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Hi from the flatlands of Missouri...I'm Frank (member #7) and a 1942 model!...been retired for 8 years...spent 30 years in the mfg industry ....have one daughter and triplet grandsons....spend alot of time on the family farm "tinkerin'" with some faded red stuff when I have time. Got to attend the big show in PA...not once but twice and got to meet alot of you guys...was lucky enough to meet and shake hands with Mr Pond at BOTH shows....will probably cherish the late nite "WH Cruze" at the PA show the most, thanks to Eldon for loaning me a WH to ride!!! When I run out of stuff to do, I tinker with street rods, (38' Ford bowtie powered), fly RC planes, stained glass, family tree stuff, fish (bign's). follow the triplets in baseball, farm a bit, (did I forget "tinker" w/WH's?)..spend money on wine and women and waste the rest....it's been a fun ride and I'm still enjoying it....stop by the old Horse Barn some time and say "HI"

I'm Jerry, 67 yrs. old. Spent 2 yrs. in army 65 to 67. Retired in 2002 after 35 yrs. as machinist ( mostly hydraulic press ). Have been married for 45 yrs. have one daughter 44 and one grand daughter 19 in college. I like Bass fishing when i'm not fooling around with WH tractors. I have a neighbor that is retired also and we are always working on some project. I have degenerative disc disease in my lower back so i have to limit my activities. Still learning to use this computer, my grand daughter try's her best to teach me but it just doesn't come easy for me. I really like being a Red Square member and I have received a lot of help from other members with projects. Thanks for all the help guys.

Value is always circumstantial at best. First, everyone who's uninformed in vintage garden tractors gets their valuation knowledge from ebay. They pay no attention to the rarity of a tractor, location, true condition, etc..... They have no basis of understanding on the collector market in a given area. They just latch on to the highest value they see and say that must be what it's worth, also ignoring the most relevant piece of information... whether or not it actually sells at that price. But when you come down to it, I also think unless a tractor has been purchased at a low-ball price strictly for resale, its hard to sell a refurbished or restored tractor for anything close to what's been put into it for cost, let alone at a profit. You have to remember, we're talking about 20, 30, 40 even 50+ year old TOOLS. Tools that have been used, abused and often left for dead. Just because it's got wheels doesn't make it comparable to a collectible auto. Think of it more like a collectible chicken coop shovel. It's collector value is only relevant to a narrow collector market. For the majority of buyers looking for an old garden tractor, they're looking for a tool to play with in their yard, that's in less-than-abused shape, that they can pick up for a few to several hundred dollars. If they know the value and reputation of Wheel Horse, they're probably the ones looking in the $1k-1500 range for later models and higher HP, but also could be the one's who don't want to spend that $1k-1500 on a big box store mower when they know an old garden tractor and deck for $300 will probably last longer. It takes all kinds to make the world go around. Just enjoy your seat on the carousel. :thumbs:

yep.... I agree. 99.9% informative and helpful... and one of these. Congrats TT!

Dave here. Turning 58 in April. Retiring this Friday after 25 years with my last employer. Have spent my last 40 years working for municipal parks and recreation agencies. Main responsibilities involved parks, grounds and building maintenance. I have lots of hobbies besides my Wheel Horse's. RV camping, UTV off roading, fishing, landscape and gardening, helping my wife with her hobbies. We've been married for 35 years, two boys, 34 and 27. 27 year old is married. no grandchildren yet. One springer spaniel. This is one great group of guys and gals and I've enjoyed meeting and corresponding with many of you. I appreciate everyones help over the years and hope to meet more of you. Next?

Value also depends on how many times you use the word "RARE" in the description. Here's a constant: They're never worth less than scrap price. :hide:

Well, I'm Mike. I'm a 48 year old Kiwi that somehow ended up living in NE Ohio. Been married for 13 years now, and I have an 8 year old daughter. I started out as an automotive mechanic and jumped around the various specialties for a few years. I decided I wanted to travel the world and work on racing cars, did a couple of years in Europe before coming to the US for a year or two. I ended up meeting my wife and I'm still here. Lots of years working on opened wheeled racing cars, competed (in the pits) at the Indianpolis 500 5 times. Eventually I got tired of suitcases, airports and hotel rooms and am quite happy living the quiet life now. Currently I work for a company that restores Rolls Royce Silver Ghosts (anything up to about 1928). Everything from general service work to chassis up restoration, from weekend drivers to Pebble Beach concourse cars. My 8 year old keeps me busy, I dont play with my tractors as much as I would like, and I try to keep my 170 year old farmhouse from falling down around me.

