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A lot of the guys on red square have handles with some kind of horse reference. Their wheel horses are herds, stallions, etc. When I joined, with thousands of members, I didn`t want to use a name someone else had. I figured there wasn`t much chance of anyone else calling themselves horse poop. You might be surprised how many people have no Idea what road apples are. Besides, if it gives someone a chuckle, mission accomplished...

Just a quick hello to everyone. Brought my first Wheel Horse and was told to check out this group. I brought a 1996 520H and can't wait till nice weather when the grass starts growing.

Here is a picture of the 854 I restored for some inspiration.

Here is the tally so far. 16 support members going to the Big Show. Shooting for 50 support members this year. Also if for any reason you can not come please let me know by May31st. I am also working on some items to raffle off again this year so remember your number. We will have a wooden nickel with your number on it and when you pick up your banner we will put your nickel in the drawing pot so pick up your banner as early as possible after you arrive to be included in all the drawings. prizes and drawing times will be posted here when we figure it all out. If you are planning to go to the big show and are not yet a supporting member of the forum this would be a great time to consider becoming one.

Been there done that After getting hurt in 2012 I decided to thin out also. I've sold a bunch off still have around 25. I found it was easier to sell off slowly, first 20 I didn't even realize were gone. So far I've cleared half the barn and Marylou filled it right back up If a bunch wanted tractor picked up I would come out and visit with the 40 ft trailer.

I would make the trip for the right tractors at the right price no problem Brian

I am in a similar boat to you but I don't have that many tractors,only 10,but I know what you mean,will I ever get enough time to do all the things I want to in life,i love working on tractors but theres not enough time for so many,and you have a lot,i think you have a great idea to sell to people who appreciate wheelhorses,and maybe lots of them will get used and restored as they should,i lend out a few tractors here and there just so they get used a bit,i cant use then all,if I were in your shoes and got good responses from the members and community I would do as yyou are thinking

Not much progress but a lot of filling, sanding and metal pecking on the hood. I was looking back through my paperwork and trying to figure out just how many hours I did have in this project. Best I can figure it is about 180 hours. I also have built a media blast cabinet and acquired a plasma cutter, larger pulley puller, bearing puller and an e tank. Still need to buy a ring compressor, valve spring compressor, and valve lapping tools eventually. I ran across this picture that started this whole project. I think I need to change my member name to NOREGRETS. LOL Another picture towing it to the work shop from the front yard. The Raider 12 will be next when I have the 854 in working order.

I'm in this year, can't wait 'til June. Thank you Terry for all you do.

That looks great. The wife will love it hanging on the wall over our bed.

