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Awhile back my WH buddy (groundhog) calls and sez would I like to have a Massey Ferguson 1650 GT -- so I sez---- huh? I didnt even know Massey made a small tractor! So I go and look at it and it was rough, been sitting out for years! (you know, like a lot of our horses come to us!) BUT!! a 2000rpm 42" tiller was in the deal and it looked better than the tractor so that clinched the deal at $150. The MF 1650 is fairly close in size the the WH D's, though somewhat more 'beefier' --- Kohler K341, Eaton hydro with hi & lo range, 3 point hitch, and a 48" deck (that turned out to be beyond repair) So I haul him home - mostly to get the tiller! But I get to tinkering with it and find its not as bad as I thought, virtually undisturbed as far as jake leg mechanics. Engine first getting fuel to it and it started right up and ran GOOD, so scrounged up tires to ck the hydro/gears/steering, etc -- well, again everything worked beautifully. By this time I am getting pretty impressed with thing and started doing a good thorough clean up. Has Ross steering (just like the WH) and it needed rebuilt and all linkage freed up -- and toe-in set!, had horrible toe-out which made steering a bear. I scrounged up another deck and got it rebuilt, and all the tiller needed was the 2 oil seal on the gear box and it worked great. Anyhow after bout 3 months with lots of elbow grease, the dern thing is SWEET! Ive really taken a liking to it. Course as we already know, the Kohler K341 is a hoss and this one was/is in excellent condition, as is all the running gear. Have since found out MF had a 1655 and a 1855 with Onans that is even more 'beefier' than this 1650 - Ive been kinda looking for one of them.....

Picked this original 867 up locally. Runs and drive great

It’s been a slow process but I finally have all the parts and pieces welded, painted, and cured. This weekend I hope to assemble everything including the pump and begin figuring out all of my hydraulic connections. Once I get everything put back together and pinned on the tractor I’ll post a few more pics.

Stumbled across this video earlier...Beautiful collection...hope y'all enjoy it as much as I did

Spring cleaning the stables... netted me a couple beauty shots today.

Backing up my new truck today...looked in the camera and saw this!!

just replaced the fuel pump on the k 301, it was old and starting to leak, debated rebuilding or replacing, went with the newer plastic type from eBay. after a simple swap , and a quick start up, the first thing I noticed was the solid /smooth idle, apparently the pump was loosing its push and giving me that erratic idle. the fuel adjustments are also immediate , so a quick swap solved two problems , glad I did it . pete

Well we have spark and she turns over. Throwing some fuel to her tomorrow. Hope for the best.

Hey guys ! I want to introduce to you the first garden tractor I drove when I was a kid.... My dad was an official french wheel-horse dealer. I brought it home and I'll do an overhaul, put a kholer 10hp on it, new paint and I'm looking for stock rear wheels....

Nice! I love the Manke’s dealer decal on it . You should load it up and go show Harley Manke he will probably remember who he sold it to when it was new!!

Now Tom you are just trying to git my goat.....sides your whole family ain't got enough fingers & toes to count all the tractors you got! Is a nice score and dibs if it doesn't grow on ya. I could spot that classic two spoke from a mile away.! Dash like that @Vinylguy could put you out of business. Please tell us you took the cigar lighter out for safe keeping? Would look nice parked next to a 857! Yes he is and doing a damned fine job of it and yes they are Jeff ... They are just a few blocks down the street from Tom's place and I stopped in ther once when visiting. Nice folks and had some nice gently used 520's but definitely dealers prices. Even the rusted stuff outside was a little high.

Got a face only a mother could love.

Great tip Garry @gwest_ca! If using a battery I would caution you that a dead short like that could cause the battery to explode so it is best to cover it with an old wool coat and weight down a plastic container over that. Eye, face and hand protection should also be used.

Come on everyone!! I know you all have stuff to sell. Post it here ...

I love the patina on those Craig.

Is a csmera... like a rear view mirror on steroids?

Always nice to see a in the rear view!

All done except for the hydraulics. I will tackle them over the weekend.

