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Once again it is time to start thinking seriously about the WHCC Big Show. Every year I try to bring something for our forum support members who are attending the show as a thank you for your continued support of our forum. This year I have decided to do custom photo vinyl banners for your shops. If you are going to the show please post here and upload your favorite tractor photo or email it to me so I can set up your banner to print. I will be taking orders through May 31st and will have your banner waiting for you at the show. Not sure what I will be bringing for the drawing this year but as last year we will enter you in the drawing when you pick up your banner. Looking forward to seeing you all again this year. the banners are 12 x 30 inch. perfect size for any shop and you can not beat FREE!! Thank You all again for your Support and friendship. Terry & Lola Dennis This of course is not my tractor pictured on this sample. Make sure your image is large enough to print well.

Well, I decided on the top left. Decal is installed along with the model and serial number tags on all 520's and the blower. Terry sure does make great decals. My 10 year old daughter Bailey has been playing with my Dad's old Lionel train set tucked in with the Wheel Horses (sorry about the green tractor). Cleat

Hey guys I have a 1977 C-81 I got from my Grandpa when he pasts away. I am slowly restoring it and im using it for snow plowing and mowing in the summer. He had some chains for the rear tires but they seem much to big so I ran to Fleet Farm and got some spring to tighten them up. They still do not seem right so im wondering where I can get the correct chains? Im also looking for a new steering wheel as this one is cracked, im looking for all the original stickers so I can re-paint then put the correct stickers on. And I need the chain the hooks the mower deck to the handle that raises and lowers the deck. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Ill make a list below and throw up a picture of her. Im sure I will be looking for more parts in the future that I will add. Thanks Parts Needed: Correct Tire Chains New Steering Wheel Original Stickers Chain That Attaches The Mower Deck To The Handle.

Hello from Ontario Canada. Just joined today and really enjoy this site.I'm loving all the info and pictures of the best tractors ever built [Wheelhorse of course] I own a 1964/604 restored,a1964 lawn ranger, and a 1971 800 special. I will post pictures when I figure out why it won't let me lol. I have wanted to get to the show in Arendtsville in June and was wondering if anyone knows the proper address so I can punch it in GPS. someone told me it was in Biglersville? any info would be great. Thanks

Just joined the forum. I have a GT 14 I've owned for about 35 years and have managed to keep it running and mowing, with generally minor issues. Its a 1969 Model 1-7441. From time to time, I have some problems or glitches that occur that sometimes need input and info from others more experienced with Wheel Horses than I am. I hope to learn here. I have a question I'll be posting shortly. Regards, Steve * Please review my introductory topic. GT 14 rear wheel hub

You can always connect to one or two links from the end to effectively tighten the chains. Deck lift chain you can get at any hardware store. Do you also need the trunnion and eye bolt ? Eye bolt can also be easily sourced. Chain simply bolts to lift arm. Stickers come from here http://www.redoyourhorse.com/ Cleat

Thank you Terry. Can you use this one.

Here are a couple. I know it sounds silly, but pushing snow with my son's suburban has got me wanting a bigger, heavier horse of my own. Brings back memories of riding a charger v8 with my grandfather. Plus my mom bought the Burban for my son and we lost her in October and I really don't want to tear it up!

I wanted to get something done today...way too nice out. I was just going to watch the E-Tank do it's thing, but as usual, something needed to get done so I just don't waste the day. Cleaning up the axles with the 4" grinder with a wire wheel was the answer. I needed to do this so I could see if I was going to have to turn the axles around. Here is the before...one with a flash. The flash catches more defects. They actually clean up very nice. The 2 on the right are the worst...they were in the RJ from Iowa. The one with all the rust, goop and water in it.

Well I just want to thank all you wheel horse guys out there that helped me. I got the 520 purrrrring like a happy kitty !! It did not have that log jet tube in it. Someone was in there and did not apparently put it back in! No wonder it ran like it did. No more hunting and running like it had a bullet shot through it ! Thanks for the photos Martin that tipped me off on it.

The day and the life of RJ nuts....

I wonder if he clean up the shop before he took the photo. Wood floor , gas heat and the place is clean. I can't even see my floor or workbench. I know they are where they should be , because of all the stuff piled up.

