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Came home after a week hiatus at my cabin up north WI and found this on my porch. Return address says it came from @19richie66 but I suspect Hank @JPWH had a hand in this. Note the ship to address... WHX? Tractor Farm?!?! Since I don't know who it came from I will thank both you turkeys! BTW I saw what the postage cost and payback's are a ! Not only that one just like it was GIVEN to me at the BS from @Racinbob ....sure does fit nice on a finely patinaed 604 Bob! Although not correct who cares...promise to give it a good home on a 1077!

With two horses (legged versions) at my place I have a regular supply of fertilizer to deal with, until now dealing with it was a tractor-trailer, hand loading/unloading job. Last autumn however, after a long wait searching upay, this spreader appeared. I think I got lucky, had to pick it up from central Wales, around a 5-6 hour round trip but it was worth it. At approximately a third the price of new and in really good condition, I’m a happy bunny. Only had a couple of things to do to it, the bed chain and the ratchet pawl. Here are a few statistics, 27 cu ft capacity or 1/2 ton (wet material) I’m confident that the tractor with handle it, just use a bit of common sense with ground conditions.

I am in the same boat. None of my family has the bug and I suppose like so many other collections my herd will go to the highest bidder when I pass away. I may begin selling them off at some point like Russ @SALTYWRIGHT has begun doing. He is seeing to it that his horses go to good homes. God willing that will be several years away for me but I plan to enjoy them as long as it is fun. When it become a burden rather than a joy then I will have some decisions to make. That is one of the great things about this group, they are my family when it comes to so I guess I do have family to pass the herd on to!

You may have a bigger problem if she reads this thread.

The only part I had in this was I asked @19richie66 if he would be ok with shipping it to @WHX20 instead of me. You sent me some cables a while back and I owed you shipping on those and You got my cards at the big show and traded cards for me. I also was told @Coulter Caleb worked hard trading cards for me. I had 21 cards traded and wasn't even there. I want to thank all who had a hand in helping make this happen. Jay

Twice now... I've needed a part and had members I've never met in person send them... At no cost... Halfway across the country to me or my honey. Good people here.

She's the smartest person ever known. Almost half a dozen degrees and she's spent most of her life with a septic tank. It looks like she poured my whole chicken fryer full of lard and chicken fat into the sink. Looks like I'll be getting the tank pumped before fall. Could be worse. We could have a garbage disposal. 😀😕

Some of these are wheel horse tractors but I decided to put it in non Wheelhorse discussion just because it's mostly about other stuff. @jabelman... Scroll down.... Pitcairn. This particular Tractor sits in one of the many buildings on site and it proves that the Owls Head transportation museum knows exactly what tractor should be working for them. This is one of a couple owned by the museum and it is claimed to be a 1936 or 37 Toro. I believe this to be a 1974 c - 160. It is a former puller tractor that was retired and now this guy just brings it to shows. It's orange so it's awesome. Me returning from the Tractor Parade. And by special request... Pitcairn super mailwing.

Please let Craig @AMC RULES know ahead of time so he can get loaded up!

Make up some adjustable ones then you can hace any degree of toe in ...(or out) that you want and make up for any bent parts

I am buying more horses not Cubs just because of this forum! It's nice to get help from people who are friendly verses other forums where they seem to just can't wait to reem someone. Randy

Hope it fits the bill. Don’t worry about my part of the shipping(it was kinda split between us). It was worth my part just to meet you at the show.

You don't know the half of it machine dude ... I just came home to find a very nice 60's vintage steering wheel on my porch sent by a member here with no questions asked. This is the generosity of the fellas here and this is not the first time this has happened. I'm convinced it's not this forum so much anymore but the caliber of guys and gals that hang out here and share a passion for these little red . Don't get me wrong I love RS and visit here more than any other GT site. The real high lite is meeting some of the clowns here in person at shows and whatnot. Best thing you can do @Machineguy is pony up 20 bucks for a supporter... this is what keeps the lights on here and ad free!

Can't get enough of this video

Ain't it crazy... The stuff ya find laying around the house sometimes... Well done men.

The people on this forum simply amazes me. Seems as if everyone goes outta the way to help a fella out no matter how many states are between them.

