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Some pictures from the parade on Friday. Lane...good to see you there Lane. Karl live streaming the parade...excellent Neil on my B-100... John...this set up was fantastic to look at. Brian and Jo... this was Eye Candy... RWilson (Rich) and his daughter...she had that look for quite a while that day. Jay-in-NC, Jrblanke and Wheel-N-It (Van) talking with Neil. This is the only time that I have ever seen Duke not wearing a Michigan shirt. That's Charlie in the middle and Jake on the right end. Talking with 55rj35jr Doc in Kentucky and Duke Racinfool40 (Mike) and me Jake on my B-100 Red Bone and his daughter Don and Jay And then...this guy shows up and stops by...Chasm along with Mike. Great to meet you Chasm.. Jake and Charlie Carolyn, Neil, MJ, Duke, Doug and Jake Kuhn with me in it. Sparky stopped by... and then MikesRJ shows up with his wife Alicia (hope that is spelled right) Alicia behind Carolyn The homeless at the show waiting for the bus. The official passing of the Hard Hat...RMaynard wins it for this year. AMC Rules (Craig) had it last year. One of the Group shots I got on Saturday... Thanks to the WHCC...it was a fantastic show this year...it was great seeing old friends and meeting new ones...and Thanks for taking a look.

I and the wife took 83 pictures this year. I put the best ones on here. These first ones, I was walking around for a couple of hours before I realized I was at the wrong show. Actually, they were having an old car show behind the restaurant we ate at in Scotland, Pa the night before the show. Knowing we have many members here that are into these beauties, I could not pass it up. Now the WHCC show pictures. Suburban 550 (Ray), Horsefixer (Duke) and Neil (Neil) Squonk (Mike), Nylyon (Karl) and my wife Chris Squonk walking back and forth... Got to meet this guy at the show. 857 horse (Howard) from Virginia. He had a suburban that he had mounted an 8 speed tranny on. Very cool. It was great talking with you Howard. varosd (Don) and Fun Engineer (Dave) SteveBo and Dave VINYLGUY (Terry), Neil and Carolyn at the Italian Village restaurant on Thursday. That is Stromboli and Terry's and Neil's plate and a 12" Pizza for me. Huge and Delicious. Some shots of the show on Friday... Brrly1 (John) Jake and Doug Kuhn. Jake filled up their pick-up truck with all kinds of stuff. Buckrancher (Brian) with a very special T-Shirt...he said he could have sold a few of them. Don't forget to check out steve's pics WHCC 2014 - 2

Picked the sign hanging to the left up at the WH Show over the weekend got it hung tonight in the man cave STABLE

I am going to organize a safety course for our younger tractor drivers, maybe have them bring their Wheel Horse that they are going drive letting them show me what they know about the tractors operation. I could check over their Wheel Horse to also make sure it is in safe operating condition. Possibly an easy test and a wrist band to show they have past. I liked the engine cackle with the decibel meter but I am still looking for a way to show the world with the web TV just how many people and Wheel Horses attend the Annual Wheel Horse Show and I have figured out a way BUT BUT BUT It will take major involvement. I was thinking of a DRIVE BY in front of the camera, not like the parade but ....... lets say we mount a camera in a stationary spot and we all just drive by the camera one Wheel Horse right after another. The time and number of Wheel Horses would really show the world that this show is big ! At the show this year Neil and I were talking about world records and maybe we should contact the Guiness Book of World records as the Annual Wheel Horse Show is the largest gathering of Wheel Horse tractors and the largest garden tractor show. Wild Bill

As many of you know, I did a back-flip with the Commando 8 while loading it on the trailer to go to the big show. It was a very scary feeling sitting in the drivers seat, seeing the front end of the tractor coming up and over me. I remember saying to myself "this is not going to end well". I think I also said "oh poop" or something similar. Anyway, the Commando ended up on it's right side with my right leg pinned under the hood, just in front of the muffler. There were lots of dents, scrapes, and damage to the Commando, but nothing that can't be fixed before the next big show. As far as me, I suffered a 1 inch laceration just above the ankle, and various scrapes to my leg. Nothing broken, just badly bruised. Somehow, I managed to avoid hitting my head. One week later, I am on the mend nicely, and the tractor runs fine. So, the reason for this post is warn others of the dangers lurking while going up or down a ramp of any height. At the show, many asked me how I managed to flip the tractor on such a low ramp. Well here is how it happened. I was climbing the ramp in a forward direction in 1st gear. When the right rear tire hit the hinge, it began to spin. So I let the tractor drift back slightly, and tried again. Still spun. So, with the tractor in gear, I increased the throttle, depressed the clutch, let it drift to the bottom of the ramp, and when the rear tires hit pavement, my foot slipped off the clutch causing the front end, which was already at an incline, to raise up (wheelie) and flip over me. The moral to this story is DON'T drift backwards down a ramp with the transmission in a forward gear. From now on, I either back the tractor up the ramp or walk beside it.

