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I put these pneumatic wheels on my blower. They work great. As an added bonus, they make the blower easier to move around!

I have owned 2 old wheelhorse tractors for about 20 years now, that were originally owned by my dad and uncle, and I'm finally ready to part with them. I have questions about their value and the best approach to finding the right buyer. I am located in St. Paul, MN Wheelhorse 1: Was owned by my dad, acquired around 1961-2. I think it is a Suburban model, not sure. Engine was replaced with more current Briggs 7hp. steering wheel replaced, head light added, other modifications to go with an electric-start engine that was on it in the 70s. I'm currently trying to get this one fully functional, (I have the mowing deck) but the Briggs has no spark and having trouble getting that fixed. Am I wasting my time on the Briggs? (Will any buyer immediately yank the engine and replace it with an original 4hp Koehler?) I'm thinking this one might be worth around $300 if I get it fully functional and cleaned up...not sure if that is a pipe dream, considering it has so many non-original modifications to it? In the attached pictures, it is the one with the family around it (that picture was taken in 1963) and the one with the blue seat (picture taken 9-21-15) Wheelhorse 2: Was owned by my uncle, I think he bought it brand new around 1959 or 1960? I think it might be an RJ. It is mostly original, but also not running. I hope to get it running also. It has a mower deck as well, and original tires, I have not seen any other wheelhorses of this vintage with those front tires. I'm thinking with this one being more original with a Koehler engine on it, maybe it is worth more than the other one, though I'm not sure on that, and it probably depends on me getting it operational. In the pictures below it is one the man (my uncle) riding it and looking at the camera, with the silver fish on the cabin behind it. (I think the picture was taken in August, 1960.) If anyone wants to contact me about these I can be reached at farmerie@yahoo.com. Otherwise, I'm just interested in hearing opinions on what I should do to maximize their value and make them visible to whoever would want them the most....also wondering what I can hope to get for them.

For comparison, Left to right, Firestone, Carlisle, and Deestone all in 23-10.50x12 In fairness, the firestones are on a 10.5 wheel, the carlisles are on an 8.5, and the deestones are on a 7.5, which is plenty wide for them.

Just a quick question. My old single stage blower that I will try out this winter has the steel wheels. My 2 stage Wheel Horse blower has the skids. My much larger 2 stage on my diesel tractor has skids How do the steel wheels work on a gravel drive ??? Should I convert it to skids like the rest ? Thanks, Cleat

Also look at the Carlisle Tru-Powers. I went with them due to what I'd read about sizing being nominal with Deestone, etc. and people winding up with smaller tires than expected. Also, all Carlisle tires I've had last forever. Here are two pictures, one new before the spring mowing season and one from a few days ago when I test-fit the new 2-link chains for traction this winter. They've made a world of difference already when leveling the packed gravel driveway with the dozer blade and given me some extra traction mowing. They don't tear up the yard unless I start to spin tires, which is a lot harder to do with the extra traction. The V61s up front really help with the steering as well.

I'm slowly adding ag's to all of my Wheel Horses.... excellent traction on grass and snow.

This is my "down & dirty" D-160 work horse. Used almost exclusively for pulling yard trailer and dragging logs etc. I have some hilly areas and before ags with turfs I was constantly spinning/slipping/getting stuck. I was simply blown away at the difference in traction after ags! They are 15"s so cant comment as to brands on 14s.

We had this excellent pine tree in the back yard, but it was just growing to big for the space, so we had to have it cut down. So now we have room for a garden again. I put the word out, "looking for a plow", and my buddy, Denny Clark calls me and says he has one and he will bring it to the Lasueur show. Fantastic. Thanks Denny. Time for a restoration. Took it all apart and wire wheeled the heck out of it. Time for paint...primed first...used Rust-o-leum red primer and Regal Red. Put it back together and ordered some stickers from Terry Dennis. Got the decals in a couple of days. I did get to practice "Watching Paint Dry", but the video will be when I get to use it. I was looking at all the pictures of plows on this site, and I did not see one that was exactly like this...and then Koen finds a video on U-Tube that is just like this in action. I think it really is a plow that Wheel Horse, maybe ordered and put their name on it.

