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Nothing like putting the "cart" before the "horse"

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders head to their next debate.

The average person does not see value just because its a Wheel Horse. I think your buying market is limited to mostly educated tractor folks like the guys here. Compound that with where you live and looks like you may have a hard time selling. And like others have said, for that kind of money the seat and steering have got to be addressed prior to sale. And most importantly is the fact that Christmas is 10 days away. If I just went and spent $2500 on a tractor with a ratty seat and didn't steer a week before Christmas my wife would hang my balls on the Xmas tree.

Works great with the Harbor F. Gen Head did this like 15 years ago and never looked back.... Have used this through the yrs when a power outage strikes...... comforting to have and no additional engine to maintain.

slowly starting to restore one of my 520's. found a great place on line for the decals ( redo your horse) but am not able to find the heavy clear sticker for under the seat springs. If any one out there knows of the part number or how to obtain would be great. Last year I went through the engine, had 800 hours on it so figured it was time. I attached a few shots after the initial paint work and new seat. Also yes.................a shot of my other toys..............I mean tools..............lol

I've been chasing after this women for 67 years.....Just can't seem to get my hands on her.

See, I told you my grandpa had a Wheel Horse"!

Better get the shed cleaned out. we're all coming for cake and ice cream!

Bill of Rights Adopted.

Had some fun today... was able to gain access to one of the M60 main battle tanks we have on static display.

Might point out the original pricing?

welcome to the netherlands

Had my 2 week follow-up today. Everything looks great according to my surgeon. Here's a picture of the hardware, which will be my entry into the Titanium Club.

Step on it Gramma...Indians are after us.....

Wow that's a lot of years together! You don't hear that often enough these days. Congrats to you!

Easy Secretariat, we only have one more mare that requires your stud service. Funny, I am thinking the same thing about that mare in front of me. Ironic Jim, that you should name this the "Last One".

I went back and looked at you add. You have a pretty nice horse but it does need a few things ie. seat even sum black duck tape would help the looks and a set of decals would go a long way too and it is winter time almost X mas i have listed a few horses and bought a couple too nobody is buying or selling much right now and i don't know much about your area either you price isn't too bad i personally wouldn't spend that much but compared to what you get at a box store thats a steal but people just don't look at it that way i guess i have had a 310-8 on CL for 300$ and haven't even gotten a call on it. Its just that time of year

I just sold a 1980 D160 with FEL,started a little high on the price working my way down,live in a remote area and not wheel horse country out west,only got two inquiries,one wanted to trade an older model car and the other said was above his wife's pain threshold,after a week guy called and expressed interest,asked why the the price was so low($1350),long story short we settled at $1200,made five bills on it but that wasn't my intention,just too much tractor for my place and going a different direction,funny thing is got almost a foot of snow over the weekend and regret pulling the trigger so fast but my driveway is steep and narrow and without 4wd it wasn't going to work anyway,like the previous poster said its worth what someone's willing to pay or wait for spring when its value increases. I think you must realize also that folks can run down to the local big box store and buy a brand new rider for $1000-1500 with warranty and financing,we know there not built anywhere near and well but new is new.

I have had this project in mind for quite awhile and I have to admit I was over thinking it so I put it on the back burner. I wasn't sure if the pivot on the quick tach would give me the tension I needed on the belt so I was trying to come up with a easy way to make a spring loaded idler, and I wasn't sure if the belt would support the unit without dropping it to the ground. I decided to just start slapping things together and modify as I went. It worked out great on the first try. Im not sure of the ease of mounting yet since I don't have the frame all welded together yet, but the plan is to be able to just ull up to the unit, lift the one end up into the quick tach then rotate up to install the belt. no real lifting and no strain.

OH MY!!!

Great... you all can help.

She`s definitely a keeper!

Well done - both with tractors and spouse!

Wow! Super cleanup and a great Horse. Definitely a keeper and a work Horse! I think the ad below is from 1995?

