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bought a 312-8 new in 1989 --- my Aunt Alice left me a very small few $ when she passed -- My wife and I lived on very, very tight budget with two young children at that time in 1989 and I could never have afforded a WH - so we used her generosity to go buy a tractor and have called it Big Al to this day in honor of my Aunt Alice --- my son started plowing with it in '89 at age 8 - and has a 520Xi now and his son has a 520HC -- - and now my other two grandsons, age 12, are involved doing a rehab with me on a 314. Great to see the next generations carry on the traditions -

National Jump for Jelly Beans Day is a U.S. holiday celebrated on July 31. Not only is it a day set aside to appreciate jelly beans, but it’s also a day to jump for joy simply because they exist. Jelly beans have been around for more than a century in the U.S. and have secured themselves a position among the most consumed candies in the country. It’s not only a candy loved by most Americans but a candy that even a one-time president described as his favorite. And so, there’s little wonder why it’s so popular and why two holidays were created to celebrate it.

As I get older I really can’t stand extreme hot or cold. I need weather like San Francisco weather where it’s 72 and sunny most of the time, but I’m definitely not moving there😂

Met up with Pullstart briefly today and got him the tires that were on this tractor, he has some much better tractors for those to go on. And got parts from him for this tractor, I will get some pictures and such tomorrow. Very much thanks for his efforts of getting me parts. After I met with him, I got this Brinly plow from FB marketplace that wasn't far away. Used very little and looks like it was probably stored inside.

Some Engines feel like they idle a bit smoother, and accelerate a bit cleaner, could be old coils not quite putting out rated voltage. Magnums, like Onans, really pour on the fuel when you get into the governor and the resistance at the plug goes up, if it exceeds the coils power output you get no ignition. A wider gap means more power, but its a balance. I used to see a bunch of Snapper Joystick Z mowers and Craftsman GTs with Magnum Twins. Sometimes you'd get a momentary dead miss on power up on one side, close up the plugs a hair and that completely went away.

The "D" models were well equiped for the situation you have. The PTO is engineered into the tractor rather than being an add-on and they are a much more robust unit overall.

This is where I put my fuel pump on the 856.It calls for a low placement. Just start fresh and change every thing -lines -filters-carb rebuild.Good luck and hope it turns out well.

I sold this machine, but the new owner’s happy!

My 2 cents.... 8 HP is marginal to run a tiller, even if is in great running condition. Best used to till an area free of rocks & roots, not unbroken unknown soil. The Commando 8 is a 4 speed.... you really need the low range 6 or 8 speed to be able to run the engine at WOT and still have a slow enough ground speed. Or an automatic? Right implement, wrong tractor.....

Today, I repurposed a few extra coffee cups for workshop stuff. I built an exhaust pipe with assistance from my father and mounted the new muffler to it for the C -141. And drove it over to my house. it’s been it’s been sitting at my parents next door for the last 2 months or so. Just little things and painting now.

UPDATE: I posted this in another thread, but thought I'd share it here is well for the benefit of anyone chasing down Mighty Mac topics.

I'm glad to see this, that museum seems like a hidden secret! We went there about 15 years ago and I was very impressed! Back then they had a A10 out back and from these pictures it looks like it's being displayed inside now, so that's good to see. During my time in Desert Storm in 1990/1991 I feel that the Apache helicopters and the A10s probably helped save our lives! I've read how the Air Force is trying to decommission the A10s due the the new F35s and I don't know if that's a good thing or not. C-85

I would agree with that. There is a fairly large torque increase from small block to big block on a K series or Magnum Kohler. Stroke, compression, even the mass of the individual flywheel makes a difference. My point was you don't need 25hp to run a tiller and that low range alone has more impact on the tiller performance than does pure horsepower. All that being said, tillers have been used with small block Kohler-equipped tractors successfully since the 1960s (especially after 1967). Obviously, as with any powered implement the performance rises with the amount of power applied. That is a given.

https://www.gardentractortalk.com/d3/downloads/monthly_02_2013/4ef4770f77cdcfea3ac9b076f67aebc2-ark-loader.pdf Here is a much clearer copy.

I fully agree with the others on the thread. Firstly, the 36 inch rear tillers were some of the absolute best attachments Wheel Horse ever made. I would say this concerning horsepower: I tilled with a 310-8 for years. It was very strong, even in solid red clay that was loaded with rocks. That being said, 10 horsepower isn't much, but the low range on the tractor is what allows less power to do so much work. The slower ground speed allows the tiller to take a far smaller bite. Point being? A healthy 8 hp engine might be enough under certain conditions, but the low range of an 8 speed is what is an absolute necessity.

Try these with your under sized spuds! SMASHED POTATOES 12 small red or yellow potatoes (about 1-1/2 pounds) 3 tablespoons olive oil 1/4 cup butter, melted 3/4 teaspoon salt 1/4 teaspoon pepper 3 tablespoons minced fresh chives 1 tablespoon minced fresh parsley Directions Preheat oven to 450°. Place potatoes in a large saucepan; add water to cover. Bring to a boil. Reduce heat; cook, uncovered, until tender, 15-20 minutes. Drain. Leave the potatoes in the hot pan until cool to dry them out some. This is a key point! · Drizzle oil over the bottom of a 15x10x1-in. baking pan; arrange potatoes over oil. Using a potato masher or fork, flatten potatoes to 1/2-in. thickness. Brush potatoes with butter; sprinkle with salt and pepper. Roast until golden brown, 20-25 minutes. Sprinkle with chives and parsley. Serve with sour cream if desired.

