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Well the story continues, revenge has been served. Yesterday I had to visit the big box store that my neighbor bought his tractor from. As I got into the lawn and garden area I heard someone raising there voice with one of the sales associates. Wouldn't you know it, there was m y neighbor raising heck with the sales associate. I had an idea what he was upset about. I continued to look what I came in for then ventured back over to the lawn and garden area. While I was checking out some other stuff the associate came over to ask if I needed help. Well I could not help myself I had to mention I noticed he had a up set customer. He chuckled and said yeah. He told me that the guy had come in wanting to return his lawn tractor because trying to pull a heavy roller thru some new landscaping up and down his lawn he blew the transmission out of it. The sales guy was trying to point out to him that it says right in the manual it does not recommend pulling a roller as it puts too much strain on the transmission. So revenge has been served, I thought about driving the Ol' C-145 down there pulling my big roller but no since in throwing gas on the fire. I will bet he won't stop by again.

Well, here is what has worked for me, in the past. Casually take your horse for a stroll, down the street, to his house. Make like you are thinking about purchasing one of those POS's. Put yours along side of his. Ask him all kinds of questions about his vs. yours. Look it over real good, usually about this time, I spring the final question. Do you mind if we test their HP strength? I have never had anyone turn this opportunity down. They are usually so pumped about all the questions and now, "he can really prove to ME" just how much a POS it is. Course he has no idea that just becasue his has 26hp and only weighs in at 480lbslbs. that 26hp LT/POS will be in for the fight of it's life against your's that is nearly double that in weight, but only 14hp. Once you pull him backwards, and probably hear something snap in his transmission, you can just sit their, smile and say whatever comes to your mind at that time....

In my quest to find a 1045 that I could afford. I bought this 1257 and rebuilt motor/ starter generator and removed fender pan and installed tool box with round hood fenders, 8 speed trans. Little oil on the tins. This is my 1045/1257. I like how it turned out. Thanks for looking Tom

416-8 used for digging and moving dirt 418-C and 2 stage blower for snow removal 654 for pushing snow and dirt 855 for mowing and a bunch of little round hoods for cruising around the engine shows

Was another fine day today.

That is too funny!..... Perfect..... I don't know but I think I'd have to pour jusssst a little bit of salt on that wound.

Thats not a V8, thats the starter for the other two engines, lol. What a machine.

hauling people and everything i can (seat moves up and down with 3 point) dragging dragging driveway and green tractors.

It's funny because when AMC and Munn owned Wheelhorse, nobody called them AMC/Wheelhorse or Munn/Wheelhorse. Here is how I see it...........If it has the Wheelhorse brand on the tractor, it's a Wheelhorse, period. If it's a continuation of a WH model even if it doesn't say Wheelhorse on it, it's still a Wheelhorse. None of my tractors built during the Toro age are referred as Toro's. They aren't. They are true Wheelhorses or Toro/Wheelhorse if you wish. . To Cocky-Rocky.............If it wasn't for Toro and their marketing and management at the time, we wouldn't have many tractors to use or collect. They could have shut the line down and cranked out cheap imitations of both the garden tractor and lawn tractor lines calling them anything they wanted! But they didn't! They manufactured what were in essence, true over-built, over-engineered, heavy Wheelhorse tractors. The garden tractor line accepted the same WH implements as far back as the late 1960's for 16 more years ending in 2001 in one form or another and all this during a shift in society for cheaper, throw away when they wear out equipment. They even created what many consider bigger, better versions of the WH designs with the Xi Garden Tractors until 2005. They even kept the parts for the older tractors and those they continued to manufacture available for a long time. Just imagine if if MTD had bought them out. I owned a 1975 HD Sportster that I traded even up for my 1980's C-175 with a deck and a plow. As you said, AMF kept HD afloat but destroyed their reputation for quality. Toro kept WH going and did it without much sacrifice on quality at all. My 310-8, 416-8 and 520-H are Wheelhorses. Your 267H was designed by Toro but influenced by Wheelhorse. Look at that tractor and how heavy it is built verses what you would buy now for a similar lawn tractor. You have every right to call it a Wheelhorse. Because it is.

As promised, more photos.

What Bob said...Thanks for letting us know. Glad you found and fixed the problem.

Glad you found the problem. Thanks for letting us know what the resolution was. It is always helpful to others who may have the same or similar situation.

Im glad some people feel like that. Leaves more for us.

I can't imagine one good reason why... you stopped that gorgeous to entertain his nonsense in the first place. .

More pics!!

Thanks pal ! It's sitting on jack stands (front only) with the front wheels still on, parking brake on, rear wheels chocked, in park in a level garage! It's sitting on the stands only to get the oil pan off, then it comes down again since I can work under the Jeep without it being hoisted up.

Glad I read through this. You may have just given me the solution for the same problem

http://myoldmachine.com/topic/1079-rural-pastimes-day-1-picts/#entry10614 Take a look here, even some wheel horse stuff too

The 701 this past winter in NE Ky....

If the keys have a mark on the the sides you can see they will move and you will never be able to keep the hubs tight. Replace the keys and the setscrews, hubs are not cheap and will get looser if it keeps moving.

Yes, this sounds like something I have done before, believe it or not, with r/c cars. 1/10 scale axel pins held by set screws definitely benefit from a small notch where the set screw sits. I like it. I'm gonna try this fix since it won't cost anything. I'm flat broke...

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You can bet your bippy... I'd have my set up with a roller... for the sole purpose of doing hot laps with it every time he drives by. Give him the big smile, a friendly wave, and don't forget the loud "Hey buddy" to boot.

