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A teaser pic of my son sitting on our new tractor. I'll post more later. Eating at Popeye's before heading back home. Great morning! And that's my dad standing beside him.

Just a thought. Would it be possible to put on the banner that the support member was also a member of the WHCC? I'm sure the show organizers would appreciate it.

My in law went to a revival event at Brooklands the other day, and she brought this back. It was a table decoration but available to buy. I think its kinda funky.

Tommy, it was very nice meeting you and your family as well. Guys, if you get a chance to talk with Tommy, you'll see he's just like the rest of the horse heads I've met - truly nice and knowledgable. He even gave my son a wheel horse collector's club hat, key chain, and lawn and garden magazine. We had a great trip and look forward to playing with our new machine. Yup, Emory has already laid claim to it, but I'm still the primary stakeholder in this one. He kept saying that he had a great day!! Below are a few pics of the machine, Tommy, my dad, and son and one pic of Dad, Emory, and some goofy looking guy with a goatee . I've also put in a pic of a set of original wheel horse tires and rims for the back - plenty of cracks and checks, but still very nice. Both of the other rear sets are Carlisle and in pretty nice shape. Oh yeah, I took the hoods off to keep wind from grabbing them on interstate. Gotta go clean out a spot in the basement for the new girl.

Here is your parts list https://www.partstree.com/parts/kohler-engines/engines-horizontal/k341-71179-kohler-k341-engine-k-series-service-engine-16hp-11-9kw-specs-71105-71384/ The 2nd ignition page shows the stator 237878-S as being 15/20 amp. Don't know how they get that but suspect it is the 15 amp as we know it and 20 amp if they stretch it like everything else. There was never a 20 amp regulator but there was a 25 amp. I'd go with the 15 amp. Garry

My 12 year old Lab mix prefers the cold....can't get enough of the snow!

Here's some pictures of when a storm blew this red oak tree over on the wheelhorse. I cut the tree off the tractor and used it to pull the tree to the firewood pile. "Revenge is sweet" saith the Wheelhorse.

How's this for evidence? I-75.

Nice choice. I'm running the same tires (filled with ww fluid and weights) on my 520H. They are great for mowing on my hilly terrain. My first time using in snow was this last 30" storm we had in Md. Had to use chains and my son on the rear to clean up that one.

Besides the gold lettering , gold badge in front and the gray plastic hub cap which I don't have what else was special about Anniversary 520 H? What spark plugs do these P220Gs like the best? One other question for now, I'm sure I will have more... Is straight 30w engine oil the best for these? I will only be using her in the summer. The Hydro oil looks clean but I am going to change it and I will put 10w30 in it. Here is a few more pictures.

Based on very favorable performance of replacement LED marker lights for the rear lights on my 314, I decided to buy replacement bulbs for the headlights and tail lights on my 5xi and the tail lights on my 416H. The xi headlamp replacements are for an 1159 bulb and the tail lights for the xi and the 416 are 194. I bought the most powerful ones available within a reasonable cost. Headlamp replacement in the xi was a snap. Tail lights were a bit of a problem as LEDs only work in one polarity and of course those small 194 bulbs are not marked. Anyway with a couple of tries, I got them installed and working. The bad: I was very disappointed with the intensity, but at least they worked. Install on the 416 was not as positive. The receptacle design is cheesy and I never could get the 194 LED bulbs to consistently make electrical contact. More disappointment. I had to use the 5xi yesterday to move the wet slop that fell in MA. Midway through, one of the front headlights quit. As I was putting the machine away, I checked the tail lights. One was out and one was flickering. Today, I pulled out the tail light that was not working and I found that there was a thermal runaway condition due to poor connection between the bulb and the electrical socket. The ugly: the socket is burned a bit and the LED bulb was toast. I will have to get a replacement for that socket. I pulled out the other tail light, the flickering one, and there was evidence of a start of a similar thermal runaway. Replaced that tail light with an incandescent bulb and pulled the 1159 LED head lights and replaced them with incandescent as well. All three work. So my plan now is to get a set of red LED marker lights for the 416H (these are stand alone units and for $5 they offer superior intensity and they mount up to the original WH mounting holes-however, you have to drill a new hole for the power lead. It does not match up) As for anyone else who has gone down this road of replacing bulbs only, I suggest that you give a look to make sure your receptacles are not getting cooked as mine were.

