Leaderboard

My greatest fear is .....when I'm gone, Hun Bun sells my WHs for what I told her I paid for them.

Used the Lawn Ranger and snowthrower for about the tenth time this Winter tonight! We had snow coming down about an inch an hour from 4 PM to 8:30 PM. I used the Lawn Ranger which worked better than I ever remember for an hour until I sheared off the pushpin/cotter key holding up the lift rod in the back of the snowthrower. I will probably find the washer that held it in place sometime this Spring or Summer! I used the 1963 Wheel Horse 633 and the BD-4262 snowplow for the last half hour! It worked great but after an hour and a half of fighting Old Man Winter I was ready to get warm again inside! This is the Lawn Ranger after the workout tonight! Photo of the lift rod hanging off to the right of the snowthrower. I will get a new washer and push pin on it in the am!

I don't EVER over pay for any tractors....EVER! My wife believes that my barn is chock full great deals!!!!

We got another 4" of snow last night. Went out this morning and blew the snow off my 1000' private lane I share with other neighbors. Got the lane cleared and started to clear individual drives when my 520h lost power to the rear cylinder. It still ran so I drove it to the shed, took the blower and chains off, and put them on another 520H I have. I pulled out of the shed and noticed the tire chain rubbing on the fender bracket so I backed up into the shed to try to slide wheel hub out a little. As I was backing up, the snowblower dropped to the ground. I looked under the tractor and found my lift lever snapped in two. So I took the blower and chains off this tractor and got out my 418A . Third times a charm. The 418A finished the job. I guess this is a good reason that there is no such thing as having too many Wheel Horses.

Nope. Did I say it was a bad day? No heat in shed ! Hoping it is just a spark plug on the 520H. Have not looked into it yet. Might wait till it's warmer out. Not much of a poster but plan on changing that. Plenty of nice people here!

SYMPATHETIC .... Would that be an oil that was sorry your tranny died ? Sorry leave96...........I couldn't resist .....

$20 in tubes could solve the problem also.

You are not overpaying,if you don't believe me go to Sears and see what 1000.00 buys.

Hello! I joined this forum pretty recently and I'm probably not the typical forum visitor. I build scale models - usually 1/25 cars - and I've been working on an Electro 12 model. BTW, many of the model cars that I build are my favorite car and another South Bend native - Studebakers. I found this site while searching online for reference photos and manuals. It's a great place with a lot of excellent resources. Reminds me a lot of the Studebaker Drivers Club forum where the members have always been very supportive of my model building. Makes me want to have a real Wheel Horse (and a Studebaker). Anyway, this is where it all started: Probably not many people are more interested in the Wheel Horse than they are in the Indy Car but I'm building the tractor and may never build the car. The tractor in the kit appears to be Charger but after looking over this forum for a while I decided to convert it to the Charger's cousin - a 1969 Electro 12. I had already built the engine as it came in the box but I realized it wasn't correct for this tractor. This is what the first build-up looked like: So I stripped the paint off and did a conversion: The next order of business was building a mower deck since the kit didn't have one and what good is a Wheel Horse without it! I downloaded the manual for a 5-1422 (Thank you, Forum!) and started scratchbuilding. This has been a lot of fun! Here are a few shots from the build-up and the finished mower: The paint is Duplicolor Bright Red which is a GM color. I bought some IH Red at Tractor Supply but didn't really like the drying properties of the paint. The GM Red matches it very well and in fact I brushed on a little of the IH color as touch-up paint in a few spots and can't see the difference. Duplicolor is my preferred paint. It dries fast and hard. There's certainly more to come. I hope you enjoy. Most of the other major components are under construction right now and will be ready to post soon.

Watched the 7pm news on WNEP Scranton PA. First one showed a GT-14 ( I think) with an FEL in Williamsport PA clearing snow. I was trying to make a note when they cut to another piece with a 520 (I think quick shot) and a blower clearing snow in Hometown, PA. OK who are the lucky TV stars???

IMO if you find one that you have no intentions of EVER selling then you did not overpay.

Man, that story needs a good sound track to go with it.