For the most part I'm able to do most of the work on my Horse's without help, or I'll make a phone call to someone who can explain it to me when I overthink things. I can repair a Kohler single, tear into a carb, work on the transmissions, do some light welding, handle my own wiring....but some things I still & will always struggle with. Painting & or body work. I've never been happy with any of my paint jobs, no I don't use a spray gun....just rattle can. Spray guns seem hopelessly complicated to me, mixing paint & or hardener. This may be more of a patience thing than ability. I've had my best results with Valspar IH Red in rattle can...but TSC no longer carries that brand. Points.....maybe it's my cave man sized hands & or my 47 year old eyes, but I really struggle adjusting points. They are in an awkward to get to place (when on the tractor) & always seem to be at the wrong gap after I snug them down. Why am I writing this? I know others in the hobby who find painting & points simple or enjoyable, but won't touch a Carter N carb or a transmission because they feel it's above there skill level & will be in over there heads if they try to do it. So I'm curious what you other Red Square members may struggle with, find easy & enjoyable to work on where another may not. Or any tips or tricks that can help others. My biggest tip, a clean tractor, clean work space & lot's of light always helps when making repairs.

Looking good, just about like mine! If all of us who are members of the titanium club got together we would have more hardware than Ace!

Have bunch extra parts , 59 trans , front wheels off my Kobuta BX2230 , 8" HF wheels , HF 79cc predator . Will have my son build new frame from scratch along with a new hood and fenders . Here's the catch , I want to build a Allis Chalmers WD replica but my model would be WH to pay homage to . It would low and mean . Was also thinking about painting frame , tool box , and motor black . Wheels and seat cream . Then I could change out the hood and fenders for Some RJ ones . I just want a cool custom that nobody else has , and if I paint it that way I could have both a and Allis . Would you let the orange one come to the big show . No horse parts would be injured in this process , (maybe a hood that's already full of holes , rivets , dents , and rust ) . Remember I'm going for a rat hot rod look exaggerating the hood lines . If I remove the gas tank ,change the air cleaner , and exhaust for go cart parts I can lower the hood . The RJ in the picture is my 59 and that one going back stock to match my 58 . So let's here your opinions on project RAT TRAC !

Russ, I am so sorry for your mishap. You are still capable of healing, and I pray that you will. You have been an inspiration to me and many others. Good luck and Godspeed.

I never realized that NH had it as an option on the GT22. The 523Dxi, 522xi, and 529Lxi steering is actually a hydraulic-style steering as opposed to power steering. There isn't a direct connection from the wheel to the tires. The steering wheel is activating a valve. An easy way to check if it has the option is to see if the wheel spins with the engine off. I have found that TractorData is not very accurate sometimes. For instance, the weight shown is low by about 200 lbs.

Wish I had read these post before I began my painting..I bead blasted all parts after a complete tear down. I mean every nut bolt and screw. I then primed everything with Rustoleum white bare metal primer. I then took the cheap way and bought the Majic paint at the tractor store..IH Red and the IH white..I used a spray gun and mix with the hardener and thinned with mineral spirits. As for the results, I am very pleased with the finish, no it did not take weeks or many days to cure. I am not restoring this for show but it does look great, however it is still in pieces and I will know the full results soon..Hope I didn't make too big of a mistake. All I can say is read and learn from these guys, they know their stuff. Thanks for being there for us noobs.

I have a 520 as well that I considered selling, but I don't want to loose my blower and who wants a 520 w/a 60" deck this time of year with out a snow implement. I love the extra traction of the big tires, I'd prefer a snow blade but darn it all if I can't find an extension for anything near reasonable. Since people might mentally be blocked on the price, if you need some cash before the holidays you might sell just the blower. If I was any closer I'd love to pick up a tall chute. I see them for anywhere from $100-550 around me, but I don't know what a realistic average selling point is ($300?). Since it'd fit any decent horse, your audience is a lot wider and you might sell it quick, then subtract that from the 520 w/the 60" and sell that in the spring when people won't care about snow and want to get the grass cut fast. A 520 w/a smaller deck has to compete with all the big-box 'tractors', but the large deck should really make it stand out - try finding anything with a 60" for anywhere near $1k in any store (or less than $5k for that matter). Plus if you can hold out with the tractor you might find time to deal with the small issues over the winter and get a much better return.