Here is the tally so far. 16 support members going to the Big Show. Shooting for 50 support members this year. Also if for any reason you can not come please let me know by May31st. I am also working on some items to raffle off again this year so remember your number. We will have a wooden nickel with your number on it and when you pick up your banner we will put your nickel in the drawing pot so pick up your banner as early as possible after you arrive to be included in all the drawings. prizes and drawing times will be posted here when we figure it all out. If you are planning to go to the big show and are not yet a supporting member of the forum this would be a great time to consider becoming one.

I found two of them at a local bearing and welding shop. Fit perfectly and blowing snow today!

Your hub has shown willingness to move so that's a positive. The one I am restoring, detailed in GT 14 Restomod thread, was rust welded and I broke 3 or 4 pullers. My resolution was similar to DaveOman's but with added muscle of a 10 or 12 ton hub hydraulic puller I got off amazon. Around 100 bucks if I recall. Also, if you have a spare hub you can use it as shown previously. Here are partial pics of my event which caused a 2 plus week delay in my restoration process, much aggregation and way more blood and sweat than one would think possible until you actually tear one of these old beasts apart. I have one I would send you but it's buried in winter storage. If your still in need this spring remind me and I will send you one.

As I offered in the Yahoo Group...but I don't know if you read it or not: This is your pic and I edited it with some notes. Release or remove the jam nut(s) #4 in this pic. Wrench the #1 bolt until it stops. By 1/2 turn increments, wrench the bolt(s) #3 also tight, and UNIFORMLY to preclude cracking either hub. After you progressively and UNIFORMLY tighten the perimeter (four or five) bolts #3, whack the center hub-puller bolt with a dead-blow hammer...with some violence apparent. Repeat the process until the hub is broken loose. When it breaks loose, use the #1 bolt to slowly pull it off of the axle shaft.

I wish I could give three "likes", one for each of those 520's! Mine all work just fine, but it will be a long time before they get rebuilt like those.

That looks great. The wife will love it hanging on the wall over our bed.

Well, That should pose no problem for me.................Everything takes me a little longer to get done. I have some significant back problems that limit driving to short duration only......at best.......PA is just WAY TOO FAR ! Wish I could go though!!! I was previously more of an engine collector, however over the last few years I have taken more of an interest in tractors...........Easier to move them around.......Turn a key and go.... and you can drive them around at shows. So far.... I have the pieces in primer at my friends shop....maybe later this week I can start shooting the red topcoat. I also have a couple pics of the steering wheel and seat...the gentleman I bought it from said he thought they were not correct, but now after looking at others photos. maybe they are right............regardless that's whats going on it though......close enough!!!! I will be reading up on taking the tranny down correctly Thanks for the info!!

I too have a GT-14, mine has a front end loader and is a real work saver. Lots of folks on here to help with answers, also you can use the search function and you probably will find a thread with answers already there,.

Welcome aboard fellow GT-14 aficionado! Glad to add another to the ranks!

I like the Military Insignia!

Wow, what a nice offer this is! Thanks Terry. Unfortunately I don't have any good pics of any of my tractors but hopefully this will work

Are you going to the Big Show in June?? This project I am doing could be done end of this month (Feb)...weather permitting. That's what I meant by "in a hurry".

It is possible that Lane and I will have an extra bull gear differential for you. Are you in a hurry? When you get yours apart, post some pictures of that and the other gears. Right now I am working on a transmission trilogy and not positive what is spare yet. If you want to follow along on this, here is the link. I am thinking we will be able to help you out.

I'm going out this Saturday to pick it up. The guy who is selling it is really nice and even said that if I get there an it's not what I expect, that I don't have to feel obligated to take it. I feel pretty good about the purchase. I'll send you some pics late Saturday night or Sunday morning after I wake up from a coma induced from all the driving. Aldon, I'll be passing through the Roanoke/Christiansburg area on my way. You don't have a good front blade that you'd like to part with really reasonable do you? OOPS never mind, I thought I saw on your profile that you were close to me here in VA, but I see NY on your avitar.

