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I just wanted to say after being on here for a few years and seeing how the European buddies we have on Red Square have grown their participation, great contributions and innovative interaction on the website, we sure can learn a lot from you folks in the Wheel Horse department! I find myself "peeking" into the Europe forum more and more! A big thank you for all you do on Red Square.

Heres one of my old hobbies. Sad but true, I actually sold her. Only reason I sold was because I don't always feel right being diabetic, so rather than have something happen at a high rate of speed I opted to sell. Shes not far away at all. John

I mentioned this to a number of people, one of my favorite parts of RedSquare is our international community. The Euro section as it stands today is actually take 2 on the area. The first attempt was in 2008, which was a complete failure. After 6 months I removed it since mine was the only post in there. I think that it was just too soon, without a large enough member base. This second iteration however is awesome. For us Americans, where else could you possible see a Wheel Horse in front of Stonehenge? Sure, it's in the book now, but it was HERE first! I look forward to more and more members joining and making the Euro section even larger!

Lane, Many Thanks for your Interest in the Euro section of Redsquare , Although quite small in numbers compared to the US , There are quite a few people that collect Wheelhorse Products in the UK & it is growing slowly bigger each year . Not all come on Redsquare , but those that do are real Enthusiasts & with all sorts of talents . I myself, is more into collecting rare wheel horse tractor to take to different shows around the UK as my mechanical skills & facilities are quite limited & i really enjoy the history part of this hobby. Since joining redsquare a few years ago i have made some really good friendships with different people both sides of the pond & one particular person that i have grown very close too is Michael Martino & family whom i have regular contact with via email & only last night i had a really enjoyable long conversation with Richard ( AngloTraction ) where we discussed many different topics ranging from Wheelhorses , old war stories, work families etc . When i joined Redsquare , there were only two or three Euro members which was myself , Stigian , Anglo traction and i ask Karl to introduce a section for Euro members & it has now grown to maybe 10 or 15 or even more members from UK. The talents that these guys have is truly inspirational & recently we have Mark Smith (Meadowfield) with his amazing skills & knowledge . I really hope over the next few years that the Euro section of Redsquare continues to grow & we manage to get more members join us here at Redsquare . Two years ago we managed to arrange our first wheelhorse get together at a vintage machinery show which was a real success , sadly that has folded this year due to a few problems with the the management team, so we are in the process of rearanging another venue so that we can continue to promote Wheel horse & Redsquare in the UK . It is also wonderful that other members from other European countries that have also joined Redsquare & these people are also regularly active on the forum We also have some younge guys that have come into the hobby which is really great to see . Ie Charlie smith i am sure the other guys will make an appearance & say there thank you`s

Do you have trouble pushing that "mile drive" that you bolt to the front of that tractor, Bob ?

anyone want to buy a 1 year old ariens 30" snow blower? j/k this was the first chance i had to plow with my 48 farmall cub (hey, at least it's red!) what a joy! i had so much fun plowing the neigborhood. i'm still going to need the snowblower though, for those mornings when there's a foot or more on the ground, but that old cub is a ton of fun.

I got ALOT painted today. Camera isn't working good right now but I've got two pics of my frame. I got a sag as you can see. Of course it would be on the outside so EVERYONE can see. The rest of it looks really great. As you can see on the front of the frame in the other picture I got very little or no orange peel in most places.

Yes, we all have a learning experience that we can share. But it seems that the older you get, the harder it is to heal. And when you are on the slippery side of the slope, you don't want to grease that slide any more than it already is. I know what you say about always doing something that needs a band-aide. Having been in the home improvement trade, I buy them by the gross. On one occasion, I went to my cardiologist for a regular checkup and I had a band-aide on every finger. The doctor looked at me and said "business must be good". Anyway, I hope you heal quickly. And please, no picture needed on this one.

Just thought I'd give a quick update. I painted the grill to the OE semi-flat black finish, and installed the headlights as well as the front Case decal. I'm hoping to start on the mower deck tomorrow. HERE IS A VIDEO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Innr_zXg-ZU&feature=youtu.be Matt

Here's mine, been reliably getting the job done for a few thousand years.