Sharp eye Bob, I must admit the resemblance is uncanny.

Oh and ...Don't make me use this whip....

That front tiller is awsome...you oughta pickup all the junk tillers you can find, build these and patent them. lol

LOL!

I did a little investigating and found your CL posting,don't take offense but my first reaction was WOW that's pricey for a 20 year old tractor,raggedy seat,doesn't turn right and nearly 600 hrs,now I don't pretend to know what the value of WH tractors back there but here you would be lucky to get around $1500,Just my 2 cents but imo you should fix the seat,tape or replace,definitely fix steering(find the time)and mount attachments for a greater visual presence,good luck.

I will add, that the right "setup" with a loader tractor makes all the difference. I had an ARK550 on a D250 & I feel it was a better loader than the Kwik-Way, but the tractor was so horrible & I believe the pump was to weak that my 310-8/Kwik-Way will work circles around it. (I've had a few FEL/GT's really...a few were really beat or used up & one I got from Bob Rock was just to pretty to scratch) The right HYD pump, good lines, good cylinders, secure mounts & the right amount of counterweight. Yeah that's all obvious, but if one is off....it turns a loader tractor into a not so useful tool that just sits.

From what I can tell, the loaders become available to buy pretty frequently. Its the matter of finding or making the machine-specific subframe to make it work on your tractor that is the sticking point. I only drew up what I needed to in AutoCAD in order to get flat parts laser-cut out of 1/4" plate for the subframe, and pump carrier parts. Between the laser cutting, and (2) will-call steel orders of round, rectangular and square stock cut to size, I didn't even need to touch a saw of any kind for this project. I did have to massage a couple of the rectangular tube pieces due to cutting tolerances being -0" to +1/8" In those situations a couple of pieces were juist a hair too long. When I'm all done I plan on posting up a DWG and DXF file versions of the file I used to get parts laser cut from. Between the CAD file and the linked isometric drawing below, a shade-tree type with a little know-how should have no problem building what I have. the actual PDF of the JPG below is attached to this post for download. Stay tuned for the CAD files for the 1/4" steel I had cut. Those files will be posted later. Dimensioned Subframe ISO.pdf

HAVE A GREAT DAY CRAIG !!!!

I think he knows the people on this forum well, hence the city designation of Megalopolois. I am sure some know where AMC and his shed lives, so see you there for cake and ice cream. Happy Birthday and buy yourself something big and red (not a Nebraska Cheerleader, lol) for your birthday,

But the shed is magic, it cleans itself and it gets bigger by itself as more space is needed... Craig!

57 years of that kind of support. I am a lucky man. Marvin

Workers I leave with original patina, I only paint ones that have no work in their future. First ones a worker, second is a non- worker

Subframe DONE. Welding DONE. Heres a shot of my last bead: The subframe fits great, I do need to order the big mamma-jamma u-bolts that will clamp the subframe to the rear axle. One thing that kinda bugs me is that I have to remove the red plastic bumper cover while having the loader mounted, otherwise the cross tube in the main boom will just graze it. In the Kwikway owner manual it says the bumper cover needs to be removed, I just figured it was so the front diagonal brace brackets had more clearance. Oh well. Not a deal breaker, it just looks better with the red cover on, I think. I suppose if I welded the subframe up with the uprights maybe an inch farther forward it would have cleared, but that would have monkeyed with the center of gravity and made the setup just slightly more tippy. Here are the photos that show the frame and bucket lined up/mounted.

No, it is time to add on to your garage!

i could not work a tractor that nice and that low of hrs. call me stupid or what ever but i couldn't do it. it would be a show queen if it where mine besides i have enough workers, more then enough if you ask the wife and kids eric j

Your Stallions are certainly ready for cold, wet, nasty white junque. You Sir, are all set! If we get snow, the grandsons will love it. I'll sip hot coffee and watch from the window.