Finally got my Hydro hoses and fittings. Also decided to pony up for a welder rather than taking to someone and paying. I found it on my porch tonight. Been some years but I was certified for a while so hopefully the skill returns quickly. Decided to ante up for the dual input voltage version and settled on the Razorweld 150 after some discussion with personnel at local welding supply shop. Does flux, shield gas mug/tig and stick welding. Bought it from Amazon and got a good price. 180 less than the shops price. I called the service facility in Washington State and spoke with a fella there for 20 minutes...did the whole internet research thing and decided to bite bullet. My biggest challenge is work is keeping me so busy! Hope to get significant progress this coming weekend.

Picked up another c160 auto today with tiller and all of its assorted hardware and a cultivator. Tractor runs and operates but isn't perfect.

I'm impressed that this new member wants to make this tractor his and run it for the next thirty years. This is why I went into the details of how to get on the right track of doing such a thing. I clearly remember the day I bought my 1991 312-8 listed below. I told my Wheel Horse Dealer I was buying a Wheel Horse because I wanted a tractor I was sure would give me at least 20 years of service. Well its 24 years later and still running very very strong. Although the 12 horsepower magnum has been replaced with a 14 horsepower magnum, the original 12M is alive and well and working hard in a Wheel Horse just 6 or 7 miles down the road from me. I have an attachment to that engine, so it has to stay close to home. LOL

Jo and I had a great time seeing all of you again It was a long day but worth it thanks Steve for for the fun day Brian

You will be happy with what a good pressure washing and polishing will do. The 10 horsepower magnum with do alot of work with the low range transmission. New spark plug, new air filter, and a carb tuning of the high speed needle will extract as much power as the engine will produce as it is now, especdially if you can find non-ethanol gasoline where you live. Don't forget to check the little rubber hose that connects the back of the air cleaner cover to the crankcase. Alot of times this hose is cracked or missing. The little hose recirculates crankcase pressure to the carb intake. Grease everything that has a grease fitting. Spray silicone every other moving part that does not have a grease fitting. There is a grease fiitting behind the engine at the steeering gear, also another one where the front axle pivots. Change the transmission oil and replace the shifter boot. Throw the old seat away and put a new one in its place. You should have less than $100 invested in these maintenance items. A gas cap if needed can run between $5 for a basic one to under $20 for a factory style replacement with fuel gauge. I'm happy to hear you want to keep and use this tractor for the next thirty years. If you do these simple steps that I have laid out for you the tractor will give you good comfortable service till the engine has to be rebuilt due to major wear. In the meantime keep an eye out for a replacement 14 or 16 horsepower low hour magnum engine that came off of an Wheel Horse tractor such as a 414 or 416. There you will get the power you want to run a 48" mowing deck or other implements that demand more power than the 10 horsepower magnum will provide.

i bet he wont need any aditional weight on the rear

The first attempt happened just as the forum crashed for a minute. Admins can delete it, hopefully. I got tired of renting trailers, so I finally broke down and got one of the Harbor Freight DIY trailers. Turns out they will take the 20% off coupon on it. I was surprised, they won't take it for most expensive stuff It's coming along nicely. I also bought a welder and found out I suck at it as bad as I did in school.

Can someone tell me what year this tractor is , no motor but looks like all the parts are there , model # T656 , serial # 255638 , and what size motor was in this

definatly skids,the wheels don't work at all on gravel,heres a pic of the ones I welded up,they work great

I think the first picture with the family around it has value, at least to me! There aren't many original pictures of the late 50's early 60's pictures around, at least not as good as yours. I would never have of thought the 58/59' RJs hoods would have such a smooth glossy finish as the picture shows when they were new. Thanks for posting it.

I had an old K241 along we loaded in the back of the pickup for Tom then.

Tires are on..Tranny is in and engine fitted into place....

if you have 12 volts out of the key switch when you hold it in the start position you should be able to follow it all that's left is clutch depress switch and the pto switch and check your connections at the back amp meter also Brian

Bud was the one who pulled up to my trailer on an 857. And I'm the horrible person who sold shynon that mess of a project lol

It really does sound like a great cruise. John, would sure like to see some pictures...the east coast is simply gorgeous up that way.

