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It has been 36 hours since it last rained. One the longest stretches recently. The off season stable got a new roof this week and I had to move horses all over including the ones sleeping. Missing from the picture 418A (on loan to my new neighbor) Commando 8 in pieces being rebuilt. and 416 rolling frame waiting on a motor. I do not change implements anymore. No trailer queens here each one has a job, gets dirty and works.

You know those special firsts in a dad's life? When your daughter is born, her first steps, first day of school, first boyfriend? Then there is the first run on the horse. Brings a tear to my eye.

Yea...yea...yea Dad...Clutch, brake, choke, blah, blah, blah...Got it...Now for the important stuff - Where's the bluetooth connection for my wireless headphones? And, does this thing have a wireless hotspot? Lucky Dad - Lucky girl!!!

Well on my way to the VA this morning I see a place was doing a scrap metal drive to raise money. I happen to notice this little gem at 55mph. So j stopped and no one would be in until 1. So I went back and offered to donate some cash and they said nope, just take it since you were honest and waited and honest about the value. So there's a story of how being honest and doing right pays off especially for a guy like me who's always searching for these little gems.

Here's some better pics of the 1057 I sure hope my body guy can straighten this out .

That's pretty much how it went.

Tuna cans for pulley covers anyone?? Some would call it "character"

I might finish one, one day. My wife seems to think I am Bob Villa or something. Home improvement is driving me crazy. I need to be around gasoline, not thinset & grout.

Believe me, if I uploaded the video, you would know it's her first time. Didn't hit nothing, like my niece did.

Awesome lineup of Horses you got there !!! Now I can show this picture to the wife and show her I'm not the only one with this addiction.. !

I would like to thank all of you for your comments and suggestions, all are invaluable, I have to say this forum is unlike any of the others I have joined for information. Anyway, I took the starter out and took it apart, cleaned it up and used a dri lube when I put it all back together , I removed all the tins and I cant believe the amount of crud there was behind it all, I took the opportunity to give the tractor a much needed once over and I am very happy to report that it fired right up at the turn of the key, no noise from the starter no drag just a healthy whir of the starter spinning the flywheel, now as to the year of this tractor, I bought it from a buddy of mine in 1989 with 20 hours on it, I thought he said he bought it new in 1986, I was wrong it was 1985. again I would like to thank all for your comments.

Love the still on the front of the 753!! A really nice line up Paul.

I realized while sitting on the old girl for all of these hours this year, how much more enjoyable mowing the lawn is with her. Although I have other tractors and a professional mower that do it much faster, i like this one more. Call me crazy but somehow doing it this slow with her, it gives me a feeling of calm and peacefulness that I don't get with others. Perhaps because she is from a very different time period when life was much simpler and not so hurried, while using her it brings me back to that period and state of mind. I think while mowing of that Wheelhorse Suburban advertisement with the happy guy mowing and waving to the onlooking neighbors. That is pretty much what is going on here.

Sorry for the lousy picture. It's a few decades old. My Dad, God bless him, was most definitely a guy that make things work the way he wanted them and was responsible for some things that didn't seem out of place way back in the day but would make guys cringe now. His second new Wheel Horse was a 704. It wasn't long before he discovered that the air cleaner on a K-181 was larger than the one on a K-161 and that's what he wanted on his. With the difficult access to the motor he typically would have just left the hood off but I talked him out of it. Maybe I should have kept my mouth shut?

Warms my heart.

An early "Green Propulsion Technology" experiment by the Ponds - Circa 1949. Didn't pan out since they couldn't find spare parts... Second generation Pond experiment with reusable Hippie-induced attachments - Circa Mid-60's. Once again, the technology proved ineffective as the VW company was accused of rigging the bus so the emissions from the WH (er...camel) were redirected into the atmosphere without any treatment, creating the earliest stages of climate change... Final problem with the Pond experiment: Collectors began hoarding the units, creating an artificially high price, and triggering Congressional calls for an oversight committee into why these early WH Green Technology units were the originators of climate change. After years of investigation and millions of tax payer dollars, the resulting massive recall of all early WH Green technology caused an uproar in the WH collector community, with hoarding behavior and cross-state "horse-thieving" that continues to this day...

