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Don't recall ever seeing a view of any WHs from above ?, so I thought I'd catch one..............need to trim the Acer again!

My son kevin bought his first tractor two​ years ago with his own money. He bought a 1975 c160 for $250 and he was only seven years old. That started the addiction. Kevin's first tractor pull photos Fall 2013, Age 7.

I grew up with my father's 1979 c121 and inherited it in 1988 when he passed. I still have it and will never sell it. I hope to be able to pass it on to one of my kids some day.

Stuffed this 605 into the back of my '84 240 Volvo the other night as a HUGE storm was bearing down on BG Ohio. Drove through the same storm a few hours later at the East end of Ohio, but only after it had picked up a ton more energy. Anyway, here's my first "What's in your mirror" shot:

​You do indeed Koen, test drive time is not that far off now Yesterday the engine frame got the treatment.. Some final welding and a bit of smoothing out.. Here the frame is fitted to the engine so I could make a mount for the coil pack.. It always amazes me how a quick coat of paint can change how something looks... A red metal sculpture Engine and a few other bits bolted back on.. The wheels were only thrown on to see how the front end looked.. They will be coming back off to fit the new tires/tyres. A close up of the front end... Me likes how it looks Before the rear axle could go back on I had to pull it apart again! The mounting holes needed to be made slightly bigger but the brake backing plates were in the way stopping me getting the drill in... So it was easier just to pull the axles out to get the backing plates out the way. I also needed to drill a small breather hole in the top of the axle and fit a jiggle pin.. A jiggle pin is a small split pin that's a loose fit in the hole.. The idea is the pin jiggles about and stops the breather hole from getting blocked up..

My friend found me a parts tractor. He helped me drag it home and I looked at it closer. I drained the fuel tank and cleaned the carburetor and had it running in about an hour! Motor oil and trans fluid were clean and apparently had been changed not long before it got parked. It's definitely not going to be used for parts!

Wheel Horse tractor with stack, 16HP Kohler, Mac Truck hood ornament, a very focused 7 year old with camo pants and good looking pair of brogans hooked up to a weight sled! If Norman Rockwell was alive he'd be painting this! -Chris in Florida. ​

Dad, that's a slick setup for the pedals for Kevin.

My first WH was a 257H with many implements and used it for 15 years to mow and plow snow. Then I was at a dealer getting parts and picked up a derelict C145 Hydro with a 42in deck and a snowblower for $100. Then I found a C165 8sd for a bit more. Well you know ….

In 1985, my Dad decided it was time to replace the old Gravely convertible he had, since he was the only one who could start it, and it was difficult for me, my sister, or my mom to mow with. After considering a few others, he bought a new 310-8 from Hutchinson's Equipment in Hopewell Jct., NY..... In 1985 the 310 had a red grill, and he painted ours flat black, so it kinda looked a bit like the bigger Horses We (I) mowed with that for a handful of years, and made a few bucks from some neighbors, until he bought a Scag walk-behind in '91 or '92. He kept the 310 for a few more years before selling it to a long-time friend of his.... Not sure where that Horse is today. My first WH of 'my own' is the 416-H I have today that I inherited from my grandfather..... Every time I'd help him with maintenance, he'd always tell me I should keep this tractor when the time came. So when he passed, that's what I did.... Kinda feels like he's helping whenever I get to put it to work.... He was an avid (that's an understatement!) gardener, and this year the 416 tilled my garden at our home for the first time!

There are all kinds of people that get into this hobby. Some like to collect the NOS horses, some like to just collect horses, some like to flip and part them out, some like (me) like to just go to shows, see the people and keep what I have running, An NOS tractor is not for me, I have no where to keep it out of harms way, and I would trip over something with tools in my arms and dent the hood. I am one of those guys that just can't have nothing nice...for long. I envy those that can collect NOS stuff, and I really enjoy being able to see one once in a while...and I have seen this one. If you like to collect this kind of thing, you really can't count the time and gas and what ever else it took to get it. You did not buy it to sell it. If it was mine, it would be down here in the man cave, so I could enjoy it and show it off. What is it worth...price less.

Started out Friday afternoon with what I thought was a great display. Look what I found Saturday morning! Gotta love my neighbors.