Well, I finally got some time to play around in the shop. The storage rack works, looks like I will have room for 4 to 5 decks. So far I have 2 shelves built, and decks lifted and stored. The rack is solid as a rock. I was planning on bolting it to the floor, but I don't think I need to. 60" and 52" xi decks loaded.

The paint and body work on this are a definite twenty footer, but it wasn't built to win shows, just to have fun with.

It was nice meeting you and your family today, hope you get to drive Emorys new GT-14

Well a hound's gotta keep warm!

I'm not an expert but I believe one of the electrical swami's will chime in hopefully. I believe the Kseries were 15 am systems so a 15 amp rectifier with three tabs AC -, B+, and AC + is what you need. I think if it has those three, it does not necessarily matter how they are configured. I went with with replacement that was new manufacture and 3 in a row rather than the configuration with the one stacked over the other two tabs for easier access when doing the re-wire. I hope an expert chimes in though and have "followed" this thread to get info myself.

Being it's fabricated in the UK... a wrap in the Union Jack might be kinda cool.

I've been working from home for the past 14 years. When the kids were younger it afforded me the time to be with them, get them from school, watch them play in the summer. They are older now, they're still at home but don't need to be watched like they did. I enjoy working from home for the most part, about 60% of my day requires interaction with others leaving the rest to be flexible. For me my job is based on the completion of my tasks, not time based so I have more personal flexibility at home.

Well I'm off to see a man about a ! Pics to come

Nightmares do come true on occasion!

Sad, but probably true Jim. Pay attention to the dates of these threads that get brought back up. I know I got caught a couple of times. Felt like Arron Rodgers when they lost to the Bears this year..

Got 1 set of RJ side plates ready for paint today. I wanted to install all the bearings before paint for obvious reasons. I had a few burrs where I had to tap out the old bearings. I hit these with a punch and tapped down anything sticking up. I also filed any burrs on the side plate where the bolt holes are and used a hammer on each side to smooth any bumps. In the above picture, something got caught under the differential gear for a while. You can see the worn circle. Cleaned up and ready for the bearings. I'm not sure if I have to do anything about the wallowed out bolt holes yet. They may be OK...this sits on the gasket. If anything, I would fill with JB weld and use plastic wrap for where I did not want it to stick. ??? OK...there are 4 S8K open bearings, and 3 NICE 412-35 closed bearings that go in these side plates. The difference between open and closed bearings is the machining of the bearings themselves. I would call the open bearings on the sloppy side, and the closed bearings more refined and tighter. These bearings have the same ID 3/4" and OD 1 5/8" , but the thickness is different...S8K is 5/16" and the NICE 412-35 is 3/8". When you look at this picture...the left side plate shows where the differential carriage rides at the top...moving down shows an S8K where the brake shaft goes through...below that is the closed bearing that holds the cluster gear shaft...then at the bottom, the open bearing that holds the spline shaft with the fork gears. The plate on the right is a mirror image. The top is the differential carriage, below is the closed bearing that holds the large end of the mushroom gear...right and below that is the other closed bearing for the cluster gear shaft...and then you have the 2 open bearings that hold the input shaft.. I know...that is a lot to chew on, but the picture shows the correct placement of the bearings. Many times, I have opened a case to find different configurations. To seat the bearings, I tap them 1st with a ball peen to start them and then work my way around with the hammer until they are flush with the rim of the plate. You do not want to seat them all the way down, as they will bind...flush is what you want. The bearing should turn freely when seated. ] Now comes the bronze axle bearings. These come in the correct length...the differential carriage ones need to be cut to length first. I take a piece of 2 x 4 to tap in the bronze. Cleaning out the axle housing and a little oil on the outside of the bearing goes a long way. Get the bronze bearing down to flush with the 2 x 4 and then use an arbor to tap the bearing down the last 1/8" to accept the SKF 9815 seal. We are going to double seal these axles. A quick shot of the bronze bearings (both sizes) and then the outside of the RJ plates are primed. Paint was still wet.

Hey all, sorry for the lack of posting but things have been a bit ... well as Im sure you can guess, crazy. But here is where we stand currently ... The insurance company has settled with me, mostly. There are some issues in their estimate for things like removal of the old structure ... and replacing the foundation... but other than that I think we have it just about settled. Should be wrapping things up in the next 7-10 days .... then comes the tedious process of replacing everything and them issuing the checks to cover the difference between the Actual replacement cost, and the depreciated value they assigned all the possessions... I'm focusing on the warmer months, a new home, and the Big Show (I have a few things I want to bring home with me this year Hopefully!)

