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Had to Shovel and I mean S H O V E L all day at work. We got 3 inches in 45 min at one point. Boss was begging us to stay late. Then the snow stopped and we got to go home on time. OH GOODY!! I get to go home and play on the Horses! Should have known better. First I got some brand new Carhartt Extreme bibs. Nice and toasty but slippery and stiff. Got out to the shop and fired up the 160. Warmed up the hydro and was cleaning around the dumpster and I tripped and fell over the blade and almost bashed in the hood. Then getting on my slippery coveralls plus a slippery seat I slid and nudged the motion lever. Plow hits my overhead door sensor. I fix that. Then I plow some ,take a video and decide I need to get out Marvin and the blower. Get it out and want to shoot a video and the phone dies. Charge the phone and blow the driveway. Shoot a short video blowing the frt. walk. Battery dies quickly. It would have been an epic vid as I got a good plume going. Got to the end and went to back up and the tractor stops and spins The bolt for the chain attaching the mower lift bar came out and now the bar is wedged into the walk and lifting the tractor off the ground. good thing phone is dead or I would have had to take an embarrasing picHad to go get a small jack to get the bar out.Replaced the bolt. Gloves are soaked. Finish up plowing. Went to lower plow and plow won't go down. Trip spring is hanging. A hitch pin came out. Replace spring and pin and I notice the opposite spring rod is falling out and missing a clip .! Never had this happen ever. Got it all done. Got Elvis out to pile it up. Almost didn't want to in fear of what could happen to that tractor. Couple of vids and pics. The daylight ones are what was waiting for me when I got home. The dark one you can almost see one of the piles Elvis made.

Well the trailblazer 5 couldn't keep up and tapped out shortly after Christmas. So this week we finally drug the blower out of the woods and mated it to the C-175. Had to get a new belt and took 2 days to get turned around and headed the right direction. As every time we moved out by the shed we sunk in deeper or something would break. Tonight the snow gods smiled and across the yard we went fighting all the way. As you can see we chewed a path deeper then the blower by the end I dug through a 5' snow pile to get to the road. Unfortunately the battery died on the phone before I got that far. I will get some photos in the daylight of the path of destruction.

got some more time on #3 tonight. I'm waiting on a bunch of fasteners from the platers so most of the assembly has to wait until next week. some pieces can be put on with temp bolts etc. i had to pull the steering to get some small pieces plated so that had to come off again. got the rear hubs painted and put them and the wheels on. the tank sheetmetal/fender support looked a little tweaked so i mounted that up and had to bend and shape a little to get it to sit right on the transmission. the main piece always seems to be bent out of shape on the bottom where it bolts to the trans and the flat part of the trans isn't really dead flat. so you end up with a situation where the bolts are holding it down in the center, but the ends have a gap under them allowing sideways movement of the seat pan/fender when driver weight moves from side to side. the piece really needs a slight concave and when the bolts are tightened down it pulls it tight to the top of the transmission. eventually i got it sitting right and didn't even mess up the paint with c clamp 'persuasion'......... gotta love powder coat. finally its on four legs...... the dogs seem to like how its turning out.......

Hello! I joined this forum pretty recently and I'm probably not the typical forum visitor. I build scale models - usually 1/25 cars - and I've been working on an Electro 12 model. BTW, many of the model cars that I build are my favorite car and another South Bend native - Studebakers. I found this site while searching online for reference photos and manuals. It's a great place with a lot of excellent resources. Reminds me a lot of the Studebaker Drivers Club forum where the members have always been very supportive of my model building. Makes me want to have a real Wheel Horse (and a Studebaker). Anyway, this is where it all started: Probably not many people are more interested in the Wheel Horse than they are in the Indy Car but I'm building the tractor and may never build the car. The tractor in the kit appears to be Charger but after looking over this forum for a while I decided to convert it to the Charger's cousin - a 1969 Electro 12. I had already built the engine as it came in the box but I realized it wasn't correct for this tractor. This is what the first build-up looked like: So I stripped the paint off and did a conversion: The next order of business was building a mower deck since the kit didn't have one and what good is a Wheel Horse without it! I downloaded the manual for a 5-1422 (Thank you, Forum!) and started scratchbuilding. This has been a lot of fun! Here are a few shots from the build-up and the finished mower: The paint is Duplicolor Bright Red which is a GM color. I bought some IH Red at Tractor Supply but didn't really like the drying properties of the paint. The GM Red matches it very well and in fact I brushed on a little of the IH color as touch-up paint in a few spots and can't see the difference. Duplicolor is my preferred paint. It dries fast and hard. There's certainly more to come. I hope you enjoy. Most of the other major components are under construction right now and will be ready to post soon.