Some of you will remember that the Tecumseh V70 engine expired on my sons ranger after 40 years. The con rod has snapped and knowing they aren't that reliable (though 40 years isn't bad) I've chosen what I trust to be a better replacement. Here's the Ranger in happier times... and now on my new Ranger maintenance station - my knees are getting too old to crawl on the floor. Parts can be stored underneath out of the way and it's on wheels here's the new Engine ready to drop in, needs the pulley swapping over and a small mod to the chassis to make it fit. I will need to change the ignition switch and fit a solenoid. At least this one has a reasonable charge stator - so we can run some lights!

Just picked up this wheelhorse clock, anyone know how old these clocks are?

Mike, no I did not get any of our pie. The Church ladies did not make any this year. Man I was really disapointed. Can we put in a request for some next year? Craig, darn right I'm one of your WH Peeps, and you are one of mine! Me and the Hooch, and my Road Dog Jay will see you next year

Bought a couple of horses several days ago and picked them up today and brought them home. Neither one runs right now and I'm not sure what is wrong with each one, but I got them reasonable and if I have to part one or the other out, I will get my money back and then some! Here are the requested pictures! 1981 C-125 (with a 14 HP Kohler Magnum transplant) 1976 C-160

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You know when I was a GM mechanic for over 20 years I used to do it ( rarely ) and see others do it. Get it in your head to over complicate the problem you're trying to solve. Every service manual has trouble trees that you follow to diagnose the problem and people in a hurry like to skip steps for some reason. Human nature I guess. Of course I have seen those same manuals lead you through hours of electrical tests before they say check a certain fuse and bingo it's blown. You would think that would be one of the first steps in a logical diagnosis. So see sometimes even the book is confused. I was a shop foreman for a while and that was the first thing I told mechanics "Don't skip any steps in the trouble tree". Just a little rambling here.

I really like the safety operation course & the wrist band idea for the kids after all they are the future of this great hobby,,,also Bill I liked the idea that you mentioned to me about the drive in movie for Thursday night maybe also play some old WH commercials at intermition with popcorn etc..? for the kids and familys.

Its true! I had guys asking me where Craig was. Heck I even heard guys asking others where Craig was!

Mike...that is one of my favorite pics this year. Thought you might appreciate this one. Thanks for the Dino.

Cool... maybe it will bring this one back out of hiding! Gator's not that far away from PA.

My Raider 10 has been the an excellent mule tractor. It easily handles anything from a 900 pound roller to plowing snow. Interesting to know about the ignition module though. I have about a bit over $300 total invested in the tractor (including purchase two years ago) if that helps on the value.

One of my most fun moments was watching Stevebo from a distance buying out half the table at one of the vendors that just arrived Sat. morning... He was so absorbed in the deal that I snuck up right behind him and plucked a beauty of a K90 out of his trailer that he JUST purchased and hid it across the aisle, my brother and myself were giggling the whole time... When he finally finished his deal and turned around and saw his beauty of a K90 missing, well, the look of astonishment on his face was priceless! If I only had a video camera!

Tom, just thinking here and I might be way off...but if it runs best at high speed and leaks fuel after shut off, could your carb float be off adjustment and there for is dumping too much fuel or too high of a fuel level in the carburetor?

I got there late, wished I would have gotten there earlier, not sure what "magic dust" Duke was throwing there, but it looked like a flaming John Deere!

I "have this friend" that has a quad remote helicopter that has an HD camera mounted on it that does live feed or recording. If that seems like a good idea, I can probably arrange that. I'm not sure if we have ever had an aerial view

Looked and sounds like you all had an awesome time, I'm gonna work on the missus and see if shes up for a trip to NYC via PA next year

An pic from a low plane would show how big the show is.