I’m not sure what to do here, so I’m just throwing a general question out to the group to give me something to chew on… I have been threatening for the past few years to do a major housecleaning and thinning of the herd. As far as I know, I’m not sick. I don’t have money issues. No significant life changes. I’ve just lost interest in this hobby and know I will never get around to the scores of projects that lie ahead of me. I also find myself wanting for time, and when I do carve out some recreational free time I seldom spend it putzing with tractors….I’d rather be fishing or making sawdust. My kids also have no interest in this red stuff. My daughter is a pretty typical 9 year old girl. My 11 year old son has Autism. Neither could care less if they ever touch a Wheel Horse. I think my daughter actually prefers green tractors anyway (where did I go wrong?). Stage set, here’s my problem… I want to get rid of about 40 Wheel Horses. Yes, FORTY. I plan to keep the really old ones (Lever, Senior, RJ’s) and may keep the 5xi’s, but really everything else has no real meaning for me anymore. Almost everything I have is or was in decent running condition when parked in the shed. Some are started and exercised regularly, others have had their fuel tanks drained and have been sitting for a decade. There are a couple of genuine pieces of junk here, but most of my stuff is/was good and nothing ever sat outside in the weather. This weekend I pulled a bunch of them out of the barn and fired them up. Few of them made me smile. I never was enthusiastic about restoration, so most all of my tractors are in their original clothes. I just like them better that way. All but a few were good, solid, machines. There are a couple restored ones. I know a fair amount about each of them, but there are a couple that I neglected to record detail. Like most people with a job and kids, freetime isn’t in abundance with my schedule. The financially smart thing to do would be to get each one running in top condition and then eBay it. I don’t see myself doing that in any reasonable amount of time, and frankly I don’t care enough to make the effort. What I’ve been thinking is maybe hosting a day here in Illinois where everything is for sale – I’d advertise prices and give a few pictures in advance – and just have guys come to shoot the breeze, kick the tires, and haul off a bargain or two. I can’t give them away, but I’m realistic in that tractor prices are pretty depressed these days after their peaks about 8 years ago. And I like to wheel and deal. Probably wouldn’t be open to trades unless they involve Lund boats, Evinrude E-tecs, or Sawstop table saws. I realize this wouldn’t clear the barn, but it would probably make a dent. I don’t often haul my stuff to shows so few people probably have a feel for what I have sitting here. My WH collection ranges from 1946 to 2000, so there is a lot of stuff. Other than having three C-195’s and a couple of 300-series tractors, there really isn’t much duplicated. As for special models; there is a 701, 953, D-250, GT-2500, a 520-8, 867, others. I’m not sure what to do with the 420-LSE. And a wide array of implements that took decades to accumulate. Hitches, Mighty Mac, Cabs, blades, mowers, cultivators, PTO units, 1950’s carts, early 60’s fertilizer spreaders…lots of stuff. Even have some weird things like Wheel Horse walk behind mowers and a walk behind Wheel Horse Royale reel mower. Trailblazer snow blower…on and on. I also have several signs and lots of paper and literature. Several engines, gas and diesel. I can’t haul this stuff to the show. It would take a semi load (or two) and I just don’t see the point in dragging stuff 800 miles to get pennies since we all tend to be cheapskates on large items when in Arendtsville. Plus, if I make it to the show again I’d rather spend time walking around and talking to the friends I made since first visiting the show in 2000. I also don’t want to have an auction to the general public, yet. You guys have interest in this stuff whereas they’re just lawnmowers to the great unwashed masses. Everything (almost) is in Alton, IL which is just north of St. Louis, MO. There are a couple other RS members local to me who you’d like to visit to while here. The location is certainly not convenient to most of you, but we’re close to interstates and St. Louis has quite a bit to offer for families and you can really cover some ground on the interstates these days. Some of our attractions are world-class and are FREE; like the Zoo, the Science Center, the many museums, and even the AB Brewery. We finally got rid of the Rams this year too. Come have a pork steak, toasted ravioli, and gooey butter cake. Gas may very well be cheap for the bulk of this election year, it was $1.40 this morning. So, my question is: Would there be much interest from members here to make a trip to the glorious Midwest sometime this spring, summer, or fall? I’m not sure how I’d accommodate hordes of trucks and trailers and weather in this area is always subject to complete randomness and oppressive humidity, but I’d like to know if there is any genuine interest. I could eBay the whole shooting match, but that’s a ton of work. And I imagine the more work I put into this the less willing I would be to let it all go down the road. I don’t have a master list or anything planned yet, so I’d prefer to keep whatever discussion and comments you may have public on this thread. There are a few guys who in year’s past told me “if you ever sell that, be sure to let me know…” so I need to contact those guys once I figure out what I’m doing. Comments welcome. Steve

I feel your pain, I have a 1946 Lincoln Continental Cabriolet Street Rod project that I purchased about 20 years ago and realize it will probably never be built by me, but I am not yet willing to let go of it I would love to see the collection, but the eleven hour trip (each way) is a deal beaker. If Duane was willing to bring a load of pre-purchased and or implements to the big show I know we could all pitch in to make the trip worthwhile to him.

extra inspiration Glenn

...Meet and Greet...Seems like this would be your best bet - one and done with folks rsvp'ing so you know what to expect. I would think your WH / RS crowd would not only be the most interested, but more importantly the most respectful of you, your herd and your time... All the best to you.

Times change, people change, interests change so we all understand your dillemma. . I don't know if this idea would apply to you but I think a good way to thin a herd would be to have a meet & greet. No one here would expect you to give it away but at least this way you would know that your collection is going to folks that still have a passion for our hobby/addiction. CL or ebay would be time consuming and you would would have to deal with people that are alot more nuts than us here. Put a set price on each piece you want to see go (maybe a little discount for members here.. ) and wheel and deal from there. If a guy told you he is interested if you ever sell ( even if it was ages ago and you can't remember who it was) he gets first dibs. I say put out feelers to see who might be interested. I know I would be. A good way to start is you would have to have a list of what you are going to let go and what it is worth and post it here. You should have that anyway for estate planning.

