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I never thought I would get one of these! Also bought a 520H with 91 hours!

I like this saying, ( If you have something bad to say about a farmer, don't talk with your mouth full. )

I got a Wheel Horse for my grandson, age 7½, since he has outgrown his powerwheels. It is a Ranger 800 and since it was in the garage beside my C125 I thought to take a few pics for comparison. It's had to believe that the Ranger is 10 years older than the C125. 1973 Ranger and 1983 C125.

Im probly going to be picking up a 520h with loader wheel weights, agg tires and weight box tomorrow. I'm just curious what you guys think. The good: Tractor runs good no smoke, knocking, doesn't bog. Hydraulics work as they should houses not cracked no leaks, very responsive hours arn't to bad at 850, The bad: It was stored outside so its not pretty paint on hood is faded, tires have some dry rot. PTO clutch lever pops up and the clutch disengages if you hold the lever down it works fine. The loader assembly is a bit sloppy and has some play, and there is some squealing when the bucket is curled down. Overall it's 20+ years old so I don't expect it to be pretty. Price is around $1700 What do you guys think? Thanks

This has been a long time coming, but I think with snow season close...I will be loving this new driveway. I got to use the horses a little...like getting all the plants off the concrete, getting out the edging, and taking up the patio blocks. Time to rip it all up. Freddie Time for gravel. They let me try spreading with the horse when they took a break. It would have taken a lot longer. They start them out young. We had home made Tamales for lunch one day. They were fantastic. :) Time for the concrete. Finished and landscaped Put the patio back in and start unloading all the plants. Thanks for looking...19 yards of concrete. I can't wait to move snow off of it this year. We probably will not get any.

Drain the tank and clean it and install a new fuel line shut off valve (and bushing) in the tank. This is in addition to changing the fuel line and Seafoam use as Richard suggested. Make sure the engine fins are not clogged and the engine breather may need cleaning as well. Check the condition of the two 9 pin connectors (one goes to the engine, the other is up high behind the battery). They are prone to developing open circuits due to resistive (I^2R) heating at the connections. You can get replacements from Bob Maynard here on RS. Also, check the fuse holder, another location for open circuits also due to I^2R heating and well as proximity to the rear cylinder. All of these open circuits are the result of corrosion on the copper alloys. The WH engineers could have used tin plated wire and terminals on all electrical connections, but for some strange reason they did not. Enjoy your Onan. I like mine, but I also like the simplicity of Kohlers

I don't know if it is ok to post this here but some sad news for us collectors. Bowtie, a Chevy man and fellow Wheel Horse collector passed away last month! He lived close by me here in Ohio, in Gahanna. Don't know if anybody else knew him but he had some nice stuff and it all got dispersed around. Thanks...Hammerhead

There are SO many reasons this time of year is special. It's the time to transition from Summer Wheel Horses to Winter Duty. It is also the time when 2 major forum events happened. November 14, 2006 - RedSquare was started by whchris on a free service called Forumer, anyone remember whforum.15.forumer.com October 31, 2011 - We abruptly moved from Forumer to our current home. I often go back and look at the posts from those times and while RedSquare is so different today then it was then, there are STILL many of the same people here who helped make this what it is today. So at this important time of the year, as you get your machines ready for the new season, Thank You for being a member of RedSquare, it's been a heck of a ride and still going!

Hello, I just bought my first Wheel Horse this past weekend. My brother-in-law new i needed a mower and found it through a friend. He educated me a little on Wheel Horses and told me this was a good buy. I paid 500 for the tractor and it also came with a trailer and a bagging system. I've got to go back and get the bagger this weekend. I'm starting to research my Horse to find out all i can. I know this is the '89 model. I'm looking for advice on maintaining and a little restoration. This thing has been sitting in a garage for two years. It started right up and ran for a while, but then shut off. I drained the gas and i'm gonna replace the fuel filter. It ran great before it shut off, no smoke, no noises, blades engaged and ran fine. I'm excited about this tractor and i'm looking forward to learning all i can about it.

been here a while,i do remember the orig format,and the big crash,but here we are and we need to thank all the people who keep the square running,thanks guys ,u guys are A1

I have always preferred a manual transmission,less parasitic power loss.

Welcome! As a fellow newbie, I can attest to Digger 66's comment - this forum is great for all things WH! great group of people with excellent advice... I would recommend becoming a supporter too. Just go to the "store" and click support. It's worth it... Enjoy!

