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10 pointsA couple were Christmas shopping. The shopping center was packed and as the wife walked around she was surprised to discover that her husband was nowhere to be found. She was quite upset because they had a lot to do and she became so worried that she called him on her cell phone to see where he was. In a quiet voice he said: "Do you remember that jewelers we went into about five years ago, where you fell in love with that diamond necklace that we couldn't afford, and I told you I would get it for you one day?" The wife choked up and began to cry and said: "Yes, I do remember that shop." He replied: "Well, I'm in the bar next door."
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8 pointsHad a friend of ours at my wife's work today ask if we had an edger, but I pulled the engine off it this summer to fix up an old mini-bike someone gave me. When I found out that he was trying to bury invisible fence wire on his new home without a lawn, I offered the 502 and my plow. it took an hour to trench around his whole property, shy of the one edge of his yard that took him 5 hours with a shovel! win for the WH!
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6 pointsI bought this sight unseen. Ingot great pictures and purchased from what I deemed a trust worthy guy. If not I guess I would learn my lesson. Until then I go with my gut. To each there own
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5 pointsI was a bit uptight when the Kansas City Star did not put anything on the front page about 12-7-1941....(small article was on an inner page).....but today John L was all over the news!!!..celebs get all the attention...but we vets are used to that (Nam vets for sure).....I try my best to inform my grand boys about the importance of what happened in 1941...few know that the good ole USA was fighting TWO wars at the same time...had we lost those wars, one might speculate what kind of life we would be living in today....in my town of 30K most of the WWII guys have passed on....only TWO left living in town that I know of....and I acknowledge them every time I see them....now "at ease soldier..light one up if ya got one....bumm one if ya don't"...lol
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5 pointsMy post was an attempt to help someone on Redsquare that likes his Wheel Horse tractors, and would like to improve the way they look. This is a "Hobby" to me, something I enjoy. I try to do the best I can in within that frame. I am not into repainting my tractors for show, or for the "Ultimate" in paint jobs. My results work for me. I've been knocking around on this planet for just short of seventy-one years. I rebuilt my first car engine when I was 15, and repainted my first car 2 years later. I have run into guys who need to tout their abilities before, even when not ask for. I know how to paint, how to prepare, how to finish-but this my Hobby..... I buy Regal Red @ Walmart for $4 a can- for that price, and because of the results I get- it beats anything else. It is not "Bad paint" Depending on the temperature, it can take a week to get hard.- Lets just enjoy these Tractors and our Hobby- regardless how "Professional" we are.- Thanks- Al
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5 pointsBah humbug to the bunch of you! Snow is God's way of telling us that skis and WH's with front blades are necessities of life... We should enjoy more of both!!! Deep and cold!!!
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4 pointsSpecifications Length 69" Engine Kohler K241S 46135A Wheelbase 47" Transmission Wheel Horse 5045 Width 36.5" Engine displacement 23.9 Cubic Inches Height 42" Engine Oil Capacity 2 Quarts Net Weight 656 lbs. Air Cleaner Novo Updraft Oil Filled Engine (4 cycle, single cylinder air cooled) 9.6 H.P. Spark Plug Champion H-10 Gap .025" Fuel Capacity 2.75 Gal. Ignition points gap .020" Tires, front 4.00 X 8" Pneumatic (16" diameter) Tires, Rear 6.40X 15" Pneumatic (27" diameter) Early production 953s can be distinguished by four primary features. The headlights are recessed behind the grill rather than protruding from it, they use a "Ross" steering gear rather than the later "Fan Gear", Have Serial Numbers beginning with "62" and the steering wheel has a diamond shaped center cap rather than a round one. It is thought that only about one thousand early models were produced though no actual production numbers are available. Early 953 Steering Wheel. Ross Steering Box
