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I wasn't going to reply to this topic but after a couple of PM's asking my opinion I figured I'd chime in. First and most importantly a fundamental belief that I have. Forums are communities where information is shared. RedSquare is a community for Wheel Horse enthusiasts. We are not a business and aside from forum hats and supporter packages don't sell anything. Our philosophy is and always has been to support as broad a range of collector / owners as we can. We do this through the sharing of technical information, personal friendships and a sense of community for a shared interest. We have and continue to support other communities as well, and they have supported us when we needed it too. In the end all these communities have the same goals to provide information and friendship amongst the members and visitors, and most do it very well. It's been accepted practice here to allow the posting of other forums as well as the discussion of them as long as it doesn't turn into forum bashing. To me, nothing is worse than going onto a community / forum and seeing posts about "that other forum" and how they do this, do that, ban this, edit that.... and that will not be tolerated here of WheelHorseStable or any other forum. So my opinion. I personally like RedSquare, but I have also joined up on WheelHorseStables.com. It is somewhat out of curiosity but also in support of the effort. I am certain that many of you will enjoy both forums, and some will prefer WheelHorseStables and some RedSquare, and that's okay with me, I don't feel that there needs to be a competition. No one is going to get banned from RedSquare because they joined another forum and like it better, really it's okay, there's no such thing as one size fits all in this world. Now, that said, we will insure that proper respect is given to all other communities here on RedSquare, and that means that we can't be having talk of the "other" forum. It's fine to reference posts and information on WheelHorseStables via links where applicable, but please be sure to respect the intellectual property from WheelHorseStables.com as I am sure they will respect ours on RedSquare. So that's my opinion, I hope that you are able to enjoy both, of course RedSquare a little bit more

I finally figured out how to download these pictures. This particular one goes about 25 mph. Its also dirty in these pictures because I was out playing with it. What do you all think?

So so you can keep up with the latest Traffic lights with countdown indicators . A pen that lets you scan and write in any color. Wall outlets with USB chargers. It should also come with a built-in night light . And the ultimate outlet would also have extension cords built into the wall . Small tiles you can attach to your keys, wallet, computer, or pretty much anything. If you lose anything, you can then look up their location on your Smartphone . Fresh pizza vending machines . Benches that you can turn to always have a dry seat . Power strips that you can expand and rotate . Mug that catches any drips . Parking garages with lights showing open spaces . Stairs with slides . Supermarkets with build your own 12-packs of soda . How to stop littering . Back pack with hood -- where was this when I was in school? Device that charges your phone from hot or cold drinks. Or this solar powered charger. Water fountains with built-in water bottle filling station. Subways where you can pay by recycling. Device to lift the Pringles up. A fun way to clean. A hair brush that is easy to clean . Ear buds that won’t tangle. USB rechargeable batteries. Packing tape that is easy to open. Bike racks that don’t take up sidewalk space. Caution signs that are funny. Movie theater screens in the bathroom so you don’t miss anything. Even better if the theater has bean bag seats. And a Red Garden Tractor that just goes on and on and does everything . . . Oh, we have that, a Wheel Horse. ct: RE: What's new in 2015

Don't know how I missed this little tidbit of entertainment the last few days ... but all I can say is ...wow ....

Add one more to the "very well stated Karl" pile. Very well written and thought out

Being a younger man, a couple years before 30 I didn't grow up with these older tractors and systems. I have been enjoying learning about how these old starter/generators work on our beloved horses. After venturing through my first teardown (cleaning commutator and new brushes/ bearings) things seem a little simpler and my want to further check these things out before putting them back to service enticed me to buy this little gem. I know there are ways of checking armatures out with multi-meters, but there is something about preserving these old tractors, along with the technology and nostalgia of these old tools. I have re-wired the whole unit (except for the transformer), and turned it on for the first time today and she worked! just thought I'd share.

Well,I really didn't need another 416H,but you know how it goes.I've been watching this 416H on Craigslist for about 3 weeks.With all the snow we've gotten lately,I couldn't believe it wasn't sold by now.Went and looked at it yesterday,made an offer, and brought it home.Has a single stage tall chute blower,plastic wheel weights,and tire chains.It's a 1995.I think it's the newest Horse in my stable.Just over 400 hours.I haven't been overly impressed with the 2 stage blowers.I'm gonna try this one out.Maybe I'll have 2 or 3 two stage for sale here soon.I can't believe the shine on the original paint on this tractor.Gotta put my cab on it for next Winter.Enjoy the pics.

I disagree, he's not abusing it. You wont burn out the eaton pushing snow in high gear... All of the eatons up until the XI series ONLY had "high gear". Pushing snow/dirt is harder on it than mowing, but they were designed for that. There are MANY 30+ year old hydros still going strong. I DO agree though, that if you have the traction (weights and chains) that slow and steady is the more effective in most conditions... There are plenty of times i've had to just get some momentum behind it and I am just careful to make sure I'm not going to 'hit a wall' with it. If you feel the case it will be hot, the eaton manual states that operating temps can and should be up around 180*F. If you are getting hotter than that, then it is an issue, but I doubt you are.

