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This $5 48" blade followed me home from the auction this morning. No frame, just a blade that needs a new scraper bar. It'll replace the 42" on the Yammy and give me the width I need when angled.

Howard did they look like these? Bud Makes these. He's working on a Hot Rod Horse now but when he's done I hope to get some from him when he makes more.

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All good methods listed here. Just do yourself a favor, and exercise some common sense. This is a touch-and go feely kind of thing.Tapping doesn't mean BFH. Slitting doesn't mean cutting thru. Heat can be good, but there might be a cost for that transferring a bunch of heat to the block. I wouldn't be surprised if you needed a new head gasket from doing this method. (they are known to go because of exhaust heat as it is.) Just take your time, go easy, and it can certainly be done.

I bought 2 sets of 8.5 wide rims from a 520 and a workhorse 1800 this weekend, and tonight I was looking at how clean rust wise one set was well I should say no rust, then I saw a scrape in the paint and it was shiny under it so I grabed a rag and some thinner and cleaned the paint off, mind you it took a hour to clean what you see trying not to scratch the chrome yes I said chrome, they look to have been painted when new primed and painted silver I think these are 420LSE wheels, now if I had the fronts I ask the seller if they have them. I guess buy enough junk you get a prize now and then.

Just want to thank you all for helping me out with the questions on my commando 8 with the wiring, starting and all of the other tractor questions i have had with other horses. It is so great to be able to have a place to go. And get good solid answers that you can trust. But to get back to it I got her fired up this morning and the little 8 horse kolher purred like a kitten. All the lights work, cig lighter, gen light. Thank again

@kudzu3 Are you going to measure that crank journal and cylinder bore before ordering parts? Kohler engines will allow up to 0.003" of wear to the bore, and you can get over-sizes rings in +0.003, +0.010, +0.020, and +0.030", also the crank journal cannot be more that 0.001" too small without having it turned. Crank journal can be turned down up to 0.010" under and a 10-under connecting rod can be had rather easily. Since it's already open, you might as well do it right.

Don, if the deal is right I'd suggest just buying it. RJ's are getting hard to find and if it's got a cast steering wheel it's likely a goodie. Deal with the details when it's yours. By the way......

My granddaughters came over today to celebrate Papa's birthday and brought a little something with them. What a great day. Thanks girls.

That's a great looking rig. Every since you posted the first pic of this truck I find myself cruising Craig's list hoping to find my own back to the past rig. Dang I need to stop viewing your boat and truck threads! Lol

I took the truck to a few area exhaust shops to get a few estimates on a dual exhaust system... The last time I had custom duals put on it set me back 350 bucks. That was quite a while back though. I took it to one shop and they were giving me the run around, he really didn't want to give me an estimate because he didn't know how long it would take. The second shop the owner looked out his office window to peek at the truck and told me 1400.00. No thanks. On my way home from work i stopped at one last shop and he told me 500 if I supply the mufflers. I told him they were already in the bed of the truck and if he could do it right away he had a deal. I couldn't stand to drive it another mile with it sounding the way it did...I've also since added a trailer hitch and hauled my first small load of wood...

Oh sorry. well the manual that i down loaded for the electrical did not have the generator light or the cig lighter in the schematic. But then was sent one that did by the red square members. Then when i tried to start it. I had good spark, fuel, but just would not fire up. Come to find out my float was stuck open. So it would just flood out. Fixed that and she off and running great.

Never emailed. Just used the ole telephone. Had many good experiences with companies where others had issues using email. Emails easily get missed. Always happy to help even with my old cab they haven't made in years. Had the material in a few days to boot. There accounts receivable must be terrible though. I got a call months later saying my card declined. I had changed my billing address and that's what screwed up the transaction. I laughed and said your just charging me now lol

It worked! The muriatic acid removed it all with a just a few minutes brushing it on. I was able to polish the bearing up pretty good following a "how to" on you tube. The previous owner said that the engine smoked some prior to it breaking, so I plan to replace the rings, rod and all gaskets and put it all back together. I think it will work. Thanks all!

