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I do have some more "vintage" footage of the old tractor owned by my dad. I just uploaded a video from a home movie, taken with regular 8mm film, probably in 1964. I am the little tyke driving it in the video, my older brother Jack started it up for me. This was taken in Emsworth, Pennsylvania, a suburb of Pittsburgh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKbB4oTky2s&feature=youtu.be I'll take some current pictures of my uncles wheelhorse next and post them maybe tomorrow.

I have owned 2 old wheelhorse tractors for about 20 years now, that were originally owned by my dad and uncle, and I'm finally ready to part with them. I have questions about their value and the best approach to finding the right buyer. I am located in St. Paul, MN Wheelhorse 1: Was owned by my dad, acquired around 1961-2. I think it is a Suburban model, not sure. Engine was replaced with more current Briggs 7hp. steering wheel replaced, head light added, other modifications to go with an electric-start engine that was on it in the 70s. I'm currently trying to get this one fully functional, (I have the mowing deck) but the Briggs has no spark and having trouble getting that fixed. Am I wasting my time on the Briggs? (Will any buyer immediately yank the engine and replace it with an original 4hp Koehler?) I'm thinking this one might be worth around $300 if I get it fully functional and cleaned up...not sure if that is a pipe dream, considering it has so many non-original modifications to it? In the attached pictures, it is the one with the family around it (that picture was taken in 1963) and the one with the blue seat (picture taken 9-21-15) Wheelhorse 2: Was owned by my uncle, I think he bought it brand new around 1959 or 1960? I think it might be an RJ. It is mostly original, but also not running. I hope to get it running also. It has a mower deck as well, and original tires, I have not seen any other wheelhorses of this vintage with those front tires. I'm thinking with this one being more original with a Koehler engine on it, maybe it is worth more than the other one, though I'm not sure on that, and it probably depends on me getting it operational. In the pictures below it is one the man (my uncle) riding it and looking at the camera, with the silver fish on the cabin behind it. (I think the picture was taken in August, 1960.) If anyone wants to contact me about these I can be reached at farmerie@yahoo.com. Otherwise, I'm just interested in hearing opinions on what I should do to maximize their value and make them visible to whoever would want them the most....also wondering what I can hope to get for them.

The first attempt happened just as the forum crashed for a minute. Admins can delete it, hopefully. I got tired of renting trailers, so I finally broke down and got one of the Harbor Freight DIY trailers. Turns out they will take the 20% off coupon on it. I was surprised, they won't take it for most expensive stuff It's coming along nicely. I also bought a welder and found out I suck at it as bad as I did in school.

These were all part of a big collection I had a few years back. Hope you enjoy the pics.

If this won't work there is no hope!

Here is what I run all year. They are great in the snow with wheel weights and no chains. Mike...........

If you decide you don't want it, let me know, I'll drive down and get it.

I think the first picture with the family around it has value, at least to me! There aren't many original pictures of the late 50's early 60's pictures around, at least not as good as yours. I would never have of thought the 58/59' RJs hoods would have such a smooth glossy finish as the picture shows when they were new. Thanks for posting it.

I wouldn't worry too much about getting either of them running to sell... true collectors of these little round hoods are concerned with originality, more than anything else. As far as selling them, I think you've come to the right place, right here on once our members see them, they'll pretty much, sell themselves. Have anymore of these vintage photo's to post up here... they contain a lot of good info, lot's to learn from them...thank you for posting them.

I have a chance to buy a 520xi with mower deck and push blade for $600. I have not physically seen the tractor yet, just a pic. The seller claims there are no known issues besides flat front tire. What do you all think is this a good deal or not?

Makes me wonder if its too good to be true??

It is a great price, almost too cheap. but maybe the owner just doesn't know what he has

I plan to celebrate this Bears season by not watching a single, painfull second of them. If management doesn't care, why should I? Catch more fish, cut more wood, play with my tractors. The Cubs will score more runs than the Bears score points in October. With the first pick of the 2016 NFL draft, the Chicago Bears select...