Just wanted to thank you guys for your help. Just got a new fuel pump installed today and the tractor fired right up and kept going. For anyone who is interested this is the model I got. http://www.amazon.com/Airtex-E8016S-Electric-Fuel-Pump/dp/B000C1LW0E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1423252669&sr=8-1&keywords=Airtex+E8016S+Electric+Fuel+Pump I hooked the positive wire to the ignition on the switch and before I go to start the engine I let it sit there for a second to let the gas get to the carb. Then I start the engine and it fires right up. Now onto the snow blower.

It's actually pretty difficult roasting nuts, in single digit temps...hence the wool jacket.

Go it back together today...rear end actually ended up being pretty bad., one of the bushings was badly worn, which made the axle move up and down which just about destroyed the axle/gear as well as the other gear. Luckily I had a parts tractor I bought at the big show that had gears in it I used to fix this one. Also noticed it only drove from one wheel, it looks this one was messed up from the factory as they welded the plate on backwards that cause the pauls to engage, the hub is however in great shape on that side which is a plug, to get it driving again just ended up welding where the dimples were and now it guides the springs and the paul engages driving the wheel! Also cleaned up the spindles old dried up grease and got everything nice and smooth, also added a set of the pins that go in the tie bar which helped tighten it up some. Here's a few pictures of it in progress and back together, Gear case cover cleaned up... where the plate was installed wrong and welded hubs/pauls cleaned up and back side of the case and finally a shot before the cover was installed Back on all 4's

To put the trans back on to the frame it really helps to take a couple of 3/8 x 2" bolts...cut the heads off and the burrs from that...use those bolts, as studs, in opposite holes to line up the trans on the frame. It makes it so much easier to start and tighten the other 2 bolts...then remove the studs with a pair of pliers and place the last 2 bolts. This is the best tip there is.

Geno, thanks for posting in this thread finally. I do not think anyone wishes you "ill will" with what you are doing. Actually, I wish you luck in what you are trying to do. I just think you went about it wrong...as it was stated you were trying to run a business. Quite honestly, your attitude is going to keep me from being a part of your endeavor. Your post #40 is testament to what I am saying. I wish you no ill will and I hope it works for you...I hope you understand that I will not be a part of your ego. Fair winds and following seas Mate.

Join a forum and in less than 12 months as a member start advertising your own forum.

OK Blue...what is it...honestly??? Geno has said nothing in this thread...it is all just a few guys speaking for him. I feel like I am in the 5th grade again.

Gentlemen...I have to add this. If you are going to have a site to enhance your business (which makes perfect since), why would you want to have it closed to members only?? I would think that I would want to make it available to any Ja-moke that was interested in what Geno has for sale, prices for things, and a list of inventory. Just thinking.

Why another WH site?

Wheel Horse Senior & Lever Steer registry update !! So far we have 26 Seniors and 14 Lever Steers on the list, The State with the most Seniors goes to Ohio with Indiana 1 behind. The battle for the most Lever Steers is a tie with Ohio and Michigan. Please help add to the list, if you have a Senior or Lever Steer or know someone that does send me a message and I will add it, Just need basic info Name, State, Year if known, Hooded or not for the Senior. Thanks to everyone for all your Help !! Ron Greco rsgreco@embarqmail.com

What I didn't show on my exhaust stack Engine Run was what I had hidden under the yellow rag. I have procured the Parts and fabbed some and have put together a remote oil filter Kit for the Onan P220G Engines. The Oil Filter on these presently blocks approx 35% + of the airflow to the rear Cylinder? Could this be part of the reason for the Valve Seat Problem Due to the increased heat? what I do know it sure doesn't help. spending a good majority of my life dealing with Heat Transfer of one type or another I can see where the filter is located on these engines, could cause a problem. The pluses to having a remote mounted oil filter would be. 1. Increased Oil Capacity 2. Increased Filter Capacity (Larger Filter) 3. Broader Range of Filter Availability. 4. Easier Filter Changing. 5. Reduced Rear Cylinder Temperature's. The Oil Filter adapter Part (4) on the drawing below # 122-0369 is No Longer Being Offered Since Nov 2010. Onan told me that Is when they quit Offering These and their last price before that time just for that Part # 122-0369 was over $200.00. To purchase all the parts to make up one of these kits would cost around $ 450.00 I currently found an Onan Dealer that had the adapters and I have purchased all that he had. What I have left is 12 of these adapters, and will be putting together 12 complete kits to convert these engines oil filters over remotely. I will be selling these Kits for $285.00 for a Wix/Nappa Gold filter or $300.00 For an Amsoil Filter with Nano Fiber Technology filtering down to 20 microns. Just the These prices includes shipping. If anyone wants just the Oil Filter Adapter Part (4) it will be $175.00 Shipping is Included and I will ship the adapter Immediately. Here is what you will Get in the Kit 1 Oil Filter Adapter 1 Oil Filter Adapter Gasket 2 1 1/4" Bolts. 2 1/2 X 3/8 300 PSI push on barbed fittings. 2 1/4 X 3/8 300 PSI push on barbed fittings. 10' 3/8 300 PSI Braided Hose 1 Filter Blank off with Oil Line Holes 1 Remote Oil Filter bracket & Hardware 1 Oil filter as explained above. Anyone Interested in this Kit for the price above, PM Me.They will be offered on a fist come first serve basis.sometime early spring before mowing season starts. If no interest shown, Not a problem Ill put them on flee bay, but not for this price. Here are some Pics and examples of how much the oil filter blocks the airflow to the head and the components and the increased size of the filter & finally a Movie of it Opperating.

