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The Western North Carolina Ag. Center is the venue for the best fall show in the region, I snapped a few shots as I drove around, enjoy. My old "Survivor" 953 was my trustee steed of choice for the day, brought the fancy trailer too. Case, Copar Panzer and Colts were enjoying the sunshine. This one was "Green with Envy" when it saw a Wheel horse coming up. This old Sears was a bit hard to get a good shot of due to the sun, but it was rustier than mine so I figured I better include it. How about a GE Electric, don't see one of them every day. Had a few good looking Allis Chalmers too. This JD with matching honey wagon was too cool, the belt pulley even worked! Had a few other RED tractors too. This nice looking RJ was looking for a new home. This nice Suburban was at the same vendor's site. This freshly painted GT-14 was abandoned in the fleas, couldn't find the owner to get price info. How about a full race Ford 8N? Here is a horse with an attitude, love it! Great Gibson. Freshly built Speedex This Bantam hardly ever stopped moving, the boy driving it was about 9 or 10 and proud as could be. Couple of Panzer Projects. This line up of Cub Originals were all race ready. They were worth a second look. How about a garden tractor powered run about. Sweet little 605, very well done. Love this little hay baler This fellow seems to have more sponsors than a NASCAR racer. I will close with a real "Jim Dandy", hope you enjoyed the show.

Don't know the number, but do know it was not enough!

I put one of these garage-in-a-box up last year. Because I did not have anything covering the dirt, the inside of the tent became a sauna. The humidity got so high that it literally rained inside. I did not realize it until I went out to get something last winter and everything inside was covered with ice. All the cardboard boxes and any papers were ruined, and unprotected steel was rusting. I corrected it this summer by removing everything and putting down heavy plastic to cover the dirt. Then I put a bathroom exhaust fan in the ridge and vented the air out via a 4" duct, similar to how you vent an attic. So far, no moisture this year. The fan uses a couple dollars per month of electricity to run 24 hours per day, but it's worth it. So bottom line is, if you don't want your horse and their accessories to be ruined by moisture, put something down on the ground to seal the moisture. Here is a picture of how I installed the exhaust fan ($13.00 from Lowe's) And here is the heavy-duty black plastic on the ground. It is a one piece installation so I didn't have to tape any seams. It is thick and will take a minimal amount of abuse.

I put my 12x20 Shelter King on a 12x20 pressure treated deck with a plywood floor. I get about 4 years to a top before the UV rays ruin it. The zippered front door finally gave up as well so a wood wall with a door replaced it. Mike..........

I put up an industrial strength tarp top building last year. it is 20' x 30' with 8' high doors. It has 3 or 4 dump truck loads of crushed stone under it. For the first few months it got quite damp inside but that stopped once the ground under it dried out. It seems fine now. Cleat

I like the creative ways you guys put up your garage in a boxes.It gives me some ideas for mine.Hadn't thought of putting plastic down. And Sparky's wooden front panel looks good. Here's a couple of mine that I put up. the first one is from HF and I got it off Craigslist for 75 bucks. I use it to keep the main shop open.I have my 72" finish mower and the Jacobsen sweeper.I use to just tarp them put the HF garage works good for keeping them out of the weather. My second one is Menard's garage in the box. It;s 14 x28 x12. I wanted it so I could put my pontoon in.The toon has an upper deck and was really hard to tarp up after using it on the lake. When I got it home and started putting up I quickly found out it wasn't high enough for toon to get in. Momma was not happy making the purchase and seeing it wouldn't fit. But I wasn't deterred after thinking about I built a wall and set the shed on top. Check it out.

i could not sleep at night knowing i owed someone money. and i'd be embarrassed if i bumped into them or they had to track me down to get payment. but as i get older i have realized that there are many people that do not feel the same way. they think nothing of owing money...many times not due to the inability to pay but they just don't want to pay up. i have a couple "friends" that way

When i asked that question to Cecil Pond at the big show a few years back, he said " i have no idea, but when we made the move to the big factory, once we were in operation, we were crating one tractor every 3 minuets 5 days a week "

I know it's not red, don't yell at me! But, down the street from my house, I found an awesome oddball with a "FREE" sign on it. I approached the house, and found the owner, he said he had it since new used it for 35 of the past 38 years, and that it owed him nothing. It is a 1978 JCPenney 11Hp Garden Tractor. After some research, I have found it is made by Murray, and is the same as a Murray 11/36 or a Sears ST/10 from the same era. It smokes a bit, and needs a carb rebuild, but other than that, it seems to be a really stout little machine. It has a Jacobson plow which the owner fit onto it, and it does have at least weights on it! I may give it some work this winter to keep hours off of the horses!

