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Here's the story....I am a career FF, and I do part time landscaping, my own biz. So I'm in this parking lot...and I have my Toro Grandstand (cutting) and my old Wheel Horse 312 Hydro as a mule for my aerations. Both are shoved onto my 12 trailer. Random cable guy in his truck comments on it and asks me if I want another WH, he'd sell it to me cheap. I said, no thanks, I'm good...then he sees my Firefighter plates and asks about that...I told him I do that full-time and do landscaping part time. He then says...How about I give it to you?? WHAT??? Of course I thought it would be in horrible condition...but when I picked it up...I was completely surprised!! He sweetened the deal...he also gave me his Trac-VAC!!!! What??? He just had no more use for it, lives on 7 acres and has big tractors and toys....and wanted to give it to someone who would use it especially a first responder. So to pay it forward...I've been doing all of my neighbor's leaves free of charge. Just wanted to share!!

Been looking for a 856 or 857 to add to the collection and got this from a buddy. He got it from the original owner and passed it on to me. Needs the fuel pump rebuilt and it will be back in service. I think I'm just going to clean it up and leave it a survivor.

Been some crazy times in 10 years. I was member 37 so many, many years back. So many friends made over the days. T-Mo just gave you the link to what the old forum looked like.... but here's the original banner before that.... the default one that came on the forum... and yes, where we got our name. It was the name of the skin that the forum had. Then Terry @Vinylguy came along and started showing off.... Then when we started getting a little interest from across the pond... anyone remember "Mith" ? We added World to the banner. Remember the banner contest? and the rotating banners? Lots of talented graphic artists got their submissions in. And then.... the disaster Karl spoke of.... what forced him to run web crawlers to manually extract our data from our failing "free" host. This is all anyone saw for weeks while trying to access Then remember Redsquare Jr? Karl's quick fix for us to stay in contact with each other! A temporary home while the new private RS was created. Then we finally settled into our current home which we all know and love today. Been an amazing 10 years.... thank you to all the friends I've made over these years, and especially @nylyon who made all of this possible!

I picked this sign at the auction yesterday. I couldn't think of a more appropriate place to hang it.

How cool is that??

Since I bought the 520xi last Friday, I've been slowly getting the 520H's ready for winter battle, I put the single stage on (the one that had the bagger on it)yesterday, and today the 'plow and a set of chains on the "Good Friday" low hour unit, so I decided since its warm and dry I would push my grass pile (from sweeping this year) back into the wooded area along our property line,was going good till the turfs "gummed" up past the chains with wet rotting grass and clay, so I had to get out the anniversary with 2stage to tug my stuck "dozer" tractor out of the "swamp" like mess,... I know there's a CUB CADET (FIL's) saddled up next to my 2 's in the barn but hey it's red too,lol, Jeff.

Terry, you are member #30 Jason, so glad you keep track of these things, and I have that magnet on the fridge, I can scan it. Those were designed and printed by @Vinylguy

This is the earliest I could find using the wayback machine. It takes a while to load, so be patient. https://web.archive.org/web/20080719135003/http://whtractor.15.forumer.com/ If you click on that, you will see why it's called Red Square and where the name came from. Chris, the original owner, when trying to find a template for the site, used the template called, Red Square (Karl or Mike can correct me on this). Hence Red Square moniker. I was member 30 or 31, I can't remember. I joined just under a year after the site was established when I traded for a C-141 Automatic. There were just a handful of active members then, those who were posting about every day. Chris, Mike, Karl, Stephen, and a few others. From that we grew and grew. I can honestly say, it's been a fun ride for the most part.

A big most humble Thank You to the founders of Red Square and those who have kept the site up and running. Also my respect to the Supporters who give their financial appreciation. Like others here, because of Red Square I have crossed paths with some good solid people that I would have never met otherwise. I'm sure Mr. Ponds never imagined what good seed he was sowing when he invented the Wheel Horse tractor.

One day hopefully you will reach the age when someone tells you, hay you forgot your pants, and you won't care ether.

Hauling the "Leaves Monster". My 310-8 is down for a starter so the C81 gets duty today hauling the Leaves Monster. The "LM" is a standard cart extended to 60 inches with high side rails. It holds more leaves than 4 or 5 tarps fully loaded !