My name is Mike, I will be 35 in April. Been married for 12 years with two sons ages 4 & 7. Started working on a farm when in high school. My real interest was semi trucks. Started working in a garage for a trucking company my junior year. Went to diesel college & then decided that I wanted to drive them. Got my CDL & hit the road for 5 years. Then went back to working on them & moved up. I still work on them, but do service & parts most of the time. Of course I like using & working on my 's . I was in 4H for 11 years & now I have been volunteering for 4H for 12 years. It is a really good program for kids. In the summer I attend alot of county fairs along with truck & tractor pulls. Not into sports, just a gear head.

Heres some up dated pictures I do have the stock rear wheels and tires just looks better this way.

Chas, Chuck or Charlie here, I answer to all of them. I'm 54 & married for 7 years with 4 dogs. I'm from south central, PA... 6-7 miles from the BIG SHOW, strange I've never attended, seems that bad things pop up around that time of year for me or my wife & couldn't make it. Have been a diesel mechanic 20 + years & now a truck maintenance manager for a recycling company here in town, I wonder if all that diesel smoke might explain my twisted sense of humor Have been a member here for a few years just never transferred my info from the old site. I stumbled on my Raider 10 by accident when I was looking for a tractor with a FEL, my neighbor told me of a JD with one , only thing was,it turned out to be the Raider with a snow blower on it & it was love at 1st sight In my free time, big time bass fisherman, I do know & play golf along with hunting, all tho my knees don't like carrying my fat azz around. And lastly.... a RAVENS FAN Chas :flags-usa:

I'm Jim. I'm 61 years old and graduated from high school in 1970. I married my high school sweetheart later that year and we had a son and two beautiful daughters together. She however, stopped being a sweetheart in 1977. I then met my current wife Karen and we married in 1979 and have a beautiful daughter together. Karen is my strength. We bought a B60 in 1983 with a plow and deck. It was and still is a great machine, cutting the grass here to this day. I now have three more Horses in the corral to use and enjoy. I have done three refurb's and a fourth will hopefully be done this summer. I worked in a box factory for 23 years, then went into business as an electrical contractor. I closed the business in 2000 and went to work as a machinist. I am currently running CNC lathes in a local machine shop. I also spent 10 years as a volunteer fireman and was an EMT with the fire dept. rescue squad. And, by the grace of God, I am a cancer survivor. :)

I AM ONE OF THE OLDEST ON HERE. (84) MARRIED FOR 62 YEARS, TWO DAUGHTERS, 7 GRAND CHILDREN. SPENT FROM 1951 TO 1953 IN U.S.ARMY. SOLD WHEEL HORSES BACK IN THE 50 AND 60'S IN GREENWICN, CT. AND HAVE HAD MANY SINCE THEN. I NOW HAVE 5. I GO TO MANY SHOWS. I WAS IN CHARGE OF TOOL ROOMS FOR MANY YEARS. I BECAME A TOOL AND DIE MAKER IN 1953. I ALSO WAS A CAPT. ON BOATS FROM 35 FT. TO 72 FEET. I LIVED ON AN ISLAND AND WENT TO SCHOOL BY BOAT. I AM A HAM RADIO OPERATOR. (W1RGW) I HAVE BEEN RETIRED SINCE 1994.

Ok, I'll go. I am Karl, 49 years old with 3 kids 15, 13, and 11 (soon to be 12). I am a computer scientist by trade, but enjoy the simpler things in life far more. I enjoy everything automotive and mechanical. Aside from the horses, I have an eclectic collection of Lionel trains most of which are very rare. I enjoy camping, well technically RV'ing in our 35' 5th wheel. I do enjoy getting outdoors but in the warmer weather and swimming, clearing the brush from my 2.5 acres and playing with the kids and dog. I consider myself extremely handy and have no issues tackling anything from soldering SMD's on a circuit board, repairing the household appliances, to getting deep and dirty into my 6.0l Diesel. A considerable amount of spare time is keeping RedSquare up and running, testing new versions of software, keeping things cleaned up so it runs smooth. For me the community aspect of this forum over shadows the technical aspects and I really enjoy everyone's company. I am always grateful for the generousity and friendship of people that I may never shake hands with, it constantly amazes me.

