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First and foremost I would like to thank you all for your support and patience with Lola and I over the past 5 years. Through all the ups and downs. It has been a journey for sure. My customer support has been all over the place from terrible to excellent and you have always been more than kind and understanding. Thank You Now for the good News!! Due to changes in our lives and the graduation of our daughter who is now a registered nurse and gainfully employed, Lola and I can make some changes that will allow us to focus only on our Wheel Horse customers and one major client. This will allow our customer service to improve immensely. As well as allow us time to ride our bike and attend tractor shows. We will be transitioning from our shop to home over the next few months and unfortunately I am old enough to start collecting my RR pension soon. All these things will allow me to focus on the things that mean the most to me. Wheel Horse tractors and our RedSquare family of friends. Thanks again for all your encouragement and support over the years and I look forward to meeting many of you at the shows.

How about this?

Your going to have to make a snorkel like the swamp buggys use!

Had to move the new horse hauler and pull the sr out in order to get the 701 in first getting ready for the show. While she was out took her for a little cruise and it was a nice ride for sure. I also picked up a 312-8 on fFriday with fireman along with a few other goodies. Here are some pics.

Caption this: "Now where did Steve leave that stupid hammer again?" "Those drapes aren't going to hang themselves!"

Have been saving the 48" mower deck from my rebuilding of the 1054 til last, so 2 weeks ago I committed to the task. Just a casual look-see it didnt seem too bad, no rust thru with the usual seeming surface rust, coupla frozen idler pulleys, bad belts - really nothing to worry me... HAH! had I only known! Before pic I would urge anyone looking to buy, or about to buy, a used deck to consider what I ran into on this one. As noted in the pic, it was - as usual - dirty and rusty and therefore hiding many of its problems. As I disassembled it the first major find was the amount of rust found when I separated the deck support from the deck body, deep pitting and complete rust through in two places. Considering sandwiching two pieces of metal together like this and adding some 60 years, I guess it had to be - wonder it wasnt worse! Going along I would find this and that to add to the 'need to fix that' list, then as I would take an individual piece and deep clean it - wire brush/sand blast, etc - the really nasty places would start appearing, stress cracks all over the place, badly wallowed out shaft holes with the shaft equally worn. bad/worn bearings, bushing non existent some places --- etc. But, I would take one piece at a time and come up with a way to make a repair or replace and slowly it came together. Course I havent cut a blade of grass with it yet, got to get it hung under the tractor, but --- I have high hopes! On the rust thrus, after getting the scale off with a air chisel (that in itself was a chore!) and studying on it for a while, I decided that welding pieces of plate steel over the 2 places was my best - and least complicated - choice, and, it seemingly turned out pretty well. A good thing I have a nice size lathe and Bridgeport mill, I had to bring them into play several times making shafts, bushings, rods, spacers, etc. The center spindles pulley had apparently got loose and the slack had cracked split it and the shaft and I never did find a replacement for it, so the lathe saved the day again, I just made a new one. The front lift piece was totally useless, having been welded and rewelded so many times and was still cracked all over, I just took a piece of 4" channel and made a new one (see bottom pic, with the 'toothpick' blades), the rear lift bushings were either missing or wallowed out so bad - I bored them out and rebushed all 4 of them. Most of the hardware was stripped, rounded off, rusty or otherwise no good needing replacements.

I figured I'd put my mug up from the 2012 show so we know each other for the 2013 show . . . hope to see you there

Here is our all original 401. We found this tractor outside of Detroit Michigan on Craigslist from the original family. They had bought it used when it was only a few years old at the time. It was last used in a small air plane hanger to pull a small plane around by the uncle of the gentleman we bought it from. He had passed away leaving it to his daughter & husband who kept it untouched in their garage for 7 years before selling it to us. This tractor has an interesting story & was well taking care of its whole life. The last picture when we picked it up in Michigan from the original owner's son n law. We made some small changes with front wheels & all 4 tires since it didn't have the correct/original wheels on the front. We wanted it to look as original as possible, but we like the ag style tires on the rear better. Other than that it's 100% original. We plan on bringing this to the Wheel Horse Show in June, which will be our first time bringing a tractor. Can't wait!!

Today me and my dad,pulled apart my tractor the 875.. it took about 2 hours to do but we got through it...... Heres some pics of the work today...

I bought a pickup truck crane and plan to use it on my 418-A to move docks at the cabin. I added a rear 2" receiver and mounted the crane to a receiver extension so it can be easily removed. The receiver is attached to a tiller mount and also has bracing to the old hitch mount on the lower portion of the axle. Seems pretty strong.