These are two more horses I found recently. I'm trying to get them bought also. Please post up any info on them.

A little humor from Texas. Get most of these from out of state...hmmm.

I wish I thought of that one!

Pushing snow banks back is no problem as long as they are not frozen solid, and stop you like your hitting a wall. I can stack snow quite high with the 522xi. As I plow into the bank I raise the plow at the same time to push the bank up higher. Do you have wheel weights on in addition to the rubber chains? If you don't, wheel weights and two link steel chains make the 5xi a monster in the snow and ice. I have been using 5xi's with a snow blower and plow for the past 10 years to clear a 550 foot driveway and never got it stuck. I have both weights and chains for this tractor listed on the classified page if your interested. Rick

Well I sadly won't be fabricating the rear end loader...instead the guy I'm getting the tractor. from will also be selling one of the few front end loaders that were designed for it. (I had no idea he had this) anyways I will be starting a tractor refresh thread as well with the loader in it to within the next few weeks I hope you all check it out in the restoration section later

Again with the spell check.....Should have noticed something fishy. Not sure if its a FLUKE or what but usually leaves me crabby when it does this.

I took it upto around 15 mph and I started to get G force in my face lol, you are probably right she would do a tad more mph. It just so happens that I bought another one last week

IMO the best way is to clean the tractor up remove dirt, grease and grime then I use marvel mystery oil on my originals I put it in a spray bottle lightly spray it on wipe off with a clean cloth it gives the patina a nice semi gloss finish with no nasty odor or oily residue it seems to penetrate the paint, when you wash tractor or if it gets wet the water beads up like if it were waxed. I personally would not clear coat the original patina.

Great video Craig, thanks for sharing. I assume that engine keeps you warm. I mean considering where it's located. Right ?

I like the method described above, and I was going to do that with my 416-H, but when I checked the clearance of the circuit board, it was very tight. Just trying to get the LED's to line up and slip into the tiny rubber grommets was a pain without the modification. I opted to do it this way. I'm sure that in the long run, yours will be stronger.

Nice cab. Have the same exact style on my 212. It will COOK you out of the cab if you keep the side panels closed. I run with the left one open. It allows the heat from the right side to circulate a little more. Rob

Those water bottle coolers go for around $2500 ea. They wanted to know how much to install 5 of them in our nursing college a few month's ago. Let's just say I installed 3 standard coolers for the price of 1.

Not to hijack the thread, but it also had wheel weights mounted inside the hubs. I estimate the machine's weight to be about 1300lbs in that configuration. It didn't have chains on it, and would push 6" of the wet-heavy stuff straight up that driveway --which is about 80' long and an incline of about 35 degrees. Can't say I miss it, though. Wasn't fun to work on --not that it really ever needed it. I prefer my small, nimble tractors.

C'mon Craig, are you hauling that snow in just to make great videos, I used the leaf blower to clean the dust off my driveway this morning while the 520 sat in the garage pouting.

Pulley swap. 1 1/2 inch on the back and I think I got a 4 inch on the front. We've got another one that we can do 40 on Put a five speed in the back with a seven inch pulley on the front.

The 2nd best tip is go out to a store and buy a pair of good grippy gloves for the wife/girlfriend. That way she won't drop the trans on you when she picks it up to install on the frame and you're lying underneath ready to start the bolts!

I treated myself today to this little beauty, It's a Hohner professional JT60 or the (Hollywood) dates back to the early 90's has what they call an ATN (advance tonal network) by adjusting the two "tone" controls you can create different guitars sounds, Strat Tele, LP, and the like. That may sound like a sales pitch, but I reckon it aint half bad.

I am currently going to school to be a mechanic. I am fortunate enough that my instructors grew up with these generators and growlers and are willing to spend some extra time teaching me more about them.