Finally got a place to put my horses. Its been long over due its just a cheap HF 10×17 carport but I'm happy withit Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk

Production numbers are largely unknown. Build quantities are known for only a few of the smaller run builds, like the 754, the 1045, the 420-LSE and the 520-8. There are some speculative numbers about others based on beginning and ending discovered serial numbers, but at best, they're speculation. There's not likely to be any progress on this either. There is no incentive or justification for Toro to spend company resources (money or time) on mining such trivial information from the hand-written production records that they inherited with the purchase of Wheel Horse. And yes, I've asked that question before to Toro. Just not going to happen. They could give the numbers of their own production from 1986 through the end, but they're not releasing that info either.

I just want to Thank all who are on here, There is unlimited support independently and collectively for have helped me, and others... You all are a priceless bunch who seek nothing more than Wheel Horse pride, I am proud to be a part of this group !! Thank you all, JP 141 God Bless America !!

It's got to be a 702...I get goosebumps when I see one.

I did the same ad Mike. Pictures below. youll get the idea. What a fight. Glenn

Ok Rhubarb pie story. (As best as I can remember) A couple of years ago the ladies at the bus stop/ food kitchen sold some rhubarb pie. Van got a hold of some and was raving about it here on the forum. We made a date to share some together the next year. Well the next year came and they had NO PIE!!!!!!! We were pretty disappointed so I told Van, next year I'll bring a rhubarb pie. I picked up a nice one ( homeade dutch style) from a local mennonite store. All weekend I kept my eyes peeled for Van.He had his son there and I guess he was tied up with the "Joys of Camping" and I didn't see him much. Finally mid afternoon on Friday I spied the rascal across the way and hollered at him and pointed to my cooler. A few minutes later the pie and Cool Whip were flowing!

I think i would have accepted his offer to return the parts and ended the transaction without a loss. Assuming he would finally live up to his word and follow through with the return.

Richard, you're often good for a chuckle! It was that yellow gravel that failed prematurely! Is a nice hitch though!

There was Rhubarb pie???.....and Wow,,,,,,time has passed fast...just 2 years ago.I ran out of gas,,,the guys in the 3rd turn filled me up,,,,I lost a wheel Bob Maynard Saved my weekend with a wheel stud kit...(thanks Bob)) oh,,,and Bobs bucking Horse........Took a class from John Wallfish,,,on the applied science's of a belt gaurd...Wild Bill the Master of ceromonies,,,kept the day moving.. Between Mike Sqonk and Steve asaurus...keeping an accounting of events as they would unfold.....Jake Kuhn.him self..as Featured in a nationally published magazine ,,,,Dont forget Bill Jenkins.....My first Wheel Horse encounter.....a very good person to know if you need a horse part,,,,,,!!!!!! So where was i..??? Oh Rhubarb pie....=).

Very nice! I have a 12' X 20' "garage in a box" too! This will be the 3rd winter for mine, and I haven't had a problem, but we don't get the massive snows like folks in the NE. I heard to replace the covering with one of those vinyl billboard advertisement deals....They hold up pretty good, and are often cheap. Hey, soon after the elections, I bet you could pick up a bunch of these....have to turn 'em inside out, but what the heck!

Back in early July, I sold some Choremaster parts to a fellow that worked the same place as I do. He said he couldn't pay right then, but would pay in in 2 installments "in a couple of weeks". I agreed and didn't worry about it. Well, about 2 months went by and I didn't see the guy at work anymore so I inquired and found that he had quit. Well, I got nervous because he either didn't have a "land-line" or he had an unlisted number, so calling him was out. I did manage to get his address from a good friend that is an EMT/Fire Fighter in that part of the county. I sent the guy a certified letter stating I was upset he hadn't paid me or contacted me. I gave him 30 days or I would file a small claims against him. Well, he didn't accept the certified letter, so I was back to not being able to contact this guy. I have had to file against people before and I know you need documentation that you tried normal ways to collect a bill. I did find out his cell number from someone that he had worked with so I called him. Wouldn't you know it, he screens his calls and didn't answer. I left a message to call me ASAP to discuss the payment for parts. Another month goes by and he still didn't respond. I called again today and low & behold, he answered. He was all jolly and happy I called cause he was just thinking about me and didn't know how to get ahold of me, bla bla bla.... When I stated I was upset for "non-payment", he said "Oh I thought we were good and I had plenty of time to pay"! He stated he couldn't pay now, but would brings the parts back. I thought NO, we made a deal and I wanted the parts paid for! I thought of a minute and asked if I dropped the price could he pay in a week, and he said sure.... Time will tell, but I feel a big "screwing" coming! Thanks for letting me get off my chest, because knocking him in the head probably wasn't a good idea.