Just... avoid the pair that looks like this.

Agree. I paid $1,500 for this 1982 SK-486. I just laugh when I walk through Home Depot and Lowes ... A 30 year old Wheel Horse is worth three times what is being sold in these stores and can be had for half the price.

I’m not sure what to do here, so I’m just throwing a general question out to the group to give me something to chew on… I have been threatening for the past few years to do a major housecleaning and thinning of the herd. As far as I know, I’m not sick. I don’t have money issues. No significant life changes. I’ve just lost interest in this hobby and know I will never get around to the scores of projects that lie ahead of me. I also find myself wanting for time, and when I do carve out some recreational free time I seldom spend it putzing with tractors….I’d rather be fishing or making sawdust. My kids also have no interest in this red stuff. My daughter is a pretty typical 9 year old girl. My 11 year old son has Autism. Neither could care less if they ever touch a Wheel Horse. I think my daughter actually prefers green tractors anyway (where did I go wrong?). Stage set, here’s my problem… I want to get rid of about 40 Wheel Horses. Yes, FORTY. I plan to keep the really old ones (Lever, Senior, RJ’s) and may keep the 5xi’s, but really everything else has no real meaning for me anymore. Almost everything I have is or was in decent running condition when parked in the shed. Some are started and exercised regularly, others have had their fuel tanks drained and have been sitting for a decade. There are a couple of genuine pieces of junk here, but most of my stuff is/was good and nothing ever sat outside in the weather. This weekend I pulled a bunch of them out of the barn and fired them up. Few of them made me smile. I never was enthusiastic about restoration, so most all of my tractors are in their original clothes. I just like them better that way. All but a few were good, solid, machines. There are a couple restored ones. I know a fair amount about each of them, but there are a couple that I neglected to record detail. Like most people with a job and kids, freetime isn’t in abundance with my schedule. The financially smart thing to do would be to get each one running in top condition and then eBay it. I don’t see myself doing that in any reasonable amount of time, and frankly I don’t care enough to make the effort. What I’ve been thinking is maybe hosting a day here in Illinois where everything is for sale – I’d advertise prices and give a few pictures in advance – and just have guys come to shoot the breeze, kick the tires, and haul off a bargain or two. I can’t give them away, but I’m realistic in that tractor prices are pretty depressed these days after their peaks about 8 years ago. And I like to wheel and deal. Probably wouldn’t be open to trades unless they involve Lund boats, Evinrude E-tecs, or Sawstop table saws. I realize this wouldn’t clear the barn, but it would probably make a dent. I don’t often haul my stuff to shows so few people probably have a feel for what I have sitting here. My WH collection ranges from 1946 to 2000, so there is a lot of stuff. Other than having three C-195’s and a couple of 300-series tractors, there really isn’t much duplicated. As for special models; there is a 701, 953, D-250, GT-2500, a 520-8, 867, others. I’m not sure what to do with the 420-LSE. And a wide array of implements that took decades to accumulate. Hitches, Mighty Mac, Cabs, blades, mowers, cultivators, PTO units, 1950’s carts, early 60’s fertilizer spreaders…lots of stuff. Even have some weird things like Wheel Horse walk behind mowers and a walk behind Wheel Horse Royale reel mower. Trailblazer snow blower…on and on. I also have several signs and lots of paper and literature. Several engines, gas and diesel. I can’t haul this stuff to the show. It would take a semi load (or two) and I just don’t see the point in dragging stuff 800 miles to get pennies since we all tend to be cheapskates on large items when in Arendtsville. Plus, if I make it to the show again I’d rather spend time walking around and talking to the friends I made since first visiting the show in 2000. I also don’t want to have an auction to the general public, yet. You guys have interest in this stuff whereas they’re just lawnmowers to the great unwashed masses. Everything (almost) is in Alton, IL which is just north of St. Louis, MO. There are a couple other RS members local to me who you’d like to visit to while here. The location is certainly not convenient to most of you, but we’re close to interstates and St. Louis has quite a bit to offer for families and you can really cover some ground on the interstates these days. Some of our attractions are world-class and are FREE; like the Zoo, the Science Center, the many museums, and even the AB Brewery. We finally got rid of the Rams this year too. Come have a pork steak, toasted ravioli, and gooey butter cake. Gas may very well be cheap for the bulk of this election year, it was $1.40 this morning. So, my question is: Would there be much interest from members here to make a trip to the glorious Midwest sometime this spring, summer, or fall? I’m not sure how I’d accommodate hordes of trucks and trailers and weather in this area is always subject to complete randomness and oppressive humidity, but I’d like to know if there is any genuine interest. I could eBay the whole shooting match, but that’s a ton of work. And I imagine the more work I put into this the less willing I would be to let it all go down the road. I don’t have a master list or anything planned yet, so I’d prefer to keep whatever discussion and comments you may have public on this thread. There are a few guys who in year’s past told me “if you ever sell that, be sure to let me know…” so I need to contact those guys once I figure out what I’m doing. Comments welcome. Steve