Dino, you don't have any snow! Our entire yards are as deep as your bank! I was out to the west in Honor this afternoon and the banks along the road were within a foot of covering the road signs. I was in East Tawas yesterday and took a pic of a doe in an opening in the trees, buried up to her neck munching on small trees. If you look close she is in the center of the pic. The loader came thru the neighborhood today. Bet your Tecky would not throw over those piles!

got home today and these were in the driveway......... hmmmm......

personally what i think you guys are calling fair value is too low, i would pay more if i needed one, knowing what i know about their capability. For what they can do to help maintain your property and for how long they will still last if maintained, they're cheap say you pay 500 for a tractor, plow and deck; how much would you spend in one year on having your driveway plowed and your lawn mowed? when you take that into account is $1000 cheap for something to get these tasks done? to mow my lawn would cost $75-100 per week. (I have about 35,000 ft2 of lawn) just plowing for this storm at my house would be over $100. it's about $40-60 every time they show up this storm would have been a couple of visits mine have paid for themselves many times over if you are collecting them to fix up and drive around at shows then you may consider them expensive. You will put alot into them making them look better than new

Parts lists call for a 3/16" x 1" cotter pin in that location. I found that the hole needs to have the rust removed to get the 3/16" cotter pin in. Not a good application for a quick pin as they quickly get removed. Garry

I'm guilty of paying to much but I try to look at what I'm getting even if the its just a parts mower I try to look at what it would cost to buy the transmission or a steering wheel or a seat it all adds up right and you would be stuff your going to use why not pay 50$ for a mower that don't run but has good trans and other things you would use than ur money ahead

Before I would spend $248 for new rims I would go to another shop and have them mounted. Sounds like all they need is the side walls blown out to catch. Were the side walls crushed in when you got them?

Will never happen...if they all go in the box with you.

Inevitable. Can't pass up. All of mine were BARGAINS!!!! Marvin

Woke up this morning to 5" of new snow with 1/2" of ice on top. After breakfast I fired up the D and hit three driveways. The snow thrower slowly ate through the heavy snow & ice. The chute clogged twice so I had to slow down some. The fourth driveway was a different story. My D has the power but not the traction. The drive is about 100' long and most of it is uphill. Thye D just will not grab, even with chains and wheel weights. So I had to resort to my Deere with the snow plow. At least it will go UP the drive so I can plow DOWN the drive. Once I broke up the snow with the plow and pushed it as far as I could (which wasn't too far) I was able to chew through the piles and throw that stuff where it belongs. Now, all three of my elderly neighbors can get out if necessary, All in all, it was a good day.

They would have gotten some good laughs if they were filming me!

All I need to do is convince the wife that the big show is being held to celebrate her birthday and I'm in!

The ATV tires look very cool!! 416-AT8

Looking very nice Martin!

I'm thinking you took those pics at the Nasa Fake Moon Landing site! I'll have some up after I'm done playin!

Again, thanks to everyone. Just like whbob2 said, some vertical shaft augers cross reference directly to the same number on the 79360. I found a badly beaten blower for a 257H that had a straight auger. Checked the Toro fiche and bingo! Picked up the the junk blower yesterday for $75, stripped out the auger, painted it, and put my little version of Clarence's impeller mod on there and bolted on to my tall chute. I just finished using it on 8" of wet snow. Works great now! Throws the wet snow at least 20 feet. Thanks Again Everyone.

I had to quit using the Lawn Ranger Snowthrower last night as the lift rod was hanging loose and I had to back up into the garage. The problem was as I suspected the lift rod push pin used in the front came off . I needed a good sized washer and new push pin to get everything back in order. An easy fix but I am going to need this working as Round Two of this snowstorm will happen today or Saturday and Sunday. This 47 year old Lawn Ranger and snowthrower does not throw the snow 15 feet but it does the job and I am more and more impressed about how good the Wheel Horse products were back when these were manufactured. You can see the lift rod is loose from the STR -324 snowthrower in this photo. Here is a photo of the lift rod, a washer and a push pin -ready for reattachment!

When you get new tires, especially if they are shipped to you, they come somewhat flattened, especially at the bead. I spread the bead and put pieces of 2 x 4 (about 10" long) at 3 or 4 places to hold the bead spread and put them in a warm place for a few days. When I mount them, I take the valve stem out of the valve so that I am getting the full shot of air to help seat the bead.

Hello Gazza, it's Charlie from Facebook, glad you finally made it onto RedSquare. I told you this lot where a jolly good bunch! Welcome and have fun!

Remember the C165 with the Kohler K341was the pinnacle of the WH line before Toro and most think the best tractors WH ever made. They are very hard to come by. Is this an 81,82 or 83? Welcome to the Black Hood Clan!