I bought this several years ago, and just shoved it back in the corner, saying it would be my next project. Well, there have been several since then, but this is the year to get-er-done! It was purchased from the original owners son who had attempted to make it electric start. Fortunately he didn't cut anything and only made a few holes. I have since removed all the additions and tried in vain to make it run with the tilliston carb. So I installed a carter and borrowed a part from one of those green ones, and now have a good runner with air cleaner. Seat if funky like most and the like most the hood needs a little work a the bottom front. I did remove all the steering linkages, and replaced the fan gear which had a tooth missing, it had also been broken at the roll pin. Removed all the parts cleaned, everything applied locktite and new roll pins, steering now is as new. I do not intend to paint it, just a little more cleaning and maybe a seat along with repairs to the hood. Almost forgot, as it has the two piece tank, that had been welded to make the leaks go away, the tank looked nothing short of awful, so I replaced the it too. Enjoy. David

Bert and Linder were great hosts and made everyone feel right at home. If you couldn't make it this year hope you make the next one.

Not one person said anything about the extra long hood? almost looks to have about a 4" section added at the nose, as for the rest of the tractor 99% sure it's a 702 even has the correct no bump starter/gen belt guard, I'd like more pics of the hood

OK thats it,,,,Craig has a bowl of goodness,,,,,,Mike waitin for the next Bus in from Dodge........... So,,,next year,,,,,I will bring ,,,,1 deep dish.Apple home made pie,,,,,forks,,,bowls in the cooler.....Mums the word And Road Apples......your right,,,the funny looking wheels are gonna be on the ALL WRONG 401..... Let Stevasourus,know ,,,yes we did see the mug in his hand at the Meet and Greet,,,( hot coffee ) we know.... News as it unfolds....film at 11

You woke up just in time Hodge.

Yeah Boy, Mike really came through for me this year at the Big Show!!! The steady rain (sometimes we had downpours) was no match for Mike's Rhubarb pie and all that rain and soggy ground combined could not take the smile off my face after the first forkful of fine dessert went straight into my piehole

I used a bearing separator to grip the steering wheel metal hub and a big honkin gear puller to grip the bearing separator to get the wheel off of my 1267. The roll pin was seized in the shaft so I had to shear that as well. Should have took pics. I had to raise the wheel and extend the steering shaft so the wheel would clear the hood.

Steve, that is a first class hitch you have made, two attachment points, very nice idea. Your new driveway hasn't held up very well.

Don't forget Joe Pa!!! The man has done it all, what 209 or something like that!! This might be a touchy subject to some but I really don't think he knew anything about the idiot! Not a fan really but I think he needs to be acknowledged

Bob, I not only got some seat time, I have also been spending a lot of time in the wood work shop and this morning I put on my own socks, all by myself! May not sound like much to a lot of people but it has taken me four months since the back surgery to get that amount of flexibility. I will be attending the Western NC Meet and Greet tomorrow and will make a point of having someone take my picture "getting Seat Time".

http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/topic/56566-this-years-show/ Pict is courtesy of Lane Ranger...2015 Show Picture thread.

Just put on a 4x3/4 750 psi rubber from a place called calrubber on snow blade. It was not looking good to plow my rocky road cuz blade would catch and dig up baseball size rocks. Ran this up same place 30 foot or so and it seems better than I hoped. rubber not even scuffed much. Plus you can see wear bar was needing flipped long ago.

Of course it is possible to put a 10 pinion, limited slip differential/ trany in that horse. The #5073 would be the best choice because the brake linkage would fit with no modifications...and it may not be hard to find. I don't know if you would solve your problem with one though. It is not really a posi-traction, like a Pontiac, but it will help with what you are trying to do. What may be better...put a good hitch on the front of that horse. It is easier to push and pull something like a vehicle around. Maybe the hitch and the #5073 is where you will end up.