As we have had a few new members recently and as I have just been ordering parts I thought the following comparison might be useful to anyone new into restoring here. ($ converted to £) NOTES Ordering from the US there is no VAT to pay when goods in a package enter this country if the value of the goods within the package is under £15. The order listed above would need to be ordered and sent as the separate items shown to avoid VAT There is possibly a saving to be made on shipping if they were sent as one consignment but then there would be VAT to pay on import and carriers like the Post Office also levy a charge on top for collecting it. Delivery time from the US varies between 7 - 14 days and is generally about 10 days in my experience. Ordering from my local Toro dealer by phone and credit card took perhaps 10 minutes including the time taken for the guy to check prices for me and that they were in stock here in the UK with Hayter (which they were). Hayter hold and distribute Toro Wheel Horse spares in the UK but you cannot deal with them directly. The parcel arrived next morning by Fedex directly from Hayter but does need signing for. If a particular part is not in stock here in the UK it can take some time to arrive but my experience is that it is sent on as soon as it does arrive with no additional postage charge. I deliberately compared the overall costs of genuine OEM parts using an Outdoor Power dealer in the US but for individual OEM items there are times when private vendors in the US on ebay have specific parts to offer at some very good prices. It is important to do your research before you decide where to buy. Having the correct part numbers ready when contacting a Toro agent saves quite a bit of time. Unfortunately some of the part numbers given on the Toro lookup site have been superseded but they don't always update this. I use the 'Partstree' site in the US for this as their part numbers seem to be kept up to date. Unfortunately Partstree will not ship to the UK though. A lot has changed in the last three years since I started needing WH parts. Toro bought Hayter and used them to distribute parts here at more reasonable prices than they had been charging previously. There seems to be a better stock now in the UK and delivery is vary fast. I still buy stuff including new OEM parts from the US but less than I did. Finally worth mentioning that some OEM parts for older WHs are NLA on either side of the pond. Sometimes NOS stuff appears for sale in the US. Red Square is a good place for information about equivalent replacements when it comes to bearings etc though there are cases where no equivalent exists. Hope this is of some interest and help - I'm sure other UK members will chip in with other useful information Andy

Used the Lawn Ranger and snowthrower for about the tenth time this Winter tonight! We had snow coming down about an inch an hour from 4 PM to 8:30 PM. I used the Lawn Ranger which worked better than I ever remember for an hour until I sheared off the pushpin/cotter key holding up the lift rod in the back of the snowthrower. I will probably find the washer that held it in place sometime this Spring or Summer! I used the 1963 Wheel Horse 633 and the BD-4262 snowplow for the last half hour! It worked great but after an hour and a half of fighting Old Man Winter I was ready to get warm again inside! This is the Lawn Ranger after the workout tonight! Photo of the lift rod hanging off to the right of the snowthrower. I will get a new washer and push pin on it in the am!

One morning a few years ago I was getting ready for work & was doing some personal hygiene ( cleaning ) of my ears. Well I was using a cheap-azz Dollar store Q-tip, when I may have gotten a little bit over zealous & broke the tip off in my ear Being a mechanic I figured with a pair of needle nose pliers would take care of this problem... wrong . Tried a pair of hemostats... double wrong Soooo, I ended up going to a Walk-In Clinic for some Professional help .... Well I was not only the laughing stock of the Nurses, but it was all the Doctor could do to keep a straight face as he remove the Q-tip . Then he proceeded to explain the danger of sticking a Q-tip that deep into the ear Lesson learned I guess the moral of the story... Be careful in the bathroom & Don't USE cheap -azz Q-tips

I have removed broken Q tips, beads, a back of an earring, bugs etc out of ears

Humm, just a thought... better be careful using any cheap azz toilet paper too.

If you use a tractor as a worker, then I agree that you couldn't have possibly overpaid compared to what's out there new. If you collect a tractor, then resale value means nothing, and you didn't overpay. If you do both with your tractor, then you're a double winner indeed!! If you bought high to sell low....then you're a loser!