The Resto: It will be a little strange writing this part of the story since we have finished the resto already but I will still write it in the present format. Hopefully it will be easier to keep straight from the past story part of this thread. There are many more stories to come and still a few more old photos and slides. I keep "unearthing" them as I search through hundreds of old photos in my parents basement! It should has been a ride down memory lane. I know it is mentioned here on this site many times over but make sure you take lots of pictures before you begin an every nut and bolt disassembly of your tractor. Especially if you have never done it before! You may think that you could NEVER forget how it goes back together, BUT... I will make some casual observations about some of these prerestoration shots: Notice the duct tape holding the SR handle to the steel lever. Dad didn't want to lose it and so it was a quick "temporary" fix that went on in about 1995! Notice the "boat" light attached to the back of the tool box. I remember after we sold the IH Scout in 1992 (a decision that we all regret to this day), dad needed to place the Horse back in primary snow removal duty. Much of that is done in darkness, either before or after work. So, we went to our local store and picked up a fog light kit for the front and this light for the back. The switch to operate it was drilled into the tunnel cover. Here you can see the effects of 25 years of hard use by two boys! The tractor was always stored inside and well maintained. I wish I could say that we never abused it but that would be a lie! I'm pretty sure that all the while we cut the lawn with it, my brother and I went from full reverse to full forward in one simple motion. It was worked! Here you can see the bite marks on the steering wheel from the only other owner this machine ever had and that would be dating back to the early 70's. The switch where the cigarette lighter used to be is what operated the fog lights They don't build them like they used to! This is the original delco-remy SG. Up to this restoration it had never been rebuilt and was still doing its job. Dad replaced the regulator back in the early 80's but this thing had never been serviced during the last 50 years! That 875 decal is the original and in great shape. We are going to tape it off and keep it! A keen eye will pick up Cub yellow under some of the parts. Dad worked at the IH dealership and so there were times that he was able to get a necessary part from the used stash there... That old Sundstand is a great hydro! I can't say enough good about it! Not a big fan of the Fram "oil filter"! We will replace it with a correct Hydraulic filter before the restoration is finished! A discerning eye will notice the cast stamp above the pulley on the engine. Dad repowered this tractor in 1979 with a 12hp K301 designed for generator usage. That enormous oil pan holds nearly 3 quarts of liquid gold to keep this engine lubed and running cool! The original exhaust elbow that dad made to hold his "then new" IH Cub muffler. It served the purpose for 30 years plus but that will get discarded and a new one made that is cleaner looking and promotes better exhaust flow! These detail shots show you our starting point but every scuff and scratch tells its own story and we will continue to cover some of those along the way. Stay tuned in...

This will be my second one with a deck and loader. Hope pics are coming. I run the pump off of the left side of the Kohler and it runs full time, like live hydraulics. the deck mount was place far back of the tack matic as to not effect it. and it works great and the deck also acts a low wt. balancer for stability Here are pics of the new messed loader I found

I am using the same thing, works great. The only thing that will not fit is a hood, frame and c series seat pan.

If you don't have a pipe tap, take a cut-off wheel or hacksaw and cut a vertical slot down the threads in a new 1" pipe nipple, then screw this in like you were tapping a hole. Half to one turn forward, quarter turn back, using cutting oil. It'll act like a pipe tap to clean the threads. Not as elegant, but it'll do in a pinch.

If the pipe is still there, cut it off with a hacksaw or sawzall about 1/4" from the block. Take a small chisel and hammer and collapse the pipe toward the center. Grab it with a pair of pliers and pull it out. I've done it that way at least 4 times.

I've had a few where the nipple was broken off right at the block. I carefully sabre sawed a slot inside the pipe but not deep enough to slice the block. Then with a drift pin, tap, tap, tap on the pipe until it started to collapse, then when I was able to grap the pipe with vice grips, turn the pipe (it was curling inward) until it collapsed enough to draw it out. Half hour at the most. Clean the threads, vac'd out the block. All is well.

