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Found Dad a project 854 over the weekend that was sitting under a shed, sent it to him and he jumped on purchasing it. We checked it out as much as we could for a non running tractor, steering didn't have excessive play, nothing more than surface rust, mower spindles turned good with no play in the bearings, drive guard was present, hooked up jumper cables to it and starter spun the motor just fine. I put my hand over the exhaust and it had enough compression to move my hand, checked the coil - it was even sparking just fine, but it was missing the condenser so we cant fire it up just yet. This one looks like a simple tune up kit and she will be running again! He negotiated a nice bargain (at least to us) for only $150 ...and it was local too. The toolbox and hood support (AKA shifter tray ) both had at least 2" of dirt and leaves and I just expected it to be rusted through with holes. They also contained a bunch of original spare parts. Mower blades, original hood thumb screw, two hitches and original hitch pin, and a few nuts and bolts. Sorted all the parts out, then hit it with the shop vac. I guess being protected from rain by the shed — both of them were in great shape with not a single rusted through hole. After all the loose dirt was vacuumed dad hit it with the pressure washer to give him something clean to start from. Now for the missing/wrong parts: Will need to buy a ignition and key since the starter key has been replaced with a push button start from a 701 Will need to fill two holes in the hood support. In order to kill the motor a white push/pull lever was added to the hood support above the starter button button. Next to it a second push/pull lever was also added, presumably lights at one point? ...but we have not yet traced back the wires for that one. Plan is to remove those and fill the two holes. Will need to find a starter belt guard as its missing Will need new choke and throttle cables as they are frozen Will need to take a apart the two-piece gas tank and thoroughly clean it. Old gas was not left in it, but it is dirty looking with a flaky like mold or something that is on both the outside and inside of the aluminum tank. Will need to find a replacement glass bowl as it has been replaced with a more modern brass 90° barbed fitting Will need new tires as they are shot, we can put air in them enough to move it around, but they are dry rotted and crumbing to pieces and the air leaks right back out. This seems like its going to be a great project tractor and I cant wait to help build it with him.

Had the 312H out with the lawn sweeper for some yard clean up after work this past week. Now to get some tractors ready for Old Man Winter. Like the 1054 pictured last winter.

All original safari 335

A $50 gift card for my Christmas present!

Hello. .. All New member / Fellow little tractor Nut . . . Started this thread on "My Tractor" where I have done a few restoration threads for various other make tractors I have picked up, but this old girls post is not getting the attention I think it would here so I am starting a new thread here in the Land of Wheel Horse enthusiasts !! I am a Old garden tractor enthusiast and was in the middle of redoing an old GT16 " it's in the murray section of my tractor". I was suppose to be in the garage all day putting the GT back together, but am very glad now I checked out the estate sale!! They wanted $250 for it ( I got it all for $200) with plow blade attached and I got a thatcher attachment and a newer mower deck I see no way it will work on this, , but a cool looking little tractor !!! So was $200 High priced or a reasonable deal? - Not feeling to bad about it considering it runs and is ready to plow snow. There was No model number that could be found and it looks like the motor has been upgraded to a Harbor freight GreyHound 6.5hp Carb had a plugged jet - runs fine now, but seems to surge while sitting running. A big THANK YOU to GlennPettit - a Member here who popped into the other thread and enlightened me to year / model potentials, and also dropped a link to the Red Square forum. With his help I believe I have a 1961 Suburban, but not sure of model number / original HP. While I have heard a lot = I have no experience or knowledge with the old wheel horses other then they look like cool little tractors !! I have begun to do some more research and enlighten myself on the wheel horse's. The tractor came with a custom rear lift system that is ingenuous in my opinion - removed cable spool from little winch - fitted with flat bar and hooked to hitch - only downside is the motor does not have a charging system for a battery and charging before use seems like a PITA so I will remove the lift winch / save it for another project, and hook the rear hitch to a manual lift rod is my intent. I will post a few posts here to bring you all up to speed with where I am at, and not one massive post

Came in with a pounding headache, but needed to get the metallic black laid down since it is lacquer based and has to go down before the red and clear enamel. Now to try to mount the rear tires if I have enough energy so I can paint the rims (I'd mar them up if I painted them before mounting the tires). Oh, there's a rear fender surprise coming - a little twist on Terry's flat black fender decals.

