again i think she had her mind made up to replace the wooden table......I like wood....but!

Continued with the deep cleaning of the C-85. A few before and after pics:

I thought the bearing grease covered front wheels on my C-85 were a bear to clean…I was WRONG! The grass stains on the rear wheels was so much harder to get off. Eventually using a toothbrush, Simple Green and Dawn dish soap I prevailed!