All- I would like to invite all my Red Square friends to a meet and greet at my place on Saturday September 19th. I checked the local shows and the Kent show is 1 week after this on Sept. 25th & 26th and Zagary is after that. I plan on having the yard in decent shape (growing grass) by then. Hopefully we have enough time for everyone who wants to attend make arrangements to do so. More to come but please mark the date ! Note- new date is Sept. 19th...

After a dipper broke off the connecting rod, which caused the engine to throw a rod, it was time for a rebuild. I also decided, since thre engine was out and looking so good, I'd do a refresh of the entire tractor. Below are the before and after pictures of the engine refresh. Tractor pictures to follow.

Seeing Neil's post with a Mountfield ad from the sixties reminded me that I've been meaning to post some info on the Amnor factory in Belgium for just over a year now. (Sorry folks!) I managed to track down a guy who worked there from 1980-81 and who provided a snapshot of how things were at that time based on some questions I put to him. I was Manufacturing Engineer at Wheel-Horse Amnor N.V. in 1980 and 1981. It was a fast growing company (revenue increased from 10 Mio to 17 Mio and to 25 Mio Euro in 3 successive years) for the markets Europe, Middle east and North Africa and assembled from small to medium size lawn- and garden tractors. This too fast growing caused then severe cash problems and a series of take-overs by other companies started until finally the company became a Toro company which it still is. The plant mainly existed of 3 different assembly area: 1) Pre-paint assembly 2) Pretreatment (degreasing, washing, phosphating, washing, passivation and neutralizing, final washing, drying), wed paint booth, cure oven 3) Final assembly Different models were assembled in different batches (very seldom two models were assembled simultaneously). The sheet metal parts were all imported from the main plant in US, (greased but not painted). (we did not have sheet metal presses to produce the parts ourselves) The engines were Briggs and Straton (US brand) or Kholer (European Brand). The majority of the other parts were also imported from US, except when European distributors were specifically asking for European parts, meeting the metric standards, in stead of the inch standards: e.g. bearings, belts, bolts, shafts. This was to my knowledge the only difference in models. So, using parts from another model as substitution to maintain production, was never done, as far as I know. Design engineering was done completely in US and they produced the ‘first-offs’. We at Geel only started assembling when the new model was full mature. (with exception of 1 ‘walk-behind’ model which was specially and solely designed for Europe by 2 engineers in Geel). (this model was not a big success because too expensive). My thanks go to Marc S in Belgium for sharing this with us. While on the subject does anyone in the US have a copy of 'Horse Power' (Wheel Horse Collectors Club Newsletter) from November 2003. There is an item about the Amnor factory in it. I have a pdf copy but unfortunately when it was scanned a critical page was missed out. I'm hoping that somebody may have collected the newsletters and can help by scanning the article in full for me. Andy

All- Let's plan on meeting at the exit 2 (commuter lot) off Rt. 84 in Danbury, CT. on Thursday morning June 25th @6:00 am. For those of you who have not joined us before please feel free to meet us there the more the better. So I have a headcount, please respond here if you are going to meet up with us to travel down to the show. When we arrive we typically set up in the same area however feel free to set up elsewhere and just travel down with us. My boy and I are really excited for the big show this year. I will be traveling light on machines and a little more stuff to sell ..

Well I saw someone using one of these on a thread this winter and while at HF yesterday one followed me home. I have 3 GT 14's I need to start tearing down and start reviving and I thought that this might make life a lot better on my knees, If any of you have Osgood-Schlatter, you'll agree that any opportunity to avoid knee to ground contact is worth the effort. So it barely fits and is at the limit of the lifts capacity but I think its going to be very effective. Especially once I get the tractor on jack stands and get the wheel s off. Thought I would add some pics in case anyone else is considering one of these.

Some how, some way I ended up here. What the heck, going to add one that's only been seen on Junkies!

Looks like you will need a few new parts. The bearing probably seized and caused the damage. Here is what you will need: # 33, 34, 35, 35 #33 - 102872 Shaft #34 - 32120-72 Snap ring (2) #35 - 32120-62 Seal #36 - 109842 Bearing Take the pulley/housing off, pry out the seal, punch the old bearing out from behind, install new bearing, put snap ring on rear end of new pto shaft, insert it from behind, install front snap ring, install new seal. Put it all back together and get back to mowing.