I stuffed a KT 17 series ll in a C120 chassis.I added a 400 series fuel cell and fenders.I put on an electric actuator with correct rock shaft and relocated the battery to the factory gas tank home.Check it out.It's for grabs in classifieds and on buy/sell/trade on Fb.

This is my Original Cub Cadet. I'm not sure on the year yet, but still looking. If anyone has any ideas that would be great. It has the bolt on spindles and a 7 hp Kohler.

And a section for the less desirable Tractors...

I really appriate the effort of at least doing a detailed write up and pics. This will help me out with my 48" deck I just aquired.

What causes the difference? I bought 2 tillers at a swap meet yesterday, and one of them had a second pulley. Is this the only difference for belt length?

Steve you can pick up a cheep one of these at Harbor fright for around $40. I have one and it works great for the price.

I'm with 312Hydro on this one, you can't defy the laws of physics. You can do wheelies with a tiller mounted on a and if you hang anything heavy on that boom you will have an interesting ride. Please have a vidio camera going and post it!

Your deck is probably a gear driven deck. The blades on these decks turn opposite directions. The left blade turns counter clockwise, as you are sitting on the seat. The right blade will turn clockwise. Therefore you have a left and a right side blade. Are you sure that they are on their correct sides. I just noticed the picture and they appear to be on the wrong sides. If you get them on correctly and it still will not cut then you probably need to look for a slipping belt. Hope this helps. Luck to ya. Larry

Man, that looks like fun...good luck with it Dino.

thats not stock wheel horse Steve you can heat it up with a torch to red hot and let it cool if it's just rusted on it should come off after you do that brian

Here's sorta what I'm talking about. Get a separator behind that pulley and clamp on to the separator with a puller and GRUNT!

Or you can do what I did today when pulling a hub off with a puller... it cracked pieces off the hub

I have an engine pulley like that. Set screws are in the thicker portion and not in the grooves just like you said, so the set screws are not locking to the shaft in that scenario. Must be rust welded on there. Maybe they wedged something in there and hammered it on to keep it on the shaft. Looks like heat, hammer, puller and frustration time. Get'r Done!

Steve- I have never seen that set up before and I am with in saying it was added at some point.

I went to Portland Thursday and met up with our very own deiselcowboy ( Matt ) to purchase a Wheel Horse 856 he had listed here on this site. I had never been to the swap meet at Portland, and really didnt know what to expect. First off...wow! What a wonderful swap meet. Second, I cant believe say enough about the people there...everyone I met was so nice. But let me tell you the thing that still has my head spinning...and my emotions on edge. I never met Matt before. Never talked to him before. He didnt know me from Adam. But when I got to Portland, I met with Matt, secured the transaction for the tractor and thought I would be on my way. Not so...Matt loaded my daughter and I along with his two sons into his trailer and pulled us around the grounds so we could get a up close look at the goings on at Portland. He explained everything to us, shared some personal experiences, talked about tractors, family, and life in general. He gave up a few hours of his own time to share the Portland experience with me, and made me feel like part of his family. He even helped to secure a deal for me with another vendor and saved me some money. When it was all over he even went to his own cooler and brought my daughter and I a cold drink. I loved the entire experience, and I will be returning to Portland. I just wanted everyone to know that we have members like Matt and that is what makes places like this such a wonderful place to spend web time! Thanks Matt! One heck of a guy! Eric Here are a few pics from our personal tour.....(phone pics are crappy)

Had almost the same thing happen to me last year. I was bidding on a pristine Raider 14 with a deck and snow blower. I had all ready bought a nice snowplow with bracket for $35.00 I was the high bidder against 1 another guy at $250. Nobody else was bidding. Started to reach for my number and another guy jumps in and away we went. I stopped at $500

Oh gosh, guys thanks for pics. Guys like me that have only seen four or five different WH models, this is a real treat. The other brands are neat also and appreciate the USA ingenuity that made em all.

I can see it now, big shroud over the grass screen then a large tube straight up in the air about 6 feet to gather fresh air without clippings or leaves. Be great in an open field. Might have to worry about sucking in the occasional bird though.

When needle bearings fail and no one notices...

Martin and Steve : Thanks for posting all the photos at AJ's Garden Tractor Jamboree! Great photos and wish I could of made it up there this year. Your photos almost take you there to the event. Looks like a great time.