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4 pointsSpecifications Length Overall...................................................................61 inches Wheelbase...................................................................41 1/4 inches Width Overall.....................................................................34 inches Width of Front Wheels.................................................32 1/2 inches Height...........................................................................37 1/2 inches Height to Top of Hood..................................................33 1/2 inches Approx. Shipping Weight.......................................................450 lbs. Crop Clearance.............................................................7 1/4 inches Frame Clearance.........................................................13 1/2 inches Engine Horsepower (Engine Mfgr's Rating).............................6 H.P. Engine Crankcase Oil Capacity...............................................25 oz. Fuel Capacity.......................................................................1 gallon Tires (front) 4.00-8 Pneumatic (16" wheel dia.) Tires (rear) 6.00 x 12" Pneumatic (22 1/2" wheel dia.) Speeds - 3 Forward to 6 mph. 1 Reverse to 2 1/2 mph. Turning radius (to outside wheel)..................................................6' Wheel Horse pioneers Elmer and Cecil Pond realized the benefits of marketing early and capitalized on the publicity brought to their home region by the world famous Indianapolis 500 race. Beginning in 1961, Wheel Horse loaned approximately 40 new tractors to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway for use by race teams to tow their cars around the pits for the testing and racing activities during the month of May. A promotion dubbed the Indy 2 ½ was even created as the kickoff event, where the tractors were paraded from flagship distributor Radio Equipment Co. in Indianapolis to the speedway and then raced one lap around the famed 2.5 mile Brickyard piloted by dealers and other local media personalities. The publicity stunt was a huge success for Wheel Horse, and later advertising would tout Wheel Horse tractors as The Official Work Horse of the “500.” The promotional value of the Indy 500 reached new heights in 1968 when Wheel Horse came out with a new model, the “500” Special. This tractor was a no frills model, powered by a basic 6 hp recoil-start Tecumseh H60 engine backed by the standard 3-speed Uni-Drive transmission. What the “500” Special lacked in power, it made up for in looks with racing stripe decals on the hood and checkered flag decals on either side of the dash tower. Similar to previous Wheel Horse “Special” models, production of the “500” Special utilized different leftover parts which created some variances on the assembly line. Common known variances include the use of at least two different styles of hoods, mufflers, dash panels, steering wheels, seats, fender pans and checkered flag decals. Sale ads from May 1968 offer $200 off the “500” Special tractors, which were listed at a sale price of $529.95 and were advertised with a 32” rotary mower included. The "500" Special differed very little from the Commando 6 offered that same year, except the Commando 6 had an electric starter and did not feature the extra racing inspired decals. Much of what is known about these tractors is merely conjecture, as factory records were limited and were never formally released to the public. Based on known serial numbers it seems that there were at least 5 or 6 production runs of these tractors; however, the total production number for this model is unknown. One common belief is that these tractors were primarily sold at dealerships in Indiana, Illinois and Ohio (presumably due to their close proximity to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway); however, a few collectors have reported these tractors being sold new in other states as well. Since the tractors were relatively plain aside from the racing inspired graphics, it is believed that they did not sell as well as intended by the company. Several collectors have found “500” Special models equipped with electric starters or even 8 hp Kohler replacement engines believed to have been modified or upgraded by individual dealers to help sell the tractors when they were new. While the “500” Special models proudly represented the manufacturer’s racing ties, these tractors were never actually used for the big race. The larger 10 hp hydrostatic drive Charger 10 model, equipped with extra racing decals similar to those found on the “500” Special, was the tractor chosen by Wheel Horse to be utilized by teams at the 1968 Indy 500. There has been at least one seemingly staged press photo that has surfaced showing a "500" Special towing a race car at the speedway. The “500” Special was replaced in 1969 by the Work Horse 700 model, which featured a very similar decal package and was upgraded to a 7 hp electric start Tecumseh H70 engine to help boost sales. This is one of the only known photos to show a "500" Special at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Print ads for the "500" Special carried a racing theme to conjure up excitement for the new model. Advertised sale prices averaged $529.95, but were as high as $599.95 (with electric start) and as low as $404.95 on clearance. A fully restored "500" Special with 32" rotary mower on display at the 2015 WHCC Show. The following photos are to show variances in some of the parts