Cleat, I have to comment on pictures above and like Wheel-N- it I am in total agreement about your herd . Nice-very nice Mike - - your white hood LQQKs !!! great also. Rick

I agree with most of the above. I ran a 10hp for years. It really depends on your personality type to tell you if 10hp will be enough for the snowblower. It will work great if you are patient and take reasonably sized bites, but if you are the kind that just likes to throw everything you got at it and watch snow fly, you will bog it down. Either way, if you hook that plow on it for the 8" or less snowfalls, that 10 HP will push like a tractor twice its size. I would not recommend a 48" deck, you will probably be disappointed, but a 42" or less it handles with very little issues. (you look to have a pair of 36" decks) @dcrage the 310 can handle a FEL (front end loader) just fine, as the hydraulics are added separately to the PTO. Recommendations for winter: Chains really help it bite, but you can scratch up your drive pretty god if you arent careful. WEIGHT, WEIGHT and MORE WEIGHT. These tractors are far stronger than their weight would suggest. The heavier you can get the back end, the better bite you will have to push/blow snow. I have loaded rear tires and will be running an additional 50lb on each wheel this year (added about 220lbs total) and since I am not a heavy fella, I might throw on a few suitcase weights. I also have 30lb on each front tire to help with steering. And most of all: browse around here, spend time learning, asking questions and HAVING FUN! These tractors do really make it fun.

Looks good, Steve. Now to get that ground plowed up.

Progress update, rear rims have been sandblasted and primed, hope to paint them this weekend. Drained transmission and got clear water and some gear oil. Pulled from frame and put her on the trans stand and it does not look good Looks pretty rough, about 1/2" of crud in the bottom of the trans, 1533's are not turning, they may clean up. A couple of the gears are chipped. Good think I have a complete rebuild trans on the shelf to use. This one may be a parts trans. And last picture everything stripped from the frame. Have to weld a couple cracks in the trans mounting plate. Enjoy

With "The Summer that Wasn't" due to my accident and losing my buddy, Mrs. Sailor and I are going to be good to ourselves after all the recent trials and tribulations. It's a 7-day cruise from Quebec City to Boston. This is from the web, the Veendam in Quebec City where we will embark. It will feel good to be back at sea again!

Had a few of the horses out this afternoon while I was working on a couple others. Here you go... L to R: C-160, C-120 (step-daughters new machine), 520 H, B-80 & D-200. The C-120 has been (poorly) painted orange, and needs to be RED. I told her she has 1 week to make it RED if she wants to drive it in the upcoming parade.

Welcome to the forum. Nice clean tractor. Operator manual and more http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/files/file/942-tractor-1966-606-656-da-om-ipl-wiring-snpdf/ Garry

I had heard of fitment issues with the 10.50 Carlisle Tru-Powers and the GT-1600/300-400/C series with a 42" mowing deck. I'm also running a stock width wheel (7" I think) and heard the 10.50s might bulge and the tread wouldn't be as square. I went with the 23x8.50s so mowing deck fitment, tread profile, and traction wouldn't be an issue. Floatation isn't needed where I'm at so I'm perfectly happy with the slightly increased ground pressure caused by a smaller contact patch.

That would be Jake Kuhn. Send him a PM and he may be able to help you out.

For the most part, the more competitive teams treat the first 2-3 games of the season like pre-season. Playing starters in Pre-season is just sooooo risky. everyone is quick to dismiss teams and tag teams as the Super Bowl Champs. Thoughts on the 0-2 teams Ravens - Get Cincy at Home. Huge game for Ravens......give them the edge to get their first win. Texans at home against the Bucs. Give them the edge as they are supposedly getting their starting RB back. Gaints at Home against the Skins - Giants are pretty weak this year but should break their losing streak. Lions get the Broncs at home - Somehow I expect the Lions to pull their first win out at home. But if I were betting, I would probably shy from this game. It is possible the Colts lose tonight. That would make them 0-2 and they would most certainly win at the Titans. So the Bears are my lock to be 0-3 after next week when they play at home against the now 0-2 Seahawks. Bears Fans will need counseling to get through this season.

Prolly need to hang a few suitcases off the front!

With the chain off, you can spin those sprockets by hand and check for any roughness or side play. When I got my tall shoot blower everything seemed fine except for the chain slack. I felt nothing and heard nothing when turning the shaft. The adjustment was all the way so I had to replace the chain. After getting it off I found both sprockets had a ton of wobble in them and both drive shaft bearings had a rough spot.Also the sprocket teeth were worn. So I replaced all of it. Also with the chain off you can really check the auger bearings for any problems or hint of noise. As a side note. I got my sprockets from TSC. They were 1 tooth larger than original. I had cut my new chain exactly like the old one. I had to add a link to make it work.