I have a 1969 GT 14, 1-7741, which originally had a K321 14 hp engine that gave up the ghost. That was replaced with a K341 16 hp engine. The original rectifier was used when the new K341 was installed and performed fine. I am now in need of a new rectifier because of broken male spade. How can I identify the proper rectifier to match with a Kohler engine (in my case for a K321 or a K341), and what resource can I research to obtain that information? Regards, Steve

March 1969 Wheel Horse advertisement. GT-14 $1,495 with free mower deck. That's about $8,900 in today's dollars. These were premium machines in their day.

looks brand new,i would listen to the guys about ventimg the rear cylinder

My wife and I have gone by that sign a few dozen times and always ask ourselves "why would anyone choose that name?" I guess it keeps out the riffraff! Thanks for sharing those videos, I love my GT-14 too.

Same tractor here... you just picked up?

welcome to Red Square . We always want pictures, some members including myself can't read tooo good so we follow along by pictures.

That tractor looks even better in light of day with 3 generations of family surrounding it!

Thanks Russ

For Hot Rod cars I like the subtle paint jobs but Why Not is a unique machine that deserves some attention. My vote is to go with "In Your Face" , loud and proud so everyone can tell what it's about from a distance. It's not like you need to run a sleeper for phishing tractor races so advertising fast and mean will let everyone know it's something special.

Some good news there KY...hope to finally meet at the show.

I still have the original purchase receipt from when Grandpa bought my 856 new. I'll dig it out and post it up. It was a lot back then......But then again, it still works!

Looking like a major nest rehab project has started this morning.

Interesting. How about a shot of the two 3559 shaft/gears? Per the service notes there should be a difference. Lane, the input pulley(s) look like two separate pulleys and not one double. How is the outer pulley held on? I wonder what they had in mind with that.

I'm just going to post these pictures of these 2 differentials and let you guys look at these and chew on them for a little while. One is the 2 piece and one is the 1 piece.

Mine looks great, Terry! Except for one thing. Can you take out the second "i" between the "s" and the "n"... My username is "cruisnblue48". Thanks

Ok I picked up a FOURTH TRANSMISSION today from a friend in Indiana. Axles turn on hubs but the shifter is locked in place. I heated this up in the garage today and opened up fill plug and seat spring bolts but no fluids came out of the transmission. I am taking this up to Steve on Tuesday to see if we may have some better spider gears out of the differential in this Suburban transmission (same as RJ inside but a few changes outside) We need three good spider gears and one axle gear to complete three good transmissions. Interestingly the Code on the top of this transmission case is K11%0 which I think translates to November 11, 1960 as date of production. Notice the two matching drive pulleys on the outside of the case.

Wishfull thinking Lane...the only way we could ever hope to see these bearings again is if an OEM decides to use them somehow in a mass production schedule. Not likely to happen unless Steve taps his ruby slippers ..I mean wooden shoes...together three times and even then it's a poke and a hope. It would take alot more than us handfull of addicts to get anybody to start producing them. Sorry but true....bean counters rule.......that was a bad rhyme....

Fuel line and choke cable is done , just need to paint the choke braket

I'm going to stick with the chrome caps, they look better.

Here are a couple. I know it sounds silly, but pushing snow with my son's suburban has got me wanting a bigger, heavier horse of my own. Brings back memories of riding a charger v8 with my grandfather. Plus my mom bought the Burban for my son and we lost her in October and I really don't want to tear it up!

I got the frame plate mounted tonight and the motor set on , progress is slow but still moving forward