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7 pointsI think you are right...how can you not look good with these little guys? They already called "dibs" on the back seat riding to the beach with grandpa and grandma next month.
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4 pointsSometimes there is nothing more soothing than the putter of a Wheel Horse. Some people just don't understand.... IMG_5387.MOV
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2 pointsGetting to be that time of year again. Who's thinking about going to Pioneer Power this year? @joebob @prondzy @Shynon @wheelhorseman1000 @stevasaurus @ol550 @rydogg @Terry M @dclarke @Martin @Operator Show dates this year are August 28-30, at the usual Le Sueur Pioneer Power showgrounds. If there are any new comers this year, I've got some picture maps that have helped some other newbies find our little Wheel Horse gathering at this incredibly large show. I'm planning to be there all three days. Anyone interested in coming is welcome, they don't charge exhibitors at the gate. As I understand it there will again be an opportunity to drop a plow in the ground if you're so inclined. Also keep in mind there is a consignment auction on the grounds first thing Friday morning as well, so if you like auctions (and who doesn't ) make sure you're there plenty early to scope it out! If you have any questions about this show, please post them up. This will be our 8th year showing horses here at Le Sueur. Primitive camping is available on site, there is a charge for campers / camping trailers. Any questions about attending, please ask.
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2 pointsI noticed that my horses don't run properly unless the correct liquid is in the beverage holder.
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2 pointsAny shop that would say the BS your shop is telling you I would avoid.What do they think other engines are speced with,a measuring tape?If you can get the necessary tools and have any experiance with machines you could do a satifactory rebuild on what you have.Used engines and alternate replacements can be had for less than a rebuild.You pay your money and takes your choice.Luck,JAinVA
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2 pointsYou might want to consider filling these ags for added traction. I prefer turfs and chains for pushing.
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2 pointsThe 6 inch wheels were on there for the 37" deck. That deck would hit a tire if used with the 8" wheels, so they shrunk the wheels. I think they presumed not many people would want such a small deck on the higher horsepower machines, so they kept those equipped with 8" wheels.
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2 pointsWould you care to share your serial number info? I have some odds and ends like this quote:"Have seen 953 serials from 62-137 to 62-928 and 32508 to 42159 1054 serials from 42105 to 49725 1054A serials from 49065 to 101637"but I have no sheet listing serials or how they apply Years ago I started to record any serial numbers I came across in a Yahoo manuals Group. Each one went into a searchable Database Table about 8 different ways so the info could be sorted every way possible. It worked great but their new format allows a maximum of 1000 lines and this one was up to 5000 so it takes forever to retrieve the info if it comes up at all. I did keep the info in pdf files as a backup but they are about 500 pages long. After 2 years of this I finally found a way to get the serials for individual models and have been working at copying them to the Red Square files. If you do a search of our files using - 1964 serial numbers any that are completed will show up with a SN in the file name. If you see a sn it is just my way of recording that I have checked that model and have no serials for it yet. I have copied the serials just as I entered them in the Groups. Many serials now have 0's before the number so they have the correct number of digits for that particular year. Left them that way in case the info can be used again to take them to a new level. Of course these 0's were not on the tractor so searching for a serial as decaled won't likely come up on a search. One column in the Groups has all the serials recorded as a 9-digit serial. This was very useful as one could quickly scroll down the list to see what years a particular serial was used. Some years the serials continued into the new model year and others they started over. In 1962 they introduced the 62-xxxx serials for the tractors and A-xxxx for the attachments. The 62-xxxx's were used on the following model years until the decal supply was exhausted. Near the end even the A-xxxx's ended up being used on the tractors. The 1971-74 model numbers on the product used 6 digits. These serial number lists is where I realized the significance of the 6th digit. Subtract 5 from that 6th digit and you get the model year. Very seldom does the 6th digit show up but on the Attachment list the GT-14 tractor for 1973 is model xxxx-8. These were 1972 left over models and surprising how many have shown up. It is not a carved in stone record. Some serials are hard to read off the tractor or attachment and others may be a typo. We all make mistakes but have copy and pasted the info to keep them to a minimum. Garry
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2 pointsThe problem is, skeptichorse, once you've been bitten by the Wheel Horse bug... You just want more of them! I started out with a really nice 520-H. It's the Cadillac of the classic 300/400/500 series. There's not much it can't do with its powerful 20HP opposed twin cylinder Onan (some cringe at the mention of that name, but mine is solid) and hydro drive. Then, I was lucky enough to have a 310-8 given to me. I thought that it probably couldn't hang with the 520-H, but surprisingly--that little 10HP Kohler Magnum paired with 8 gears can really hold its own. Especially when pulling. And recently I came across a 522xi and snatched it up. 22HP with power steering and even heavier construction than the 520-H was very enticing. I bought it just because I wanted to see what it could do. It is the epitome of WOW! The bottom line is that it doesn't matter which Wheel Horse you end up with. The one you're sitting on is better than just about anything else you could have bought brand new (especially for the price). They are amazing machines, and from smallest to largest they just get it done. And with THIS FORUM, you will never be at a loss for knowledge and advice. What brand new machine comes with hundreds of experienced owners that can help you with anything related to your tractor? My wife was really upset when I bought a 23-year-old 520-H instead of something new with a warranty. She has seen what I can do with it and now she gets it. The neighbors can't do half of what I can with their brand new big box tractors. One of them even brought their brand new Craftsman over for a friendly pulling contest (I'm sure our kids had something to do with it). He was shocked and embarrassed when his was permanently stuck in reverse no matter what he tried. Since that day, every time I fire up the mighty Onan, at least one of the neighbors is suddenly out on their newer machine, as if to show me up or something. Too funny. I wonder what they are thinking now with the 522xi. But interestingly enough, Since I first bought my 520-H over two years ago, several horses have appeared in the neighborhood--mostly the same 300/400/500 series, but my next door neighbor just got a 1970s B or C series (don't know which one yet) that he got after selling his eXmark. Apparently he has more work to do than just mow. Hopefully I can convert them all and have my own neighborhood WH club !
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2 pointsOkay, here's the update. I purchased a 2014 Tacoma today. Here she is.
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2 pointsPlow some big snow with little power. http:// Hang with the big boys. http:// Impress the judges. http:// Win some awards. http:// Spark creativity. http:// Bring good folks together. http:// Meet famous people. (Don't forget about Bob Hope...if you did your reading) http:// Keep a family well rooted together. http:// Edit----darn it!! spent a little extra time posting this, and the links don't work. Apparently Wheel Horses won't help you be computer literate!!
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2 pointsGreat suggestions all about what a wheel horse can do, but nobody has yet mentioned the most important thing of all: Bring a bunch of folks from all over the world together and form lasting friendships. Good luck with your lumber jacking! steve
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2 pointsAnother thing a wheel horse can do, that very few (if any), other tractors can do, is set there in the basement (or garage), all shined up, and silently, just look damned good.
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2 pointsJust joined the forum today, and may be kicked out, after this. Here goes. Until a couple weeks ago, I would have never even looked, at a Wheel Horse garden tractor. I was looking to replace my JD 212 with a JD 317 or 318. In the process of looking, for the right deal, the right deal found me. I stumbled upon a Toro Wheel Horse 518xi. Hours had just turned 160. Came with a soft cab that has a real glass front window, wiper, and beacon light. 48" mower deck, 42" single stage snow blower, weights and chains. I picked the entire package up for $1,650.00.. The price was definitely right, the attachments we exactly what I was looking for, and the soft cab was a bonus. So, this was more of a stumbling block I fell over and am glad I did. Photo is of the 518xi.
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1 pointIts been three years since I rescued and restored an A-800 with the intention of bringing it home to mow the grass in my garden rather than keep it with the other horses out at the fields and barn. So this...... became this....... A slight custom job in terms of the different fender pan, seat arrangement, and steering wheel. However, two years on and it was still at the barn as I never got round to restoring a deck for it. The one that it came with being basically beyond repair. Almost half of the top of the shell was gone and had been replaced by a plate welded underneath. Probably gave it a few years extra life but by now the sides of the shell were rotting through as well. It would have been a whole lot of work to fab a new shell, particularly if it was to resemble an original. Trouble is that these little decks don't come up that often over here in the UK and when they do they're often not much better than this. I managed to find one that had been fiber-glassed top and bottom and although it was a gamble in terms of what was beneath it, it looked as though most of the strengthening ribs were still in existence - essential if it stood any chance of passing for anything like original after restoration. The fiberglass was difficult to remove and having struggled to get a small patch off, the rest had to be done in small sections along cut lines made with a small cutting disk in an little air powered tool. The fiberglass had held on pretty well despite the rust it had been applied over so it was a lengthy task to remove it all and then de-rust and treat the metal underneath. I left the fiberglass on the top of the shell intact as it was pretty much all that was holding the it in shape at this stage. The good news though was that the ribs that I wanted to save were pretty much intact. The above photo shows I think why welding in new sections was out of the question as most of the metal would have needed cutting away. The next step was to check the alignment of the two pulleys, one of which was out of line where the shell had already given in to belt tension before the last repair had been made. Fortunately there was enough give in what was left now to beat the shell till the pulley alignment was as good as it was going to get. To stabilize the structure, fiberglass paste (resin and chopped glass) was applied with a plastic spreader including filling the reinforcement ribs. With the underside strengthened just enough for now it was time to see what the top of the deck shell was actually like. Not bad really, certainly it could have been far worse. Fiberglass paste was applied over the repair areas then sanded back flush before surface filler is used later. The extent of the rotted away metal can be seen in the next photo - an effect I happened to notice while moving the deck. The underside of the shell will be getting three thicknesses of standard fiberglass matting to provide the necessary strength but not till the weekend as there's other bits to get underway first. I thought it a good idea to take the original deck apart so that the best bits from both could be selected to go to the shop for refurb. Although it looked unlikely that there'd be anything better on this one - there was! The pillar pulley assembly ran much more smoothly as did the idler pulley. Not surprising really as all of the pulleys had been replaced at some point (I seem to recall now the PO of the A-800 mentioning that but I'd forgotten about it.) The belts had obviously been replaced as well and are both OK to use so the original deck did have some useful parts on it after all. More photos to follow soon. The aim is to fiberglass the shell at the weekend so for the moment all the bits and bobs are in the shop being sorted and some now repainted and hanging up to dry. Andy
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1 pointHave a two part question. 1) What is this spring (please see first pic) It was in a box of parts of a 1977 B100 that was overhauled and the owner passed away before putting the engine back on the tractor. I had to reassemble the pto but I have all the parts for it. 2) Where can I get some speed clips? These are used for attaching wiring to the tractor. (please see second pic) Thanks, Todd, New Guy
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1 pointI use ag tires and tri ribs on the front of my b-80. The ags are loaded and i still dont tear up the lawn.
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1 pointYeah, good luck with that one! Here's what you can expect: http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/topic/37762-is-your-kohler-happy/#comment-337126
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1 pointRead three times and I tried but I'm still lost... How do I search a serial here, on this site? And you have all the WH serials from the Yahoo group? The WheelHorseManuals groups? Maybe I can help? Type this in the Search box 1964 serial numbers or any other model year. Then click on the drop down menu next to the search box and select Files and then click search. Each file name that comes up should have a SN in it. Click on one to see the serials which are just on the file information page. Nothing to download. No I don't have the serial numbers in a format I can use. I go to the Yahoo Group and retrieve them one model number at a time and copy them to the files here. Garry
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1 pointDifferent part number also. I recall many switches listed in an Onan parts list depending on what you wanted it to do. Did you order the NN10824? Garry
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1 pointIf the threads are good, just a little pipe joint compound will do. I use the yellow stuff in a tube that is safe for gas and oil. I don't want to use anything that is going to make that plug harder to get out next time I try.
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1 pointI use a little white liquid teflon on mine for good sealing and the ability to get it out again. If it in less than perfect condition I would recommend replacing it as a stripped out plug that cannot be easily removed is a real pain. Cleat
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1 pointThat 953 has had a tough life and needs more love than most of us would want to give it.. The Ross steering gear, hood, headlight buckets and hydraulic pump seem to be the only real valuable items. The trans axle, engine and front axle would have some value if you wanted to bring them to the "Big Show" in June. What is the serial number on the plate above the shift pattern sticker? The only difference between the 1054 and 1054A is the year of manufacture. The numbering system that was used at the time would have had it be a 1055 in 1965 but that was the number being used for the newly introduced short frame square hood model.
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1 pointThey fire both at same time one is on the end of the exhaust stroke and does nothing..hence the term "Wasted"
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1 pointThanks Hunter, They do seem to be rather simple and after having a done a few Kohlers this should be a breeze. I was more worried about where to find parts if needed but it seems they are out there yet ...even oversize pistons/rings, amazing that parts are around for a 55+ year old engine! I did find all the specs as well, wonderful thing this information age we live in.... Keep an eye on my thread in mods... will be sure to take plenty of pics....
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1 pointHave to be able to see them. I have a very nice pellet rifle with laser and red light, scope, etc. but if I can't see a target...... My German Fienwerkbau needs to see the target. Perhaps scarecrows? I mean Feline Scarecats?
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1 pointWife had to put a fence around her garden as well. My lab kept stealing zucchini and beets and my beagle keeps raiding the tomatoes.
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1 pointThat's a pristine looking 520-H. Congrats. Great haul! I had to put on my sunglasses when I looked at those hubcaps.
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1 pointI have flipped my 4 wheeler more than once dragging logs, when they would dig in (and they werent as big as what I tested the horse with).. so when I am on the horse my foot is right next to that clutch at ALL times... What surprises me is HOW it pulls... It does need a tug to get them started. I always start in the lowest gear and see if I can get them freed up, but if I need to bump them I will. But the main difference is once they are moving the machine just goes.... and goes and doesnt want to stop. You never even feel like you are dragging anything, it doesnt want to come up on you like the wheeler did. The machine just feels balanced to me for doing this kind of work.
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1 pointWell my production efforts drop off the cliff when the temperature needle hits 90 or above. I also had to deal with sale of the tiller today and you just have to take opportunity to show and tell and talk tractors....that's a lot of what the hobby is really about so between selling off redundant implement to make more space, general housekeeping and shoptalk, I was able to organize a bit. I almost spent time and effort sandblasting a body part that was unnecessary. Risk of having parts tractor, limited space and pace that I am going at. it was good to inventory as part of housekeeping. wish I had one of those shop AC units. But then I would need to insulate the garage. Yet another project to add to list:-) The obligatory pic .....
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1 pointI was going to ask, What part of Maine? My dad was from Madawaska and we would go up there every year. My Uncle had a camp on Long Lake. Sparky, you need some Playtex Living Gloves. You can fish,do dishes and pick up a dime with them. I think they are insulated so you can use them for work!
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1 pointNICE, looks beautiful there! Water is CLEAR Just spent 4 weeks up there but working in Bethel around the White Mountains area. What's the deal with that place? Rent the house with a boat or... I see you didn't ruin your soft Palmolive hands
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1 pointI put firestone tri-ribs on the front of the 520 that I use for the snowblower. Love them. Much better steering control in the snow, and not too harsh to use on the grass, unless it is REALLY wet. The Carslile Turf Masters on one of my other tractors are gentlest on the lawn, especially when wet, but the difference is small. The difference in snow and ice is a huge positive for the tri-ribs. On the back, the ags are best in loose dirt and not-too-sloppy mud, but are a little hard on grass, and do big damage if you spin them. On snow, ice, and hard pack, turf tires with 2-link v-bar chains work best for me. Ags do poorly on these surfaces. On normal or wet grass, I still like the Carlisle turf masters, inflated to 10-12 lbs. My most useful setup is turf masters in the rear, with aggressive chains and extra weights in the winter, and tri-ribs on the front.
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1 pointAwesome! Glad to hear it won you over! These horses ain't your grandmas lawn mower . You are getting bit by the bug! It starts with this incurable grin on your face and the red tractors and attachments just end up multiplying! My neighbor who just finished replacing 4 gears in his old deere transmission (all it does it cut grass) is always impressed with the piles of snow I have in front of the 48" plow each winter. I remember he was out last year after a good 8" or so of wet heavy snow with a freeze on top. I offered to plow his drive, he told me it was too heavy my "lawn mower" would never make it. (Of course that just lights the fire) I fired her up, got a running start, and that 14 horse kohler ran hard into the governer all 100 feet of that driveway and I left a nice pile of snow right in front of his little walk behind snow blower. I had a big grin! (I of course cleared the rest of his drive, which he in turned paid me with a bag of salt. Love good neighbors!)