$300 One of the attachments is worth that!!! all rolled into one on that find.

Not aware of any animal deaths down there?, but know of the Crop Loss costs. Not over yet either. 2 more pretty heavy storms are due through Thursday and the Weekend. I see the Railway Line and Station are being slowly wrecked in Dawlish. Much of the water supply issues in the South East and West are due to the sheer volume of population here, the Aquifer Storage and Reservoirs are unable to sustain the demand for long. All the water runs out to sea and can't soak into the underground storage quick enough. No space for more Surface Storage. I watched a programme about the Water Companies behaviour with regard to investment the other night. I was shocked to hear that they had paid out as much in share dividends as the had made in profits out of us! I don't have a problem with Water Meters. You should pay for what you use. The issue I have is the High Charge Rate per Cu Metre. It won't get any better as Stormin says. The Towns down here are being joined up due to expansion. It will only get worse The Jet Stream controls our weather in the Northern Hemisphere. we get what it wants to produce, no if's or but's. Ok , we had the wettest winter or month for a hundred years, so what. It is not new, because it was nearly just as wet a hundred years ago!. They were having serious Storms here in 1703 (24th November) !!. Before we started seriously burning coal and a fraction of the current population Just because the Thames has not completely frozen over for a couple of hundred years, it doesn't mean it won't happen again. (it nearly did in the 1940's) The severe weather in the U.S. is coming from the Canadian Arctic, so the only consolation is that the Polar Ice must still be frozen and not melting. Got to take what Mother Nature throws at us.

Impressive!

I use 10W – 30 oil in my transmission. Based on some of the posts here, I will switch to sympathetic. synthetic.

Looks like a good time! I like seeing round hoods working! I wish I would get some snow to play in here in tn!

Thanks Kai and Steveasaurus... I took your advice and checked the drive belt...YEAH, so loose. Checked the manuel and its a 73.8" belt so I had to go with a 74". OMG what a difference.

The tractor is starting to come together now. I had to build a few items that weren't in the kit like a taillight, lift valve, lift cylinder and neutral pedal. Oh, and a fuel filter, too. This is it on the tip of a toothpick. Detailing the battery always adds some extra visual interest. That's the kind of thing that helps make a model look real. I took a little liberty with the transaxle and painted it aluminum. I thought that would also give some visual interest - sort of an eye catcher - but I'm not really happy with it. Before everything is done it will end up being red! Now, this next part was fun to do. Wheel covers are an essential part of an Electro and I had an idea to make them out of a soft drink lid using a hollow punch. It worked like a charm! The horse decals didn't want to snug down on the shiny Alclad painted finish and a couple of them had to be redone but in the end they came out okay. After a little bit of paint, she was up on all fours and ready for some test fitting and even some assembly. I had already painted the fender unit but during test fit I realized that it needed a cutout for the hydraulic hoses. Now it's waiting to get repainted. The weather the last few days has been very rainy and I don't want to paint the "shiny bits" until the humidity goes down. That really affects the finish. In the meantime, it's starting to sprout wires and hoses and this is how it sits for the time being. Hope to make more progress soon but right now I need to check a weather forecast!

One other note that I forgot to add- Not all Seniors used the Model A rearend either. They also used Ford V-8 rearends. Snyders is a great source for "A" parts also I have used Joblot Automotive out of NY when Snyders doesn't have what I need. There are NO whimpy tractors in MR Whlpnys barn- they all are able to be used as intended. I have plenty of other workers here -no need to sell the Rs-83 to buy one as money isn't an obect. They were built to be used and so be it - that makes owning them fun.

Too much like work, lazy installer there...that's all. OOPS...did I say that out LOUD?

Yeah I overpay too….nothing I can do about it…its a sickness…I too have had some amazing deals but overpaid for my 18 auto cuz I couldn't live without it

'Ow do!, Gazza. Welcome!

One thing is for sure. If you replace enough parts you are bound to stumble across the bad one.

The RS-83 used a Ford V-8 Gearbox. The Lever Steer Pond used a Ford Model A Gearbox. I have used My RS -83 as a worker- its has plowed the garden, gone to plow days, Scraped a lot of snow. Theres nothing on it that can't be replaced. Its a worker and wears its show clothes as it is. By far the best driving running tractor I have ever owned.