Dennis, the 701 and 702 and 62-63 Lawn Rangers also had that style gas tank, and the 633 was Kohler powered. (It used a unique updraft Tillotson carb) The 701 and 702 were also Kohlers. In the pictures it appears that it has the separate dash plate on the fuel tank which would have been consistent with the 62 models. My money is on it being a 702 with a scrounged belt guard. They were the same part number.

...and this has already been repainted at least once in it's previous life, saving it's original paint/patina is already out of the question. Which means, doing a restoration repaint at this point, wouldn't be a bad thing.

You will not regret replacing the new chain and idlers. Cheap insurance. I hate working on tractors and snow blowers in January with 16 inches of snow on the ground, 10 degrees and 30 knot wind. Anything I can do to prevent that is well worth the effort. Kurt

Neat machine, even if it's not a ... wonder, is it Techy powered Tom?

An early K181 should have a pulse (vacuum) fuel pump. I'm putting my money on the diaphragm being bad, or one of the one-way valves is stuck. They are easy to take apart to clean and inspect, and if you need a new diaphragm, buckrancher has them.

With the 12 second run time, I tend to agree with Slammer here. Take off the air filter and spray some carb clean down the throat and then start...maybe do a few times. If Mike is right...take the line off between the fuel pump and the carb and crank the engine to see if fuel squirts out in spurts. Tapping the carb is always the 1st thing to do if it's the float or float valve. If you don't..... mix some SeaFoam in your gas can for the tractors...it really helps keep them clean, stable and moisture free.

Yes, or both...usually have to scroll through many posts to find what ya need...Maybe one of our administrators can develop a new section ??

on mine i have plastic down , then 3" of crushed rock on the floor.... haven't had any moisture problems

I would put the plastic under the gravel

Hopefully going to make it to the show , meet all of you great people . Words can't describe how much this group has helped me out. With my physical disabilities not being able to fix of drive any of my tractors myself , it's like rehab for my brain. It's on my bucket list for sure ! Maybe next summer if I can talk the wife into it I could host a meet and greet at my house . I only have 3 acers , but if I time it right there's a hay field next to me for you boys with sicklebars , and enough property behind the pole barn to play in the dirt.

Am I the only one here that composts leaves, clippings and kitchen waste?

Shoulda been at Scott's meet and greet JP! That's pretty much what went on for the entire day

Well no wonder I had so many problems. As I recall, oil was 20 cents a quart and I cheapened out!

This is the kind of "What Wheel Horse is it" discussion that I love. Not only an answer but lots of details as to why! What the differences are! This is great guys! Thanks! Now my 2 cents to you, RedRidingHorse, do NOT do a complete restore! (Gadds that was hard for an old autobody/painter to say!) Keep the original patina! Clean it up, sure! But no sandblasting! NO! And very limited painting! And for you other guys that know so much more than I do about these treasures, what's all that stuff hanging off the front end? I read plow, but that's different than what I expected! And I know what a slot hitch is, but what's that other thing? That an OEM hitch? The seat? And back rest? Was this their "1960 Cadillac"?

Nice looking horse, great to see you want to keep her in the family. I would keep her original , repair and install original motor. Enjoy what your Dad left for you. And from a fellow Minnesotan.

I`m sure no one else on here has a messy shed. Seriously though, Dad left you a nice little tractor with some nice attachments. I agree with the original engine. The guys on hear can help with parts and rebuild. I think the brush is part of the leaf collector. Welcome to Red Square and good luck.

Hi Brian, Looks like you are making great progress on your single stage. I just finished my 2-stage and faced the same questions. I'm sure there are lots of options, but this is what I did. Wire brushed with an angle grinder to remove all the loose rust and paint. Sanded with a random-orbital sander to feather the paint as best I could. I touched up with a ro-loc scrotch-brite pad in an angle die grinder and a small cup brush in a battery powered drill to get into corners. That got everything fairly good, but its lots of work. I then coated everything with phosphoric acid (Etch and Prep or Phos-etch). This converts all the rust in the pits to iron phosphate which will take paint well. It also etches the bare metal to give the paint some tooth. The rinse with water and allow to dry. I primed with Rustoleum rusty metal primer. Top coated with two or three coats of Valspar IH Red mixed with harder and thinned a bit. I used an HF HVLP gun. I love this paint, but its getting harder to get (try Amazon). An added bonus is that this paint sets up quickly. I paint outside, so that minimizes bugs. I'm sure there are other options, but this is what I did. I have done this approach with 2 tractors and single stage. All are holding up well. Kurt