I thought those symbols represent the grade. One thing for sure, that old hardware is MUCH better than today's. I can remove every single bolt and nut from a 1960s tractor without breaking or striping one, yet try that on a 10 year old anything and half of them will be striped or broken off

Then a bracket is probably your best bet! We have to be fabricators sometimes to keep these horses alive and kicking!

The donut is welded to some shifters. If not welded it is retained by a 933168 roll pin replaced by 32121-114 spirol pin. (5/32" x 13/16") If the pin is broken the shifter tries to rotate instead of sliding the shift rails into position. Give the donut a good twist to make sure it won't rotate on the shifter. The pin shares the same hole as the set screw but stays farther to the rear to leave room for the dog-point. Garry

Your shifter is held in place by what is known as a "Dogpoint Screw". The attached pictures and explanation should get you going. If your shift lever comes out of the transmission or is stuck in one gear first back out the “Dog-point” screw that retained the shifter. Take a look in the hole the shifter came out of to be sure it is in neutral as shown above. Inspect the dog-point to be sure it is in good condition and back off on the locking nut a couple of turns. Insert the shifter and run the dog-point into the dimple in the shift lever collar snugging it up with an allen wrench, don’t tighten it. Be sure the shifter works smoothly then tighten the lock nut while holding the dog-point steady with the allen wrench.

Yes he did Jay... I saw your cards on @Vinylguy's table early Saturday and when I heard you won't make it I sent Coulter around with them. He looked like he needed something to do, knew where everyone was at and sides really enjoyed it! Most of the one's he didn't get left already. Good kid @PeacemakerJack and was a pleasure to have him along!

Kinda. I was offered a 953 a couple months ago from another member on here. Just when I had given up after losing one on ebay, a couple days later, I get a message titled “953”. I opened it and was surprised by the offer. A little more than I was hoping to spend but it was just what I was looking for. I just finally got everything lined up and my brother in law picked it up for me. I still need to make the trip to the panhandle to get it. Can’t wait. Now to make some room in the shed to park it out of the weather. Cannot wait to get a garage. These are pictures that he sent me. More to come after I get it home in a couple weeks.

Check out some pics of the older horses with Techy engines. Like a 654. Those aluminum block engines used an exhaust support from the factory.

Having been on RS for many years now and seeing how "frugal" the Pond family was, my guess is whatever brand you could get the most pieces for the price! Not a bad thing, just conservative!

Too tight and it can certainly crack that aluminum block. Get your self a "nut" and cinch the pipe. Also couldn't hurt to support it as well

I have seen many a muffler pipes being held tight with a conduit nut.

I’d need a big trailer or box truck unless I can get Kevin to pack it up for me !

Haul it to the Big Show , we will help you whittle down the herd , plus we missed you this year.

That about sums it up. We are a community of mostly like minded helpful people who also have an affinity for tractors. From time to time we have had the predatory posters who will not play well with others, but our moderators do a super job of letting them know our expectations of fellow forum members. Thank you for reminding us what a great job they all do.

I’ve been on other garden tractor forums but this is the best by far! Even in the alternate brand area the discussion is open and fun. Many areas of discussion on here and folks have fun with it. Great job everyone!!!!

OK, Gents, progress has been slow as I am waiting for my bearings, seals, gasket and pinion carriers to arrive. While waiting, I cleaned up the brake drum, had the old key ways in the axles welded, and cut new full length key ways. The brake drum not only had a taper across the face, but it was also eccentric to the shaft. Not any more! I had a friend weld the axle keyways (wish I could weld like that), and remachined them. The new hubs fit nicely, and I match drilled a divot in each axle for the second set screw. I will be using cone point set screws in the divots, and hoping this eliminates the hubs “walking” on the axles.

Yes sir...that's what I do.

It is not worn out just broke in good. If you get it change all fluids, Jack up front end so a transmission fluid will drain out. Grease everything . Replace fuel line , fuel filter, drain old gas and replace , add some Sea Foam. New plug and air filter . I have a 87 310-8 with unknown hours , runs like a top and a 416-8 with 2000 plus hours and still does not use oil and runs like a top. Both Magnum engines. You should change the drive belt .

Built a light bar for my B-80 the other day and got the lights all put on and wired up today. I'll post some pics of how bright they are this evening.

Since we live in the same town , you can leave them to me . I will probably take the dirt nap before you. Where are you located in Richmond ?

Very useful animals are pigs. You can use every part for something. There's only two things you can't use. The curl in their tail and their squeal. If they could fly, the price of bacon would go up.