I hate to admit i have plastic crapsmen weights on one of mine. But the price was right. Sent from my LG-LS980 using Tapatalk

Here's a couple pic's to try to show the depth a little better.

oh ya it's staying original i just need to get it running and the frame fixed. then find a snow plow for it locally if i can. i'm not taking the dent's out of the hood or anything.

The first thing to do is lift up the boot on the shifter. Just in front of the shifter is a dog point set screw with a lock nut on it. loosen the lock nut and, with an Allen wrench, take out the set screw. Lift out the shifter and look in the hole. If it is in neutral, you should see the 2 shift forks form a square in the center of the hole. If you do not see the square, with a large screw driver, try to pry the forks (one at a time) so you get the square. Let us know what you see when you first look into the hole. By the sound of it, the shift fork toward the front of the tractor, which is your 1st and reverse gears, may be centered. The fork toward the rear of your tractor, which is your 2nd and 3rd gears, may be stuck to the right. Regardless, try to center the forks. If you can center the forks, you are in neutral. If you can get into neutral, then try to move each fork (one at a time) from side to side...coming back to neutral before moving the other fork. You can put the rear end up on blocks to do this, so you do not have to drive it. If everything works up to this point...look at your shifter. It should have the ball that the set screw goes into and a shaft below that with a small ball on the end. If all is good...put it back together and check it out. The thinking here is...your shifter is sitting in the 1st and reverse gear fork, while your other fork is locked into 3rd gear. It was binding up when you had both forks in a gear at the same time. Lining both forks in the neutral position and re-inserting the shifter should fix your problem if the shifter is OK. Remember that you have to come to a complete stop when you shift gears. The howling noise you have is a concern. I know you changed the oil, and running it on blocks may reduce the noise after the oil has had time to do it's thing. More likely, you have some worn bearings, in which case you will need to drop the trans and open it up and replace any bad bearings and all the seals. We will see. BTW...the trans is easy to fix if you have to open it up.

i went searching and think i found the listing for this tractor. I'm sorry but i don't think the description on the listing was deceiving at all. it wasn't very thorough..... Wheel Horse C 165 lawnmower comes with snow blade and front and back wheel weights. Mower does run . It has a Kohler engine . I will help load on your truck or trailer or could deliver for a fee . it can be picked up in PLYMOUTH INDIANA 46563 CASH ON PICK UP ! and they did give you additional info about the engine..... i would not have just bought it for that price without looking at it first or at least getting some opinions on here first. that price is way more than i would have paid, but its not really out of line for what i see tractors go for on that site. as far as condition goes, its not in the best condition, but I've bought worse ( but also for less money). most of the rust is surface from what i see, the left cover is pretty bad and probably needs to be replaced, but the condition overall is fairly typical of tractors that age. same with parts missing. these machines have been around a few years now and its getting harder to find good examples on the lower end....... this forum and its members are here for help and advice, just need to ask..... i think the whole deal should have been handled differently from your end, you did go in blindly on a tractor that the owner was not really telling you anything untrue...... heres how you need to handle it from here on out......... forget about what you paid for it, its over and done with. fix the tractors problems and enjoy it. you have a capable tractor there once running right..... or, restore it to its former glory and show it off as one of your collection. but, don't forget to ask questions and opinions, thats what we are here for......

Today made a top hitch bracket thingie for the larger cart. PO had taken it off and added a 'redneck' drawbar extension that sat inside the chassis rail. Can only imagine that it was to allow a tighter turning circle but as it pivoted inside the frame it had rather distorted the sides of the frame which straightened up in the press. Don't have the dimensions for the original so worked based on what looked aesthetically ok. It's a Hilmor type but not make Richard. I have a good one of this type of bender that I use for copper plumbing work but with this project in mind I picked up the one above for a few quid at Netley Marsh as I didn't want to risk trashing the good one by using steel pipe in it. The tube will (hopefully) form the inner edge as you'll see in a moment. Here's the tube in place and a little sketch of how I'm hoping to do it Ian. I've been itching to weld the tube to the tub but know that I really need to do a test piece first and probably some practice pieces as well before doing anything to the tub. I've got to go metal shopping before this though as I don't have any more 20mm tube or rod the right size. I may buy some square bar as well as the rod as it would make welding easier though would require grinding the curved profile. Hope this makes sense, havent tried any of this before but the idea seems good and it will all be out of sight under the lip of the tub. Andy