Thanks for the axle photos Steve. Looking good! Yes that RJ tractor also had four bad wheels too. Not one worth saving after removing the tires. I have a another complete set to use on the rebuild. Glad to see that we have two very good set of axles and like you indicate the Iowa ones can be repurposed by drilling a hole on the opposite end! Here a a few picks from today as I took the RJ apart. I took the frame, hood and seat pan to the sandblaster today. The gas tank was rusty and had a rust hole but I have a new one for replacement. The steering wheel and shaft were removed. Steering wheel was shot and I have a new steering wheel (One of the Cub Cadet 11/16 th splined ones) being drilled out and a roll pin hole being added to the steering wheel hub at my local machine shop. The steering block off the RJ also needed the roll pin pieces on each end removed. The original roll pin had rusted off the steering shaft.! Here are a few photos of the latest work. The frame after sandblasting will need a new left support bar welded to the hood support-original was broken off. Gas tank supports seem ok but new hood bolts/studs are going to be needed after sandblasting. I may also just have hood worked on at local body shop. Final picture is of the pallet with the Wheel Horse parts ready for sandblasting.

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If he can't I can ... on my way with the horse hauler!!! OHHH you mean the picture Ed....... my bad...

Thanks Steve. This image is just too small to use. Do you have a larger image file?

You can certainly be proud of that job. That is some beautiful work.

I like it on the left as well. Yes, the blower was completely overhauled last summer with all stainless hardware. I like nyloc nuts as nothing comes loose. The tractors are mainly stainless hardware as well. Cleat

You do realize now when you're out getting seat time you are goin to be watching the ground for those missing ones!!! I usually find my missing horse hardware when going down to get the mail...

Those 4 little bolts could end your wheel horse fun in a real hurry. lol I want to know the numbers on how many wifes killed there husband since 2004! Not to but I found a bolt laying in the garage two weeks ago or so. Once I replaced the other two hanging on with new bolts , I went to throw them on my scrap bolt pile and went HEY! that looks familiar. Sure enough the bolt I found was one of the missing bolts but never put 2 and 2 together... Oh well. I dont feel as crazy now about overlooking missing bolts last year. So those suckers fell out recently! Oh well , the story has a good ending atleast.

I'm showing my age but growing up in Chicago we used to be treated to visits from the "Scissors Grinder." The cart was red and green, and he would pass through our neighborhood about twice a year sharpening knives, scissors, axes, etc. We could always tell he was coming as his cart had a gong with a distinctive sound pattern. If it was summer, the group of kids would follow along to our "play boundary." Those were the days of corner stores, milk man, vegetable man, rag man, junk man with his horse, and beat cops.

PPPPfffttt..........wood floor !!!!! Look closer,,,,he has gas HEAT !!!!!! .......should i get mine an electric blanket?? lolololo This is gonna look great.....I see a tiller hiddding behind the machine.,,,,maybe this is gonna be a looker and a worker... Nothin like a machine paying its way ,,,and carrying its weight.......or is that the other way?? lol

If you don't plan to remove the hub and just want to move it back to the end of the axle you could get a heavy steel plate (3/8" or thicker) and drill four holes and get bolts of the size and length necessary to go through the hub and put nuts on them. Clean the stub that is exposed and lubricate it and use more PB Blaster, now tighten the bolts uniformly as much as you can and tap on the back side (not the flange) of the hub, may need to let it rest under tension overnight and repeat. Hope this works for you.

Aldon, Just noticed the last part of your message. I really appreciate the offer you've made. I'm going to continue to seek a hub out now, because if I don't and get into what you encountered in the spring when I need to mow, I would have a big problem here. I think I need to allow myself plenty of time to resolve this situation.....just in case things go really badly.

That seat is probably right. Not sure about the steering wheel, but it looks like it belongs. Take it easy, I am sure we can figure this out.

Sounds like he has a 522xi with a 22 hp Kohler Command and that does have power steering. It is a completely different tractor, and the attachments are different from the standard Wheel Horse 520-H. It may also be a 417xt-series, which again is a completely different tractor.

this sounds more like a 522xi if it has a 22 hp kohler

Last day to vote for Ryan Hollister, don't let him down.