I just recently removed one from a K181. The 1" collapsed and broke at the threads when I tried to loosen it with a pipe wrench. Then I used a small chisel to remove the remaining pipe thread from the block.

I am guessing only. But I wonder if original cab company makes them for vermont toro? You can see Original cab company charges allmost 200 dollars more. With the savings from ordering from Vermont you could get the optional temp glass windshield, but then you need to order the hundred dollar wiper option to clear the window. Here goes another winter season coming up where I wrestle with the idea / thoughts of that big pile of cash flying out the window,,,,,,,,so I will probably be getting snow blown in my kisse ragain this year. And then like allways I piss and moan and go dam,,,,,I should have got that cab enclosure again. Decisions decisions decisions, best of luck with what you decide. glenn

I don't take mine off....My 520 is dedicated to snow blowing. But they are bolted on using the 4 seat bolts,one thru the floor board, and one to the hood stand.

I've recently resurrected a 36" deck with these spindles. There's no need to press bearings in from top & bottom. There's a flange at the bottom, plus the chamfer you noticed was missing & both these features are worth keeping. I just bored out the spindle to accept two new easily obtained bearings (1 5/8X3/4X7/16" IIRC) & used a spacer (as you correctly surmised) to locate the pair. You need to machine a couple of grooves in the bottom flange so that the bottom bearing can be drifted out in future The bottom bearing is pressed in from the top until it sits on the original flange, the spindle is pressed through, then the spacer, then the top bearing is pressed in over the spindle & retained when the spindle housing is bolted to the deck. 'Twould have been a lot easier to explain if I'd taken some pictures when I was doing it Now if it would only stop raining I could actually use the damned thing again - at the moment I need a U boat rather than a Wheelhorse here.

I saw Bud at the show driving his tractor with one on it. It looked awesome and sounded pretty much stock.I don't care what it will cost. I will get one

Wait, what... ransom?

Here is a few more pics. Thanks for all the support guys! I wont disappoint! And If anyone has any info on this motor that would be greatly appreciated. I haven't been able to find anything yet! Also, for some of you wondering about the whole air ride thing, I added a pic of my other project that is far from done. Its an 02 Blazer with a full air ride suspension. Pain in my ass most of the time but I still love working on it lol.

Wow what a bonus to have the bolts still showing! Good score!

Quit being an ambulance chaser Mike...... yer 'spose to encourage him to save it!

sub-compact wheel horse!

Good to hear She's running, Rich. This kinda verifies it's better to determine what is missing in the combustion process (fuel and spark) before randomly replacing parts. Even replacing with "new" parts can actually compound the problem.

How many balance gears did it have? Brian Miller's site states that the Magnum engines used a lighter crankshaft counterweight and required the balance gears to run correctly. Some of the 14s and 16s used three gears. You may have to put them back in or have the crank balanced by adding weight to the counterweight side. Kirk engines makes a kit to bolt on extra plates to correct the balance.

trailer is getting full plus that one needs tie rods and has a lot of work to do (mow lawn) so it doesn't play

I had to bring the trusty 212-H over to my mother-in laws because her cub cadet crapped out.

@kudzu3 Just passing on what another friend taught me! What we are here for! That bearing/journal looses lubrication, heats, expands and eventually grabs so tightly that it won't turn any more. Bad thing because something breaks but unless the crank was scored before, it's usually ok. Good luck with it! Fingers crossed!

If everything on a farm has it's use, what kind of hay is that going to haul? Nice project, look forward to seeing the updates!