Sorta...I have 2 of the magnets but not with the old address. One is on my fridge all the time the other stored away. I snapped a pic with my cheater glasses to show the size. Mike....

And I thought I was asking a lot of dump cart C-85

Anyone got an image of the old square forum magnets that from back around the same time of this forum header? Back then we were "whtractor.15.forumer.com" . This is the best pic I can quickly find on one of my tractors.

Stubborn Parts Removal Club.....looks like we need a new decal.

You got the first step of the 3 steps done, in becoming a Wheel Horse veteran of stubborn part removal. The next step is the frozen hitch pin removal. Once you have conquered that you will graduate to the ultimate test. The dreaded stuck steering wheel removal. After you have accomplished all of these three feats you will be awarded the badge of frustration. You will have learned and used every cuss word known to man plus invented a few more along the way. You will have earned the right to have joined the many that have come before you and walk down that hall of fame of the most frustrating Wheel Horse parts to remove. A very lofty goal indeed. Remember many have tried only to have their sprit ripped from them in a very heartless fashion. Very few have succeeded and those that live to tell about it are scarred physically and emotionally. That's why they are held with the highest honor.

Here's Walley in the beginning of July ... he lives in the U.P. at the DeerRanch ! Last year he had a drop tine .

i've reached that age allready

Pretty cool indeed. Now get to bed!!!

Here's a photo of the ones she knows about

I have nothing but awe for the beautifully restored or maintained machine.However they aren't in my price range so I drag home WHs that cost $500.00 or less.That price range keeps me out of the doghouse with the missus.This is the newest companion to the big ugly and hoodless 520. The seller said it ran and he got it started.No smoke or knocks but badly surging and it wouldn't stay running unless hooked to his truck battery. We dropped the deck and winched it onto my truck,tied it down and then loaded on the deck.Oh well I love the challenge.JAinVA

Talk about thanking for your service...A free Horse and Vac !!! And thank you for your service .

Paying it forward=Lots of seat time. Nice score.

11-17-1958 The Kingston Trio brings folk music to the top of the U.S. pop charts On November 17, 1958, the Kingston Trio’s “Tom Dooley” hits #1 on the Billboard pop chart. While they might not have wanted to acknowledge it, the fans of 1960s protest folk probably owed the very existence of the movement to three guys in crew cuts and candy-striped shirts who honed their act not in freight cars or in Greenwich Village cafes, but in the fraternities and sororities of Stanford University in the mid-1950s. In their music as in their physical appearance, the Kingston Trio betrayed little discomfort with the sociopolitical status quo of the 1950s. Yet without the enormous profits that their music generated for Capitol Records, it is impossible to imagine major-label recording contracts ever being given to some of those who would challenge that status quo in the decade to come. Joan Baez and Bob Dylan, for instance, may have owed their musical and political development to forerunners like Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger, but they probably owed their commercial viability to the Kingston Trio, who introduced the astonishingly fresh sound of a 100-year-old folk song into the American pop mainstream of 1958. The song “Tom Dooley” was probably first sung sometime after May 1, 1868, when a North Carolina man named Tom Dula was hanged to death for the murder of his fiancée, Laura Foster. Thanks to extensive coverage in major newspapers like The New York Times, the trial of Mr. Dula made him something of a national cause celebrity, and he proclaimed his innocence of the murder even as he stood on the gallows. It is not clear when or by whom the mournful murder ballad based on his story was written, but it was resurrected by the Kingston Trio in the late 1950s after hearing a fellow folk singer perform it in an audition at San Francisco’s Purple Onion club. The Kingston Trio’s version of “Tom Dooley” focused more on moody Appalachian atmospherics than on the graphic details of the love quadrangle found in the original, but that trade-off, combined with the Trio’s banjo-backed harmonies, made “Tom Dooley” into the mammoth hit that launched their massively successful career. And the Kingston Trio’s success, in turn, made it possible for a more political brand of folk music to move into the popular mainstream—and into the DNA of rock and roll—in the years that followed.

Couple more signs here Ed... you might want to keep a look out for.

Barr season Jack?!?! Some new critter I haven't heard of? Back in the day when I was in the service and stationed in CT a shipmate who got out before me invited some of us up to his homestead in PA to deer hunt. I cannot for the life of me remember where in PA but I remember sitting on his porch and watching whitetails out in a field the nite before hunt. Absolutely fantastic and a good hunt...invited back next year to "barr" hunt but sadly never worked out.