What Steve didn't tell you is that the 702 was connected to the trailer and it was turning the trailer wheels PUSHING THE FORD!! Also all the people with the Cutler jerseys were actually the crew hired to clean up the garbage after the show! Notice how one is just finishing emptying the blue can! :ychain:

Thanks Guy's, somehow I just knew you would say "open it up" The hard/nightmare bit would be getting the hitch pin out the back,,,, I can jump up and down on the hitch and it won't budge, so I guess the pin is going to need cutting and drilling out!! Maybe I need to have a measure and see if the trans will fit in my E-tank Steve, well remembered on the video front, that was quite a few years ago, back in the days when I had energy and Garry had hair

Nice score Lars...especially the spare parts. Enjoy!!

Product Details List Model Number 1-0600 Model Year 1973 Beginning Serial None Ending Serial None Product Name 18 hp Automatic Tractor Product Brand Wheel Horse Product Type Riding Products Product Series Garden Tractor, D Series Swath Deck Optional Discharge Deck Optional Engine/Motor Manufacturer Kohler Engine/Motor Model K482S-35209B Engine/Motor Size 18 hp Engine/Motor Type 4 Cycle Engine Starter Electric Transmission Manufacturer Sundstrand Transmission Model 90-1137 Transmission Speeds Infinitely Variable Transmission Type Hydrostatic Tractor 1973 18hp Auto 1-0600 OM Wiring Download Uses transaxle with ~8-pinion differential and 1-1/8" axles driven by 102676 Piston-piston hydro (102677 pump and 102678 motor) (90-1137 Sundstrand) Uses Kohler ~K482S-35209B with electric start, starter solenoid, 15 amp stator and battery ignition [uses (~101917 5-terminal 4-position S-R-B-I-A) replaced by 92-6785 5-terminal 4-position S-R-B-I-L ignition switch] OM Wiring Download Tractor Transmission Horizontal input shaft Hydro Motor 1973-77 Sundstrand Used on (1970 Lawn Ranger 1-8755 not correct) Used on 1973 18hp Auto 1-0600 1-0601 1- 0610 1-0620 Used on 1974-77 D-160 Used on 1974-75 D-180 Used on 1974-77 D-200 102678 WH motor [102676 WH pump and motor + 102677 WH pump and 102678 WH motor = (90-1137 )] 102677 WH pump [102676 WH pump and motor + 102677 WH pump and 102678 WH motor = (90-1137 )] 1-0600 (not listed in engine usage PSB) 1973 Tractor 1973 Auto 18hp Auto OM #A-5326.pdf Download #A-5326=OM from whtmanuals2 2059KB pdf 6 pages Order #A-5354=IPL from Toro Request Manuals IPL ? pages Use the word none for a serial number Sundstrand Hydrostatic Transmission Manual: 492-4206 [Lang:EN] Free Download 66 Pgs from Toro Request Manuals. Use the word none for a serial number. Toro Productivity Series: Hydraulics: 492-4508 [Lang:EN] Free Download 36 Pgs from Toro Request Manuals. Use the word none for a serial number. Wheel Horse Hydraulic Lift Valve/Cylinder Manual: 492-4208 [Lang:EN] Free Download 11 Pgs from Toro Request Manuals. Use the word none for a serial number. Tractor 1973 18hp Auto 1-0601 Service manual Download 1978 SM Download #810063R1=B,C&D SM from Toro Request Manuals 13784KB pdf 71 pages Use model number 81-16OS01 and the word none for a serial number. Service Assembly 101678 1973 18hp Auto Hydraulic Relief Valve Kit Installation Instructions #803412 & IPL Download 101678 Service Assembly [1973] 1974 Tractor 1973 18hp Auto Relief Valve Kit.pdf Download #803412=Installation Instructions from whtmanuals2 583KB pdf 2 pages Tractor 1973 18hp Auto Brakes Disc Turning Fits 18hp Auto D-160 D-180 D-200 OM IPL Download 8-1901 81901 [1973] 1974 Tractor 1973 18hp Auto Brakes Disc 8-1901 #814.pdf Download #814=OM/IPL from whtmanuals2 1503KB pdf 4 pages ________________________________________________________________________________ Tractor 1978-79 B, C & D-Series SM Section 1-4.pdf Good info for older and newer tractors. Specifications, Pre-delivery sevice, General maintenance, Engine, SM #810063R1 4823KB pdf 27 pages Tractor 1978-79 B, C & D-Series SM Section 5.pdf Good info for older and newer tractors. Clutch, brakes, transmission/transaxle, SM #810063R1 4985KB