I don't need a cab. I need a driver so I can watch it all happen from my window!

Use a slower speed and a lubricating oil so that you don't dull the bit. Drill a small pilot hole first. Once that is through it is easier, and then use progressively larger bits.

Maybe it's just me but this sure seems to be heading in the direction that defies the one rule. "Just be nice?" Oh wait....that's a different site. Never mind.

I will try to answer everything one at a time Steve. I know there are a lot of questions out there. I didn't build the site to enhance my business. I built it so whoever bought something from me could get help when they needed it from people that could help, especially when I'm not around. When warm weather hits I will be gone a lot. That's why the decal has the site and phone on it and doesn't even mention sales or service. If you concentrate solely on service the sales will follow. I've never advertised in my lifetime, ever. My business has never even had a sign, a name on the building, or the mailbox. It's even pretty much hidden with trees on a hill, and people here who have been to my shop will tell you that it is hard to find even though it's on a main 4 lane highway. I have always said if you treat people right they will beat the door down to get to you. Seems like someone who retired at 52 to play with the Horses has proven that point pretty well. It took me 2 weeks to get the board the way I wanted it, then I wanted about 2 more weeks with the mods to find the obvious bugs, run it through some paces, and do moderator training. Being the Admin, I couldn't even see what other groups could see. It is still member and my customers only now to give it a better shakedown and I'm finding a few more things I have to fix. I'm not new to this board thing either, I owned one over 12 years ago with 60K members. If things stay the way they have been I may never even mention what I have for sale on my site, like I never did here. It's hard to mention what's for sale when I have 14 on a waiting list right now. I can't get them restored fast enough. My CL ad even says the ones pictured are sold and we are getting others ready because we can't keep up... That is what I'm up to as far as sales go, but there is a whole lot more coming. We are also turning a part of the shop it into a fabrication area and going to get much deeper into parts this year We have a shear, roller and brake on the way now. You guys should know by now when I do something I don't mess around...

I signed up on Geno"s site yesterday. I still love Red Square and I am a lifetime supporter but it's all about tractors and a bunch of nice guys and gals talking tractors.That's what we all have in common. What could be more fun than that ?

At this point Geno's site is a forum....kind of like this one....not nearly as polished...but it is a forum....and a nice one too! He is only allowing members to join up for stability purposes but eventually will allow guests... I personally like Geno...I have met him and he is genuine. Loves Wheel Horses!! I have joined his forum and plan to frequent his site, RS, as well as MTF.... Be patient...it is FCFS at this point. Why another forum you ask... Well...why another restaurant.....why another anything.....choices...it's all about choices.... If it is only RS then we all get shoehorned into one culture....I like choices...

Yes Blue. Some of us already know that.

I agree with this. This is why I bult the bucket the size that it is. Its smaller then a snow bucket you normally see on these loaders, as I do not want to put the tractor on its side or nose over. I new that it is a yard helper and in no way a bobcat when I put this togeather, But I am very happy with its performance for what it is!

Let me just say that I was in no way questioning your workmanship. After I wrote that post I looked at several loaders and noticed that (like you said) all are designed that way. Sorry you're having trouble getting it to run right. I'm sure you'll get it working perfectly. I just bought my daughter (14 going on 40) a Sony Handycam so she can video some of my projects when she visits me. It's a great way to spend time together without her getting her hands dirty. lol

It is always good to hear about successful conclusion to a problem. The folks on this forum are always willing to pitch in and lend a helping hand when needed. I have often added a ground wire to one of the bolts holding the solenoid to the frame.

I picked up the fittings that I needed to finish the plumbing on the lines today and some hoses resized for a better fit. After getting it all plumed up I started to fill it with oil and bleed the system. I found out 2 gallons was too much. I need to put some kind of sight glass to know the level of the tank. It squirted oil out the vent all over the place. [emoji107] too cold out to dig the hose and purple power to wash it off. Any how it works ok but I need to get a better belt. This cheep one stretched out fast! There was no feathering of the levers for slow movement. I am thinking it was the slipping belt causing this. I ran it many times through all the motions and felt the speed of the bucket up and down was very good. Tilt was a little slower but still very acceptable. Any how pics of the loader and 3 point on at the same time. This one has all 4 tires off the ground eaven know it doesn't look it the rears are about 1" in the air. Very happy so far [emoji3] It fits in the 12' deep shed with about 6" to spare.

Keep in mind that the fuel shutoff valve has an integral filter. Therfore an in line filter only adds to the trouble. The carbs will tolerate some dirt, and it is not the end of the world if they need to be cleaned. With it running rich as you say, I believe an adjustment is all you need. However it would not hurt to clean it, just set the bowel o-ring aside or when you spray with carb cleaner it will grow in diameter big time & you will be very mad.......