It does and chains, but maybe some more, I planning on replacing tires come spring then adding fluid,Jeff.

Some progress on the clutch assembly. I wanted hand and foot control. Still need to tie the brake into the clutch linkage. Had to add a second idler to make it work in the confined space. Next is the belt guard and foot pedal throttle linkage.

Wheel Horse to the rescue! Looks like the plow tractor could use some wheel weight. Mike.....

I'll get some photos tomorrow, here's the Commando 8 with the Raider 10 behind it...

Here is a picture of what Achto is talking about with bad rings. Here you can see the clean area from 12:00 to about 5:00...bad rings.

Steve, you reached that age at age 4.

Hear ye, hear ye......I'll raise my glass to that bit of wisdom and all the initiated WH brethren who have gone before me.

That kink in the flat metal for the flag is hard for most of us to duplicate. Have a welder so I would use 2 pieces of flat bar, overlap and weld them together. I use the same idea for a lift link. Use the unthreaded portion of long grade 5 bolts of the appropriate diameter for pins. Drill holes for the pins. Only the head of the bolt is welded to the flat bar. If an offset is required the bolts are inserted in opposite directions. The offset is then equal to the thickness of the flat stock used. Drill the hole for the cotter or spring pin perpendicular to the flat bar allowing just enough room for the lever it is attached to. Now you can install the pin without looking for the hole because you know where it is. Using a countersink on both sides of the small hole to chamfer it also makes finding the hole easier. The attachment holes and pins don't wear near as much from use when done this way. The pin is nice and square to everything and would work on the flag also. Garry

I don't think we want to know what they see!

And finish your pudding!

Oh great...they hired another slug at work.

OMG!! Turds have eyes....who would have known?? What would they see??

I just happened to notice this thread!!! (perhaps because I think I've check 3 or 4 times this evening!) but I was just trying to keep up with what was new, hard here on such an active forum, but even though it's bedtime I wondered what was up, read through and then wondered if I should post a comment. Yes this forum has been a great help to learning about my Wheel Horses and yes, there's info here and help here that couldn't be found anywhere else for any price! But crap! Anybody here for any time at all knows that! Yes I love to learn, but there's still something else here! I was touched by Karl's comments. I'm sure he's proud of what this forum has become but I'm equally sure that the aggravations have been intense at times for someone who cares so much. Mike, you impressed me early on and I was most pleased to meet you in person. It's very easy to understand how you have been an asset to this group! Then I began to wonder why I check in almost everyday, sometimes more often. Why do I look forward to what's going on here? I was around before computers, before the Internet but I've embrace technology and I've been on a lot of forums! No other forum (and certainly not FaceBook!) has captured my interest like this one! Great job! To all of you that helped make this what it is today! "HAPPY 10th ANNIVERERY" (sorry Richard! I just had too! ) But thanks to the "historian" we now have some more history of this forum! Thanks Richard! Happy Anniversary Red Square!

In case anyone is curious... Mike......