used in construction of the "500" Special models. No confirmed pattern for the use of any of the following parts during the various assembly runs has yet been identified. Photos of original tractors and the Owners Manual were referenced in putting together this list of variances. In the absence of the original parts for comparison, anyone restoring a "500" Special could theoretically choose from their preference of parts pictured below and construct a correct original appearing tractor. HOOD Hood (Part # 7231) with Escutcheon Plate (Part # 7416) Hood (Part # 5465) with Grille Decal (Part # 6998) The most obvious difference in these two hoods is the number of horizontal openings in the grille. The first has 6 rows of openings and has a large rectangular opening filled with a escutcheon plate at the top, while the second hood has 7 rows of openings and a thin decal. The tractor pictured on the cover of the owner's manual shows the first style of hood with the escutcheon plate. It has previously been suggested on this forum that the second style hood with the decal was used in the later production run. Of the original tractors referenced, the hoods with the escutcheon plates seem to be more commonly used on the "500" Special tractors. As of 2015 the escutcheon plates were still available through Toro dealers. EXHAUST Muffler (Part # 7628) with Deflector (Part # 7843) Muffler (Part # 1739), Elbow (Part # 1755), Nipple (Part # 943358-4), Locknut (Part # 1756) and Brace The tractor pictured on the cover of the owner's manual shows the first rectangular shaped muffler with a deflector. Other similar variations of the second style of exhaust do not include the brace, which seems to be a relatively harder piece to find. Of the original tractors referenced, it seems as if the first rectangular style muffler is slightly more common over the shower head muffler style exhaust systems. Both types of mufflers are still readily available on the aftermarket. DECALS Racing Flag Decal with "6" (Part # 8379) Racing Flag Decal without "6" (Part # 8379) It is unknown exactly why there were two nearly identical versions of this decal made, the only difference being that one bears the number "6" indicative of the tractor's horsepower rating. Of the original tractors referenced, it seems the the majority have decals with the "6" present. The alternate versions with just the racing flags have also been spotted on the Charger 10 tractors that were outfitted for duty at the 1968 Indianapolis 500; however, for this application they were placed on the bottom front of the grille and on the backside of the seat. Another interesting fact is that the "500" Special trim decals on each side of the hood (Part # 8376) were originally rectangular and could be applied to either side of the tractor. The rectangular shape allowed for a little variance in the placement, most likely for the sake of increasing application speed on the production line. Once applied an assembly line worker would then trim the decals along the front edge of the hood to give them the beveled shape. Reproduction decals are readily available and can be had in either configuration. DASH PANEL Dash Panel (Part # 5453) Dash Panel (Part # 7379) with Shift Pattern Decal (Part #7883) Though not pictured in the owner's manual, the parts number listed is for the first style of dash panel pictured. This style dash panel used two round hole plugs for the absent lighter and generator accessories. It also contained a diagram of the transmission shift pattern printed directly on the panel. The second style dash panel used one round hole plug for the lighter and a rectangular plug to fill the light switch hole. This style dash did not have the shift pattern printed on it, so tractors with this part also had a shift pattern decal applied to the console (partially obstructed, but visible in the reference photo). Of the original tractors referenced, the majority had the first style dash panel with two round hole plugs. Reproduction decals for restoring either style dash plate are readily available, and the chrome hole plugs can often be found at hardware stores near the bins of loose fasteners. STEERING WHEEL Steering Wheel (Part # 4983), Insert (Part # 2897) and Decal (Part # 7421) Steering Wheel (Part # 7420), Insert (Part # 7469) and Decal (Part # 7421) The first style steering wheel is easily identified by its three thin angular spokes. These steering wheels were only used on the 1968 Commando 6, Commando 8, "500" Special, and the 1969 Workhorse 700 models. Due to their thin spokes, these steering wheels seemed prone to cracking or warping. It is becoming increasingly difficult to find one of these steering wheels in good condition. The second style steering wheel is characterized by its three straight tapered spokes and was more commonly used among Wheel Horse tractors during the late 1960s. The tractor pictured on the cover of the owner's manual shows the second style of steering wheel; however, the part number given in the manual