If you have someone in your family (child, grand child, niece, nephew, etc) that seems to have a real interest in them, then I would pass the reins over to them when it's time. At least you'll know that they'll get a chance to get out & play. I unfortunately seem to have no younger person in my fam that has a true interest at this time. They're all too busy with their face in a TV pushing buttons on a controller.

Caleb is a great young man!

Generally, a 12hp IDI diesel will pull just as hard as a 16-18hp single cylinder gas engine - and then some. Sarge

At the big show @stevebo taught me how to wet sand and buff paint. I think he has a before picture, but that’s how the 656 got it’s name “The Polished Turd”. (He) we really made that thing pop in just a couple hours’ time. Hopefully you can see the hood shine in this pic, it’s the one I’m driving. My kids and wife run the reliable Kohlers

Ditto...only sad part was the cut off steering shaft cut off...hate to see a good steering shaft cut but sure did make it easy to press the stub out!

I had gotten what was left of a 68 Commando 8 from 953nut at the Big Show. He got the transmission and the engine was already gone so was the wiring. I've been scavenging parts for my other tractors. The 854 got the implement lift lever and lock. One of my other Commandos got the steering wheel, which came off suprizingly easy. Used one of the footrests also. My other Commando got the seat pan, which was in a lot better shape than the one it replaced. Today I took it completely apart, cleaned everything and made sure what was left are good usable parts and stowed it all away for either future use or for sale. I now kind of wished I didn't sell the hood or the belt guard. They would have come in handy. But I did make a couple of bucks. Even Richard got little out of it too. I got quite a pile of parts for 15 dollars

I joined in April knowing I was going to get a Wheel Horse. I really haven’t participated here until a couple days ago and man I’m impressed! People on here have been as you described and hearing about the generosity shown towards you is amazing to me. Probably a reflection on your character in my experience. I’d say being a supporter is my next move. Good stuff here for sure. I’ve seen the emotional, sentimental and all around fascination for these machines and the sense of community within that.

Checked the oil, belts, and started all the motors on the 1958 Wheel Horse RJ's this morning. Also changed one of the recoils to have a better starting motor!

I told my wife that I am not going to buy anymore tractors, however if a nice original not all hacked up C-141 Automatic comes up at the show I'm going to buy it. Well she wasn't to happy about it but......

to the Mike. A 312 8speed one family tractor with 700 hours is a great find. You didn't mention if it has a deck, but even w/o any implements $400 would be a good buy. I would not be concerned with the H/L shifting. It is not uncommon to have to roll the tractor to let the gears engage. The 12 HP Kohler and 8 speed tranny are about as bullet proof as you will find. Like Dick stated, what you think is blow by, is probably normal crankcase pulsation from the piston stroking. If you hold your palm over the fill pipe, you should feel a pressure/vacuum pulsation. One problem you may find with any tractor with the fuel tank under the seat. After sitting for extended periods , they may be hard starting. This is usually due to the fuel leaking back to the tank and the fuel pump losing its prime. The check valves in some pumps are drop tight and it is not a problem. If it is a problem, a simple solution is to fill the tank when it is not going to be used. This keeps the fuel pump submerged and it will not lose prime. The reason I point out this potential problem is to prevent unnecessary wear on the battery and starter while trying to prime a dry fuel pump. These pumps are designed to push fuel, but they don't pull fuel very well.

I also have a 312-8. I have had the problem with the high/low sifter. Usally a hair of the clutch and it slips in. As elcamino said change all the consumables and if dirty VERY VERY carefully pressure wash the exterior and stay away from the electrical components. If the engine needs washing, wash it lightly while the engine is running at idle. I think that 400 bucks is a good price for the tractor with more money going towards any additional implements. Just remember two things. One and two these tractors are very very addicting. -Tractorboy

Very good explanation and pictures. Should be saved for future questions about shifter problems.

I watched them do it. You can polish a turd. Also, a nice set of painted rims and nice or new tires will completely change the look of a tractor. Add a nice seat and run it.

If the flat bars on the spindle that the tie rods bolt to are twisted at all it changes the toe in big time. One day I was not paying attention to what was happening in front of me and got one tire up against a stump. The flat bar twisted easier than I expected. A large adjustable wrench closed up on the flat bar was all it took to correct it. Garry