Man, that story needs a good sound track to go with it.

know I know....It's just a tractor.... I found this tractor literally in my neighborhood and the gentleman that had it was going to scrap it out :fear: He knows I collect and restor old tractors and engines and asked if I wanted it ( he asked me originally 7 or 8 months ago and I thought he had a Murray Mower; was I wrong). I knew it was a Wheel Horse Tractor but the year and date was what I was interested in. After going on to Redsquare and asking around and showing photos, found out it was a 1963 753 model. 7 hp Kohler and all. Here is how it was rolled down to my garage.... The good part: it was 100% COMPLETE :w00t: The bad part:: - Deck was completely rusted out and only the blade mech was holding it together. - "Creative engineering" on the fuel and steering system.....nuff said.... - Broken steering wheel -wrong seat (no big deal) -rear tires coming apart -beat up hood and rotten body work Started with the main part of the tractor, the fuel and steering system. These tractors came with a 2 piece cast aluminum gas tank with the steering shaft going through the top half. somoen in the past had attempted to seal the tank with copper RTV ( really??) and use drill screws to hold it together where they had broken the original screws out :shake: Plus they broke the mounting points to the hood off of the tank.... Trying to decide on wether to salvage the tank or try to find a new one.... Next item is the steering wheel, or lack of. The steering shaft rode on a plastic bushing in the tank and I had a bronze buishing layhing in my parts bin. Perfect fit.. The steering wheel was found at Northern Tool for less than $30. NOS Wheel Horse steering wheels are out of the question budget-wise. plus I built an adapter for it to mount up to the original hole... [

Well today I started out with the plow, but it got ugly real quick, so out comes the blower to keep the CUT in the barn! Actually I just wanted to play with the blower. http:// http:// http://

It's hard to show any depth in these pic's due to the light, but it's a bit deep. My mutts are between 12 and 15" tall. The snow is about 4 1/2' in the background.

Hes been selling them off one by one, i dont know if he has any up right now. I didn't have the cash either

It really sounds like this isnt something you should tackle without some better guidance than through written responses here. Along with installing rings - which in itself has to be done in a certain manner - the crankshaft, rod, valves , lifters and other areas should be inspected for wear and taken care of at the same time. Is there not someone you could get to give you hands on guidance? I have done several engines but I still like to have my buddy come over and the 2 of us check every thing over.

He would have been 69 today. . .

THE ONLY THING YOU CAN POKE IN YOUR EAR IS YOUR ELBOW....

Trust me Dino... it's already in the mail.

Sounds like you are trying to win back Craig's Hard Hat. What a tough winter...

Welcome to the forum,, looks like your eventually will have what you need . Nice looking from what I can tell. Good for you and good luck with your mower(s)

Wouldn't replacement or aftermarket be the same for both sides?

Good story Mike! Happy to hear you did not break anything when you fell. Marvin looks good with the snowblower attached.

You may fight with the pulley to get it off and damage it in the process. Remove the bolts that secure the right shaft bearing to the housing. Then loosen the bolts on the left bearing. That may give you enough room to slip the belt on. If the pulley will come off clean up the shaft and apply Never-seize so it comes off the next time also. Garry

With out honing the cyl. the rings will not seat/wear in the the cyl. and most likely it will smoke, some times more than before.

The 1st thread in the trans section / Bearing & seals-cross- numbers or click below

In those pics Im out on the lawn clearing from the house to the shop and I have the shoes all the way down, so no gravel throwin. I did have it out on the drive and I did pick up some out there, it will throw the gravel pretty far.

Nope. Did I say it was a bad day? No heat in shed ! Hoping it is just a spark plug on the 520H. Have not looked into it yet. Might wait till it's warmer out. Not much of a poster but plan on changing that. Plenty of nice people here!

got home today and these were in the driveway......... hmmmm......

Damn! That tractor was born before me and works harder than I ever care to... RJMcEachern

Umm..no....it does matter, your machine should have 10w-30 or maybe 10w-40 motor oil. Not universal hydraulic fluid or transmission fluid. Here's where you might have a problem. If the owner before you dumped in some home-grown concoction or mix you'll need to make sure its ALL OUT before you add the correct oil. Remember to get a new filter as well. It sounds like you have a TORO dealer nearby so get it from them. Mike...........

gehosky...open the pinned thread at the top of this Transmission Section...PDF #3 has a listing of all the seals and bearings for your transmission...if it is an 8 speed and not an automatic. You can dig out the seals with an awl, or by using a small sheet metal screw and then prying...they are only about 1/8" thick. Use a piece of plastic tubing that just fits over the axle to tap them back in.