I think you are doing very well explaining your questions with the translations, however if you ever feel you are not getting something across, feel free to PM me or even just post it in Spanish. I will help you with the translation. We are neighbors and will understand each other.

Quite a machine. Note the Chrysler rear, drum brakes, right and left brake pedals. Picked it up with 1966 original owners manual, original sales receipt, snow plow and mowing deck. Only stopped to take a peek-a-boo at the Wheel Horse the owner was mowing with. He said, "Want a Pennsylvania?" Looked at the tractor, struck a deal, came back with the pickup, Grandson and I were all smiles. I believe manufactured by the now out-of-business oldest mower company in the USA which started in 1870.

It was a sad day.

Here's another type of tractor, a Pennsylvania Panzer. Found in a barn, the original owner passed on. His son didn't want it, my Grandson did!

I try to buy only the best when I purchase tools. My Mac tool box is full of Snap-on, Mac, Blackhawk and some vintage Craftsman. I haven't made any large tool purchases in almost 20 yrs. because I've had what I need but I know every tool I own was made in the good Old U.S. of A. Don't think that you are safe in purchasing modern day Snap-On or Mac tools. A BUNCH of their stuff is made in china. I was told if a Snap-On tool doesn't say Made in USA on it then it was made in china. Have you ever put a 25 yr. old Snap-On screw driver or wrench in your hand and used it? If you have then you know that you are holding a super high quality tool in your hand. One of my buddies has a new set of Snap -On screw drivers and when I went to use one it felt cheap and awkward, and it looked gaudy. The first thing that came to my mind was Crapola. Its amazing how many quality companies get bought up and the first thing that comes to these people's minds is how can we cheapen this up, all they do is ruin a good name because c'mon, we ain't stupid are we?

Truly a therapy session! I've been meaning to clean the garage "when this project is finished" for the last umpteen projects. Now I find myself cleaning until I find what I'm looking for then back to project work around the house. Still can't find the sawzall, so I used the chainsaw to trim a few pieces of wood yesterday.

I don't know exactly what the bracket was originally for but I modified it to work originally in the front attach-a-matic when running the tiller or using the box blade then when I got the 2stage blower I figured I'd make work on the rear the weights were "green" lol, then the cast wheel weights I decided to close the hole up to keep grass clippings and snow out so I machined the custom logo caps at work (I'm a machinist),Jeff.

This one?

I wonder if he clean up the shop before he took the photo. Wood floor , gas heat and the place is clean. I can't even see my floor or workbench. I know they are where they should be , because of all the stuff piled up.

Welcome to the Group the "Wheelers" here are a good group of gentlemen; others might say bit "weird" but geez the hobby can get away from you at times........

Welcome to Red Square! Great Horse! Youngest Grandson loves Horses 'specially with the "truck looking" muffler. Be sure to update your post. Love to see restoration progress.

Hello from Ontario Canada. Just joined today and really enjoy this site.I'm loving all the info and pictures of the best tractors ever built [Wheelhorse of course] I own a 1964/604 restored,a1964 lawn ranger, and a 1971 800 special. I will post pictures when I figure out why it won't let me lol. I have wanted to get to the show in Arendtsville in June and was wondering if anyone knows the proper address so I can punch it in GPS. someone told me it was in Biglersville? any info would be great. Thanks

Hank , I took a close look at your rear hitch on your Raider 12, did you build that? Is it hydraulic or electric. Would love to see more picture of the hitch. You are doing a great job on the 854.

Thanks everyone. The weather is getting more favorable for painting so maybe I can start adding some color and doing some final assembly soon. I think I see a little light at the end of the tunnel I just hope there is not a train behind it.

Think of all of the skills and knowledge you have gained, the satisfaction of a job well done is priceless too.

Mine are 9/16-18. I noticed you ordered cap screws, they will work if you are coming from the back side and installing lug nuts otherwise you will need lug bolts. At posted by Tractorhogg.

I got them off Amazon. Best price and free shipping. 180 a piece though. as I said, pricey but I plan to have the tractor for the long term. Worst case I have to use a spacer on the inside of rim......but I think it will clear.