VERY nice original tractor.I guess tractors that haven't been all butchered up are still out there.Have fun with your new toy.

Great looking tractor!!

Run it until you kill it... like you do them Techys.

I would not use WD-40 as a flush, the diesal fuel will do the same job for a lot less money. Hypoid gear oil is made for posi traction rear ends which produce more heat than most. It won't harm a transaxle, but it is overkill. Regular gear oil is fine and cost less.

Well a little more done. Finally moved her inside so I could work out of the rain. Got my new tail lights mounted, ignition switch in and wiring figured out. All temporarily wired up to get it working correctly. When it is right I will make a complete wiring harness. Fuel tank in, solenoid in. Next up is to run the fuel line, filter, and get the right length belt...... baby steps before leaps and bounds 👍

Only pic I have of Shynon ....

Almost forgot to thank our host. Property, buildings and displays he has are awesome and you cannot have a better setting for an event like this. Weather was a bit cool and damp in the AM but turned beautiful in the PM.

Hello All, So a little story / thoughts on this big Wheel Horse circle of life. Several years ago Steve @stevebo sells his K series single equipped 416 to a seldom seen member here on Redsquare (I forget his screen name--his real name is Lou). Things go along and something goes wrong with the 416... it gets left outside, then it ends up at my place in a tarp shed, then the mice get into it, then I move the tarp shed but not the tractor and it spends yet more time outside. Steve contacts me about my 416 trade deal I'm trying to make but we never get together on that particular tractor...I end up trading that 416 for a GT1600 and a GT2500---both needing work but being a Briggs guy I couldn't help myself. A couple weeks pass and I say "Hey I have this 416 that is full of mice.. I think it was yours" and I send pics---he confirms and says "I have a pic of my son at 2 or 3 sitting on that. So we put a deal together and I end up with his 857 and he ends up with this 416 and another one of my 416s this time with a Magnum. While at his house we discuss his custom puller / rat rod with the Wisconsin yank start... and long story short I go home with that.... The funny part is I look at it close and realize that I had given Matt @grnlark the bare sand blasted and primered 70? frame and dash tower / rear fenders with no wheels or trans or motor or hood... Steve says---yah I got it off him and built this rat / puller out of it and a Wisconsin I picked up at Zagray farms... Its just funny how these tractors seem to make small orbits right back to where they came from... See you all at the show!!! Tony

Not sure how I missed this build thread but looks like quality work to me.

after the washing

Have a spare auto battery that holds a good charge and a set of booster cables? Hook one cable to the levers. Hook the other cable to a piece of iron bar (so you don't burn the cable clamp) and hold it to the shaft. The idea is to use the battery current to travel down the shaft, through the rust between the shaft and lever to the lever and other cable. Rust is resistance to current flow so it should get hot and you may see a puff of rust come out if it works. Usually a 2-3 second shot is all it needs. You can also use an AC stick welder instead of a battery. Garry

I have one. I just haven’t tackled it yet. I’m not exactly sure how to get the parking brake lever off. I tried to get the roll pin out of there before with a small punch and I was hitting it so hard I was afraid I was going to break it and the shaft that it’s on.

'69 Charger.