With "The Summer that Wasn't" due to my accident and losing my buddy, Mrs. Sailor and I are going to be good to ourselves after all the recent trials and tribulations. It's a 7-day cruise from Quebec City to Boston. This is from the web, the Veendam in Quebec City where we will embark. It will feel good to be back at sea again!

Can someone tell me what year this tractor is , no motor but looks like all the parts are there , model # T656 , serial # 255638 , and what size motor was in this

Do yourself a favor and replace the chain and idler sprockets now. That thing is probably 20-30 years old. Looks to be in good shape. A few bucks now should spare you a lot of aggravation in February. I've never heard of equipment failing at a convenient time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Are you saying that DA BEARS are going to bring in Tebow??? I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE IT. IF I SAID WHAT I REALLY WANT TO SAY HERE...I WOULD BE CROSSING THE LINE. WHAT DON'T DA BEARS UNDERSTAND?? IT IS NOT THE OFFENSE...IT IS THE DEFENSE THAT IS OUT TO LUNCH. I COULD THROW THE BALL WITH THIS OFFENSE...IT IS THE DEFENSE THAT IS NOT SHOWING UP. THESE GUYS NEED TO FIGURE OUT IF THEY WANT TO PLAY "PRO" FOOTBALL OR JUST LIVE IN THEIR COLLEGE ATMOSPHERE WHERE THEIR COLLEGE EDUCATION IS TO LEARN HOW TO TURN OFF THE LIGHTS IN THE GYM. ONE OTHER THING...THESE COLLEGE GUYS GOT THE TIGER BY THE TAIL AND THEY ARE GETTING ARRESTED FOR FELONY CHARGES...LOOKING FOR THE DALLAS COWBOYS TO PICK THEM UP?? THEY CAN ONLY CARRY SO MANY FELONY GUYS. IS IT GLOBAL WARMING??...OR JUST STUPID PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE A BUCK AND JUST DO NOT GET IT. I AM WORRIED THAT COLLEGE AND PROS...AND HIGH SCHOOL (FOR THAT MATTER) HAVE GOT CAUGHT UP IN THE FRENZY OF "BS"...IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY...AND SOMEBODY IS REAPING IN THE BENEFITS OF THESE KIDS. NORTHWESTERN STUDENTS KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON AND TRIED TO CHANGE THINGS IN COURT...I THINK THEY DID NOT GET A FAVORABLE OUTCOME...THEY WERE TRYING TO OVERCOME BIG MONEY. OK...IT IS A TINDER BOX, AND EVERYONE HAS AN OPINION. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE MONEY IS RUINING THE SPORT...LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN TEXAS HIGH SCHOOL WHERE THEY BLIND-SIDED TACKLED THE REF...WTF. IT IS COMING TO A HEAD AND THE NFL AND THE NCAA AND WHAT IS GOING ON IN HIGH SCHOOLS...IT IS STARTING TO HAPPEN. YOU KNOW WHAT...IS THERE A PURE SPORT OUT THERE ANYMORE??? I DO NOT KNOW...MAYBE GOLF...BUT THERE IS A TON OF MONEY THERE ALSO. NOT EVEN CHESS WOULD MAKE THE GRADE...HOW ABOUT PULLED PORK, BARBECUE...I DOUBT THAT IS A PURE SPORT EITHER. IS EVERYTHING CORRUPT??? I AM STARTING TO THINK SO.

The pics and video are great. I'm gonna have go through the old family photos now. I know there are some WH pics in there!

Should do the trick. That looks like they revised the old lap band diet... to a new, improved neck band version.

It looks to be a 1998 with a 48" deck. If it runs, make sure that the temperature gauge doesn't move into the "Red." The front bumper valance is commonly found broken. Pricey to replace but it is just for looks. A deflated tire is no big deal.

Hard to beat the cool factor of a little red round hood... running a set of dual ags in the rear. If you ultimately do decide to go the dualie route... I'm pretty sure, you'll be making your's...the happiest kid on the block.

Scott, I would like a large. Since you won't deal with PayPal, Stevasaurus has graciously agreed to pay you and pick it up for me.

This help you out?