corresponds to the first style of steering wheel. Of the original tractors referenced, it seems as if the first style of steering wheel pictured is slightly more common than the second steering wheel pictured. Reproduction steering wheel inserts and decals are readily available. SEAT Fiberglass Pan Seat (Part # 7070) Three-Piece Seat (Part # 7018, 7019, 7020) The first seat bolts to the fender pan with four studs that extend out of the bottom of the fiberglass pan. Over time and exposure to the elements, these seats were very prone to cracking or having the vinyl damaged, thus making them very rare to find in good condition. The second style seat fastens to the fender pan with only two studs that extend from the metal seat base. While more rugged and able to survive the test of time somewhat better, these seats also have their wear points. Perhaps the most common area of wear includes the top edge of the back seat cushion. These seats are also becoming harder to find in good condition. The tractor pictured on the cover of the owner's manual shows the fiberglass pan style seat and lists the same part number as well. Of the original tractors referenced, there is a nearly even split of the use of each of the two styles of seats. Reproduction seat covers have been produced for the three piece style seat, although they do no include the embossed Wheel Horse logo. FENDER PAN Fender Pan (Part # 7444) Fender Pan (Part # 5661) The difference in the two fender pans is the presence of holes drilled in the rear of the pan to accommodate a light. The first style shown has three holes where a light would be added if the tractor was so equipped. The second style does not have these three holes drilled and was likely left over from earlier production runs before the rear light was an option. It is unknown which fender pan is pictured on the tractor in the owner's manual; however, it provides the part number for the first style of fender pan. Of the original tractors referenced, it seems that the vast majority have the first style fender pan with the rear light mounting holes present. ENGINE While there should not be any significant variances in the engines used for these tractors by the factory, non-original engines may have been installed to help boost sales of the tractor by the dealerships or to replace a blown motor later in the tractor's life. The correct Tecumseh engine model number used on the "500" Special models is H60-75118H. Since these engines were recoil start only, they should not have holes drilled into the block to mount a starter. This recoil start H60 engine is photographed to show the two starter mounting pedestals that remain untouched (if there was a starter there would be two holes drilled in each of the horizontal mounting pedestals to bolt the starter to the block). The owner's manual also shows the presence of a rear mounted "L" shaped oil drain pipe that would extend outward from the location where the drain plug is pictured, allowing oil to drain out over the right side of the frame when uncapped. Finding a recoil start H60 engine without the starter mounting holes seems to be more difficult than finding one equipped with an electric starter.
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4 pointsAnd having used spray cans successfully for most of my 65 years for projects large and small, I finally realized on my first restoration back in 2010 that something like a tractor must be done differently if you want it to last. For that reason, all of my Wheel Horses are painted for show, and I only use single-stage, acrylic urethane automotive paint.
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4 pointsWhat it all boils down to is how much do you wanna spend and are you capable? If you don't have the equipment to spray automotive paints then you probably don't have the needed experience either... I was taught well over 30 yrs. ago to master painting with a can first before moving onto a spray gun... I don't paint for a living but I can paint either way and when I say that I mean that I can paint one tractor with a gun and automotive paints and another with my preferred brand of spray can and one is going to look as nice as the other.., Anyone can push a button on a spray can but its still going to take some time to master it but spray cans are cheap. If you know what you are doing you can get a flawless finish from a spray can that looks like a body shop painted it. As mentioned,, you won't get the UV protection out of a can but my tractors don't stay outside 24/7. So.... I think when these paint questions come up we need to first determine what the experience level of the person asking is and how much do they wanna spend before any recommendations...
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4 pointsWell we have no way of knowing that now. I agree the latter half of my suggestion may go to far, but as far as not having the media make these monsters into legends that has to stop and I believe even Lennon would agree with that.