Yikes! Those pics reminded me of the time wife bought us tickets to see Eric Clapton in Boston for my birthday. She got us a room in a hotel and we went wine shopping in the North End. Carrying a bag with several bottles in one hand and a box of pastry from Mike's in the other, I tripped on a cobble stone and went down. The wine hit first and the bottles broke. Left hand followed into the bag! A hand surgeon at Mass General had to stitch up 2 fingers, 40+ stitches. Thought I was loosing my pinky, but I did save the pastry! Worst thing, is we missed the show!

I miss Ronnie.......

Robot lawn mowers... Hope those boys run it over accidentally...

The tractor illustrated parts list includes the engine.

I dang near flipped a boat on that river. Oh, to be young again, lolz!

I got this black hood running… and it works great!

If it is outdoors and I can't get it done be 10:00 am it will still be there tomarow. Been doind about an houre of weeding each morning so far but a few cool days are coming up.

Tried D & D. 👎👎 Two thumbs down. Tried a white colored Dayco brand. Nope. Tried blue STENS brand. OK for 60s tractors but NOT for my 1974 and up C Series 8 Speeds. Tried green Gates brand. Those were fine for both vintage transmissions BUT I can get an original OE Wheelhorse belt for less money. Same for the Napa Gates. Why would I use aftermarket when OE is less money......? For Trina's 1960s: We've been using blue Stens from Lincoln at A to Z Tractor in PA when she needs a replacement. For my 1974 and up: OE Wheelhorse ONLY on 8 speeds.

Thought about mowing and trimming bushes yesterday after work, and it just stayed a thought lol today's heat index is 104 here so it might just stay a thought again

Yesterday was so hot, our friends invited us on a boat ride. Went out the Merrimack River to the ocean and across to the Anisquam River into Gloucester for lunch at Cape Ann Marina. Cruised back behind Plumb Island through the Plumb Island River to Newburyport harbor. The Merrimack River mouth can get nasty! Wonderful way to spend a HOT day!

It is not. It is not glass, it is aluminum, as @ebinmaine pointed out. And it's not really the sediment bowl. The glass sediment bowl is up under the tank. If it has anything really at all in it check inside the tank to make sure the tank outlet isn't plugged. The sediment bowl will not be empty if the tank outlet plugs up and stops fuel flow to the carb.

It’s aluminum after looking closer and tapping it.. said glass by mistake after re reading what others wrote

Looks excellent!

I think a K-241 vs K-181 has a significantly advanced torque curve from the longer rod. It’s not fair to rate them only 2 powers apart, when we need the torque numbers. After all, horsepower is how fast we can hit a wall. Torque is how far we can push it.

32" Snowthrower DNA - For tractors with horizontal shaft engines 1963 model ST-323 - Fits 701, 502, 552, 702, 603, 653, 753, 604 (Drive belt 1589 1/2" x 56.5") (Chute turned by belt 1590 3/8" x 43") 1964 model ST-324 - Fits 701, 502, 552, 702, 603, 633, 653, 753, 604, 654, 704, 854, 605, 655, 855 (Uses # 41 chain Pitch 1/2" and roller width 1/4") (Drive belt 1589 1/2" x 56.5") (First model to use cable on the chute) 1965 model ST-325 - Fits 701, 502, 552, 702, 603, 633, 653, 753, 604, 654, 704, 854, 605, 655, 855, 1045, 1055 (Uses # 41 chain Pitch 1/2" and roller width 1/4") (Drive belt 1589 1/2" x 56.5") 1966-1967 model ST-326 - Fits 701, 502, 552, 702, 603, 633, 653, 753, 604, 654, 704, 854, 605, 655, 855, 1045, 1055, 606, 656, 856, 876, 607, 657, 857, 867, 877 (Uses # 41 chain Pitch 1/2" and roller width 1/4") (Drive belt 1589 1/2" x 56.5") 1968-1969 model 6-2211 - Fits 500 Special, Commando 6, Commando 8, WorkHorse 700 (Formerly ST-326) (Uses # 41 chain Pitch 1/2" and roller width 1/4") (Drive belt 1589 1/2" x 56.5") 1971 model 6-0100 - Fits 800 Automatic, 800 Special, Bronco 14, Charger 12, Raider 10, Raider 12, WorkHorse 800 (No record of 6-0100 at Toro. Suspect it was same as 6-0200 plus 6-9112 in one package) (Uses # 40 chain Pitch 1/2" and roller width 5/16") (Uses #101460 lift tube and #9750 5/8" x 69" belt) 1972 model 6-0200 plus 6-9112 - Fits Commando 800 (Uses # 40 chain Pitch 1/2" and roller width 5/16") (Uses #102729 lift tube and #102743 5/8" x 65.95" belt) 1972 model 6-0200 plus 6-9112 - Fits 800 Automatic, Bronco 14, Charger 10, Charger 12, Raider 8, Raider 10, Raider 12, Raider 14 (Uses # 40 chain Pitch 1/2" and roller width 5/16") (Uses #101460 lift tube and #9750 5/8" x 69" belt) 1973 model 6-0200 plus 6-9131 - Fits 8hp 4-Speed (Uses # 40 chain Pitch 1/2" and roller width 5/16") (Use #102729 lift tube and #102743 5/8" x 65.95" belt) 1973 model 6-0200 plus 6-9113 - Fits 8hp 8-Speed, 10hp 8-Speed, 10hp Automatic, 12hp 8-Speed, 12hp Automatic, 14hp 8-Speed, 14hp Automatic, 16hp Automatic (Uses # 40 chain Pitch 1/2" and roller width 5/16") (Use #101460 lift tube and #9750 5/8" x 69" belt) 1974 model 6-0201 is a 37" model 1975 model 6-0202 is a 37" model Notice the early snowthrower model numbers include the width followed by the year the model was introduced.