Your neighbor sounds like a typical blowhard to me.

km3h, No sir, I have not tried any of the above suggestions yet, it's all on hold until tomorrow. I will try the jumper to the solenoid first, and take it from there. The entire tractor has been restored, engine rebuilt, trans gone into and repaired, everything was removed and either replaced or refurbished. The wiring was a mess when I got it, I have another post here concerning the wiring harness. I removed all wiring and started all over again, doing it all myself (that could be the problem ) . Pictures are posted of the tractor in the restorations section, with questions about the fuel pump. I have checked and re-checked the wiring, using the wiring diagram for this machine and all seems to be well. I did paint all parts, starter and other electrical, but removed paint everywhere they make contact with other metal parts, and used tooth washers where I could, for better contact. I will start here tomorrow and keep you posted. Thanks for all the help and suggestions.

Looks like he was really getting on it during the pull offs, until something let go...maybe that silly V8?

Yep, their retirement fund is funded through "change orders". I once had a contractor tell me he under bid a job knowing that he could make it up with change orders. Don't get me wrong. Change orders are a necessity in the construction business. unfortunately some contractors take advantage of it. Hope you can get some more realistic quotes Steve.

If your going to get a carb, get it from the US instead of one direct from China. Even if it costs more. Otherwise you may be in for a long wait.

You can also weld the bracket back together and it will work fine. Done it many times.

Oh... I'm so ashamed ...sniff...sniff.

And more..

FOR ALL OF THE MEMBERS ON RED SQUARE...kudzu3 failed to take pictures of his horse when he took it apart...this goes against the Holy Grail of what the Planets align for and actually can warp the space/time fabric causing ruptures where other universes can enter and reek havoc!!! We need to band together and right this now!! You can buy a Multi-meter for around $16...I think. Radio Shack has some choices. You do not have to get a good one...if you take pictures. I hope you know that I am just giving you a ruff time. Seriously, the meter will walk you through the trouble shooting. I would say this at this point...Do not change anything until you put a meter to work. I say this because...you said it ran great when you tore it apart, but you did not put it back together the same way (by passed switches). You want to check things out now first...before you change things...shorting out points, a condenser, maybe a coil makes more then one thing wrong.

I just had to .....

I consider my 1989 520-H a Wheel Horse product. It was in 1990 that they began to be branded as Toro Wheel Horse, like my 1990 520-H. The tractors produced from 1974 - 1982 were built when Wheel Horse was a subsidiary of AMC, and 1982 - 1986 produced as a subsidiary of Munn Investment Group. They were never AMC's or Munn's. Wheel Horse was a subsidiary of Toro, as well at least in 1990. I have both a 1989 Brochure and a 1990 brochure. Both state a subsidiary using the South Bend address - and were printed in South Bend as well. My . 1989 Rear Panel: 1990 Rear Panel:

It turned out the belt guard was bent up we fixed it and now it works perfectly! Thanks for all the helpful answers.

hehe, made me laugh, i recently saw a transmission/rear axle off of one of those tupperware machines, left axle twisted and broke clean off. my horse survived being upside down in a ditch 2 times don't see that happening with one of the new "tractors" you'll lose all your tupper ware Koen

Why not just 'Pin it' so it stays at the top where it deserves to be placed? . Hi Lars

You know, there's nothing like these old dinosaurs, they mow, haul, lift, push and plow anything we ask of them. Can the big box wannabe's say the same? That is the difference in my opinion. Long live these dinosaurs!

Wait until something is wrong with it and what it costs to fix it...if they can fix it. Wheel Horse was just made for all of us "Shade Tree Mechanics".

Getting rid of derelict, wanna-be red tractors.

Do the mod with the Harley coil. Martin posted it here - I followed Martin's post and even bought the same coil from the same eBay seller.http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&vxp=mtr&item=301252503367 He had the best price. I found that I could use the original wires by positioning the coil so both wires reached it. I did have to remove the front wire from it's clip to give it more slack to reach the new coil. BTW here is a perfect opportunity to say THANK YOU MARTIN for sharing your solution. You saved me a lot of money!

Atleast you dont have to pull the flywheel off and change the module. What a pain in the dupa. I would change a coil any day over the module ,but on the plus side .You get to clean off them cooling fins when you do a module. Look into a 12 volt harley coil in the 3 to 5 ohm rating. Many have done this with success. Both harleys and Onan fire both plugs at the same time. Much cheaper than the Onan. I believe Martin may have a part number for you if my memory serves me correctly. Good luck

Production will begin in about one week. Material has been ordered. However, at this time I am only making 30 linings. Anyone who has posted or PM'd that they want one or more will receive a PayPal invoice from me as soon as they are ready to ship. Orders will be filled based upon the date and time post or PM was received. Any additional requests received after I run out of stock will be filled when the next batch is made. Thanks for your interest.

May have been a 800 special they used that trans and style hood Correction the A90 used that hood, and trans, the 800 special used that trans but the newer hood, both had starter/gen 8 hp briggs

I bought 100 ball bearings from McMaster I don't even bother to look for the stupid little detent balls when they shoot out and roll away!!!

Bad news. The upper balance gear shaft broke the cast iron holding it in. The balance gear shaft was no longer perpendicular to the cast iron body. Unless you can rebuild and run the engine without the balance gears I am afraid its toast. Otherwise. I have lots of good parts left. Fordiesel69, I really appreciate your help thus far.

well here she is done Brian