Maybe they're neither tractor or lawn mower.........They're just Wheel Horses!! As in "what do you mow with?" "MY wheelhorse" or "what do you move snow with?" "one of my wheelhorses"

It is pretty amazing when I see these old tractors still performing.

Always good to have a backup tractor waiting in the shed.

That's what I get for using the voice recognition on my phone when replying to these posts!!!!!!!! Maybe what I meant to say was - to be sympathetic to my tranny, I use synthetic oil...

My greatest fear is .....when I'm gone, Hun Bun sells my WHs for what I told her I paid for them.

All dressed up in her winter clothes.

Steve, I'm just guessing here, but because this tractor has a vertical shaft VH-80 tecumseh engine, the trans probably isn't your typical uni-drive...or is it???

Here's a couple pic's to try to show the depth a little better.

I have parts blowers that have good augers I'm sure someone closer to you must also. I wouldn't even try to fix it blowers are cheap Theres a few on C list for $75 now

Well with the lovely weather we are having here in Northern Indiana, school was closed. I heard that work was being done on the club barn and asked if I could come down to lend a hand. After taking care of some responsibilities around home I headed south to lend a hand. Here is where the building was as of yesterday afternoon. This building is 12x20 which will be perfect for the club. The steel roof is actually a chocolate brown and the trim is a tan. Here is a photo of the barn before the siding started to go on. Kind of cool to be building a barn inside of another barn! The guys started insulating yesterday and finished it up this morning. Once I arrived I helped put the last piece of plywood on the walls. You can see from this picture that the walls are done as well as the electric. The outlet receptacles need to be placed, breaker box hooked up and mounted as well as the ballast for the lights. The grand kids of the builder are going to paint the walls white and the floor will be painted grey. If you look at the ceiling you will notice that an I-beam has been placed which will support a hoist to help with those heavy jobs. After working for quite some time I was able to help put the metal siding and securing it to both sides. Here is what it looks like when I left. It is really taking shape and is simply amazing! Both ends need to be sided and the garage door needs to be placed along with the other things that I already mentioned. I need to get the heater down to them so that it can be mounted and ready. I am very grateful for this gift and pleased that I had the opportunity to lend a hand!

i went searching and think i found the listing for this tractor. I'm sorry but i don't think the description on the listing was deceiving at all. it wasn't very thorough..... Wheel Horse C 165 lawnmower comes with snow blade and front and back wheel weights. Mower does run . It has a Kohler engine . I will help load on your truck or trailer or could deliver for a fee . it can be picked up in PLYMOUTH INDIANA 46563 CASH ON PICK UP ! and they did give you additional info about the engine..... i would not have just bought it for that price without looking at it first or at least getting some opinions on here first. that price is way more than i would have paid, but its not really out of line for what i see tractors go for on that site. as far as condition goes, its not in the best condition, but I've bought worse ( but also for less money). most of the rust is surface from what i see, the left cover is pretty bad and probably needs to be replaced, but the condition overall is fairly typical of tractors that age. same with parts missing. these machines have been around a few years now and its getting harder to find good examples on the lower end....... this forum and its members are here for help and advice, just need to ask..... i think the whole deal should have been handled differently from your end, you did go in blindly on a tractor that the owner was not really telling you anything untrue...... heres how you need to handle it from here on out......... forget about what you paid for it, its over and done with. fix the tractors problems and enjoy it. you have a capable tractor there once running right..... or, restore it to its former glory and show it off as one of your collection. but, don't forget to ask questions and opinions, thats what we are here for......

I'll be using this if needed... If it's not needed I'll be using this... RJMcEachern

Here's a short vid of snowplowing

What will you be using this winter to clear the snow?

Here's mine, been reliably getting the job done for a few thousand years.

Horses will retire to the barn this year...will be using triplet grandsons (age 6) and THREE snow shovels!!!...wonder what that will cost me?...

More progress.......more issues...... Had a chance to tear it down a little more and take the degreaser/ cleaner. I knew the steering support was broken, but didn't realize the steering shaft also might have been damaged. What blows me away is they attempted to weld it together, but it wasn't welded together... Steering shaft had been welded in the past on both ends. This one was pretty bad... A few minutes with the welder on both parts and they are ready to go and fixed properly.... :up: Gonna shoot the primer and paint to it this afternoon and see how it turns out... One question I do have concerns the battery box...it appears someone cut on it in order to fix the steering...should this be a solid piece across here????

Next up was the big teardown of the tractor to the frame...... How it looked at lunch time... As of 3:30 Sunday afternoon...... Time for the pressure washer and sand blaster....