I was going to suggest this same trick...be careful when releasing the strap though...several of my straps have chunks of my knuckles still in them from releasing them

I would qualify that statement by saying that most of their stuff is high quality. I recently purchased a pressure gauge for an application that I was working on, and the gauge they sent me was described as 1.75" diameter but it was only 1.675". The clear plastic lens feel off as soon as I opened the box. They happily replaced it at no charge, but sent me the same junky item as a replacement. After a full refund, I ended up buying a Chinese gauge off eBay for 1/3 the price, and free shipping from China. The quality was superb. I don't know how they sell so cheap and still ship for free. But that's a discussion for another day. Having said that, I use McMaster-Carr quite often, and 99% of their stuff is great and arrives the next day.

Axle keys, hairpin clips, lynch pins, cotter pins ????

On the hood I'm going to paint everything else with the red metallic, just the original recessed area will be black. On the rear fenders, I'm going to carry the black insert idea over to the fender tops. I'm going to wrap the black all the way around the fenders across the taillight area in the back. I plan to use the black on the shift plate/cover and the vertical piece under the dash. Just trying to make it a little different for Emory, so it will be all his. I also had @Vinylguy customize a set of his carbon fiber look decals for me and they are awesome! Terry's work never disappoints!

A rare find that far west but there have been others from Washington post here. That tractor is a 61 model 551. How factory correct are you looking to get with the restoration? The reason for asking is we can point out all of the incorrect stuff if your interested without seeming like we're bashing the tractor. There's quite a bit going on with that one and we can help identifying the parts you may need or want. ie: The plow is not Wheel Horse. Soak the brake band and lining in gasoline, once dry and clean you can epoxy it back on. Find something to set the brake or clamp it to the drum for drying and you should be all set. Check the steering gears for worn teeth. Common that people just keep turning wheel when they loosen up and slip so it wears down the gear teeth until you can't turn back the other direction. I believe that could be why the steering shaft was modified to go back farther, to wedge the gears together. You should probably get rid of that pot metal pulley on the engine so it doesn't grenade on your private parts. They're designed for electric motors. Go with a 2 1/2 inch cast pulley instead. Or wear a cup!

Welcome to Redsqure. I'm not a expert on 520h but i did own one. but sounds like linkage is binding or loose. Check the bolts that hold the frame to axle. 4 bolts under tractor are known to come out letting axle to bind . Other then that other experts will help you here soon.

Hey thanks guys that tells me what I need to know. I had a chance to watch the tractor pulls at the Florida Flywheelers meet in Ft. Meade last week and the little kiddos pulling was my favorite part. Some of them looked to be 6 or 7ish. The ground speeds were real slow and it looked to be a safely run event. My wish is to mentor Amelia in wholesome things that Papa can help her learn. I raised my sons to take care of and respect machinery and I hope I can play a small part in doing that with my granddaughter too. My hope would be to place an emphasis on how things work. How to grow to be independent and comfortable with things that command respect. The little 857 looked to be a possible starting point and to tell you the truth winning is not important. More just something that is hers and she can be proud of looking back as she gets older. Thankyou guys for your input. I really had no idea where to start and you have provided me valuable info.

I would guess that you have plenty of time. First you should check with your local pulling groups to see what limitations they have in place for age and class rules for the younger age groups. A Lawn Ranger might be a better choice for a young child. lower seat height and can be outfitted with a spring loaded hand clutch so it will come to a stop if the handle is released. Make it start out as a fun, safe and enjoyable outing and worry about winning later on. Just my take on it.