This year was an amazing time at the WHCC show. Being able to spend Thursday, Friday and Saturday at the show is really a must for everyone's bucket list, and trust me if you don't have this on your list, you better put it there! One of the best parts was hearing feedback about the forum. I didn't hear anything negative, but I learned quite a bit by listening. As soon as I get MY computer back running again, I will be getting something together for business cards. I can't tell you how many times this weekend I heard someone promoting and we have NO cards to give out. During the raffle, I was sitting almost directly across from Redbird who was explaining to a friend of hers what RedSquare was and all about, and even Tony kicked in explaining how we got our name, better than I can do too! So RedBird, unfortunately no one had a card to give (but that is going to change), you really don't have to post a picture as your first post, but I am glad you did, and thank you for the awesome things you said about this place, it made my day! One of the most memorable conversations that I had was when a gentleman pulled me aside and told me about his hospital stay where he had an extended recuperation time. He spent a lot of time on here, reading through posts and isn't even a member, but he wanted to thank me for keeping the site available as it really helped him pass the time. I learned that there's a large percentage of enthusiasts who don't know about RedSquare, and I need help to figure out how to reach them to at least let them know that we are here, if they want to post a picture, read to pass the time or figure out how to change that mower deck. Of course, the regular crew. You guys are amazing, and even thought we have our "family squabbles" you're here, supportive, enthusiastic, and just the best group of people around (but Craig, next time call me a little EARLIER for the campfire). So what I've learned is this, it a really cool thing that we have going on here, and I am really, REALLY proud to be a part of it. I am humbled by the conversations about RedSquare, especially from those who may not have known I was listening. We're listening, thankful and eager to engage more people to bring into the folds. Finally, what i learned is something that I knew for a long time. I brought my oldest and youngest kids with me. Megan fell ill the first night, and I was really upset about leaving her in the camper by herself, so her brother stayed with her (maybe just to play mine craft I don't know) and I know she didn't have a stellar time, but I asked her and she did.... she had a good time because I had a good time (and that she got to speak with someone from the U.K. thank you Carolyn). So, thank you all for a fantastic show. It's always a pleasure to see everyone, and I am honored to be the guy who sits in the back of John's wagon riding around the grounds with a laptop in hand recording the event! Hope to see you all next year!

LOL! I swear... to God Mike, you are a nut.

The plug should be air tight, as for the leak and only running good at high rpm's its the float not adjusted right causing it not to seat and constantly let fuel in and the low idle screw needs to be adjusted its the screw that's under the air filter. Hope this helps

Gosh what great pictures, and a Great time we had! It was GREAT seeing our old friends again, and meeting new ones. A BIG THANKS to all the staff that puts this show on it was our 4th show and this one was the best! ~Duke

I usually gravitate to the 's wearing reds that appear more orange than blue.

Always the best picts Steve.

Van when I was leaving I started walking around saying good by and you vanished! I took a quick lap around(on one leg) and couldn't find you. I just might have to bring a pie next year so we got one!

And no pics of me saluting you.... lol

Awesome pics Steve and thanks for sharing!

I tig welded it back together im sure mig would have worked but its thin and small welds were definitely better on this one. jdleach I wanted to maintain the same mount orientation not so much appearance as this is not my super nice wheel horse(at least for now), but once the new welds rust up a bit you wouldn't even notice a difference haha, I am having a stainless cover for it made up though so it will be covered and look sweet. I also wanted to maintain the correct flow and pressure but doubt that would be that big of a deal anyway. but even some of the aftermarket options were around 100 bucks so I thought if I was going to spend that I would just spend the extra to have the correct muffler. very glad I never ended up having to make that decision, im gonna put that 175 bucks towards rebuilding the smoking magnum that's on it. pacer I am a former fabricator that is now designing so I love to look into everything and figure out how it works and better yet make it better this muffler was indeed a nelson and yes very quiet seems like it quieter then before but I doubt that. that's another thing I was concerned about going aftermarket is Id finally get it on there and itd be so much louder that id hate it. I figure now that I had it apart and fixed it correctly I should be good for another 20 years or so

I am a believer in this - figure if a part is no longer functional I dont have anything to lose by looking into it and all to often will turn out like your situation. I recently had one of the Nelson mufflers (which I REALLY like! theyre so quiet) off a C series that had the outer shell so rusted that it had separated. So one day with some spare time I set about to make a new shell and after some piddling with some sheet metal scraps I had me a nicely rebuilt Nelson

I had my Ark loader cylinders rebuilt by Hights Farm Equipment, they're located on rt 33 in Hightstown. Not that close to you but it's an option.

The cool part of all of this is my boys were working with me and got to see the mechanics of this and though we've got parts that won't fit, it ain't time to set the tractor at the curb like so many folks do. Dig a little deeper and figure out (with a little Redsquare help) what's wrong and move on to the next project. All good! Thanks! Bill

Sometimes info like this is hard to find. Once you do find it what do you do with it so it is easier next time? In this case I added the word donut to the file descriptions in the Manuals. I searched the manuals and 5 files came up. Otherwise I would still be looking for it because I remember seeing it before somewhere. I often don't use enough good key words - depends how the brain cells are lined up at the time. Garry

Here's a little video from Saturdays very first ever WHCC crackle fest... those little red 's sure can make some noise...hit 126 on Wild Bills decimal meter. Sounded pretty good for the first time ever... so, crank up your volume, and don't forget to cover your ears.

You're kind of close Karl !

I'm embarrassed to say that I was fast asleep in the hotel room around 9:30..........what an old fart I am !! One of these years I'll make the campfire. Mike..........

