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Beautiful day in southeast Indiana. Had the herd out for a little run and exercise. From left to right - '95 520H, '93 416H, '82 C195, '83 C175.

Since Bob has bumped this thread, (thanks Bob!) i thought id share a decal change that #1 is going through right now. #1 has been more than earning its keep lately with all the snow we've had. the tall chute blower/416 combo is just tearing up the snow around here. couldn't ask for more from this revived from the dead blower, the auger has a small balance problem which needs to be sorted, but for now its going to be used as is for the rest of the winter........ so since #1 has been working so hard its getting a reward with new decals, hood and seat pan decals are done and on the tractor, just waiting for the hood stand side decals to arrive in the mail and they will be on too..... Thanks Terry for putting up with me again!!!! #1 hasn't had much time in this thread of late so here are some pics..... this will be the hood stand side decal design, probably should have waited until i got these on too, but whatever, i feel like posting something right now...........

For anyone wondering what an E-81 is.... With a fully charged battery(s) this would be a great swap-meet or flea-market or tractor show cruiser!! Mike.........

Well,I really didn't need another 416H,but you know how it goes.I've been watching this 416H on Craigslist for about 3 weeks.With all the snow we've gotten lately,I couldn't believe it wasn't sold by now.Went and looked at it yesterday,made an offer, and brought it home.Has a single stage tall chute blower,plastic wheel weights,and tire chains.It's a 1995.I think it's the newest Horse in my stable.Just over 400 hours.I haven't been overly impressed with the 2 stage blowers.I'm gonna try this one out.Maybe I'll have 2 or 3 two stage for sale here soon.I can't believe the shine on the original paint on this tractor.Gotta put my cab on it for next Winter.Enjoy the pics.

Again with the spell check.....Should have noticed something fishy. Not sure if its a FLUKE or what but usually leaves me crabby when it does this.

I think you'll need both... one to mow with, the other to plow them spuds.

Kicked back some piles with Elvis to make room for more of the white stuff!

Also I drill 1/8" pilot holes first then go bigger if bigger than 3/8" I go 1/4" then up sometime trying to drill a big hole from the start don't work

Constant collisions with snow banks will catch up to any machine after awhile. Mostly knocking things loose! If you tighten things up during and after winter, maybe not so bad. Just remember the steering takes a shot from your own body's inertia with every sudden stop or hit. Make sure your battery is held down nice and tight too! I think it was Newton that stated "objects in motion tend to stay in motion". It isn't good for it and over time, it will hurt it verses if you didn't constantly slam into snow banks. Issac Newton................Fig Newtons......................Fig Newtons with a rum and coke! I wonder how those two would go together? Whoops! Lost my train of thought. Doctors said it was from constant deceleration from slamming my tractors into snowbanks!

Wheel Horse Senior & Lever Steer registry update !! So far we have 26 Seniors and 14 Lever Steers on the list, The State with the most Seniors goes to Ohio with Indiana 1 behind. The battle for the most Lever Steers is a tie with Ohio and Michigan. Please help add to the list, if you have a Senior or Lever Steer or know someone that does send me a message and I will add it, Just need basic info Name, State, Year if known, Hooded or not for the Senior. Thanks to everyone for all your Help !! Ron Greco rsgreco@embarqmail.com

Per PM request here is pic of mine along with the serial number of the engine.

Somebody will have a Wheel Horse mounted generator you could plug into....as long as you don't mind doing yer hair in the middle of the showgrounds! Mike..........

Found very hard to find Wheel horse tractor today. I got a call from a friend a few days ago who knew a friend that knew a friend that his cousin knew a friend's mom and his moms dad had this tractor lol. Well it was a sweet barn find Wheel horse 420LSE!!! The production plate is missing on the hood but the owners manual I think it's number #77... Awesome Find!!!! I don't even know the value on these tractors don't see to many up for sale.Its been sitting for years now but I fire up engine and runs very good. Overall tractor is in good shape and needs alot TLC. Super excited!!

Its been sitting in a garage since 1980. I also have the part that goes under the tractor but I have to pull it out of storage for a photo. The back has a slight bump but I have sure it can be restored. Not sure what all is in it but I think with a little work it could be up and running. Thinking of selling it in the future to someone who would fit it up. Just collecting more information about it. Had no clue Wheel Horse was so well loved!