I use my tractors for their intended purpose, and then some, lol. I do have a small JD lawn tractor that was part of my Dad's estate - he was proud to own it and I just can't let it go for that reason, so it stays as a backup and does get exercised occasionally mowing. There are times my go-to '73 16 Auto has been down, so the JD can keep up around here, albeit it's pretty fragile in comparison. I have no fear of pushing any of my equipment into a worn out state - for me, there is no such thing. Engines can be replaced/upgraded/rebuilt, everything else I can repair or replace due to our extensive network of parts and vendors making new parts. There is a growing group of members here that are already helping out others on repairs just to keep these machines around - I expect that to continue to grow and expand. If I have a worn out part, such as a front axle - it gets overhauled and fully bushed with bronze or brass, these will outlive me easily. The only true thing that can possibly wear out to a point of no repair is a hydro transmission, but down the road, there will be other opportunities to convert them using commercial parts off other equipment. The growing trend in equipment close to ours is all headed to hydro drives versus gear drives - so it will be possible to fix any machines that simply become past a service life. Your double D deck and associated parts can be converted over to the newer style shafts/bearings - no worries there. Broken things can be repaired, duplicated or remanufactured - I'd bet we can easily keep most of these machines in service well past another 30yrs. For those that don't have the ability to repair this stuff, I'd imagine more members here will be offering the option to send your parts to them for repair work - some of that is already in place and hopefully, before this year is out I'll offer a front axle service. In comparison to the cost of modern equipment and it's shortcomings - there is no reason not to invest in these old, heavy, overbuilt tractors. Not much is made today that can keep up, let alone last as long as these machines. My motto is as follows - NEVER THROW AWAY BROKEN OR WORN OUT PARTS, EVERYTHING CAN BE FIXED Sarge

Agreed Pete, no PO cobblements on that one. The sheet metal is immaculate and the front end is perfect. A horse like that might tell out how things actually were when they left the factory. Tell you what Tom you bring that one to Portage for us to drool on and I won't forget your motor! Any thoughts on preserving it? Any clue how many PO's it might have went thru?

Steve it looked like it was a great show for you and others. Nice line up of tractors. Some you do not see much of any more.

I have a few projects in front of this but when I get to it I will sort through what I have and post pictures. I did discover a manual stuck in with the canvas. It states this cab is for C Series Tractors. Not sure how it will fit my 416-H. I'm still learning. Yep on the extensions. I can fabricate them myself. Yep also on the upholstery shop. BIGMIKE

Bob but that was kinda a stupid question .. I have nothing but . Not that I don't hold a grudge against a guy that may have a JD in his herd , or a nice Speedex or Panzer.....to each his own . My horses do everthing from mowing to tilling to plowing to sno blowing and every thing in between. Most of my herd are later to early sixties and I work the snot out of all them, even the ones that are "supposed" to be trailer queens and even the ones with marginal hubs/axles, Why you might ask? Because I enjoy wrencking on them almost as much as seat time. With the help of my bros on RS here even 60 year old parts are no longer made of unobtainium. That was a good typo .... wrencking ...sounds like I am wrecking as much as wrenching Sometimes not far from the truth!

Vise grips TIGHT onto the round stem (not the T handle). Give it a QUICK rap and it should break loose. Maybe use a crescent wrench on the Hex nut and remove the entire valve assembly. i

Its a Brinly bb-367 lift boom NICE SCORE!

Mixing Oil Brands, You're real rebel Sparky!

Same here Ritchie, I live on a big sand hill and grass was impossible to grow without hauling in tons of topsoil and even then. Turfs & deck rollers would even dig what little grass I had up. Got real old always dragging sand in the house. Installed a DIY underground sprinkler system and now I can get grass to grow in the cat box if needed! I do have an almost unlimited water source tho.

All this work to get this fan on here and it was pointed out to me I have the wrong direction fan. Thanks @wallfish. I was looking at it spinning from the wrong way. Back to the drawing board

@bmsgaffer This is the fan I am hoping to use. I have an oil filter wrench that I am turning down for a hub to fit inside the fan. Going to cut out the center of the fan so the fan slides over the pulley snout and then I will epoxy the “hub” inside the fan to make it all one piece. The bolt will go through the center and rest on the pulley snout like the original. Crossing my fingers

Been quietly following along. It's looking great so far.

Can't wait to see how your power steering set up works. I have a one from a super cub and it should be very similar. Looking good by the way! Randy

Not a filter Richard ... that's the makings of the cup holder!

@squonk that’s as close as I can get.

I like the looks of that with just a motor, steering wheel, seat and a Rat Fink Shifter!

What's a tractor without a few dents!

@953 nutIs that just a polite way of say'n I'm full of --it?

I noticed on you deck that on the center spindle you have your belt running on the smaller pulley and in post #60 that person has it running on the big pulley ?? Maybe that is a problem ??