Wished I could of made it to the campfire , maybe next year.

The Hard Hat award was my creation. Me being the butt-buster that I am saw an opportunity to get 2 guys with one shot. About a year and a half ago, AMC Rules ( Craig ) got into an accident and spent many days recuperating on his couch. I was harassing him pretty good. There was a lot of construction going on at work and someone left behind a nice shiny red hard hat. A year before that stevasaurus fell out of a tree and was laid up a while. The guys later presented him with a plastic chain saw. I decided to take that hat, slap some Wheel Horse stickers and create the 1st Annual Red Square stevasaurus Award. Steve and I presented the hat to Craig last year after the group shot. This year Craig presented it to Bob after his accident loading a tractor for the show. Bob will pick next years recipient.

That would be awesome to have a RC helicam

This is a great thread. Some good ideas to ponder over the coming winter. I like the WHCC Wild Bill Show idea. I could make a couple banners that could be mounted on some wooden stands that could be positioned so collectors could be interviewed one at a time in front of the portable backdrop during live broadcasts. Also a great way to promote the WHCC as well as RedSquare. I am thinking of investing in a camcorder with wifi and a wireless mic. Maybe we can find a software that allows us to by-pass youtube and also archive the live broadcast for playback at any time.

Well Mike your close, Its Hooga Booga Hoo, Hooga Booga Hoo Then Rattle The Gords! This was from a post I made in 2009. Boy what memories! ~Duke

Hey Bill, thinking about ideas for next year, I recall that during at the Pennsylvania Farm Show in Harrisburg, PA every January, they have full size farm tractors doing square dances. Just thinking this would be cool to see Wheel Horse garden tractors doing a square dance routine. Not sure if this would be practical, feasible or doable with a group of eight riders trying it without much if any practice. Basically, you would need eight tractors and riders who not only have some knowledge of how to "square dance" but would also be able to ride out the dance on a tractor, square dance music over the speaker system, and a someone who knows how to call a square dance. Just a thought for something else fun to do... and see at the big show.

I too had a great time. As usual got to see the usual crew from Red Square there. Unfortunately I missed the camp fire over in the woods. I really try to keep my tractors clean and spent a lot of time wiping the dust off from cruising around. I have a plan started in my head to make a trailer with a drip rail to tow around as I'm cruising and shopping. I have a nice brand new 60 gallon poly tank and an old tow behind cart that I don't use. Gravity fed it will lay down a nice light mist to stop the dirt dust from flying but not make any mud (that is as long as the WHCC allows me to do it).

Once again it was great to see all the faces behind the typing here on RedSquare. Too numerous to mention everyone. Thanks for all the well wishes on my backflip induced leg injury. Everything is healing nicely. What did I get? I got the 2nd Annual RedSquare "Stevasuarus" Award as a result of the aforementioned injury. On the other hand, I picked up a lot of miscellaneous parts, and I sold my two Lawn Rangers, and my B-100 Automatic. Here is the happy new Lawn Ranger owner.

I have a Johnson Work Horse Model 10 on my D-160. I do not have a lot of details on it but I can show you some pictures. There are a number of different models of Johnson loaders. The Model 10 is most easily recognized because it uses a single hydraulic cylinder to operate the bucket tilt rather than one on each side. The first picture below is one I found online. I do not know who it belongs to but it shows the layout of the FEL. This model has the controls on the right, no cross bar across the top of the tractor and the single hydraulic cylinder in the center with a mechanism that extends the amount of throw that one cylinder provides. If this does not match your FEL then you have a different model. The second picture is of my D-160 with the FEL on. I am still working on the partial restore but she is getting close to complete. Not a great shot of the FEL but you can see the controls and how it mounts under the tractor. Essentially it has a bar that goes under the tractor and bolts into place at the same place the foot support bracket is bolted on. Two arms angle inward towards the front of the tractor to bolt to the sides below the hood. My hydraulic pump is currently mounted where the grill should be. I am going to move it to below the tractor with a longer belt to the PTO so the grill can go back on. This is how it was mounted when I got it. As was stated previously in the thread these Johnson Workhorse FELs were not designed specifically for Wheel Horse but were designed to be easily adaptible to different tractors. They did come with options for the mounting frames for some Cub models and I have a manual for the FEL related to a Cub tractor specifically.

@Gary - there were at least four different "reds" used between 1946 and now - and that doesn't include formula variance, mixing error, application technique, and difference between brands/suppliers. Modern aersol paints may be close, but none are an exact match to the actual paint used by Wheel Horse and/or Toro. (and that includes their own touch-up paint) Choosing the "proper" red for a Wheel Horse is much like throwing a hand grenade...... all you need to do is get it close.