My first is documented in this forum. I got it almost 2 years ago...It's the C-161 Twin Briggs in my avatar. Spent the first year doing repairs rather than restoration. It runs great and cuts well. Decided to hold off on restoration and work on my 3 GT-14's I gathered in the meantime. Along the way I also picked up a tiller and large snow plow. Made it to the big show last year. I definitely have a mild addiction:-)

here is another good picture i took today of my 212-6. looks better without wheel weights right?

The electro 12 in my avatar. My grandfather bought it in 69. I used to plow his street with it every winter for years!! It was the highlight of my day getting up early and having one of my parents drive to his place so I could plow! When he died I ended up with it. I also have the 48 inch mower deck for it. I don't use it much anymore as the sundstrand is getting weak in the knees.....can't decide if I should swap it with an eight speed I have, or try to rebuild the hydro.... Steve

Sure, you can check them without opening the trans and have a good idea about those bushings. Put the rear end on blocks and pull off the tires and the hubs. Grab the axle and see if you have any movement up and down, and then side to side. You should have little to no movement. In and out should be about 1/8", but that is normal and has nothing to do with the bushings. You can check visually, but that entails removing the axle seals. You can then see the end of the bronze bushing...a good one will appear to be about 1/16" thick all the way around...a bad one (or going bad one) will have thin places in the bronze and some slop in the axle. If you have no slop in the axles, I would leave the seals alone. Those seals are about $18 apiece and are getting hard to find. Unless someone has a few in there possession, they are only available from TORO.

I would still check that battery voltage and also do a voltage drop on the cables. Could be a combination of things lowering the voltage enough to cause an issue.

Are those the original Tires? The reason I said $1000 is because it will be a tough sell. Lets start with the people that just want a lawn mower, they can go to lowes or even a dealer and use a credit card and these people will not see the value in it. Next are the folks that want a heavy duty worker tractor and have money to spend!! They can buy a new Deere or the like with a warranty from a company still in business, they will not see the value in a 40 year old machine. That leaves tractor collectors. Now of those, let's find the ones that would be willing to drop some coin on that tractor just to have it sit somewhere, because many collectors wouldn't feel right about working a machine that nice! So your left with a collector who is willing to buy a tractor for a sizable amount just to have a conversation piece..... If someone had the means to do that wouldn't they buy a rare model? I think the tractor is beautiful, no doubt, looks like it should be in a museum, I just believe it will be hard to ACTUALLY find someone willing to pay $2500 and up, many claim it is worth that but how many would really pay it? Not trying to be insulting just a little skeptical thats all. Steve

​NOS or not, it's still 43 years old. In the throw-away society we live in today I don't think most folks see and/or appreciate quality. They look at the shiny toys at Lowes or Home Depot with more horsepower under the hood and aren't willing to pay more for a 43 year old machine then what they can buy a brand new one for. All of us here on this forum know better but let's face it, we're a minority in the big picture. We all know that this tractor will outlast numerous big box lawnmowers but trying to convince somebody who doesn't understand is quite a task.

So with the long weekend, I was able to add some safety factor to my HF lift. I added ramps, rails on the ramp, tie downs to hold the metal ramp to the wooden pieces, stops to keep from rolling too far forward and access to the lift mechanism to raise and lower it. The wrench in photo is only to denote the access hole as the lever needs to be longer to assist with torque. Once on the jack stands, I can safely pull away the wooden additions as it is centered as it would be with motorcycle and similar in weight. All the hardware I had sitting in shop so the additional cost for some lumber and I am still well below what I would have to pay out for for a wider lift. My grandaughter helping me out is a bonus:).

My First is a C161 twin 8 speed which came with a 42 inch deck snow blade chains and wheel weights. Traded a John Deere Lx188 48 inch straight across. BEST trade I have ever done!!!! Bought new blades for the deck thinking I could keep up with the 8 yards I mow. I spent 8 days in the Hospital for foot injury and while I was there it rained for 6 of the days and the grass got tall, took me over 5 hrs to mow, Had to mow the yards twice just to make them look good. So I took the deck off and going to use the C161 with the blade only and to move my Trailers around.