When I worked at Napa. I started replacing my worn/broken bits with the std. Napa Hand Tool line of drill bits. They were just plain std bits made by the same Co. that made B & D. They were the best bits ever. super sharp and lasted. I was replacing lot's of ball joints on the Chevy trucks and they worked the best on the rivets. That was 15 yrs. ago. Who know who makes the bits now. We had a retired engineer who was a good customer that came in one day and the conversation turned to drill bit sharpening. He said the drill doctor only sharpens the point and there were several different angles in one bit. He offered to sharpen all of my bits by hand from 3/16 on up. I got them back 2 weeks later and it was unbelievable how easy they cut.He told me when the bits are made the machines can only sharpen them so much on one pass and it would cost a fortune for the companies to make bits as sharp as he could!

I love digging thru boxes loaded with misc hand tools at flea markets and stumbling across a good name brand. About 4 years ago a guy had a box out with a $2 each sign on it.....dug thru it and found a Snap-On L710 1/2" drive ratchet that was perfect! Been using it for 4 years now. Just spent 2 hours under my truck last night on a cold concrete floor swapping out a snapped front sway bar link and once again I used my $2 Snap-on ratchet! Mike..........

That lil tractor never worked up a sweat. Thanks for the vid Craig Rick

If a knot head like me can convert a horizontal Allis-Chalmers blower to fit a vertical Toro/ Wheel Horse 210-H anything is possible!

I expect to see a pic of that within your property line today!

Ron, Is it possible to see the list of owners ?

Enough Roundhouse.....clam up

All great suggestion. Just try to keep the seafood out of the onan. Especially shellfish, really tends to clog things up Sorry, cracked me up this morning.

I have made a few signs but not many.. these signs I made was cut out of thin 1/8" either oak or ask (depending on the sign pictured) and then glued to either walnut or heat modified poplar. They are finished with clear house paint. which is the best you can get for being in the elements.. Better than that expensive stuff they say is designed for outdoor use by a long shot. It is nothing more than buying exterier house paint and having them not put any color in it.. It looks white but will dry clear. Anyway I had been contemplating offering something just like these shown but with the Wheel Horse Logo on each end.. They would be a nice feature to hang at the shows.. with either your name or your screen name to people would know who you are.. Anyway these here I made for friends or family this last Christmas. Picture of the roosters and the jeep are Ash glued to walnut. Sorry for the poor quality photos but these are before they had a finish and my cheap phone camera.The one with the eagles is made of oak and a two sided sign and glued to a poplar board that I baked in the oven for an hour to make it dark like walnut.. If there is enough interest I may be convinced to make a few with the W.H. logo.. Measures about 15" long and 5" tall

My Electro light switch has done its time so I have been on the look out for one. Sure enough one pops up on eBay NOS with correct part #. Before you know it this thing sells for $37.00 .I guess that guy really had to have it. Did a little research and found that it is a Cole Hersee. Sure enough its in their catalogue with all the specs, dimensions...etc. A little more searching and they pop up everywhere. Got two for a total of $14.00 and they even sent a free little led flash light. Bezel is a little undersized even though specs are the same as original, however the bezel is interchangeable with the new switches, it just clips on. New bezel does fit correctly and cover cutout if one wants to use it. So just do a little research. These things are out there.

look at the angle lever where it is banging into the brake pedal. note that there is a square notch ( or should be) on the opposite side of the angle lever. disconnect and flip the angle lever around. you will need to flip the angle lever hardware too but if you download the owners manual, it has the instructions. that notch is for any of the models that had the brake on the right. with the hydro, it doesn't matter.

I have a 414-8 and I have done everything with it from mowing to tilling to plowing snow! Have bought brinly implements and a hitch for gardening this year. I collect the older ones but he 414-8 is a true worker and that M14 engine is bullet proof. you'll have to get other member opinions on the 16 HP engine in that particular machine. WELCOME TO REDSQUARE ! . I do agree with Craig though!

There is the start of your problem - wrong switch. The original is part number 111215 replaced by 103991 at any Toro dealer. A Napa replacement is 7-01893 Don't get them mixed up because the only difference is the I on one and the M on the other. You must use the M. That should eliminate the short at the pto switch. Let us know what happens next. I hope no further damage was done. Garry

No offense taken I think its funny to.

Nice, needs some dancing rain caps next.

Looks like a mad bull. Nice

I thought about tent camping too. I still don't have the okay to go, but I'm working on it. Tent camping would save us some big $$. I have a tent and a sleeping bag! But I need a place to plug in my hair dryer and curling iron!