Thanks for all the welcomes . . . . Nice to meet you all Actually not working on the old girl today = I decided to take the day off and give my tired old hands a break today. Should get back at her soon, and will add more pic's then. Curious if there is a cheap replacement for the old shifter boot, and perhaps some insight as to the issue with the brake pad floating For your added entertainment - I attached some before /after pics of the old GT16 Twin with Blower I just (frame off LOL) refurbished prior to getting started on the wheel horse . . . Hoping the Old WHeel horse turns out as nice

First thing I went after was the Steering wheel and it was "as one" with the steering column and required some heat and persuasion. I was concerned after fighting the steering wheel it was all going to give me grief, but was all simple removal from there. I did find a few loose and a few missing bolts / nuts. Hoods off . . . Interesting how simple these old horses are . . . Has been customized it looks like as the steering rod comes through a large hole and not the smaller center of the three holes as I have seen on all the other 61's Removed the plow, and seems someone adjusted the mounts down and (sorry Pic's upside down) it is only two fingers off the ground, so not sure how in the heck they did not get high centered all the time or must of just plowed a furrow. Again the hand pivot / lift for the blade is poorly designed and placed and hits your foot, so will have to be relocated / Changed / Altered in some fashion. I do not believe this harbor freight motor has a charging system (anyone Know) or I would install a battery and use the winch lift I took off the back, but charging a battery before each use seems like a P I T A, so I will just get creative. Looks like I am in need of a new shifter boot as this one is all aged / cracked out - Any suggestions as to where a guy could locate one at a reasonable price? Is there other makes that will work? The Brake - HMMM - The Brake Pad was floating around loose binding inside the brake ring - are these normally glued to the ring or tightened in when bolting ring or? As you can see the brake hub is gacked up pretty good. Hood has some cracks so I will need to tig those closed. Motor is pulled - Trying to decide on relocating the fuel tank to up under the hood and adding a stand pipe exhaust with the good old tractor ting ting ting cap - that way both the big holes in the hood will have a use or I will need to fill them in . . . . I am in the process of reworking the lifting mechanism to the left side as well hoping I can reuse most of what is there. Okay . . . Think that bring us up to speed with where I am at

Hello. I do wheel horse salvage and would have new throttle and choke cables, new ignition switch and new glass fuel bowl. Also I would have the belt guard for the starter belt on the engine used. If you are interested email me at aztractor255@gmail.com and I can get you prices.

Here in denmark we have diesel specialist auto repair and parts stores. They carry that one way walve, and thay look the same and work just perfect. I use them on older diesel cars that has a problem with backflow from the pump. I can send some to you if you want. The ones I can get, are made to come apart, and you can seal the threads with a bit of teflon tape etc.

What is your definition of everything? Attachments or just Rear PTO 3 pt turning brakes. Biggest thing what is the condition of the hydro. Get it hot put it up against an immovable object will she spin her tires on pavement or dig holes in packed gravel??? Steering is often shot but that is reasonably repairable.

If it all functions without issues, then it is perhaps not completely wrong, but judging a price with no idea of condition is really not a sound practice Some of it look to be in rather rough condition, and other parts look OK. I would try and set a realistic price on the "with everything", and work from there. I have recently bought a heap of items, so this is how I would value it. Others may think differently: Deck 150 Tiller 300-400 Grader blade 200 Snow blower 300 max Plow/snow blade 100-150 max Which leaves just about 700 for the D200 itself. It all comes down to condition of it all, and what it could be worth to you..................... And remember, if a lot of work is needed, parts can be hard to find, and often costly to the D series.

I put new tires on my 314 and they were deformed and looked flattened out. I did get 1 on with starting fluid . But I used a blow gun with the valve stim removed. When i ignited it the tire and rim pooped up off the floor and I keep adding air with the blow gun. But the other side I couldn't get so I added a tube to it. Unless you take it to a tire shop some will never get it on. I didn't want to pay $10.00 for one tire mounted.

