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Ok, so I must be cracking up. The old saying is you can't take it with you ( $ ). Anyway, while checking craigslist, and yes its dangerous, I came across this original 1 owner, garage kept from new B 80. So I write him on it. He shoots back some pics, tells me he guesses about 10 hours a year use. Last year he goes through the motor, that started with him doing a decarbon on it. Says it runs like a top. Then rattles off it comes with a plow, chains, rear attachment bracket and all the original manuals to. We all know I am a sucker for all the provenance, fancy word for books. So I say to me, you know I wouldn't mind a B 80. Why Not? He's asking 400 bucks for all, I offer 350, he says deal. And that's it, now I own a B 80. All I have to do it get it. Haha Enjoy the pics, point out the flaws, don't stab me to deep. Glenn Oh, can anyone tell me why some pics are Sideways? It puts a damper on the post.

Picked up this 58 RJ today! It has the shower head and the original heat shield and reel mower belt guard. Came with a deck, a tub cart, and a snowplow. Will get better pics later!

Last year my grandpa passed away and he was a big part of my life growing up. The only tractors I remember him ever having was international letter series tractors, ford tractors, and cub cadets. I have a cub cadet 106 and several other brands but wheel horse is becoming my favorite. When we were going thru things in his shop the other day dad found a manual for a wheel horse and gave it to me. It's a manual for 633,653 and 753, I asked dad did he ever have a wheel horse and he said yes but it was many years ago. Here's the really cool part he had circled the model number as a 653 and wrote the serial # of the tractor on the front. So here's the long shot does anybody have a 653 with the serial # 38815 it's probably went to a junk pile a long time ago but it never hurts to try.

There was a member here who became disenchanted with RedSquare and started his own forum. Some members left with him, and other joined but kept their main focus here. After nearly two years, that forum has about 250 members, whereas RedSquare at last count has 14,765. However, the more forums there are that promote the Wheel Horse hobby, the better it is for all of us. If someone wants to start another forum, I have no problem with that and say more power to them. But it always seems that no matter where you go on the internet searching for Wheel Horse info, more times than not, you will be directed back to RedSquare.

My Grandson, Clayton, plays baseball on a 15U traveling tournament team that has done very well providing some great entertainment for his family. Over the past 5 years, we have played in international tournaments in NY, Del, SC, Va., and Ky. This weekend we played in a 17 team 16U tournament in Pottstown, Pa. finishing with 3 wins and a loss in the semifinal game. The highlight of this tournament was our third game win against the Philadelphia team that played in the 2014 Little League World Series semifinal game at Williamsport, Pa. You may remember this team and their ACE pitcher...Ms Mo'ne Davis. The only female to pitch in a championship LLWS game.

When I was over at Jeff's (Wildside) place yesterday morning swapping horses, I took these two pictures of his C-160 Custom build. It's a great looking machine and Jeff did a great job on it. He'll probably be by later with his comments on it and can answer any questions anyone may have about it. I do know he's doing the deck also. One thing I learned over the years, that you meet some of the greatest guys when garden tractors are involved, regardless of brand. I have a good friend who is also close by who has over 20 Cub Cadets and 4 Power Kings, not to mentioned a nice Farmall Super A.

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Just as I rolled up to the garage with the C-120 my oldest son drove in and snapped a picture. Did get the K301 removed today and ready for the M12 Magnum to go in it's place. A little switch-a-roo while I have the K301 rebuilt.

I've seen other forums and have looked them over but have not joined any of them. Red Square is well run, well moderated, a wealth of knowledge is available from the files section and the outstanding members here. I don't have the facts but I'd guess this forum is larger than all the others combined and has much more activity. There's absolutely nothing wrong with joining other forums but personally I see no need to.

Hey I've got my grandads old 518h I want to do a full restore but I need a deck and someone that knows how to put it on lol,......first post,first horse

Most members probably recognize me for the 5xi tractors but I do have a few other Wheel Horse tractors, including my second favorite, the Blackhoods. I worked two of my three today. The C-145 came back from just sitting since I broke my ankle in June 2015. I was using it in the beginning of grass season while I prepped the 523Dxi ffor a trip to the Big Show. It never was stored properly but yesterday was a rainy day so I figured I would play around and see where I got to with it. Put a fresh battery in, it had spark, so I tried putting gas in it. Lets say gas flowed through the tank. It seems the mice were at this tractor, as well as my C-105, as gas came flowing out from around the valve. Called my local Wheel Horse (Toro) guy and he had two valves and grommets in stock. Using some new gas line I had, I re-ran the fresh line and added a fuel filter in-line while I was at it. Poured gas in the tank and second crank, it starts! Speaks well of Kohler K-series, Marvel Mystery Oil, and Stabil Marine additive. Not bad for sitting under my carport for 16 months unused! It needs a bath - really bad. After cutting the lawn, I needed to put down some Fall fertilizer. The DC-105 came out to do the honors with the spreader in tow. Its the perfect tractor as the torque available with the diesel never slows it down climbing my embankments. Plus it does have positive lubrication, unlike the K-Series, so I don't have to worry about starving it. A nice fun day for seat time!