Paint looks good now! Just takes a little bit of trial and error. AFAIK, Etch primer was produced to create an adhesion to chemically treated bare metal. What I mean is, in the automotive world, Cars have a galvanizing on the metal and the etch primer is meant to create a strong bond to the plating with out damaging the plating like extensive sanding would do. If I were you, hand sanding out with 220 grit on bare metal followed by a DTM high build would be good. High build fills in some nasty pits and scratches so the scratches left by 220 grit will be invisible. Also, with most primers, they will say what the "flash time" is. The paint I used on my truck was a 24 hour flash time. If I did not top coat the existing paint within 24 hours, it had to be sanded to create a surface suitable to bond another coat. If I waited more than 24 hours the paint would glaze over and be smoother than it was. I do whatever I can to spray within a flash time so I don't have to sand besides any present imperfections I may find. Usually as soon as the material is dry to the touch, you can top coat. If tacky or too soft, the paint will take longer to cure and there is a risk for a blistering effect. When I say blistering effect, imagine a desert where the ground is all cracked and opened up. That's what it will look like! Charlie

I'll give you one for now! Iowa Hawkeyes to win!!! Who didn't know that!!! As always, Go Hawkeyes!!!

looks good matt, looking at the thickness of that deck shell, that thing must be a real back breaker....... makes it easy to lay some decent welds on there though, definitely beats welding up rusted out tissue paper for steel.......

pics would help on this as well. ive had a few different onans and the guys over at smok stak forums were a great help for id and manuals etc..... join up and ask in the generator section. they would probably appreciate pics as well. http://www.smokstak.com are you going to use it for a generator again or something else? the reason i ask is most onan generator motors have weird crank ends and make them very hard to use for other jobs..... and they can make you poor buying parts for them........

Rexman, I have a 44" two stage as well, and have changed that bearing before, what fun. Blowers are loud to begin with, especially when they are not moving any snow. If you listen carefully to the noise, can you start to get a feel for how fast the parts are moving that are making the noise? The augers and the fan shaft don't really rotate all that fast, so I would think that a noise from them would have a fairly slow frequency. Have you greased the zerk fittings on the fan shaft bearing and the upper jack shaft? The chain drive and it's associated sprockets are moving much faster, and will produce more of a roar when something is failing or too tight. I know from experience that you can vary the pitch of the blowers noise by changing the tension of the chain. If it is too tight, it will let you know, i.e. very loud roar. The manual calls for 1/8" to 1/2" of deflection in the chain, as measured in the long run from the lower sprocket to the top sprocket. I would guess that I have about 3/8" deflection in mine. A bad bearing in one of the idler sprockets could make some noise too. The belt drive is normally pretty quiet. Of course you do have four pulleys with bearings in the carriage, they should all spin freely. If you are working around the blower, make sure that you do not have any loose clothing, drawstrings, etc. hanging down near moving parts. Bad stuff happens fast! Be safe. Let us know how you make out/what you find. Rick

I was wondering if anybody has added the front tachmatic hitch to the older tractors such as a gt-14? Was thinking if you could then you could use the newer mowers etc. Thanks

Sorry Trouty... I just couldn't resist.

As Neil mentioned, I'm one of the young ones here in the euro section I think there is a few others, i love these little machines, I also collect other weird and wonderful things, I have a mowett mustang, that completely needs restoring as to be fairly honest there's not a lot of it left, it's a tad on the rusty side, I also have the 1963 Cubcadet I must say when I first brought the cub cadet I was playing way on it for a few hours, driving about the fields, then I parked it up and got the the raider 10 and my oh my, the wheel horse is heaven to drive in comparison so even though I have other tractors, deep down my love for wheel horses will always be there, (ONLY 9 MORE DAYS until I can read my copy of straight from the horses mouth wheel horse story final edition book, I sorted out all the purchasing but it was with Christmas money from the parents, so can't read it or even look at it until christmas, god it's killing me!!! Anyway all I can say is a huge thank you to all those who help make this happen, if it wasn't for you, I would have never found this forum. I think it's a great lively place, I must say I try to get on here everyday, just to be nosey see what you've all been up too -Charlie

By golly, you're right. I didn't notice that until you pointed it out.