I've got the Deestone ags on my 160 and I think they look good. You will want to go for the 10.50s. The Deestones run quite a bit small for their marked size. The 8.50s are pretty small, but the 10.50s are a great replacement for the Carlisle 8.50s and fit well on a 7 in. rim. With 90 lb. weights in each wheel, it will pull pretty good.

My 74" PTO blower has skids around a foot long and I've never been tempted to add wheels, though maybe even longer skids! However, I'm guessing those wheels would be just fine on blacktop or concrete drives. I'd certainly try them on a nice smooth driveway but I wouldn't want them at all in gravel!

I ran ags with heavy truck snow chains for years on a PK and I ran them all year, winter snow and summer mowing! I'm not suggesting that is the best plan but the occasional soft ground chain depression in the turf issues just never bothered me enough to pull them off! Since then I've taken a liking to R4 industrials on my TC-35. Far less damaging than ags in turf, smoother running on hard surfaces and still a pretty good grip in mud. Got to run chains on them in the winter to get a decent grip but I think they hold the chains out better and more evenly than ags. For snow I think it's hard to beat chains on turfs. Much more chain contact! If I was mainly plowing gardens I think I'd be running ags and tri-ribs. Mowing and pushing snow, turfs and chains. Best compromise, R4s, but with chains in the winter!

The city of Philadelphia is officially out of batteries. The mayor has cancelled Christmas. Santa has been told not to go near the city limits if he knows what's good for him!

Dougie would be proud of that rant! Steve 670 The Score has a opening with your name on it! In the other games, weird outcomes. Bucs beat the Saints. Saints are done and are run by a bunch of nutbags Giants blow it again. Coughlin should have rertired 2 yrs. ago Hey the Brownies won! SD & Cincy had a good one Bills and their fans shot there mouths off all week and got smoked.I tried to warn them but NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I don't care what the score ended up being. I hate the Pats as much as anybody but you don't do that to Brady and Bellicheat. They will stomp you every time. In my hope everyone gets hurt game the Queenies stopped the Loins. Stafford got hit on every play and in the men's room too The Steelers showed up and the Neanderthal coach of the Niners is now 1 and 1 2 sleepwalker games the Washington Native Americans beat the Rams an Carolina out lasted JJ Watt In the Anitia Bryant Bowl, Miami and the Jaggey Wires are all knotted up in the 3rd along with Bal and Oaktown. Colt D is Turrible In the 35 to 34 halftime score game, The Cowpies are only up 6-0 to the Iggles. Iggles D are ready for retirement already. In Philly, Santa is being fitted for a helmet and all the stores have sold out of flashlight batteries. Big game tonight. If the Packers have any MEN on their team they will win by at least 10 I don't care who's not playing, who has a BOO BOO ect. I want Marshawn's mom all over FB tomorrow Rantin and a Ravin. I hope some player I don't care from what team runs over Petey Carrol

Thanks The more i read about this tractor the more excited i get about it. Looking through the pictures I realize it looks much worse in photos then in the barn. Last winter was a record year for snowfall around here, might try to get it ready for this year at least. I am giving serious thought to turning it into a resto project. Not show quality, but a good rebuild so it'll be good for another 30 years.

can't wait to see the video of Stevasaurus plowing a garden.

Brrly's 96 yrs young!

To add to what Craig is referring to, the illustration on Miller's site doesn't do justice to how those tires look when mounted. Here's the same tire on my 654

You realize that the week you are away your local Craigslist will be littered with crazy good WH deals and steals right!! Mike.........

Well it's about as close to done as it gets. I've got to repaint the mule drive as I had the front wheels on backwards (actually they've been that way for 20+ years and I put them back on the same wrong way they came off). The wheels being on backwards causes the tire to rub the mule drive when turning full lock left. Oh well, I'll get it painted up and add the final decal. He's a some pics I snapped with my phone. I need to pull it out and take some pics with a real camera! It deserves it!!

I hope you can see these. Christy tell me what you think of my new project?

Stand the deck vertical on the back wheels so you can see the top and bottom. Make sure it is fastened to something so it cannot fall on you. Then use a wooden block to lock the questionable blade to the deck. With gloves on, turn one of the other blades and note what is not turning. Belt, pulley ,or spindle ? Oh...pardon my manners Skyler. TO