It kinds looks like your seal was installed backwards but it's hard to be sure. To avoid any nomenclature confusion this is the side that faces in: Assuming your bearings are in good shape make sure you get all the burrs off the shaft. I use a fine emery cloth until the shaft is glass smooth. Yes, like a plumber but I'd suggest finer. There's no protective coating but you're not really removing anything but burrs and rust. Pay close attention the the keyway. You can put a piece of tape (electrical) over the slot if you'd like but I don't. I spread a light coating of oil on the shaft and just slide it on. Make sure it's starting to seat properly and then gently drive it home. I use properly sized washers and short lengths of pvc pipe. The washer will allow you to set the seal perfectly flush with the case.

Just because the frame is powder coated doesn't mean it can't be used as a ground. It's no different than if you had painted it. Just remove a bit of the paint (coating) where the mounting bolts come through and add a star washer under the nut. Use your multimeter to make sure that you have a good ground connection.

I stumbled upon this and I thought it was very ingenious and decided I'd share. Not sure which forum topic was the best to post it on.

Showed this to my wife too, she gave me a big hug knowing I only have a dozen!

Wheel Horse relied on frame grounds ever since they were first made. My 1961 701 has ONLY metal to metal grounding and 53 years later when I restored it, the original grounds were still good. I mentioned that you should grind and place a star washer only because new paint jobs are done differently than the way Wheel Horse did them. They assembled unprimed, and then painted. The exception in my opinion was the '78 and later models that used a cradle mounted engine. Due to the rubber isolation, engine grounding was done via a cable from cradle to frame, and lots of electrical problems in those models can be traced to that cable.

I still have them if you would like to incorporate them into a build Tg! Ooops ...sorry Red Ranger just called dibs... prolly doesn't want to wreck his copy of a knee! It wasn't the tuna cans it was the holes drilled into an orginal (as in from 1961) belt guard. Now I have to weld in those holes, grind & paint & end up with a copy! I cannot vouch for the fact that they are indeed factory original tuna cans, they might have been cat food cans or copies thereof.

I like the idea. Too bad it's no longer a Wheel Horse.

Sounds like my kinda guy Bob... funny he didn't put on one of those gimbaled beverage holders or did you talk him out of that too? Which brings up another reason why...some guys just say it's my horse and I'll do what I like to it....they are right and that's ok with me too!

My 1067 is going to a show week after this done or not, sure the hood might need more work or some detailing to be done but so what, guys will get the gist of it.

LOL Wireless Hot Spot . too funny

As Bob said, clean and lubricate the shafts, I use wet/dry 600 sand paper and a few drops of oil to clean the shafts. While you have it apart you may want to contact @rmaynard to buy a new brake band pad; looks like you may need it!

Yup what is it with all the drama on all of those shows. I did this tractor in 5 weeks. Bought parts at the big show. Had it done for another show the 1st of August a few years ago. YOU CAN DO IT! From this: To this;

It's when you start collecting 'em... that you've problems. Imagine this "what's in your mirror" pict.

Looking good guy just do it on your own time and do it right. Remember haste makes waste and this ain't orange county choppers! Enjoy your restos and builds but keeping balance with family. The BS will be there next year too! Hug your kids.

I guess it's just the negativity and way you present your opinion that creates the issue here. We were talking about what people that own these tractors do to them that doesn't make sense to us as collectors in the hobby. Nothing more really. You basicly went off and started bashing someone's hard work and fabrication on THIER tractor that THEY own and stating that it makes the tractor a copy and not a real wheel horse. My OPINION along with many others I'm assuming at this point is "OK Buddy", we get it. You rightfully excerised your right to free speech by stating your opinion, soooooooo, let's move on. Let's all get back to shooting the breeze and enjoying our forum and talking about wheel horse tractor related topics.

We just attended our first of four Grandsons High School Graduation. Reed concentrated on math and science and finished 3rd in his class. He will continue his studies next fall at Penn State majoring in astro physics.

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Is that you Cas?

Great line up of Horses and cool photos of some beautiful country. Like Jeff, I'm calling Mrs K now to see this herd so She can see....I only have a slight infection of the WHA.

I dunno Turtles .... Ed might be right... she is giving you the dad I know how to drive it look!