There is one model listed in the Implement Interchange Chart in that section...

gwest_ca-(File Mod) I can verify that the purple wire does go to the engine stator from the connector plug. Also the white wire from the engine coil to the connector plug changes to a dark blue wire that continues to the ignition switch Clueless i have the what is believed to be the original 6 connector switch, which I have replaced with another 6 connector switch. I will continue to look at those manuals you listed. I am really finding this wiring from a previous owner challenging to say Thanks again for everyone's help in this endeavor

As per my local WH mechanic for 30 years, he said those small tenths and hundred on the OEMs make a difference, the belts were specifically designed by the wheel horse engineers, that's the reason they last damn near forever. Once Toro took over they eventually had belt companies start producing them and close was good enough. "Close but no Cigar" - Richard Boone.

E-tank will clean those wheels up no problem

Last year I committed to buying two sickle mowers, then bought a whole sickle mower machine. The one from Skunky was so massive, I passed that on to a larger tractor collector. Another was so siezed up in the box and undercarriage, it was pretty much wall art. At my plow day, a young local saw potential in the sized one, and offered to trade me this moto mower. I see it’s a type 100, which I believe is a 10 hp machine. This thing is close to the size of an RJ and 10 horsepower? Wow! It’s in dire need of attention. I’m not sure if I’ll keep it around for a while, or pass it on. But I do like the clutch pedal/foot rest!

I’ve done it with my 8 hp 8 speed 502. I wouldn’t recommend it honestly!

The Kohler wiring shows a white wire to kill the ignition and a violet wire from the regulator B+ to charge the battery. This is not shown on the Wheel Horse wiring diagrams. Wish I had included it when coloring the original diagrams.

That definitely is important, Eric. I agree with that 100%.

Thankyou for the ese details 953 nut. It's amazing just how much stuff they made. Puts my little lot to shame. A friend and I have built a 4ft tow-behind mower powered by a B & S 8hp which works well on shorter grass but it struggles and conks out with the long stuff. Maybe I should just put a larger motor on that. I guess one way might be to power up a hydraulic unit to drive the blades instead of the B & S. I have, however, just found this advert on Marketplace for a D200 which includes a PTO driven cutting deck. Bit expensive at £2,900 but still interesting.

Not being familiar with your yard layout... Is there a way to push pull tug roll the tractor under cover?

We were in Baton Rouge for the last two weeks..... it wasn't unusual to see the weather app in the morning: Temperature = 89....... real feel 113..... it was like wearing the heat and humidity.

Thank you everyone. It was a good peaceful day spent with family. Appreciate everyone’s thoughts and kind words.

Definitely a Magnum 12. Even if no sticker the oil pan is identical to a K-series as it should be. Command engines are all aluminum on the block construction. This is a cast iron block.

If you find yourself near Dayton, Ohio, definitely check out the National Museum of the US Air Force. Wear comfortable walking shoes because you will spend all day there.

Very cool. Many thanks! Dad and granddad were Air force. Grampa was a pilot, Dad was a Mechanic. Growing up in the Midwest we would go to S.A.C museum and airshows. Folks would gather around to listen to them thinking they worked there being so knowledgeable. As a kid it made little sense. Just proud and could not comprehend how they gathered so much information about aircraft. Thanks, Great memories!

Here is a picture of that axle pin. And I also got this seat for $10 it's the same one I got on my other plow horse the 73' and I like it on that one.

Transmission is apart. Good news is no broken teeth, no metal chunks, and a couple of needle bearings fell apart as I was taking it apart, but no damage from that. But.... There are some teeth that got ground on. I'm guessing your guys solution to that is just file a little bit on the teeth and smooth them up. Put my order in since I don't need the extra bearings. And another question is this belt guide/brake suppose to be welded on? This is the arm the clutch idler pulley attaches to.

I downloaded a bunch of manuals tonight and one thing I've noticed is that they're not very helpful or detailed with supplying the owner with any useful information to hooking up and using and of their implements, not like my old John Deere or Kubota was