Jim, I did that for the benefit of all you Wisconsin guys that put up with us Illinois guys that come to Wisconsin deer hunting. I have known farmers that paint COW on their cows so they don't get shot by those FIBS I have had the opportunity to spend many a summer on the farms of my relatives up by Turtle Lake, Wis. doing hay, corn, beans, milking cows...etc. My first love was an Alis Chalmers. I have always thought that when these Wheels Horses grow up and ripen...they turn orange. BTW...I can tell the difference between the smell of dairy, pigs and sheep...I really like the smell of a pig farm...that is my favorite. But, you just have to love the English country side that Meadowfield is showing us...fantastic pictures.

A stream of pictures will be here as soon as i support redsquare.

Just so you know...those look better then what I'm driving around. Nice score.

It's a 1/2" stud. It's possible that mine was modified prior to me getting it but this is what I have. You could go with something different as long as it is secure on the arm. Also, I stand corrected and will blame it on old age. I mentioned the cross was on the 60's and I got that because the supplier had both and said the cross was the 60. Well, I should have jumped out of my chair again and looked rather than relying on my memory

Bend the wishbone selector making the tranny want to pop out of gear or not engage at all, chew the edges off all the gears to a point where you can't get it to engage the speed you want, stress and destroy the bearings that everything rides on in the case, snap a tooth or two on a gear thus elimination that speed or all of them depending on the gear that is damaged. (And the list goes on). :< ) Complete stop before changing speeds.

Nothing like asking someone who's full of hot air to talk! Anyway there's these 3 bears at the Iowa Illinois game see. Steve, John and Duke. They emptied out the concession stand and well .... oh never mind. More pics as promised. After the first wash.

I'd rather you finished... your three bears story.

You want a story? Ok Once upon a time there were 3 bears. No wait a minute! I saw this tractor on CL. Decent price. He said it was a 13 HP Which didn't make sense. Crappy pic with snow on the ground. Coutn't even tell if it was a stick or hydro. Called and left message. Older Guy calls me back just as I'm leaving work Monday. 15 miles away so I go look at it. Ad said mint condition but it had sat under a cover for quite some time. The hood is stained and it's into the paint. Deck has 2 small holes that he didn't see untill I got there. Also came with an older snowblade. I beat him up some and we strike a deal in the nice sunshine iI do not have ramps or the room in my truck for it so I have to come back the next day with the trailer. Tues comes and I'm driving into a severe thunderstorm. I see lightning bolts like in the B.C. Comics ZOT!!!!!! I get there just as the rain lets up enough to not drown pay him and take off the deck as the next wave hits. So I'm allready wet so load up and go! it's a 93 314-8 but it wasn't sold until 98. It has 306 hrs. On it and man was it dirty from sitting in a dirt drivway under that cover. I don't know what my plan will be. I need to clean it up and go through it. I'm more of an old school 60's and 70's WH guy. If it was a hydro with an 1100 I'd definetly keep it but somthing has to go either this or Ezra. At least my cab will fit this tractor like it should Got it's first bath tonight. I think it will need a couple more. I get another pic soon. Now how's that for a story? Is anyone asleep?

Very next nice job on the refresh/restore. No sense mothballing a proven worker. Keep on working the beast. It will make a great family tradition for each generation to do a restoration!!!!

The 875 was busy today.... mowing trails and hauling apples for the deer,deere, dear.

I lifted that onto the truck solo. And all I can say is Amen to that!

Looks like you've scored...the twin(no pun)to mine. Has a mint plastic pan and high back seat, but I swapped them for the steel 520 version.

Craig, I think its about time for intervention! I think its time to start looking for a 12 step program, and by that, I don't mean Step 1. Buy a , Step 2. Buy another , etc.... Matt

I don't even know why I'm addressing this, BUT.....this is only going to be a possibility with rims found on two models. Please don't start scraping the paint off of every WH you own in search of chrome. If you happen to have a set of 8.5 wide rims from a C or HC then by all means scratch, scrape, sand, rub and thinner yourself silly! Hell, I wonder how many chrome draw bars, deck wheels and belt tensioners were painted red? 80 individual pieces of chrome on an LSE if I recall.......I could keep you kids entertained for hours scraping and scratching. :thumbs2: