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I just got this baby home. Got it for $300 including hub caps. Runs like a top!! 1967 857. I don't think I got hurt.

i recently bought a moldboard plow and today was the first test

So I'm at the shop where I volunteer and one of the guys starts flashing pics of a tractor on his phone... "ya. The guy has this thing and it needs a stahteh - thats starter for you non new englanders he shows me the pic and I say. "That's about a 72 commando based on the stickers and steering wheel". Shows me the engine plate and the sticker covering the model and serial,for the machine. Well it's got electric start so I pop on here and download the reference chart for years and engines. Coulda been a 857, nope wrong engine code. turns out to be a 72 commando 8 as best we can tell its not running so I offered $100, there might be extras like a deck or blower or something. He's got 3 machines total so I may come home with something new Oh, and why exactly is this place awesome? Because in 3 months I've learned more about models and options to id old stuff and to find reference materials when I need them thanks All

Hi Lynn, As I promised, here's your 875 the PROBLEM the new rod x Alive and well and riding the horse trails.

This is meant to make you smile. This is a story only emoticons can tell.............................

well then while your at it: http://www.ecotrons.com/products/small_engine_rhb31_vz21_turbocharger/ That should help overcome the flathead limitations.....

I put a HF winch on my 312-8 and have the grader blade on the regular lift.

I just picked up a rear discharge deck that was on a tractor I bought for 250 bucks and it is in real good shape. As you stated, it needs painted and the deck spindles gone over. (And some real good blade sharpening too). There should be no need for you to drop that kind of money on a used deck and never, IMHO, on a new old stock deck. The Wheelhorse decks were some of the heaviest built mowing decks on the market. Way over-engineered! This is why you see so many decks still being used on 20, 30 and even 40 year old tractors. Welding shops charge very little for hole repairs on decks that were not cared for. (Rode hard and put away wet). Spindles and the spindle bearings are easy to find and so are the roller and deck wheels. Even if you spend 250 buck for a used deck that better darn well be hole-less and quiet for that price, pressure spray it, dry it off very well and coat the bottom of it with a good sealer. If you clean it out just decent between mowings and grease the spindles and wheel regularly then super clean it and store it inside over our winters like I'm sure your tractor is, it should last your lifetime. If you don't care for it, it will still last many years but repairs will be required in all the usual suspect places in time. My opinion and never given unsolicited!

Moved a ton of stone the other day with a Briggs 14 hp Work Horse. Did OK but a FEL would be the way to go. Sorry to hear 'bout your problems but, were you just having a bad dream? An excuse to tell the Ms., "I'm going to have to get another Horse."

The frame is correct for a 400. Also the clutch/brake pedal is correct for a 400/550. Same frame was used for a 400, 550, or 401 BUT, something is modified or lengthened in the front too. The hood should mount close to the front edge. Better to find another frame unless you are doing a rat rod

Very complete, you even got the cigar lighter!

I forgot to mention before thanks for the add! As for the serial number plate that is gone as well. The motor does appear to have been swapped out to a kohler k181s with a 12v ignition system. However I must admit I do like the little stack the previous owner put on.

Heck yeah... looks like it's gonna clean up nicely.

Ditto what @Ken B said.

The transmission is a Wheel Horse # 5010...a 1960 transmission. You can tell by the brake band mount on the side plate...it is at an angle rather then straight up and down.

Another thing a wheel horse can do, that very few (if any), other tractors can do, is set there in the basement (or garage), all shined up, and silently, just look damned good.

I'm happy you got that tractor Boo. I knew it really wasn't a good fit for the original poster but I knew it would make a great tractor for someone.

And you don't have to join to see pics!

Redsquare is the best WheelHorse manual you will ever find .

You did good Jack, a buddy's got a 314 and loves it. Looks like we are pretty close to each other - let me know if you need help rustlin it!

Looking forward to the pics. I would just start off with the good cleaning, Change the engine and transmission oil, air and fuel filter if needed, grease her up, check the battery cables and any other routine maintenance thing you can think of. Then use it some to find out if there's anything else it needs.

With the wide range of implements that were made for Wheel Horse tractors you can cut grass, plow and blow snow, plow and disc or till your garden, drag logs out of the woods, (been there done that) sickle bar mow along ditches, and just about anything your mind can conjure up to do with one. NO they aren't a 500cc four wheeler by any stretch but I wouldn't have the need for one of those here other than recreational use. We mow about two acres here and if we both are on the B60 and B80 it takes an hour to do it. The 8hp Kohlers have plenty of power and sip gas like Grandma does moonshine. We also have a C85 with an OH140 Tecumseh transplant that whips through a foot of snow without much trouble. I'm sure you can find lots of pics of members putting their Horses to work here on the forum.:)

Jack, the chain thingy hanging from the rear tell me the tractor has the lift cable / rocker shaft / chain. Its got all the good things going for it mechanically and ground engaging wise. Time to call the owner and go get the tractor before someone else (like me who knows what they are looking at) beats you to it!

I started early last summer gathering GT14's and implements. I started the real tear down a couple months ago but its hard to keep up pace what with job, family and HEAT etc. I have been meaning to start a thread to capture some of the activity. This is my fiest full tear down and I am sure I will hit snags along the way. In fact a couple of posts have already delved into them such as pulling the Tiller Pulley. I deem this a restomod since I plan on making some revisions for ease of use. For instance my current plan is to add an Attach-a-matic and wedge the Ariens 60 inch deck under this tractor for next years mowing season. Picked up a 3 point hitch and tiller (still need to pick this up) and I will install the 16 HP K341 and newer Hydro pump that was on the GT14 i got from Baerpath. I have marine grade wire and equipment for the rewire. As I have a working unit, a parts tractor and the tractor I am resto-modding, you may occasionally identify that the tractor in the pic is not the one which will be the final product. The net result is I will have 2 complete GT 14's when done. I have not yet decided if I will restor the second one. Leaning that way as I will paint this one and may Powder Coat the next. Here are some pics to start off,

I just picked up an old wheel horse that someone attempted to restore. And all the decals are missing along and info tags. I was wondering if there were any other things that separated them?

A very Good Deal indeed !

wow,,,what a find.....if it were mine.......and it isnt....but if it was........the only thing i would change is the dash..... terry,,,,the vinyl guy,,,,sells them......i think....10.00 bucks.....and leveve it stock.....with a good cleaniing... you did good,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,way good..... i will buy it.....anytime....first dibs ...shot gun....what ever the rule is....... he who has it,,,,,,,Rules...........congrats/////////////////////////// but im serious about selling it..... howard in ve

Received my book yesterday. Can't wait to get a chance to read it and watch the DVD. I did browse through it and checked out many of the photos a couple of times last evening. It's an exceptionally well made book. Very high quality construction. Even signed by Micheal. Good job, Micheal, Thank You, Todd

Parts arrived Saturday. Got 'er running.

Just to over emphasize the point! This place is the best.

Just sittin' here wondering... who sets those crazy prices?

There are some New - NOS copies of the first edition available at Amazon right now (some Wheel Horse collectors purchased several copies):

Thanks for the blasting tip. I did not get to work on the blasting cabinet last week. Work got in the way. Was going to take a day off but too many wheels fell off. lol. I am building it myself. Right now its just a stack of metal panels but I will post progress pictures as it develops.

Got the 875 together today. Had to hand feed her for about 30 seconds and then she ran on her own kinda rough for a minute,then smoothed out and now really sounds like a happy little horse. I wanted to try the hydro before I invested much time in the redo. When I engaged the hydro she would barely move forward or reverse and had a funny tinny noise coming from the tranny. This was my fear buying a non running tractor....a bad hydro. The drive belt seemed loose, so I loosened the engine bolts and moved it forward as much as I could to help tighten the belt. Still no better, then I remembered this. I had opened the tow valve to load it on the trailer. Closed the tow valve and tried her again. Now I can even pop-a-wheelie although she isn't too fast and I still hear the tinny noise in the hydro. I flipped the seat up and found the fan was missing a screw and the other three were loose. That took care of the noise, so we went on a 1/2 mile trail ride. She runs fine and sounds good with the static timing setting, and the carb settings in the manual. Thanks again to Mike and Brandon for all the help. Now, just need to decide what to do with this one.

It's been pretty wet in northeast Ohio this summer. These guys haven't had much time in the lawn. Great day to give them some fresh air.

I currently use a commando 800 (two 50# wheel weights and fluid in the rear and 20# with fluid in the front) to do most of the things you mentioned. You'd be amazed what 8hp can push and pull My grandpa bought it new and I still use it today.

Wheel Horse is > or = Honey Badger

The Horse'll do what you need to do provided you take care of business. The Stallion'll outlast us all if you groom, clean, sooth it's aches. Hug a Horse today and for years to come.

854's used a 5025 transmission. Section 2 in the manual covers it.

Hi Mike, There is no drop in and go engine other than the Onan P216, P218 and P220's that were designed to fit the Onan Powered tractors. Early 416's were powered by a Kohler single cyl 16 HP motor but you would need to rewire the tractor to make it work. There are 10, 12 and 14 horse Kohlers that would bolt right on that tractor of yours Any Kohler K series, KT series and Kohler Magnum will work that have been in Wheelhorse tractors but you need to rewire the harness that is currently on your tractor. It is specific to the Onan engine that is on it. If you can find a donor Wheelhorse tractor with a Kohler engine that has a 15 amp charging circuit on it, it wouldn't be too difficult but you just can't drop another motor in it and hook it up to your existing harness. The crankshaft of another engine must be at least 2.7 inches in length. It must have a diameter of inch and an eighth and have a quarter inch keyway or you can't use your Wheelhorse PTO or the stock drive pulley. There are many Kohler engines that use a little 3 amp charging circuit where as your Onan has a 15 amp charging circuit. You would need the muffler/bracket and all the tins, (shrouds), with another engine. You could conceivably use your existing throttle and choke controls but again, depending on the engine, yours may be too long or too short to work properly with another engine. I'm sure swaps have been done by some members on here from their Onan to a Kohler or perhaps another brand. Small Engine Warehouse and Small Engines for less have new drop in engines for the 500 series Wheelhorse and I'm sure it would work with little effort on a 416 Onan tractor but you'll be paying out 1800 plus dollars for a new engine. I saw your earlier post and I don't know how much money you have to put into this tractor but if your unsure what to do yourself, find a small engine guy/shop that has a reputable history close to you and ask him/her to look at the tractor and especially the carburetor. There is also a crankcase breather element under the carb assembly that will need cleaned out. You may have bad valve seals and even a hammered valve seat in that engine but for a little money, a good shop can look at it and tell you pretty quickly if it's a carb issue and filthy crankcase breather assembly issue or if there is an internal problem. The glowing muffler is a lean mixture of fuel. That muffler isn't glowing because of too much fuel. Also check your oil level and make sure it isn't over filled and also make sure it doesn't have a gasoline smell to it. On the Onan's, you pull the stick out and whip it off and put it back in all the way including turning it snug then pull it out and read the stick. Some folks don't screw it in and overfill the crankcase. I hope this long-winded post helps some!

I finally got the transmission apart. What a mess. It appears I will need to find alot of parts. I'll get it cleaned up and see what it really looks like. Can anyone tell what transmission this is.

The flathead is the limitation, not so much the fuel system. Although it would make it run cleaner for sure. Power increase..........not sure how much, but probably a little. I like to use the 300 Inline Six ford for example, the fuel system was the bottleneck. The end cylinders got differnt air/fuel mix than the two directly by the carb. A multiport 6 injector kit, and the right setup would breath new life to that old tractor engine.

August 5th thru 8th Canandaigua N.Y. Ford and Fordson National Show http://www.pageantofsteam.org/ Ok we got a lot more NY. members now. How about joining in at the Steam Pageant! I will be there the 5th thru the 7th. Look for the Aliis-Chalmers club. I plan on being right down the row from them in the show area. Bring a tractor and show it! Cruise around and see all the neat contraptions on display. I'll have my big canopy and plan on having 4 tractors there providing the weather from now on is reasonable. This place can get swampy with lots of rain as opposed to Pa which held up well.If it looks muddy I'll just bring 1 trailer load. Come on NY let see some horses at the pageant!

Picked up a RJ35 over the weekend. The guy I bought it from says it's a 1955. It has a K91 engine, that runs pretty good, and has a 5003 transmission. From the little research I've done, I found that the 5003 trans was a dealer installed option. The trans is dated 024-9. The tractor is in decent shape, came with 2 good decks, deck belt cover and a homemade hitch. Needs a few things like a drive belt cover, correct seat, exhaust shield, steering wheel has a chunk of the rubber missing, one hub has an broken tab and uses a through bolt, etc. Right now, I'm having issues with the belt/trans. There is not enough slack in the belt when the pedal is pressed to stop the drive pulley from rotating, thus I cannot shift in to gear. I bought a bit longer belt, but that did not work. Any thoughts on what the issue could be? And as always, here are a few pictures.

This is close to as far as I took the unit alot of curve balls came my way welding , voltage regulator , bushings , etc washing before prep and paint .

Neil, I too ran into that problem when searching for ag tires for my GT14, I finally found skid steer tires that worked in the size 27x8.5x15 mounted on the original GT Rims. So you may want to try searching for skid steer tires, they can be a bit pricey, I finally found a commercial tire dealer who saved me about $60 per tire which put the total at $100/tire. Hope this helps. John Here is what I found and used, brand new 27x8.5x15

Thanks Karl for your post on this subject. I agree with Glenn, ( very well stated )

Karl. Very well stated. My hats off to you sir. Glenn

I wasn't going to reply to this topic but after a couple of PM's asking my opinion I figured I'd chime in. First and most importantly a fundamental belief that I have. Forums are communities where information is shared. RedSquare is a community for Wheel Horse enthusiasts. We are not a business and aside from forum hats and supporter packages don't sell anything. Our philosophy is and always has been to support as broad a range of collector / owners as we can. We do this through the sharing of technical information, personal friendships and a sense of community for a shared interest. We have and continue to support other communities as well, and they have supported us when we needed it too. In the end all these communities have the same goals to provide information and friendship amongst the members and visitors, and most do it very well. It's been accepted practice here to allow the posting of other forums as well as the discussion of them as long as it doesn't turn into forum bashing. To me, nothing is worse than going onto a community / forum and seeing posts about "that other forum" and how they do this, do that, ban this, edit that.... and that will not be tolerated here of WheelHorseStable or any other forum. So my opinion. I personally like RedSquare, but I have also joined up on WheelHorseStables.com. It is somewhat out of curiosity but also in support of the effort. I am certain that many of you will enjoy both forums, and some will prefer WheelHorseStables and some RedSquare, and that's okay with me, I don't feel that there needs to be a competition. No one is going to get banned from RedSquare because they joined another forum and like it better, really it's okay, there's no such thing as one size fits all in this world. Now, that said, we will insure that proper respect is given to all other communities here on RedSquare, and that means that we can't be having talk of the "other" forum. It's fine to reference posts and information on WheelHorseStables via links where applicable, but please be sure to respect the intellectual property from WheelHorseStables.com as I am sure they will respect ours on RedSquare. So that's my opinion, I hope that you are able to enjoy both, of course RedSquare a little bit more