It hasn't been tested yet, but I put one under an 854 to check clearances, etc. I'll have to give it a try next summer.

Realistically speaking, your old hubs can be rebuilt. But the time and cost of materials make $300.00 seem cheap. You could bead blast them, fill all the voids with JB Weld, and re-machine to original surface. Or use a file and sandpaper (which takes a mind boggeling amount of time) and for giggles and grins put thread inserts into all the bolt holes. Weld it up? Be serious. The $100.00 each for cast iron seems reasonable. If it were me I'd spend cash for steel, lathe, mill, and weld them, and maybe still have to buy new ones. I'm currently in a tussle trying to re-manufacture clutch fork shafts for my Windolph Crawler. I made new shafts out of cold rolled steel. They twisted immediately. I made two new shafts out of 4140 and had them professionally heat treated, along with a pair of cold rolled shafts. I tried one of the 4140 shafts just this weekend. After re-assembling that entire right side of my tractor, the shaft fractured. Now I start from square one as I think the cold rolled shafts would break too. If you can buy "new" parts it's sometimes better than having to make them.

That is why shin guards are used by baseball catchers. I heard of a case where someone died after being hit on the shin by a ball. Can't be too careful, especially those of us at an advanced age. Oh to be young and invincible. Marvin

Just a quick update on this project. After discussing the rebuild of this motor (216ci) with my uncle who is an engine builder he convinced me not to touch that motor as it is not fully pressurized. He, along with others (Thanks Chip) told me to find a 235CI which is the updated version with fully pressurized motor. One of the guys who works for my uncle told me that his sone has one that is in his 56 Chevy 150 (bel air) that he was planning on pulling to install an LS motor. I went and saw it and heard her run so that is the one that will go in my truck. There will be a few mods and I will need to use my original tranny. The 56 is already upgraded to the 12volt so that means I will be updating the truck to 12 volt too. Did not plan on that but I have to now which will be better. The guy who has the new motor needs a month of two to pull it as he has a few other projects ahead of that. He also has a bodyshop so I may be able to work out a deal with him to clear coat the truck. The only thing I plan on doing to the motor is to replace the valve cover gasket, clean the motor and install it. I included a picture of the firewall below so you can see how the motor color will complement the engine color. I started to recover the seat. It was pretty beat but I got the frame cleaned up, primed and painted. This afternoon I went and got the new burlap and foam etc to start to recover it. I had to fix the backrest frame with 1x flatstock too. Below are pics of the new motor and seat. Slow and steady on this project.

Here is a list of Snow Attachment Manuals. Jim http://www.scribd.com/doc/47347681/wheelHorse-Snow-Attachments-Manuals

Oh...and just go a little slower and take half the width after you get that first pass. I'll often hold the blower up on the first pass when it's heavy, let the chains dig me back and then go for it again.

Here's what I use! It isn't red but plows and blows better then any Wheel Horse I ever owned. Can't beat the live hydraulics. I only wished the Ponds added them to their product line.

Awesome job you've done on this tractor

KC9..., also gota remember about the possibility of a clot getting into the bigger return line, and oh #@&%. A fellow down here walked too close to trailer hitch, hit his shin, later had difficulty breathing, went into ER, and died. The clot got on the move, made it through heart into lungs...pulmonary embolism. I warn wife about that every time we are near a rear bumper. You take care, guy!