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4 pointsGood Luck!- Al http://vid267.photobucket.com/albums/ii284/illinilefttackle/WHEEL%20HORSE/DSCF0023.mp4 First pic+ RUSTOLEUM SUNRISE RED VIDEO-RUSTOLEUM REGAL RED NO CLEAR ON EITHER- just give it a week to really cure- dries to handle overnite
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4 pointsDon't use Majic. In my opinion it is the worst paint made. Just search Majic on this forum for more similar opinions.
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3 pointsThanks Racinbob, i'm not a pro at anything, ask my wife, lol, but if I was a pro it would be for the love of these old machines and those that built them and those that keep them alive. I kind of misunderstood your post, it started when you said "Good luck Al, I thought you were talking to me, but I'm guessing your an Al too, lol. I didn't mean to be disrespectful and I respect your commitment and knowledge. Thanks Al, from Al
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3 pointsOn the older software, we used to have a patriotic theme for occasions like this. Terry @Vinylguy has re-designed the forum logo while the theme developer updates our theme. It came out so nice, I wish that it could stay year round, but I will leave it for special occasions, today in remembrance of Pearl Harbor!
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3 pointsAnd in the long run, we can rejuvenate the picture gallery that is on the main page to offer the links to the specific horses with pictures embedded from members computers and not links from places like Photobucket that we can loose. Kind of like doing 2 things at once.
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3 pointsI just sent off my 20th or so shipment through fastenal. They have been quoting high lately because they have a new automated quoting system since their 3pl traffic has gone up so much. But I have always asked them to double check it if i think its out of line based on my experience and they usually lower it. My last shipment to Maine got cut in half from $150 to $75. Yea if i dont ship from my usual store it can take them a bit longer to figure it out but if I am the one initiating the quote, then I have never once had one go the wrong store. Longest travel time was like 10 days, most get there in less than 6. Heckuva lot cheaper than LTL freight as long as you understand what you are dealing with.
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3 pointsIt will beat it up. I seen one going way less than that and it tore it up but good. I would suggest taking all covering off including the top. leave the frame but everything else off. If you don't take the top off it will catch a lot of wind.
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3 pointsI was in New York City that night taking a lady to a show, it was horrible, the feeling that grows in the pit of your stomach, wondering why someone would do this to a man like this. I never have understood this and I still don't. One of the worst things is that I still remember the guys name that did this, which is why I am against naming these people in the media. The media makes these killers into legends, that is perverse. Their names should never be mentioned and their homes should be bulldozed and their life on earth should be wiped clean.
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3 pointsonly one snow fall up here so far and above freezing,its great,im in construction,concrete and masonry so its been awsome
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3 pointsAn onslaught of snow cabs will be for sale on the classifieds shortly.............. >>>>>>> wishfull thinking. <<<<<<<<< Lol, Glenn
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2 pointsWhat's go'in on anyway. 40 and 50 degree weather in December. Rain yes, snow no. Ice in the morning means a sore rear end and a clear view of the early morning sky...(don't ask me how I know that...) New cab, 2 520H tractors a front blade, a single stage snow blower and green grass..... Gonna put on new LED cab lights and amber LED strobe beacon this week and maybe the mower deck.........
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2 pointsI spotted this family of creatures crossing the field today. Should I be concerned for the horses safety ?
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2 pointsYou're doing fine. We're all here for the love of these little red tractors. Whatever the skill level is of an individual is or his/her limitation by equipment it doesn't matter. We all have fun and appreciate the efforts of others to save a piece of America..
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2 pointsOh Koen, I just go overboard because I love these old machines. I don't mean to be a curmudgeon or ill-mannered. I want to help, but sometimes I should just keep my mouth shut, maybe I should apply some of that oil to my typing fingers
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2 pointsI just had to check......Oklahoma.....I was starting to think about a different state Getting back to the original question, car, you won't be able to get a great match but most likely Rustoleum Regal or Sunrise will be as good as you'll get. If and when you decide to do a full repaint don't hesitate to use rattle cans. Beautiful results can be achieved and, let's face it, we're not painting a classic muscle car. If you go with the top shelf stuff, hats off to you. I love seeing those machines too.