pdf 18 pages Tractor 1978-79 B, C & D-Series SM Section 6.pdf Good info for older and newer tractors. Electrical, SM #810063R1 2696KB pdf 13 pages Tractor 1978-79 B, C & D-Series SM Section 7-9.pdf Good info for older and newer tractors. Attachment lifts, Chassis, Power take-off PTO , SM #810063R1 3561KB pdf 16 pages This Service Manual is in the Files of this whtmanuals2 Group near the bottom of the list ________________________________________________________________________________ Tractor 1973 18hp Auto 1-0600 Transmission Driven coupling replacement Service Assembly 105147 PSB #217 & PSB #305 Download WH61-90 #217 & WH61-90 #305 Failed Driven Coupling 18hp Auto & D-Series.pdf Download PSB #217 & PSB #305 from whtmanuals8 133KB pdf 5 pages & 86KB pdf 2 pages Tractor 1973 18hp Auto 1-0600 Seat replaced with Service Assembly 105197 PSB #281A Download WH61-90 #281A Replacement Seats.pdf Download PSB #281A from whtmanuals8 252KB pdf 3 pages Tractor 1973 18hp Auto 1-0600 Hydraulics New hydraulic lift valve repair kit PSB #284 Download WH61-90 #284 Hydraulic Lift Valve Repair Kit.pdf Download PSB #284 from whtmanuals8 77KB pdf 2 pages Tractor 1973 18hp Auto 1-0600 Front wheel replacement Service Assembly 105179 PSB #322 Download WH61-90 #322 Front Wheel Replacement 18hp Auto & D-Series.pdf Download PSB #322 from whtmanuals8 117KB pdf 2 pages A List of the General Product Service Bulletins.pdf First file in each Group. These Product Service Bulletins are too general in nature to include with all the models. All the PSB's are posted in the Files of whtmanuals8 129KB pdf 7 pages ________________________________________________________________________________ Attachments and Accessories List Model/Part Number Description Comments 5-0900 60" Rear Mount Mower No Longer Available. 5-1220 48" Mower (Side Discharge) Current Model Available: Order 15-48SC03/78360 w/109091 (No Longer Available.) - see Dealer-only Service Bulletin #352. Original Model Supersedes To: 5-1221 6-1131 54" Dozer Blade No Longer Available. Original Model Supersedes To: 6-1141 6-7451 48" Snow Thrower No Longer Available. Original Model Supersedes To: 6-7452 7-1121 50" Grader Blade No Longer Available. Original Model Supersedes To: 7-1122 7-1241 38" Tiller (Requires 8-5421 & 8-3221 No Longer Available. Original Model Supersedes To: 7-1261 7-2111 Utility Wagon No Longer Available. Original Model Supersedes To: 7-2112 7-2211 Dump Trailer No Longer Available. Original Model Supersedes To: 7-2212 7-2311 32" Lawn Roller No Longer Available. Original Model Supersedes To: 7-2312 7-2411 36" Aerator No Longer Available. Original Model Supersedes To: 7-2412 7-2512 31" Lawn Sweeper No Longer Available. Original Model Supersedes To: 7-2513 7-2521 38" Lawn Sweeper No Longer Available. Original Model Supersedes To: 7-2522 8-1001 Tiller Tine ExtensionKit (for use w/7-1241) Used with 12" Rear Wheels. No Longer Available. 8-1141 Rear Wheel Weights Used with 15" Rear Wheels. No Longer Available. 8-1211 Wheel Weight (front) Set Current Model Available: 81214 Original Model Supersedes To: 8-1212 8-1900 Turning Brake Kit No Longer Available. Original Model Supersedes To: 8-1903 8-2631 Tire Chains (Pair) Used with 15" Turf Saver Tires Only. No Longer Available. 8-2821 Agricutural Tire Assy. 8.50 x 15 (6 bolt hub) No Longer Available. Original Model Supersedes To: 8-2901 8-2831 Wide Extra Traction Terra Tire Assy. 12.00 x 12 (6 bolt hub) No Longer Available. Original Model Supersedes To: 8-2902 8-3221 Rear P.T.O. Kit No Longer Available. Original Model Supersedes To: 8-3222 8-5421 3-Point Hitch Kit No Longer Available. Original Model Supersedes To: 8-5422

Sounds like the Bendix on your starter is stuck in the "out" position. Try loosening the bolts that hold the starter onto the engine and see if it returns to it's home position. At that time, you should be able to rotate the engine by hand. If so, tighten the starter bolts again and try to start it in the normal way.

I like the way you think ! I agree. Mike.......