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My first half century mark today, so...thanks for the well wishes guys, Don(verosd)is right...I had the graveyard shift plowing at the Academy last night(happy birthday, huh?)...started the shift in an 8 ton Chevy dump truck, which is outfitted with sander and plow. The plow's pump decided to seize up half way through the snowfall portion of the storm...of course maintenance doesn't have a replacement pump on hand. So, I had to swap for another truck...by the time I got back on the road, the storm had turned over to a sleet, and freezing rain event on top of our initial six inches of snow. Always fun(NOT!), running double time, tryin' to play catch up on your route, in and unfamiliar truck. Then, the fun really begins when your shift ends, and you come home to a driveway full of the same...yep, there's the big SIGH! Not this time though...Mrs Rules surprised me with all the outdoor Christmas lights on, as I'm coming down our street, I see she's out blowing snow out of the drive, with her new Toro electric power shovel I got her...such the heavenly sight to behold. You know...there's just something about coming home to a clean driveway after you've been out plowing all night...trust me, that alone is a wonderful birthday present in itself. Makes me want to bust out in my happy dance, just thinkin' about it.

i spotted that silver one. i like the silver ones as much as the red........ every bit as good as the red ones.......

Though I haven't been involved in this hobby recently, I am an accomplished amateur cabinet maker. I used to make reproductions of old hoosier-type cabinets. Here is a link to one of my creations. This cabinet was built from scratch. All lumber was purchased from a sawmill, then worked in my shop/garage. http://homebuiltforum.com/topic/62-reproduction-sellers-kitchen-cabinet/

ok, looks like we have the footboard replacement re surfaceing issue coverd from fron to back. Holy smokes I never thought there would be so many options. thanks Now re: part 2, what color paint would be a fair match to just sand and touch up with? I have seen on other threads here comments on paint colors, ie; rustoleum red, international harvestor, etc. but I dont want to re paint, just touch up. PLUS, PLUS, PLUS, in a little while I have to start another thread, wait to you guys see what I found. I think it will interest most of you fellas. maybe even all of you.. Keep your eyes peeled for it. And gntleman, thank you for all the combined answers and ideas. Glenn

engine oil + touch screen=mess

Yes...it is a thin piece of flat metal acting like a fork sliding the gear...doesn't really take to much to bend or break after time. Remember...these trannys are usually around 30 to 40 years old...parts do get some wear. I know some of my gears started to show signs of wear when I was around 30...a little more wear at 40...I am 60+ now...and with the right lubrication, I just keep going. I also stop first before I change gears...very important.

A 5/8" x 69" belt should work on both series of tractors. Belt travels off the outer groove of the pto, under the V-idler, over the flat idler and around the snowthrower pulley and back to the top of the pto outer groove. Garry

Test test test.......coming home with my baby. Glenn Ok. I think Glenn

My snowfighting equipment set up for this year's battle's! The 1967 Wheel Horse Lawn Ranger, L-157 with the STR-324 32 inch Snowthrower The 1963 Wheel Horse 633 with BD-4262 - 42 inch Snowplow/Dozer Blade

I use a 1995 520H with a 42 inch tall chute blower and a 1993 416H with a 48 inch blade. Edwroy

Ok, no fair. You already posted the first video blowing snow... Now another one.... You are banned from the group... You are having WAY TO MUCH FUN!!!

Always been fascinated with things in miniature and seem to manage and learn all things practical with reasonable ease for most of my life. Ended up being a 'Tool Freak' and precision work like Model Engineering. This is my 1" scale 'Still yet to finish Project' - My recent excuse has been The 2 WHs taking up my time and getting the Workshop straight. I have a degree of reluctance to actually paint it due to the array of wonderful coloured metals and finishes, but I will. I also changed the design to improve detail which made more work for myself.. The not-so-good Pics were taken some time ago and some progress made. The Boiler has been Tested and Certificated for 50psi running steam pressure. I just don't learn do I !.

Is the cat's name Rudolph?