As this will be a temporary swap, if you want to save the cost of a new ignition switch you could put a wire nut on the wire that went to the coil and use a cheap toggle switch to ground the magneto to shut it off. Be aware that the PTO/seat switch will not shut it down for you with this set-up.

Lookin good Tigman.When you get that 301 done it will outlast your grandkids.Thats one tough engine.JAinVA

Not a restoration business but I took a business leap about 2 years ago now. It took me 9-10 months to get all my investment money paid back (to the personal account) and now the business can support itself for upgrades/maintenance. I have a small metal fabrication business. Steep learning curve since I didn't go to school for machining or manufacturing. I mostly do small projects for individuals that bigger shops won't touch or want too much money to do. I try to keep costs low (no building rent, own equipment outright) to build relationships with people so they tell their friends and come back. Unless what someone wants is crazy complicated, I do most of it while people wait. I also don't take on any long term projects for people. It helps I'm an evening/weekend place since it's not my primary source of income so people stop by after work or on weekends.

Here are some pics of it. It was ABSOLUTELY FILTHY!!! Must have been 30 years of dust on it. I gave it a bath and it looks much better. The first things I'll do is get rid of the horns, antenna, extra battery, and radio cassette player. Then I'll see if I can get it running. Needs tires to say the least. So is it a 701?

Took a little drive a couple towns away yesterday and looked at this D180.I wasn't 100% sure I was going to buy it.That is,until I saw the steering wheel spinner on it( last pic ).That spinner closed the deal.I had to have it.Anyone close by have a snow plow that will fit a D series? I might put this D into snow plow duty.Enjoy the pics.

That's funny and a lot of us know why!

One thing I stress to my wife when she passes a trailer on the interstate is to get around it as quickly as possible.I always try to minimize time spent next to any type of trailer.A lost wheel,blown tire or bad bearing can make any trailer a handful.Best not to be next to one when it happens.JAinVA

is the best one hands down IMHO.

A 30-pound meteorite strikes a parked car in New York. It penetrated the car leaving a small crater underneath. On this day in 1992, 18-year-old Michelle Knapp is watching television in her parents’ living room in Peekskill, New York when she hears a thunderous crash in the driveway. Alarmed, Knapp ran outside to investigate. What she found was startling, to say the least: a sizeable hole in the rear end of her car, an orange 1980 Chevy Malibu; a matching hole in the gravel driveway underneath the car; and in the hole, the culprit: what looked like an ordinary, bowling-ball–sized rock. It was extremely heavy for its size (it weighed about 28 pounds), shaped like a football and warm to the touch; also, it smelled vaguely of rotten eggs. The next day, a curator from the American Museum of Natural History in New York City confirmed that the object was a genuine meteorite. Scientists estimate that the Earth is bombarded with about 100 pounds of meteoric material every day. Meteorites are pieces of asteroids and other debris made of rock, iron and nickel that have been orbiting in space for billions of years. Some are as tiny as dust particles and others are as huge as 10 miles across; most, however, are about the size of a baseball. Astronomers and other people who pay attention to the night sky can easily see them: When a meteorite enters the Earth’s atmosphere, it blazes across the sky like a fireball. (What most people call “shooting stars” are actually meteorites.) Thousands of people in the eastern United States saw the greenish Peekskill meteorite as it streaked toward Knapp’s Malibu and many heard it too: one witness said that it crackled like a very loud sparkler. Scientists have determined that it came from the inner edge of the main asteroid belt in space, between Jupiter and Mars.

Had couple of hours to kill today so I decided to work in garage on parts for my project. I took the hand crank I got with my snow thrower (not one made for it) and the 4' x 3/8" rod I bought to make the crank I needed and bent rod to simulate bends on 1 I got with it. Once I had the bends done I proceeded to drill the two holes, one for the the end that attaches to the u-joint and one that plastic handle rides on on operator end. After installing roll pin for plastic handle I ground it down to fit inside handle like original tested it and mounted retaining cap to end. It hit me some time in last couple of weeks that the hole on crank support may be so over sized as to make crank sloppy when turning. With this in back of my mind it came to me that one of the old hinge pin bushings from when I changed doors on my truck over the summer may help so put one in support. Its only held in by the press fit so if I find I need the slop it will pop right out if I find it works well I'll use solder to keep it more permanently secured till it wears out and i need to replace it. I also measured and drew up shaft I need to turn to add to crank support for the Tach-A-Matic to lock on it. Will still need to make a plate to attach to that shaft to keep crank support stable. That will have to wait till next time I pull mower deck to look over what plate on it measures out to and figure out how I actually want to make mine so it as stable as I can make it when mounted.