Don't make 'em the way they used to. The old Kohlers are dependable with oil changes and clean fuel. The '85 416-8 won't be stopped! Each time I fire up an old Kohler I wish I was in as great a shape. Those old Kohlers will be here after I quit breathin'! Grandsons inheritance fo' sure.

Ron, that's a great idea keeping a registry of the Seniors and Lever Steers. Do you know how many were originally manufactured and/or are estimated to exist today compared to the number actually registered so far?

The blue wire should not have power in it. If power gets to the ignition coil you will be looking for a replacement coil and that blue wire should be connected to the coil. That is why I suggested you disconnect the negative battery cable - simply a step to preserve the coil. I hope the ignition coil is still OK. You need to find out how that blue wire is getting power. When disconnecting a battery always disconnect the negative cable first - then disconnect the positive cable last. When hooking a battery back up connect the positive cable first - then connect the negative cable last. The reason for this is if you accidentally short the wrench on the positive post to the chassis no harm is done because the negative post is not connected. Now that the positive cable is on if you short the wrench on the negative post to the chassis still no harm done because they are both ground. Garry

I wish I thought of that one!

Yeah Mike... another basket case.

Well I sadly won't be fabricating the rear end loader...instead the guy I'm getting the tractor. from will also be selling one of the few front end loaders that were designed for it. (I had no idea he had this) anyways I will be starting a tractor refresh thread as well with the loader in it to within the next few weeks I hope you all check it out in the restoration section later

Cutlas 3391... Congrats on your newest addition ! With all the interest shown on the 420 LSE I'm really amazed that I did not get a SINGLE inquiry/response when I listed mine (#51) some time ago here on RED SQUARE and also on e-bay.

3 hours sleep over the last two days... haven't been smiling too much lately.

Yes, it's good to see when experimentation agrees with theory. The rectifier / regulator circuit board contains a component that acts as a voltage regulator within the voltage regulator. This device will always show a 5 volt voltage drop across itself when the input voltage rises to 5 volts and above. This becomes a non changing voltage "reference" inside the RR assy. In the 2nd image shown below, it's the little red guy 3rd component from the right - officially called a Zener diode - a tried and true voltage regulating diode. Several of the non functional RR's I have looked at were repaired by simply re-soldering a few connections on the pcb. Circuit board flexing due to heat, old age and vibration can break solder joints on the RR boards and result in defective charging systems. In the 1st image seen below, note how the resistor pulled out of the solder joint with ease. This is a "cold" solder joint that did not cold weld the lead of the resistor to the copper traces of the circuit board. The RR lost its "reference" and became inoperative.

Use a slower speed and a lubricating oil so that you don't dull the bit. Drill a small pilot hole first. Once that is through it is easier, and then use progressively larger bits.

WOW! things have been crazy busy around here, made a little time in the shop this week, and some quality time with the welder today. I took a 1257 belt guard which was way too long! I shortened it by a couple inches to fit between the toolbox and the motor (no I didn't leave it this long either wouldn't want to rub on the crankshaft) made a few cuts to match the profile of the hood stand I added tabs and welded everything back together filling a few holes so I can drill my own later. And as mentioned in the previous post the hood still managed to be short, so I had to cut and add another 1 3/4" section to the length here it is mocked up I need to make little patches for the sides of the hood. other than some welding on the hood I think this is the last of the BIG modifications, hope you like it!!

I bought this rust bucket from John Campbell over a year ago. it had a nice wheel horse high back seat. Worth what I paid for the tractor. It was rusty and had a broken rod. Few weeks ago I decided not to part it out and bring it back to life. a quick sand blast and lots of wet sanding rust pits, its all back together. I didn't have any intention of making this a show tractor. John claims it is now. I have to clean up some wiring and finish the deck and its all finished.

Here's my 1257 I built this summer, added 8 speed trans, rebuild 12hp kohler, rebuilt starter generator, new wiring with solenoid. Love mine glad I built it. It's my go to horse. Tom

Ken , previous owner was a vintage car dealer & had this car for years , he didn't really want to sell it but said he needed the space. I have only had the car a couple of weeks to haven't managed to get her up to top speed yet but i am told will it will reach a scary 15 mph .

A few pics of the completed hitch

Finally got the snow crew ready, and even got to try it out a little.

Captain Planet hahaha, Captain Wheel Horse maybe?

Do any of you have any advice for making a D180 a dually w/ Turf tires? I am told that I need a ring in between the rims (12") and some long carriage bolts or threaded rod. Does anyone sell a kit or at least the rings? Thanks, Mike