O-ring kit is handy - their stuff is all high quality , it's something to consider if you want to avoid the usual hardware store imported junk - like o-rings . Some good US made front wheel bearings might be another one . I'm lucky , have an account with them and live close enough that any order put in before 6pm is here the next morning via UPS - they send their stuff out every night , 5 days a week . Just fyi - they have some of the best Super bearing grade bushings available in the silver material - works a lot better and smoother than the oil-impregnated bronze type so any bushings you need and want to last , that is the place to find them . They do carry quite a few of the very thin walled ones used on your 1277 - that's where I've gotten mine in the past . I also stock bushings for upgrading front axles to get rid of the metal-to-metal contact on the steering spindles and center axle pin . If you ever need a bizarre specialty tool - they stock some of the most odd things on the planet as well . If nothing else , I use their catalog and engineering drawings of parts as a reference book - saves a lot of time and their tech staff is second to none . Also , they have a phone app that actually works excellent - even the search engine is far beyond anything else I've found if you don't know what something is called . You can check/update/change orders and track shipments on your phone quickly , save orders or wish list items for later , ect . Wish whoever designed the app would do everyone else's - this is the first app I can honestly say that there is nothing I don't like about it . Sarge

My yard is now white and there are still a few leaves on some trees. I guess I will clean those up in the spring. Snow blade is on the 520HC, 2 stage blower gets to rest this winter as I put the big 72" 2 stage on my diesel tractor with cab. This is an old picture with the small wheels still on. Cleat

She runs not even a puff of smoke on first start up I'm impressed! I gotta get busy if I'm gonna put the snowblower on it ! It got saved from the junk. Good original engine and it's gonna be back to work again for this horse!! Should I start a new topic called resurrection?

Another abandoned one here... pulled from a field, trans frozen solid, full of water. Been mowing the lawn here, past two years now.

OK.....maybe a little wishful thinkin

How long will it take you to fill the 40 x 60? If c-series don can't handle the Chevelle , I have a nice home in Richmond Va that it could move to.

Ok, Dan693 we need the story on that Chevelle. If you don't want that thing anymore I could probably help you with that. Because we all know that nobody wants a 1970 SS CHEVELLE. Especially with that cowl induction hood. I mean c'mon that thing is probably taking up valuable space in your garage. It's not like that is the most saught after muscle cars ever made so......!!!! 😂

Gonna be a beast! Might have to get someone to drive ahead of and behind you with "wide load" signs and amber flashers. can't wait to see more! 👍

for sure.... glad Glenn directed you over here. What you have is most likely the 1961 model 551... simply based on the fact that there are only two options.... and yours has the two piece transmission.... the other option being a 401 which would have had a three-piece. (center cast iron and two steel side plates.) The hood (although pretty hacked up...) and cast foot rests would be correct for the 1961. I only say "most likely" because as you'll find in Wheel Horse... you can cobble together multiple years parts and engines and build your own tractor pretty easily. When something has had significant modifications, it can be difficult to nail down a year/model for sure. For your 551 you should see evidence on the frame where the built-in battery box has been cut from the frame. Good luck with your project....

I was spoiled when I grew up having access to all of our stocked McMaster and MidWest Fastner cabinets/drawers. It’s so nice to have just these little things mentioned above stocked on your shelves. Here’s some links to some of my favorite suppliers for all your needs. https://www.mcmaster.com/ https://fastenerconnection.com/ - Midwest Fastner https://www.mscdirect.com/ https://michigan.hybrocosales.com/Home/Page/screws more set up for selling bulk but will help you out . http://www.midwestcontrol.com/ I know Harbor Freight is all Chinese crap but it saves a trip into town . I buy all their assortments of hairpins , cotter pins , electrical connectors , C and E clip , O-ring , heat shrink , electrical tape , bulk wire rack and even their nut bolt assortments (the heads of the bolts match the original bolts used on the 60’s tins) they’re not grade 5 and wouldn’t use them on anything structural . It’s cheap and will get you outta a pinch when you can’t get a quality replacement .

You could use a master switch hidden somewhere , just cut off the ignition power . My grandsons at 4 have figured out how to fire up their dad's 1057 with a screwdriver - those boys are going to be a real problem...the school has already been warned (twins , go figure) . Sarge

I put tubes in mine cause they can be a bear if you go tubeless.

Welcome back @TIGman, haven't heard from you for a while. I too will be doing leaf pick up the next few days.

Oh for sure. That's going to be the first step.