We have a term for tractors picked up on the East coast near the ocean: Sea Horses.

Sounds like a very cool idea! Know nothing about them (In other words - not an endorsement), but I stumbled on this link a while back - sounds very similar to what you are thinking of doing... wheelhorsestables.com I would have used someone like you locally on several occasions, as I am not that good with mechanical stuff. That's why I love this forum - So many knowledgeable people who will take the time to walk you through stuff.

I posted a bit ago about the 2 tractors that followed me home. I finally had the time to start the tear down and rebuild on the 417. From what I can it is an 86 with a KT17 series 2. All the tags were missing off both the tractor and the engine. I pulled the front valve cover off, and cannot feel any major wear on the engine which is surprising considering it has over 1300 hours on it. My plan is to do all new gaskets and rings before it is all said and done just for the piece of mind. I picked this thing up from the coast in North Carolina so it is rusty not surface rust, but rusty. Luckily there are no holes in any of the sheet metal that I have found yet. Time will tell though since I still have to get into the sanding phase. Right now all I have done is tear it down, and because of the storm plus the peanut butter I found in the transmission I decided to tear it down and rebuild it first. I have new seals and axle bearings in the mail, and the transmission cleaned up. My parts washer almost needs a swap out of diesel again. I changed it right before I started on this.

A Kohler sign! Not exactly wheel horse but hey they do power them! Scored this 3ft metal sign at antique mall down here. I was very happy!! Just gotta hang it tomorrow...

Well, a few people have seen the Wheel Horses that I've restored. They ask if I'ld do the same for their old tractor. My reply is "You couldn't afford me!" The ones I've done and then sold I figure I made $1 an hour! So to charge a customer $10 an hour they would totally flip out! I know one took me 80 hours. But I always offer to help them if they take on the task. So far I haven't had to help anyone .... I guess they figure it's too much work. I do repair the neighbor's tractors. He has a Christmas tree farm and is very rough on equipment. He thinks water is a gasoline additive! And that mower blades will hack up tree stumps. This summer I had to fix his Arctic Cat 4x4, Wheel Horse 314-8, WH WorkHorse, Husqvarna lawn tractor, Cub Cadet garden tractor, 12' trailer, Dodge truck and tree baler. I charge him $10 an hour. Little things are repaired free. So you could end up with too much work .... more work than your spare time will allow.

I have thought of something similar. Folks just don't seem willing to pay the price to make restoration even break even much less profitable. Maybe a repair, welding, blast and powdercoat business where one could work on their own full restoration in between smaller more profitable jobs. Maybe tied to a breakfast coffee/tea/soda/icream shop or something for old timers to sit and spend enough to pay for the electric:-)

A "fish-tailing" trailer is often caused by the tongue weight being too low. Move the weight to the front. Demo I pull a travel trailer and look at how others are set up, needless to say, I keep as much distance as possible from any towed vehicle.

to the The 10 would fit in the C-81,but my recommendation would be to keep them both and use the C-81 as a primary mower in the summer and possibly a snow plow in the winter. The extra HP of the C=101 would be better for tilling and as a back up mower in the summer and for snow blowing in the winter. The tillers are not the easiest implement to install and remove. IMO, it is best to have a tractor for every implement. These 30-50 year old tractors are very dependable, but it is best to have a back up tractor for every task...especially snow removal.

Good old sodium chloride was bad enough on the vehicles underbody but since everyone has switched to the more environmentally friendly calcium chloride things have gotten worse.In the north east brake lines don't last any time at all.You might crash into a tree from brake failure but at least the tree will be there because your'e saving the planet.JMHO,JAinVA

I'm a month into the project, been a lot of work taking parts down to bare metal. Still got a ways to go, I'm guessing another month or so before I'm done if all goes as planned. "Maybe two" depending on the weather, $$$ and temperatures. Still got some parts painted & ready to install, lots of parts left to paint and detail including outer sheet metal and motor. Today was the first day in a month since it has seen wheels. Wiring harness has some issues I gotta try to sort out. Wanted to share my progress, slow going but steady. My Wife has been great pitching in sanding, priming, painting or whatever to help out.