Well, I just changed 3 axle seals. 2 on a c-141, and the last (and worst) on a 310-8 (took me 3 days, a gear arm puller, a sawzall and 16 blades), and had keyway issues in the axle on my Charger 12 a few years ago. As far as the seals go, I bought Toro seals from the dealer. They were like 6 or 7 dollars, and all my tractors have 1 1/8 axles. I'm unsure what the part numbers are. My 310 originally had 1 inch axles, but ended up having the transmission taken to a machine shop and the dealer put in 1 1/8 axles back in the mid 90's. So it's 2013 and I just now replaced one of the seals. And there have been at LEAST 1,000 hours on those seals. Now to your key slot, I believe on my Charger 12 we had put a slightly larger key in it and that solved the problem with it, however, my dealer said that a leaky axle seal can loosen up the set screws and key and you can figure out from that I'm sure that when that gets loose, it wears the keyway and hub. Depending on how bad the key slot is worn, a new key, hub (or a good used hub), set screws and jam nuts. Now if your key slot is worn really bad, I believe a good machine shop could put in a new keyway in the axle, and if you end up going this route, have a square keyway put in, My 310 has those. Woodruff keys just plain stink. So, to sum it all up, I'd get the Toro seal (you either have 1 inch or 1 1/8 axles, on the 175 I would say probably 1 1/8 for sure.) You're going to have to tear the hub off, if the keyway in the hub isn't worn, you could re-use the hub, but I'd replace with a good used one or a new one (about 80 bucks for new). So replace the key, the hub, set screws and jam nuts and seal. Should get you back up and running. Good luck, hope this helps!

hang it on the wall as a peice of art, and find an old one to mow with!

Don't really have any other nice pics of just the tractor, so I guess this will have to do. Here is my 1961 401 during a local Memorial Day parade.

Good topic, wait, great topic! I know mine think I have lost my senses. The neighborhood I live in really has little meed for a garden tractor. The lawns are all about a 1/2 acer or less. Most people pay someone to cut their lawns. But me, because I was raised on a farm, I understand the value in the phrase "size does matter". My neighbors on either side of me no longer gwak since I started to mow all our lawns at once. They sit on their porch sip some tea and watch while it takes a whole 40 minites to mow about an acre of grass. I petsonally think the whole neighborhood are the one's who have lost it all. All sense of pride in doing something right the first time. Hard work never hurt anyone, and hey, if thry think the work is to hard, chancrs are, i habe a power tool or something that attaches the xi that makes the work much easier. So I'll keep my garage full of "conversation pieces".

Yep they sure do.... hard for them to understand the illness of having 15 plus garden tractors

My neighbor tells her children who then tell me that she is gonna call the cops on me she thinks my C-160 is too loud and I shouldn't be using it. Lol so I now make sure at 9 am sharp on Sundays I fire it up and cut my lawn twice!

I was just thinking the same thing. a magnetic drain plug! The old Kohlers I have will be around after I'm gone. They are serviced! i guess being retired, a lot of spare time without a lot to do. I share my free time with the Herd.

Like you stated, probably not worth the effort or risk of developing external oil leaks where the quart or two of oil could be quickly lost before a problem is noticed. Best defense is to just use a heavy duty 30W detergent oil, and change it frequently, like every 10-15 hours. -Mark-

Well, since I first replied to this thread back in August of 2008 the herd has grown from one tractor to four, with three working mower decks, two mid-mount grader blades, and a couple of trailers. A lot of people have houses that cover more square footage than my tiny lot at home, but I still have a lot of fun. I live close to an Ivy League college and the upper crust driving by in their Beemers or tree-hugger-mobiles do give me some awfully strange looks when I have all four tractors parked on a lawn the size of a proverbial postage stamp. I chuckle, for what they don't know is that I have an "arrangement" with a real estate developer friend (decent, honest guy) who has a very large lot just down the street from me. I keep it mowed in the summer in return for storage space in his barn and free use of a beautiful lakefront house in northern New Hampshire. So if anyone thinks I'm weird, I just remember that opinions are like rectal openings - everybody's got one! all the way to the lake! Duff

Drive your Horse to that church and keep going up the steps and right inside!

Challenger, From my understanding the D-250 had nothing Wheel Horse on it other than the color and name. All South Bend did was take the Guttbrod 2500 paint it red and label it the Wheel Horse D-250. Thats why there are a completely seperate set of attachments. They are completely propietary to the D-250 and wont work on the rest of the D series.

......and here's one of the best ones yet :