And Mike, you're post #10 in this thread as well, which is quite fitting for the 10th anniversary. I think that you had post #2, and for you being member #2, again fitting. I wasn't here this day 10 years ago, it will be another 2 days until my 10th anniversary here, but I am amazed at how whtractor.15.forumer.com grew to be WheelHorseForum.com. As I sit here thinking of the past 10 years, let me share with you all how I remember this place. First and foremost is member #2. Truth is, if it wasn't for Mike, RedSquare would not exist. I met "Sparky" here 9 years 363 days ago, and initially hit it off with him. This place was really the Mike and Karl forum for quite a number of months, and during that time is when we forged the first "RedSquare" friendship here. I recently saw a picture of his daughter on Facebook, and vividly recall when our girls met and had a "Webkins" friendship going on. By the way Mike, she's grown to be such a beautiful young woman! I have the upmost respect and admiration for Mike and that alone has made the past 10 years well worth while. Mike, I really can't thank you enough for all you do, and for your sense of humor, you are truly an amazing guy and I only wish we lived closer. Always not liking the name "RedSquare", and how I tried to change it a number of times, but was always voted down. Asking Chris to make me a moderator because I wanted to create a classified section so I could find a snow plow. (Moderators couldn't do that, so I asked him to make me an administrator, the beginning of the end!) The "Sparky in Deep" post (my absolute favorite post) Our first supporter, Eldon (kj4kicks) donating $35 so we could buy enough fBucks for chat Starting the supporter program to continue to fund chat as well as ad removal for supporters. The generous members of this forum led by Eldon to procure and gift to me my 1974 C-160, which is the year and model my father bought new! I still tear up when thinking of this. Max Nunn and his tragic story, which broke the hearts of even the toughest men here. The "hostile" take over of our forum data from fourmer.com when they took us off-line for weeks, and refused to sell our data to us, so I crawled the website and copied it post by post. Manually tracking the supporters by spreadsheet, The RedSquare logo contest Countless hours keeping the forum running, with failed hosting partners, software bugs while dealing with *some* members who felt it necessary to criticize the effort. Missing my kids last Halloween where they went together to migrate the forum during a quiet time. Seeing the amazing friendships grow here. Seeing the amazing in-fighting and petty bickering occur here. My first WHCC show and how Kate asked me to sign her RedSquare hat, I was just honored to meet her, and she wanted my signature? Meeting many of the members Knowing that TT is likely the smartest guy I know, and I work with some really amazing minds! Changing the theme of the forum and hearing the praise (and criticism from those who don't like it) Finally getting my snow plow (along with my 414-8) which is the REASON I joined this forum in the first place. Watching my kids box up RS hats, signing their names on the packing sheets and getting them ready for the mail. Tractor races with my daughter My death 4/8/2013 Signed copies of "Straight from the Horses Mouth" And the list goes on and on. It's been a short 10 years, and those 10 years have been the best and to be honest the worst of times. 99.9% of you are really amazing people, and I am so grateful to know you (even if we don't talk). To that .1%, while the number is low, the impact is high, and I do not appreciate being threatened, belittled or called all sorts of horrendous names which seem to amuse you all far too much. Happy 10th Anniversary RedSquare, you've grown from the "Karl and Mike" forum to the largest single brand garden tractor website in the world. It's been an amazing trip, and the baby looks like it's grown up now, which is happy and sad for me, but it is what it is, and I am so proud every time I see a RedSquare banner, sticker, mention in a magazine or hat on people, knowing that I had a little something to do with that. Finally to our members, thank you all for years of support. I have seen many leave, and many come, but you all have contributed so much to the site and the hobby over the past 10 years this place is for you!

You are on the right site!!! Someone with the answer will be along shortly, I have no doubt!

It's a working blower.No lift but everything else is good. Thanks for all the helpful posts and pm's. Great site.

Jeff, those Trac Gards I bought are Multi Mile brand ,I gave $80 for the pair total now they're $65 for a pair 7.50's then the tears for $155 so $220 total for all four really not a bad deal and they're 4 ply , now as for the seat I got mine from Northern Tool model V 818 high back basically same as my anniversary 520 O.E. but vinyl is softer on sale now $79+ S/H ,Jeff.

Just became a SUPPORTER..! Well I feel Finally dragged it home and now trying to decide what to do with it. Definitely leaning towards parting it out or sell it all together, or keep it if the Wife say I can...lol. Idk yet. Like I said before got it all for $75. Working on the plow right now, but I did try to get the Clevis Hitch off, with no luck so far. After all that going to clean up the deck and make sure everything is lubed up " that's what she said." Well enjoy..!

No such thing as stubborn parts here , I own a Harris Steelworker torch , 3 welders , 12lb sledge hammer and a 30 ton hydraulic press - not to mention I'm a welder and a Laborer . 18yrs of dealing with Heavy Highway , Nuclear and Coal power plants , Pipeline and Boring will give you skills required to remove anything that is "stuck" . I also have access to an old school welder/shop next door , heavy equipment Operators and an assortment of large, heavy hydraulic equipment . Got a door that won't line up to seal on a Chevy pickup ? No problem - Side Boom Caterpillar with a good Operator and a lifting strap , while holding the truck down with a 90,000lb Excavator.....that door fits perfectly now , not a scratch . Same process with the bent tailgate...lol . Body repairs done at lunch time , during breaks - sure, why not ? I can fix anything... Oh, and a buddy that's an explosives expert with access to whatever he needs - just in case something really refuses to cooperate.... Sarge

Here is the one my friend had.

elliot ness You are definitely ready for that W word. looks good from here. Hope you get some seat time this year.

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