The contents on the trailer may be changing later this morning. Well, one of them will.

I'm 100% new to WH tractors so take this comment with that in mind. I honestly typed "What is a Wheel Horse tractor?" into Google search and this site was at the top of the list. So I signed up. I've not had to go anywhere else as I've found and been offered all the information I need here. Heck I even got a PM from one of the members here with his personal phone number so I could call him with questions. Who does that now days? This was my first, and will be my only, stop for Wheel Horse information. Richard.

Thanks! Always keeping my eye out for anything wheel horse or related! Not bad for $24 I think

Hi everyone this is budman2 a newbe on here, I have a question that I am sure someone knows the answer! I have been try to paint my 1995 312-8 wheelhorse wheels with the original or close to it color of paint, they look to be light gray but I have tried two different colors so far and can't seem to duplicate the color! tried smoke gray and metallic rustolem, the smoke gray is way too dark and the metalic is like diamonds! any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance, budman2.

I have a deck like that one .... looks like a rear discharge deck with a chute added to the side. What's up with that?

I just got a 6 x 10 Lone Wolf of CL for $900. I wanted a trailer to hold 3 tractors sideways. I can do it with some jostling. I was looking at a 6.5 X 10 Big Tex which was nice. Would have been perfect but almost another $600. I didn't want longer due to limited space. It came with 6 D rings and I added 4 more. P.O. lathered some TSC Black Implement paint on it and got some on the wood floor but so what. I'm not going to a trailer show. I just got done putting some Thompsons on the floor and coated the underneath with truck bed liner spray.

I have a Forest River 5 x 8 steel cargo trailer with treated lumber bottom and a drop ramp. Works great for one WH tractor. I got 15" wheels as an option - I think well worth the added $50. My only issue - I wish it had solid sides - not just 2' high rails. I think I will be adding sides shortly. The mesh bottoms I have seen seem to be kinda flimsy and cheap - big box if you know what I mean...

Nice looking machine. All those extras on that make it seem like it was a daily driver for someone. But it cleaned up nice! By the way, yes it is a 701

Since trailering may not be a big part of the interest on this forum, many might not know that 100 percent of ST (special trailer) tires are made in China or Thailand now. They are mostly junk. I replace them with LT (light truck) tires.

You know, now I have to find one. Nice score. Glenn

Don't forget road and weather conditions were pretty bad if not at time horrendous. Event was almost a rain out. As I was driving into area the night before I hit severe winds and downpour. I don't know who was driving or What they encountered but I will give the benefit of the doubt.

Try this one. http://www.mytractorforum.com/13-toro-wheelhorse-forum/ and http://myoldmachine.com/

I often worry about when I'm trailering and some idiot who thinks he's in a hurry and tailgates me. I can imagine if something does happen and something does come off my truck or trailer (my responsibility, btw), he will be pretty upset. It's best to leave plenty of space between you and truck/trailer hauling cargo if you're behind one. I also worry about someone on the interstate not paying attention and not noticing or recognizing I do have a trailer and try to occupy the same spot in my lane as my trailer. Can you say texting while driving? Accidents to happen even when we're ultra careful. Stay safe out there.

This is why I always check and double check all of my straps when I'm transporting anything on my trailer. Plus most states make it illegal to transport anything on a trailer unless it's secure with binding of some type, straps, chains, etc. Still straps can come loose, so it's a good idea to stop and check your load from time to time, especially over a longer distance. And if you back your tractor onto a trailer or truck, it would be wise to strap down the hood. I've seen a few that were back on and the hoods popped up going down the highway. I've passed a couple that way and either the hood was popped open, and in one case, the I passed the hood along side the road and then the stopped truck and trailer with a hoodless tractor.

160,000 on my 04 tundra, no rust, but down here we put salt in our BBQ rub and on the rim of our margarita glass, not on the roads..

As a retired GM tech with 40 years experience I must say I am not in the least bit surprised . Also your brake lines along the frame by the gas tank will rust through and your engine has more than likely been noisy on cold start since new and probably uses at least a quart of oil every thousand miles. Quality has been abandoned and prices have skyrocketed in the last 20 years. Talk to the service manager and ask to have a meeting with the zone rep. to discuss any possible solutions to the problems that you are encountering. Sometimes they actually will provide repairs out of warranty, but of course the squeaky wheel gets the grease and you have to make a stand and let them know how dissatisfied you are with their product and in the future you will buy another brand. I would give it a shot If I were you. I have seen it happen in person many times.

I have found over the past 55 years that you don't need to spell check, there are more that enough people out there who will do it for you .