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2 pointsThe 3rd one is the only one I would be worried about, the rest look domesticated.
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2 pointsOr you could wrap the entire cab in duct tape! "If the women don't find you handsome, at least find you handy"! Red Green
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2 pointsMy vote goes to Rustoleum Regal Red. Usually on the shelf at Home "Cheapo". 'Bout $4.00 a rattle can. Holds up well.
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2 pointsI'm thinking that if anyone wants snow, we should start taking blades and blowers off and test Mother Nature. Taunt we may, but will she hit back with a good white storm?
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2 pointsI drilled mine open to 1/4" and use a flat washer and a 1/4" SST hex bolt and nylock nut. Never had a problem. I would think your C clamps will vibrate loose and fall off. If you are lucky, they won't end up in the blower and launched thru a window.
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2 pointsconsidering the amount of time spent on prepping for paint, go with a good quality paint, even if only on the top/outside of the hood. I hear the Eastwood 2-part spray can paints are good, but have not tried them yet. They are pricey, but more like an automotive paint.
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2 pointsHahah! I know. I have no excuse either. I can't figure out why it posts them upside down. The tractor has a M20. Just ordered a louvre red hood, and LSE decals. I'll try this again...
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2 pointsI have a laptop so turning it upside down is easy, but my wife thinks I am looking at a centerfold when I turn it 90*
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2 pointsHOLY FREAKIN COW!!! WHAT NO STATE FARM ETHIOPIAN DOG LICKER BOWL????? I have no idea and may have to quit my job so I'll have time to pick all these games! What the heck, I'll just wing it! Alcorn ST, San Jose St. Zona, Utah, Ohio, Louis anna Tech, S Florida, Akron, Toledo, Boise St. Bowling Green, Middle Ten, Cincy, Marshall, Miami, S Miss, Indiana, V Tech, Nebraska, Navy, Minnesota, AirForce, Baylor, Colorado St. LSU, Auburn, Miss St. Texas AM, USC, Fl St. Clemson, Alabama, N Western, michigan, Ohio St, Iowa, Ole Miss,Georgia, Arkansas, Oregon, West Virginia,
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2 pointsWeather bulletin; It's not going to snow this winter!!! A friend of mine and myself have bought not one but two snowmobiles this fall so I haven't seen anything yet but a couple inches in Montana. I guess I can only hope that will solve any chances of snow!!! Lol
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2 pointsIt is nice to see this day remembered. Regardless of what the govt. says, its as if they want this day to slip into the past. To be forgotten. I stated this last year, and with great pride I will say it again. My father was there that day, a 17 year old kid, from Elizabeth, NJ, stationed aboard the USS PENNSYLVANIA, gunners mate, turret 2. For you pop, and those with you that day. TO ALL VETERANS, I SALUTE YOU, AND I SHALL NEVER FORGET YOUR SERVICE TO OUR GREAT COUNTRY.
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2 pointsI was stationed at Schofield Barracks in the 1970s, with the 25th INF DIV, you could still see the evidence of bullet holes in some of the barracks from the attack. In these days of uncertainty let us not be afraid, but ever vigilant of an attack from enemies that hate America, not because of you and me, but for what she stands for, Freedom and Liberty. As Benjamin Franklin said, “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.” There are people in the world that believe the American people have lost their resolve, and while that may be true of some politicians, let them come here and threaten us and they will see the resolve the American people have.
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2 pointsI'm not complaining, glad to have some decent weather to finish the roof we're building on the most recent project. After that let it snow all it wants to. Another week of good weather and we should have it done.
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2 pointsI'm thinking, everyone here... should set up a couple more 's for snow removal duties. Should really put the run to ol' man winter.