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1 pointOK not gonna lie that was kind of fun I took it into the woods and looked for the logs that my wheeler hated.... Two were 9 ft long and 1 FT in diameter. 1 cherry and 1 maple... so not light pine logs... the 4th log I dragged was 31 FEET long and 8 inches in diameter... not as heavy but impressive because of the length. Funniest moment was when I got almost all the way out and it wouldnt go anymore, I backed up and took off again and nothing... after the third time I noticed that the drag cable had taken down a sappling and got stuck on the base... and it was pulling the sappling out by the roots while still dragging the log. I have no doubt that it would of if it could have gotten more traction. I would like to say that it was a nice level straight run but who am I kidding it was more fun with uneven terrain and turns to make while dragging...some where almost 180 degrees. The main differences that I noticed between dragging with the horse vs the wheeler: I never once felt like I would tip over backwards... where on the wheeler I did more than once. It did scare me a few times when it felt like it was going to go over sideways due to uneven ground. But some quick booty shaking and it got some bite and took off again. Once it was moving I had to look back to know the logs where there... I was comfortable on the machine.. where on the wheeler you rode with with your face over the handle bars and your chest on the tank... Vs just sitting and riding like on the wheel horse. There was less calculating my route... I just turned when I had to and it went... on the wheeler you went in one direction until it stopped then went in another to change the angle of the log then start again ... It may sound crazy but I think the machine was more determined to get the job done than I was... and the more I worked it the more it seemed to wake up... I do have to remember to take the parking brake off.... after the second log, I unhooked it and took off and it felt like it was bogging.... thats when I noticed the parking brake was still on... ooops. Wonder what it would have done with good tires... I am still using the old ones that came on it that are hard as rocks even with no air in them. So to say it did what my cub never would have dreamed of doing is a true statement... was it safer and more comfortable and efficient than the wheeler hell yes.. Now what else can I do with it lol
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1 point" Any Crapsman can do that" But for how long? 40 years? I doubt it.
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1 pointOK Dennis...I am by no means an expert on Wheel Horse tractors, but I feel your pain. If there is one thing that this site lacks, it is the ability to pull up good pictures of horses with an explanation of what is different between the years. Case in point...on the main page we have "Picture Gallery" and the sub-category, "Wheel Horse Picture Horse Gallery" For the most part you can go in there and identify a horse...the problem...I think through the up-grades and from the old "Forum-er Site" a ton of pictures have been lost. Another thing that never happened...the folks that posted these horses only posted maybe one shot (usually the left side) when it would be helpful to show at least 4 pictures showing all sides of the horse. This could be my next project...delete the worthless posts that have no pictures and set it up to have pictures, of every horse that is correct...and if it is not correct...why not. We could go to the members that did have posts in there and see if they want to offer up those pics again. What do ya think?? On a serious side...if you do this...a new member can go into this section...identify his horse and never post anything. In other words, if you have all the information available...you lose the back and forth that so many of us love here on Red Square...that includes the banter. Personally, I think it would do us all a favor to clean up the Wheel Horse Picture Gallery...I think that Brrly1 even started a thread concerning this. Understand that this could become a huge undertaking with a bunch of knowledgeable members weighing in on what is correct and not. If I had the admins blessing on this, I already have some ideas on how to go about this...you have brought up something that , I know, a few of us have been thinking about. I was looking for something to do.
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1 pointI don't remember his name but I talked with him a bit at the Le Sueur Minnesota show, he has a very nice collection and I remember the trailer which was filled with signage on the walls. All of his tractors were in very good or restored condition here are a couple pictures from last years show. I am sure Jason (casual observer) has some pictures and more information about him.
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1 point1054 and 1054A both had the wider front tires, and the hydralic lift was standard on both as well as the 953. The reason for the 1054A name was the type of numbering system had going at the time. The 10 stands for 10 HP; the 5 stands for Electric Start; the 4 stands for the Year, 1964 (953 was 9.6 HP, electric start built in 1963). In 1965 the 1055 was introduced, it is a short frame 12" rear wheel model like the 855; to continue the 1054 and keep the numbering system would have caused confusion, sooo, they just added the "A" ps, if it was a hydro the 1055 would be a 1075, the 7 being Hydro and all hydro units were electric start. pps, if you can't find 1054/953 spindles you could use GT-14 parts. Keep us posted as you go along.
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1 pointC-160 8 speed in mint condition. I like the simplicity of the B and C series. They have plenty of power for my use!