Good story Karl, Just brings back a lot of good memories. Best days of my life from '74' - '88' working for British Caledonian Airways and being surrounded by female Cabin Staff on every departure I dispatched and met on arrival , as well as many other World Airlines we handled over the years. The all night parties, Double shifts in between them seemed to erode our Cultural differences. It was like one giant family of thousands. Had a lot of friends from the various North American and Canadian Airlines like Pan Am, Delta, U.S Air, Capital, ONA, North West, Canadian. So the world became a much smaller place for me. Oh English Muffins !. great hot with Crunchy Peanut Butter.

Im glad that you liked the Topic of the 1950`s . Karl English Muffins , well i can honestley say that i dont know of anyone that eats them here in UK . although the English are well known for drinking lotsa tea , i have been known to drink around twelve cups of tea a day . English food is quite a complex menu really . It is common knowledge the us Brits have a national dish of Fish & chips (French Fries) which was traditionally eaten out of old newspaper & sprinkled with lots of salt & vinegar & is also traditionally eaten on fridays . Back in the 60`s fish & chips were the only form of fast food that we had here in UK & every town had a local shope that had a fish n chip shop . It was around the early 70s that Wimpy hamburgers came to UK followed by Mcdonalds a few years later , & now that britain has become multicultural there are many different nationality fast food outlets . As for the two Absolutely beautiful flight attendants That stayed with you . Did you get their address The UK also has regional dishes, by which i mean that different parts of the country has there own form of local delicacy, such as :- Traditional London dish that was eaten in the East End of London was called Pie & mash & jellied Eels . which was minced lamb pies with mash potato with a parsley sauce again with lots of salt & vinegar applied , the Jellied eels were salted jelly with diced eels, along with other shell fish , shrimps , prawns , mussels , crab, cockles, winkles , welks etc . Liverpool has a dish of what is called scouse which is a kind of stew made up of all the leftover meats from the weeks other meals . Lancashire hot pot , is a kind of shepherds pie which again is mice lamb with mash potato over the top & then baked in the oven Cornish pasties , is a kind of pastry filled with mince lamb , potato & vegetables. Haggis, scottish delicacy made from oats & offal & then placed in a sheep stomach lining & then cooked , an aquired taste . & many more local dishes. These were all cheap foods that were used to feed families way back when food was very scarce & families were poor . Alcohol is a big thing here in UK , as many younge teenagers get totally smashed on beer or larger or cider . I fell quite ashamed of some of the younge culture that get drunk nowadays as Alchohol is sold way to cheap in the supermarkets . Sadly due to high taxes on Alchohol here in Uk alot of the pubs are dying & shutting. We do have quite a few real ale beers that a brewed here that a just wonderful to drink One drink that is allways popular here is the Irish stout Guiness , A nice thick drink that should be drank really cold .

The D's are the BIG DOGS in the Wheel Horse line up. When I see pictures of Wheel Horse tractors that i like, I save the pictures. This D is not mine but the pictures are two of my favorites. It was restored and it did belong to one of our members at one time but I lost track of which one. Not sure if it is eligible but since we all like pictures and this is a beauty I will put it up anyway. I think this D looks awesome with the big snow blower on it.

First off, . Nice to have another Suburban owner here. If you have any short peices of steel welded to the frame with threaded holes in them, you most likely have a 550/551. These peices were the hood stand custom for the 550/551 battery. The 400 had a "firewall" type hood stand that bolted directly to the frame. I'm not too sure what you mean by "square hole" in the hood, but the 61 throttle controls, were next to the steering wheel hole, were round as they were pull knobs. The 60 version was on the hood in back of the steering wheel hole and had a rectangular setup with slide controls. If you're tranny has "plates" on the side of them, then thats a 1960, unless it's a 1961 401. The 551 had a two peice casted rear end. I have a post, if you look for it in the transmission section. It has lots of pics of redoing a 3 speed, so you could see what you're getting yourself into. If you have the plated tranny, it's the same thing, with exception to the shift fork rail setup. They're not bad to work on. More pics of this are also in my post on 551 suburban restore. A few pics would go a long way, besides we like pics anyway. I do have a few Suburban parts left for sale if needed. Just ask. Good Luck.