Impromtu bushing driver worn bushing curling them out ... go for the worn side and they peel out like tin foil .....thanks for the tip Jake Starting to work on the the axle flip (Thanks Florida Bob) ....could this be the source of the metal chips?? Should I be worried and look for a new gear about this or run as is?? Keep in mind this Suburban will probalbly not be a worker.... just a show piece

Welcome aboard the Red Square "Box" Train! lol thats deep right there.

Welcome aboard.

Nice looking

I am really glad I found you guys , in the short time I have been on here I have found all kinds of info and cool stuff

Glad you found us.

As Craig has said, a few current photos and a bit of information and they will find a new home. It is cool to have vintage photos and a lot of history on the . That won't add much economic value, but it makes them more interesting to the buyer. Presuming the photos are of both tractors, they are both RJs. If that big headlight resulted in a big hole being cut in the front of the hood it would detract from the value, a good hood to replace it would run $100 or more. If that is the case you may have trouble getting $ 300, wrong engine, wrong steering wheel and a cut hood is a lot to get beyond. Go ahead and post adds for both of them in the for sale section and state a price OBO and see what kind of interest you generate; too far for me to drive or I would be interested in both.

That would be Jake Kuhn. Send him a PM and he may be able to help you out.

Mig is the way to go, arc is good for thicker material. If the metal is to thin or burns through you can stitch weld .

I got one of those $100 flux core mig welders. I figure if I find out I can't weld, then I'm not out much. I think my problem was the diameter of wire that came with the welder was too small for the thickness of what I was trying to weld. Bought a thicker roll today, and will practice on some scrap when I find some time. And I thought you bought an arc welder. Good luck with your flux core welder they are great to have around the shop. No, I thought I might do better with the mig. My last attempt at arc welding (as a teenager) I burned through and ruined the wagon my shop teacher was building

Go get it!

Inspect the washer on top of the cam plate, mine was in two pieces. I assume someone tightened it too tight.

Well, now just load it up with new to you Wheel Horses! My first welds weren't pretty either! The absolute worst welds I've ever seen were by a friend who had been welding for decades! There is NO way yours could look that bad! He claims none ever broke and I suppose if you use 10 lbs where 2 or 3 sticks should have been enough... Well, like I said, he's a friend... A few pointers, don't try to weld anything at first. Just strike and stop arcs. Then strike an arc and try to lay a pretty bead on a single piece of 1/8" or so plate. Take your time, no pressure since there is no weld required! Look into the molten pool and play with it. Build it up, then sort of pull it with you. Don't worry about welding anything! Just play with the puddle/pool of molten metal. Then try to make a good looking bead. Learn what too much heat does and then too little. Too little will just build molten metal on top of your plate. Too much will undercut and perhaps burn through. Don't freak out about burning through! Means you had a weld and lost it! Do freak out about not having enough heat! You never had a weld in the first place! Practice and expect to burn through several pound of rod! Somewhere along the way you need to learn about rods, size, amps and base material thickness. Lot's a variables but you will catch on. If you can fix PCs you can weld! You didn't learn about about PCs in a couple of evenings! Difference is that welding is lots of variables and experience. Lot's of stuff with computers is Go/Not GO! Right or wrong! Welding has lots of gray areas...

That video is just incredible! It's the only original one I've ever seen. Thank you or posting it.

Yes sir, I can't wait until Next week when they start Conference play. There will be some head banging for sure. Kind of scary this week because my picks have already been posted. I'm gonna take the following teams. Not my fault if they look familiar. Rutgers, Michigan, Michigan State, Nebraska, Bowling Green, Indiana, West Virgina, IOWA, Minnesota, Ohio State, Penn State, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin and Notre Dame. You have to say the kid from Toledo did a decent job!!! As always, Go Hawkeyes!!!!!

I'd go ahead and look for a new gear so I could sleep easy at night. No telling what condition the remaining teeth are in, could be similar damage waiting to let loose. Penetrant test might help ease your mind some. I always fall back on trying to do it right the first time because I don't have time to do it a second time.