Yup, beats the cost of a new cable too. My wallet likes those home fixes. If you're careful, no one will ever know you fixed the cable - looks fine.

Enjoy them at every stage,because before you know it you will be showing her daughter the control layout.It will be the same horse too,I'm guessing.

Paul, That is a fine herd.Beautiful scenery as well even if it is green.LOL Looks like you have all the bases covered.It must have taken a little time to get that many lined up! Thanks for sharing.JAinVA

Thanks! Too much coffee!!!

Jim, don't know what you just had for breakfast but I want some! That was goooood!

Decided to install a fuel pump on the old girl. Typical for these tractors once tank is at about half they start getting fuel starvation unless they are on level ground which I don't have much. Now she goes until the last drop. Noticeably works better also since there is constant fuel pressure. Like everything else on her, pump is switched by a ground.

Always a pleasure to see a well cared for survivor, continue to give it the love it deserves.

I don't want to confuse the issue here, but I've located a better schematic and parts detail list. This is Pats Warehouse link: http://www.psep1.biz/arinet.asp?aribrand=TO#/Toro_Consumer/1-0301%2c_Raider_10_Tractor%2c_1972/14.050_MANUAL_P.T.O._(PLATE_14.3)/1-0301-520-1972/A-5309-5309009B-00014 my direct email address is: daveoman@windstream.net 1969-72 PTO LIST.xlsx

These are the things that make you ask you why? Some guys just don't give damn ....that's ok too...our country (without going political on this otherwise fine thread) means that guys that are going to do what it takes to "just get by" are not like us hoobyists ..who might demand perfection (restorers) or likeness to near original in keeping with original specifications. or just plain spent 100 bucks on a tractor that they just want to mow their lawn with and will do whatever it it takes cobbling or not. That too is ok with me. To each his own I say and I hope that others think the same as me as to just keep doing these mods .....keeps us diehard enthusiasts out of the tavern and in our garages with hopefully our kids that can appreciate the difference between a 7 and a 9 16ths? In a nutshell it amounts to redneck.... strike that ... back yard under the orchard tree engineeering. .... strike that... innovative do it with what you have fixes tht make us wonder why!

and I'm on track to get my beloved 1976 back after a 17 year separation. I bought it new and shake my head when I see some of the things I did to it just because it was functional. Mount a exhaust insect fogger tank to the hood Hey, it worked. I've been wrenching on these things since the 60's and Jim nailed it. Times were different and we had our tractors to get jobs done and did whatever was needed to do it.

Pat_In_Denver submitted a post about his dad's shop-Grand Island N.Y. My dadbought a new 1974 C-100 Eight Speed from him in 1975. He still has the tractor! I looked for the orginal sales receipt but couldn't find it. I did dig up these two items.

Good for you Marshall still makes amps then... us in this hobby don't have that luxury, I guess we just have to settle with our "copies". Hey guess what my RJ59 copy still has 1959 steel in it! In bringing your thread back to it's intent Tg back in the 60's 70's horses were aplenty and not in the wildest of their dreams did people think that in 2017 a bunch of clowns like us would drool over tractors and pics no less that we would electronically yak about them on a thing call Red Square forum. All they knew was their tractor was broke, grass was needed to be mowed, snow moved & gardens tilled and they had to fix it anyway they could often on a limited or no budget & most often without proper parts, tools, & knowhow. They couldn't hop on the internet and ask a RS bro what's the best way to fix it. They couldn't be in the belt isle at TSC grab their smart phone and quick ask someone here what is the correct belt for a tractor and have the correct belt or bolt in their hands in minutes like we can. I myself is guilty as charged when doing improper things to a horse. I was a young man with not a lot of disposable income and there was no TSC and the only place to get parts for a 1067 was a dealer a byzillion miles away, the Studebaker wasn't up for the drive, and they often they didn't have parts. Lucky for me wealth (well kinda) & wisdom came with age! Back then there was no EBAY, Parts Tree or online ordering in your mailbox bearings in days. There was no big show where they could go to get parts to keep our tractors true "copies" but it didn't matter because farmer Joe couldn't afford to go anyway. So folks got by by doing the things we have seen. They used a pully off a junk corn picker and hotwired ignition switches. Necessity is truly the mother of invention.