I would totally take you up on that! PM me about it when you get a chance!

Sorry to hear about the embezzlement Dave. I have bought several items from you before. It has been a pleasure doing business with you.

The important question is, has your wife let you back in the house?

On my 75# 2 hole weights I used "all thread" and a plastic "lock nut" on one end then a regular nut and lock washer against the wheel like studs then slid the weights over them and another lock nut tightened then cut of the excess, then on my other 520 I actually have two sets of weights bolted on 1 inside the wheel towards the trans the other hidden by wheel covers ,a little harder to get on there but doable, Jeff.

Dog-point set screws.

The original muffler which.was used for the test runs was unsuitable for scale appearance and was also in the wrong position. A 180 degree bend to fit within the side panels was needed. I tried a length of flexi pipe I had but this wouldn't bend into a tight enough radius. A piece of 15mm copper pipe was bent up using an ancient and crude pipe bender ( found at friend John's place ) where else, which gave the required result. The exhaust stub on the engine is approx 22mm outside diameter although the bore is a lot smaller. An adapter was turned up to suit. During the clear out at John's various stainless steel mufflers were found which John had made at work. This one was removed from a mower and cleaned up. This was connected to the copper pipe via an old 90 degree plumbing elbow after cleaning off all the muck. After finding a length of chrome plated water plumbing pipe a posher version was bent up. No prizes for guessing where these two items came from. Not sure how this pipe and the plating will stand up to the exhaust heat, but not the end of the world if it doesn't. An extension was made for the muffler again from copper pipe, as I didn't have anything else of a suitable diameter. This was drilled and the lower end plugged as per the full size. An adapter ring was turned up, drilled and tapped to hold everything together. This ring also located the assembly into the grill surround. The completed parts and after fitting. Still need to make some adjustments.

Yes. I run them loaded and with tubes. It adds about 20lbs a tire which helps a little bit in the winter to keep them on the ground but I notice it the most after the blower is off and I play in the mud early spring.

If they like to read ( my family is heavy into reading ) you may want to go to the used book store and stock up....L'Amour is addictive...lol.. and good reading for young minds.. good to ride the river with....

We made it to the show in spite of the rain and traffic. It was cool to have three generations attend... Mark my words, this show is going to become one of the best shows in the United States in the near future. It has grown immensely since our first time attending about 6 years ago. It draws in the rarest of the rare like this one of one 1969 Trans Am (the only one ordered with a red interior)... How about the very first Boss 429 Mustang to roll off the production line... With documentation... There was legendary race cars there in abundance like these titans of the drag strip... What about the third Corvette ever produced as a cutaway car to show the internal design of what would become “America’s sports car” There were about two dozen cars for sale in the corral like this “Eleanor” tribute for $42K. this 1977 Dodge van was like a time capsule of the club vans from the late 70’s and early 80’s Lots and lots of magazine article feature cars were there like this completely restored 1969 COPO Camaro. One of of the things I really like about the show is the variety of cars. All popular and many obscure American brands are represented. It is certainly worth checking out if you like old cars!

It would be no contest. John has a lot more experience. Besides, John built his from scratch, 👍 I just wrote out a check. Still eatin' Ramen Noodles to pay for it.😄

Got the differential back together, painted the tins. Now on to the loader.

I can't wait to see that one stuffed in the van at the next meet and greet or show.

Hope to this C-120 running that I bought this summer.

it was in the fridge, @WHX12 and I forgot to take it out

This fall tractor project work time has been minimal due to some significant plumbing work at my house to replace-reroute the master bathroom copper water piping due to an under slab leak. Now my oldest son and I are building new kitchen and laundry cabinets for his house and a second set for my rent house. They will have all the modern features. Pull out shelves large drawers for pots and pans. LED countertop lighting hidden under upper cabinets. Shaker style doors Using paint grade popular. We have 3/4 of the boxes built and have run out of shop room. Hope to paint these over the Thanksgiving Holiday and move them to his garage to have room to build the rest. Really wanting to get back to a Suburban project that I squeeze work in every now and then.