Anyone putting out some of their tractors for a Memorial Day theme? I put a quick one together this morning. I used to take a tractor or 2 downtown for a "Wheels on Main Street show but I would get there early for a good spot only to return and find out the Farmall guys wanted my spot and moved my display. Never again! So I have a "Private " one every year. Post them up!

​Bring as many tractors you can haul !

I'll walk around and throw stuff in the trailer, some Goodyear 26's $200 a set, a flat steering wheel for Racinbob to look at. a D grader blade set of almost new cultivators ( used once) a custom 516 8spd with 3pt. motor for a D Usually when I load I'll find stuff I don't even know I have

See this is a great thread. Lots of heavy metal that would never make it to the show if not advertised here for sale. Nice 58 Jake !!

I am not going to bring if not presold but believe I could bring these to the show. 74 b80 4 speed. Very nice tractor and comes with 36" rear discharge deck. $450 Restored Rj58, just completely rebuilt transmission a few weeks ago and runs good. Has repop belt guard but original heat shield. All tins painted with base/clear automotive paint. $1450 Late 55 rj35 with stamped frame. Missing a couple parts but mostly complete runs and drives good, very good start to restoration or leave as is $1200 RJ58/Suburban Gaskets $8 each Also may have a couple of 3 piece transmission rebuild kits available if interest For $150 which includes all bearings, bushings, seals and gaskets. May come up with some more parts as I look around, if your interested in any of this stuff please pm me and may trade if you have something that would interest me. I may be looking for a hoodstand for a 400, a soft grip steering wheel for my c160 and probably some more things that will come up as I think of them.

This is strictly hypothetical so actually is more food for thought. But that said, using the inflation factor on the US dollar, I came up with a price in 2015 for a Raider 14 of approximately $5,736.89. The way I reached this was through a 1964 Wheel Horse price list and using a model 1055 as the example which was $754.95. I then calculated that cost to 1972 which was $1004.15. That was then entered to become 2015 dollars of $5,736.89. If someone has the list price for a Raider 14 that would be great and could actually place a price for "today's dollars." That is way less than the other more sought after Wheel Horse models as in the 420LSE and the low-hour 520-H. The trouble is in today's economy no one pays list price the way it was back in the '70s. I bought four vehicles in the 70's and it wasn't until the fourth in 1978 that I was able to buy for slightly less than the MSRP. Today most consumers would expect close to 20% off so that would be $4589.51. One could buy for example a 2015 Simplicity Broadmoor for that and have more horsepower with a larger deck. Ooh - but there is the retro-look factor though. New Holland found out the hard way on that with the Boomer 8N that looked like a Ford N series. Many languished on dealer lots for longer than expected. Someone who was born in 1972 may like a tractor that is as old as they are. My interest is having a tractor from every decade I've been around. For example, for the year I was born i have a 1951 tractor that cost me $50.00 and then put another $250.00 into. That satisfies my urge.

Profit or not, it is ONE SEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXYYYYYYY tractor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love everything about it!!!!!!!! I am jealous!!!

One of the boys must have brought the heat in the middle of the night. The poor Simplicity was missing its head light and was really beat up when I found it Saturday morning! Boys will be boys!

Nice cart. The tub cart that I have and all the others that I have seen have the tub mounted on the axle. I think yours has been modified to raise the tub higher above the axle.

Thank you veterans

Well This happened earlier today. And I thought I was done.

It's scary to look at. Build some extensions or you'll have more than your knee to worry about

Started another thread (see this link)

the co worker I repaired this deck for finally got some paint on it and the finished product is pretty darn sweet!! in good light and at the certain angle if your looking you can pick out a few spots but after the first mow and a little dirt you will never know. here are some more photos

Cool topic. Mine was a beat up 551. Here are before and after pics. ">http:// ">http://

Moved to the "New" Deals and Steals section.

They canceled our Outdoor Parking Lot Sale this weekend due to the monsoons that came in. We go from winter wonderland/arctic temps to Rain and 40's. My barometric knees and back are screaming!

i have been using one for a year, it is great for working on your tractors, i know you will enjoy the lift

I believe the Kohler number is 45 083 02 which is a Napa 702226. That's if you have the large air cleaner cover

18 Automatic still in process of a "restoration" (resto-mod) is more like it. A before and after picture. I would have posted more pics but file size was to big.