Finally got to watch some of the 2nd half of Sunday's game. Pack defense came out with their big boy pants on the first half. Then came out in the 3rd in just their thongs. Had to go back and put them on to close out the Sea Buzzards. Hats of to Donnie Barclay for a decent job at Tackle. Great to see Sherman getting burnt. Injuries suck. Colts are a mess. Looks like they gave up already. Best thing about that is a co-worker who is a Queenie fan picked the Colts in the Super Bowl (Super Bowl in Squonkese is actually Superb Owl)

Rutgers, Michigan, Michigan St. Nebraska, Bowling Green, Indiana, West Virginia, Iowa, Minn, Ohio St., Penn St, Illinois, Northwesten, Wisc, Notre Dame

Not much that can fail in it. Clean and pack wheel bearings and should be pretty much good to go.

Aaaargh, talk like a Puddle Pirate! Actually this ship weighs 57,092 Gross Tons compared to the 2,592 Gross Tons the CG cutters that Bob and I sailed on. I even sailed halfway around the world on mine, and entered the Domain of the Golden Dragon while doing it. This should be smooooth sailing, comparatively.

I have been using the big blower for the last few years and it works OK. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLD3i50lwg8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58ZHCjooEww The skids on it are quite long but it is heavy (over 500 pounds). so as long as the ground is frozen it works good. My old Ford LGT165 with 2 stage blower was very good at gliding over the ground with it's two large springs that took all the weight off, However that did make it ride up and over packed snow. I have not used a Wheel horse blower yet so I will know better by next spring. The big blower will likely still get used most due to the heated cab. Drawback to that unit is facing backwards. I will try the factory wheels on the single stage but may look into larger wheels like Squonks. I assume if larger wheels are added then the axle will need to to be moved up.

With these picks obviously one week is all I can stand at the top. Rutgers, Michigan, Michigan State, Nebraska, Bowling Green, Indiana, West Virgina, Iowa, Minnesota, Ohio State, Penn State, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Notre Dame

This is my "down & dirty" D-160 work horse. Used almost exclusively for pulling yard trailer and dragging logs etc. I have some hilly areas and before ags with turfs I was constantly spinning/slipping/getting stuck. I was simply blown away at the difference in traction after ags! They are 15"s so cant comment as to brands on 14s.

"Just another manic Sunday"...wish it was Monday. DA BEARS SUCK!!! It's 42 to 23 Arizona!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!! I AM EMBARRASSED TO BE A FAN. THERE IS 8 MINUTES LEFT IN THE 4TH QUARTER...I CAN'T BELIEVE THERE IS ANYBODY BUT ARIZONA AND PACKER FANS IN THE STANDS. I JUST WANT TO THROW UP...DISGUSTING. APPALACHIAN STATE COULD BEAT THESE GUYS EVERY DAY THIS YEAR. IOWA MIGHT EVEN BEAT THESE GUYS. MARYLAND WOULD KICK THEIR BUTT. THIS IS REALITY TV AT IT'S WORST. DANG, JUST GIVE ME 1 NINJA ON THE DEFENSIVE LINE. THESE GUYS CAN'T EVEN SPELL "DEFENSE". ONE GUY EVEN HAS THE FRIDGE'S #72 ON HIS JERSEY, I'LL BET HE BOUGHT IT AT WAL-MART. HOW DO YOU SCORE 23 POINTS AND YOU ARE NOT EVEN IN THE GAME...I DON'T GET IT. I FEEL LIKE A CUBS FAN THAT JUST LOST AN 18 INNING GAME BY 1 RUN BECAUSE SOME FAN REACHED OUT AND GRABBED THE BALL. OH YA...AND GET THIS...THE CUBS LOOK LIKE THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. SLAP ME AND WAKE ME UP....PLEASE.

Welcome to the forum. Here is some of the info we have on this model http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/search/?q=1973+10hp+8-speed&type=downloads_file&sortby=relevancy&page=1 Garry

You say...makes you froggy?

Very cool Honda powered Wheel horse. You are a talented fabricator and mad scientist wrapped into one. Doc Emmett Brown from back to the future would be proud of yah.