I think most of us would agree that you should keep both of them. A 12 HP Kohler will run a snow blower with no problem and I have a personal preference for a rear discharge deck but that is just my opinion. Kohlers will last for ever, but the Brigs has been operating for 30 years +/- so you can't say it isn't durable. As you said, hydro and lift are great to have, guess you need to keep both!

Power Kings Kohlers are a special breed and a certain Spec# and other Kohlers just won't bolt up to the cast bell housing (similar to a car or truck with a flywheel. pressure plate, throw out...) and they are getting harder to find. I have had two of those rebuilt. Other Kohlers were bought while still sitting in the tractor. Just seems cheaper to buy a whole tractor than to rebuild an engine.

because that is the 520 that's in the bed i think, the 420 is on a trailer

I was just about to post that both of my attempts were no improvement over plain incandescent bulbs, but maybe $17 each would be! Gadds! From link below: A standard 1156 bulb puts out about 400 lumens when new. As of January 2010, I haven't found an LED replacement that puts out any more, and most are only 50 lumens or so, not enough for a standard 1156 housing.To confirm the above: From Bosch Automotive Handbook7th ed. a 1156 (BA15S) Stop/Turn 21W bulb puts out 460 lumens. For a 5W Side marker / Tail BA15S it is 50 lumens (strangely low, I know) and 10W Tail light 125 lumens. http://www.answers.com/Q/How_many_lumens_for_an_led_replacement_vs_stock_1156_bulb So these 800 lumen LEDs should be rather impressive! Price certainly is! Hey! Just noticed the price is indeed for a pair! I just ordered from Amazon!

When welding aluminum cleaning the area is very important. Take the engine apart prior to welding. Drill the end of the cracks to prevent further cracking and v-out the crack area. Depending on the material the metal may need to be preheated also.

Whoa nelly, are these your real picks or your pencil in picks??? Don't want to hear that excuse!! The Ka Sara bus left weeks ago!!! Did Koen save you any brewskies or donuts?? I think Jim said they were running low on just about everything, you better stock up. The basement without munchies is the pits!!! It's not very far to go before you won't be able to touch the top. Just think your favorite buds will be hanging out at the top going, Where's Dino???? As always, Go Hawkeyes!!!

I don't own a shop but here's the problem. Any place that overhauls an engine has to GUARENTEE it. Most shops don't have a complete machine shop so they send out the block,crank ect to be checked. The machine shop has to GUARENTEE it. So it's $$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!! We don't want to pay it. Many of us here and you have all seen the posts, open an engine, look at the bore -looks good and throw in some rings and maybe new valves and put it back together and it runs and we're happy and saved some money. The reality is, we don't really know how worn that engine is. Example: I bought a C-160 non runner a couple of years ago. It had carb issues so the guy parked it. I wanted to rebuild the motor as a spare for my current 160. I opened it up and things looked good. I took it to a friend of mine who builds kart engines for an opinion. He said the bore was out of round and needed boring and the crank was out of round and was all ready .010 undersized. Rod had numerous cracks which showed up on dye. He called a friend of his that does his machine work. I brought everything to him to double check. Crank couldn't be turned again. And bore was near limits and may need to be sleeved. Total estimate with machine work and parts was $700! That's not including gaskets or any reassembly labor. Remember this was a motor that to the naked eye of a guy that has been a mechanic for 30 yrs. looked good!

Not necessarily... in that order. More like... muggies and the Cubs.

Hmmm... Five hours later and no response. I wonder what Steve's doing right now. CUBBIES AND THE MUG!!!!!!!!

I purchased replacement 1156 led bulbs which fit into the sockets on my 68 Commando from Autozone

Been here less than a year, but I've been a member on enough other sites...tractors, atvs, snowmobiles, cars.... to know this is one of the best out there. So much information, such great people, very nicely run. Great site.

I need to know 4 things: What is the yellowish stuff? Why isn't there a closeup of the custom front hitch? It's design and perhaps a Sketch Up link? Who is the little fellow doing all the work? Who is the guy on the round hood dominating several of the shots? Oh! And tell the little guy, "Nice job!"!

Hmmm... Five hours later and no response. I wonder what Steve's doing right now.