I would love to come see your collection (and maybe purchase something) -- But then I am only 50 miles away from you, so it is no big deal for me to get there

I would love to go to a big ole house party, garden sale, swap meet ,call it what you will, but alas I don't live in the USA I think you should maybe catalogue what you have, and at least a snap of each. I don't tend to want stuff that I haven't seen if you know what I mean.

Thanks, my Dad told me it was a 77 im not 100% sure it there a way I can figure out the year? I ended up grabbing a piece of steal from fleet farm and made a bar to use with the plow. So far it is working great and I have plenty of down force if needed. But yes I will need the chain for the mower deck this summer so I will be ordering that. Thanks! Yes it was well taken care of and runs perfect! I just want to do a fresh coat of paint on everything and replace any broken parts. She ran great in the storm we got here in Minnesota last night too! Thanks for the help with the chains, I tightened them up and aired all the tires to 10 psi and it never slipped once!

Steve, The seals can be removed with some care without removing the axles once you have the hub off. Then slide new one on axle and gently tap into place. I used brass and steel brush attachments on my drill to to clean up the axle of rust. Then fine emory to further polish the axle high points. The rusting had caused high spots. When done, I used anti Seize liberally and it was easier to slide the hub back on. Nothing more than slight tap with rubber mallet necessary at this point. I only polished enough to remove rust and not so much as to make the fit too loose. I saw no need to replace my woodruff keys. if you wish for a little greater holding power or anti slip of Hub to Axle you could drill a lite indentation on axle where the locking bolt contacts the axle. I did choose to use a new bolt and nut rather than reusing the older ones which were in bad shape. Pull the part number of seals from the manual. If you don't have the manual with parts break down, check our manual forum. I think I got my seals from NAPA but cant recall for sure.

I only have one working Raider 12 at the moment and it has an 8 hp engine temporarily. However I am currently rebuilding an 854. This is without a doubt the best place to get help with any problems you may have with a . Hank

PPPPfffttt..........wood floor !!!!! Look closer,,,,he has gas HEAT !!!!!! .......should i get mine an electric blanket?? lolololo This is gonna look great.....I see a tiller hiddding behind the machine.,,,,maybe this is gonna be a looker and a worker... Nothin like a machine paying its way ,,,and carrying its weight.......or is that the other way?? lol

Your welcome Howard and stand by

As usual, we can expect nothing but the best from Terry.

The part of the axle sticking out looks like it might have been like that for some time. That fact that it is resisting moving back indicates that as well. Before you break the hub you might try ignoring it... Or, keep spraying it with PB Blaster or the like, give it lots of time and come back with a HD puller, made or borrowed. In the meantime it's not hurting anything if it's stuck there.

" a GT 14 I've owned for about 35 years " Only one WH?!? Many of us suffer from a terrible affliction! You have more or perhaps you are immune?

As I offered in the Yahoo Group...but I don't know if you read it or not: This is your pic and I edited it with some notes. Release or remove the jam nut(s) #4 in this pic. Wrench the #1 bolt until it stops. By 1/2 turn increments, wrench the bolt(s) #3 also tight, and UNIFORMLY to preclude cracking either hub. After you progressively and UNIFORMLY tighten the perimeter (four or five) bolts #3, whack the center hub-puller bolt with a dead-blow hammer...with some violence apparent. Repeat the process until the hub is broken loose. When it breaks loose, use the #1 bolt to slowly pull it off of the axle shaft.

Terry, thanks for all you do. This is really cool. You made me look through all my pictures today, I did not get anything done. Thanks I think I have a groundhog for you...it is house broke...name is Phil. Anyway, will this shot work?? THANKS TERRY AND LOLA.

You'll feel flaws, just not as good as you will after a few thousand hours! Your hood's sheet metal looked decent so use all the filler you need to fill the dents. A thin coat of a finish filler well beyond the remaining filler will give you a good "guide coat" and you could skip the "Feather Fill", though used sparingly it is a great product! And yes, take your time, stop sanding the areas where you hit metal and notice the areas that the sand paper didn't touch. Those are the areas should have had more filler! Better filler than primer! And there's nothing wrong with using straight edges throughout the process! One of my favorite sanding tools was a straight with no handle paint paddle with sandpaper wrapped around it tightly. Sand using a proper pattern until both sides of the paper wear out and then rip it off to expose new. Great straight edge with a bit of flex!