Hi Steve........Appreciate that. I am not really in a hurry. I am currently painting it all up Piece by piece...............again Luckily for me there all REAL small parts. Then I still have to get the k91 running..............The other gears in the tranny LOOK good from what I can see...but..............It does have to all come apart. Its something I can take my time with...............I can drive around at shows on my panzer for now.

A couple minutes of your time could really help this young man. If everyone who has read this would remember when they were 15 and just needed a little help. Please vote.

Thanks Dick...I didn't have a pic. BTW, she's a beauty.

Brian, If you are still interested in weights, I have a pair of solid steel weights that are 68# each, I will sell them for $160 for the pair. I see you are in W. Central Ohio, so for full price I will bring them to Columbus and meet you there to save the shipping. I am near Dayton and we get to Columbus pretty often so this will make the cost more reasonable for you. I have attached a photo showing them on one of my tractors. Let me know if interested!

Nice wood floor in your shop too!

Hello all, and Merry Christmas! My name is Luke, I am 21 years old, going to school for Industrial Technology Management and welding. I really enjoy restoring old items like boats, motorcycles, tools, etc. That hobby brought me down to an estate auction a few weeks ago where I was buying a few pieces of machinery. At the beginning of the auction one of the lots was an old wheel horse tractor with a plow and mower deck, it was pretty crusty, the motor was missing most of its parts and had thrown its rod. I sort of kept my eye on it and once the bidding came up, not a soul bid on her and the auctioneer dropped the price down to $5 and I threw out the bid... to my surprise nobody else bid. So I got it for a total of $5.98 after tax and the buyers premium! I didn't have my trailer with me at the time, and as it turns out the tractor, plow, mower deck, an outboard motor, a moped, and a rockwell radial arm saw will all fit into the back of a Pontiac Aztek! I got the tractor home and I was going over it and figured out it was a 1965 655 model with a serial number of 107102 Overall it seems to be in good shape and a great candidate for a quick restoration this spring. The transmission goes into each gear, the rear tires are good, fronts need to be replaced, needs a new motor, some paint and decals, and a few finishing touches and she should be good 2 go! PS I found a nice Snap On TM75 1/4 ratchet under the seat! Here is the tractor at the auction: Back at my shop getting ready for winter:

Wallfish's description of the failure makes sense to me from an engineering perspective. Without seeing the failure pix, I surmise that it was a failure in bending (not torsion). Also, his description about letting air out of the outer tire makes perfect sense but not (directly) for the reason cited. From an engineering analysis, think of the axle (half axle in this case) as a simple beam, supported on one end by the differential carrier bearing and the needle bearing somewhere in the middle. The reaction force from the tire (actually half the weight of the tractor and all else on the rear) is cantilevered at the far end, centered approximately at the halfway point of the tire width. When WH designed the axle this cantilevered dimension is in the order of maybe 8-10 inches (half the tire width, the length of the hub and on an 8 speed the space between the hub and the needle bearing). If you put duals on and they are both equally inflated, the cantilever length is halfway between the two tires. Since Wallfish told that he had the pressure in the outside tire cranked way up, I surmise that those tires were carrying all the load and the inner tires were not doing much at all. So now the cantilever length is from the center of the outside tire to the needle bearing, maybe 2x what is was designed for. Running on uneven terrain shifts the weight more to one side than the other, so not only is the cantilever length over the design limit, now the weight at the end of the cantilever is greater. Add in the stress concentration (sharp edge) at the bottom of the woodruff key slot and you have the perfect storm so to speak. Once the initial crack started at the bottom of the keyway, everytime the axle would rotate, the crack would propagate (grow) a bit. Eventually the axle will (and did) fail. If this is what really happened, the conclusion to draw is that weight alone was not the culprit, but the LOCATION of the weight far out on the axle was the cause. It is also possible that there was a lot of torque on the axle as a result of the big meaty tires. If it was a torsion failure, the broken of the axle would have been a 45 degree stub. Hard for me to think this was the cause as I would suspect that gear teeth or splines would fail, but these WH tractors when geared down can develop lots of torque (think of how many times you have lifted the front end when you popped the clutch).