RIP Bowtie

Haven't got this picture posting down yet . Pics got out of order. I have 2 702's should be able to make a super nice 702 still missing gen flywheel cover,fuel pump stock coil . I have enough tin for one and it's all really strait. Couldn't make it to the rest of the RJ . I know the last one not the right color but if I could have one tractor it would be an AC D21. Couldn't get around my sons truck with my wheelchair . Here's the hoods. My cousin had a pic of the RJ from the add in which we bought it from. He's most likely a member , he had at least 25 tractors most of them early round hoods.

I saw the Ranger under a porch this spring. I went to visit an old Wheel Horse collector and he showed me his horses. He had 7 there at his house and a few someplace else. Well, he passed away this summer and his son asked me if there was anything I wanted. I told him about the little one under the porch. We settled on a price of $150. It's not NOS .... probably looks that way because everything above the frame is plastic. (grille, hood, console and rear fenders) No rust on any of those parts! Some of the frame and footrests have been repainted. And the motor is not original. I had to put points in the motor and clean and adjust the carb. The steering needed tightened up. Clutch and brake did not work. But it's all getting better. Ummmm ..... plow and chains??? I could get done in ½ the time! There is a mowing deck for the Ranger ....... Grandson mowing ...... possibly. But dragging the wagon around would be more fun.

Not sure the best place to post this but... If you have to replace the needle bearing in your PTO bell and its seal here are some numbers. The Bearing is WH #106769 (formerly 6662) about $20. It is a Koyo J-2420 about $10. 1.1/2" ID 1-7/8" OD 1-1/4" width The seal WH #6663 SKF # 14810

Just get that main jet good should fix ya right up

#40 roller chain wrapped around the center of turf tires and it only cost about $20 - $25. (10ft piece with 2 master links) You can deflate the tires to easily remove them if needed. Might not be a good idea on a nice concrete surface but I use them on asphalt.

They have that "Yellow" gravel in PA at that pit along the road from Chambersburg to the show.

"125 on both cylinders." That is one healthy ONAN although carbon build up may increase compression. Often cleaning the carb on the tractor will work. The particles from the Ethanol can prevent the float needle from working properly causing surging. Last one I cleaned had a tablespoon full of particles in the float bowl. The Ethanol absorbs moisture from the air and then particles precipitate out and monkeys up the carb. I would recommend getting a replacement carburetor so you can simply swap and go. You can remove the carburetor with a crows foot wrench. Then learn how to clean the carb or take it to a shop. Those carbs hate Ethanol. Use only pure gas if you can find it. Stabilizers or additives do not not seem to cure the Ethanol disease for my ONANs. I only use pure gas and I do add some SeaFoam (a/k/a snake oil) just in case.

Not sure what this post is about? The bike or you? Either way I like the bike!

Looks... expensive.

Steve that looks pretty nice. So nice you may want to try these and give us a report of how they handle the good old lake effect snow there in Chicagoland. After working that old driveway for so long, is your blade level enough to work on that new flat surface?

Here ya go. This is the first one of this style I've done. I may order another decal and do it again but I know you wanted to see it. The bottom of the dash is straight. I butted it up against a straight edge so I could do the same with the decal which would help getting it on square. Working from the bottom up with a plastic card I made sure it was tucked in to the horizontal center area. Once it was on I saw that it was a bit oversize and trimming was required on the top and sides. Doing it again I would overlap the bottom just a little and trim all the way around. That would drop the 'Depress clutch when starting' down and get it away from the generator light plug as well as lowering the wording so it would center on the ridge better. I'm thinking it may have been made a bit large and intended to be trimmed. Maybe Terry will chime in here.

Is that an umbrella mount on the back of the plow tractor???

More like calendar material .

Ahhh.... I remember...... The old campground..... and then I remember

Was that NOS??? LOL, really its a sweet looking little Wheel Horse, just right for a young grandson

Yes, Mikes tutorial is good and can really spruce up your panel. Hah! but I tried it and made a mess of it! found pretty quicky it takes a STEADY hand! and my old creaky 75yr old nerves just wouldnt cooperate, but, I coaxed my son into trying it and it turned out NICE.

So it's been a while since I've posted an update...I got it running and driving last summer/fall, only to find out that third gear was slipping. This spring I dug in to the trans and replaced the hi/2nd gear, along with some bearings and seals. Finally got everything back together and it runs great. Only thing left now is the wiring. Also, the deck and blade need to be refinished, but I'm in no hurry as I don't plan on using them. Here are a few pictures of how it sits today...

Wonderful pictures so far, this years calendar should be great! :dunno:

1961 551 Suburban

Nice day for a wheelhorse pic.

The Puller A few Plowing