I did do something like that about 6 or 7 years ago but not with a Wheel Horse( just couldn't do it to a good Horse) I used two Craftsman frames bolted together, a fabricated dump bed ( made from a gravity grain trailer) and a plywood cab. Like I said this wasn't a Wheel Horse but it did look cool.

I was thinking that we could get to know each other better if we knew more info about folks here. And, it may wind up helping us out if we know that someone has the same hobby. I suppose I should start since it's my idea. My name is Russell. 33 years old. I've been in the army reserves for 9 years. I am going to college to get a degree in alternative energy, specifically solar power. Married with four stepkids from my wife's first marriage. My hobbies other than wheel horses include trying to be a small time farmer, fishing, hunting, knife collecting, and gardening. Anyone.else?

Shes gone now, wheelhorse yard ornaments look better than flower gardens anytime.

Well TT, this is Mama Puddlejumper....once again, Mitch has made me read something else on this dadgum forum....but for once, it was worth the read.....Congrats on the 10K mark, but I'm sure with my husband....you will reach that 20K in no time....thanks a lot , I mean really, do you really have to answer all of his questions????? Maybe if you didn't, I wouldn't have a dadgum wheelhorse graveyard in my garden lot!!! :no:

I only have 1 but it is a little red tractor with a BIG! BIG! Heart The round hoods are my favorite.

I am partial to the 1976/77 B/C series.

I enjoy my tractors. I got show and workers. Friends have wanted workers so I have put "packages" together at different times and sold them, I guess I may have come out ahead but wasn't out to make money on them. Also got some stuff on CL for sale. Won't give stuff away but if a guy makes the effort to come look at the item I usually about let him have it for nothing. I enjoy making my tractors as perfect or close to original as I reasonably can. It does cost sometimes other times it just takes some effort. I don't expect to ever cash in on my efforts just do it cause they bring me pleasure mostly through restoration and use. Value? Never paid over $450.00 for anything wheel horse related. But I have walked away from sellers who wanted $1500.00+ for spray bomb specials or "liquid restorations" I subscribe to a wise quote; " a fool and his money are soon parted"

What are my 2 tractors worth? Not much to anyone but me, But - My C85 and C-105 are not very pretty, they are original and in badly need of a paint job. The paint has flaked off in spots, rusted through the paint in other areas. I've thought many times of re-finishing them, but hesitated because the hoods on these also make good work benches! I'm alway setting stuff on them and if I painted them I wouldn't do that. So my units are not eye pleasing, but i feel that beauty is only skin deep, it's what's under all the cosmetics that really count. I'd stack either of my tractors against any comporable (except there isn't any, anymore) new tractor, and that means a lot to me! Not many 8hp tractors can do things like this!

Let me know if this will work and I will get it listed and send link.

I have been refurbishing Wheel Horses for a while now and been watching what others are selling theirs for. I do not make show pieces I make working tractors, The prices are all over the place and depends where you are. The thing that gets me is what some people will pay for a tractor that is rusty and filthy, say $200 to $400. Then at the same time they won't pay a decent price $500 or more for one that has been thoroughly cleaned and repaired with new, oil, wiring repaired, paint and decals that runs good . If there wasn't such a hassle with haggling and shipping the parts I would make much more out of one parting it out. But I just hate to see these masterpieces parted out. I guess when you get down to it restoring or refurbishing is part of the addiction. There is another reason people spend way too much for a big store tractor, they can put it on their card. The thing they don't think about is what happens when it breaks. Now I guess I'm getting off the subject here. I have a guy coming to pick up a C-120 this morning so people are starting to buy this year. That's three so far this year. :handgestures-thumbupright:

What I have found curious is if you are selling a tractor that you and the buyer agree is worth $200, and you put $100 worth of new tires on the same tractor while the buyer is "thinking it over", the buyer now has the opinion that $300 is too much for that very same tractor. No argument the tires are not what he likes, or if they were needed and he would have put the same set on day one after he bought it, just $300 is now too much. Strange creatures these humans.

Mike, to me a used (but in great shape) Wheel Horse has more value than any brand new box store POS. As far as monitary worth is concerned, I'm sure we will never get rich selling off our collections because it seems (at least here where I live) like most guys could not care less about working on their own property. They had rather pay a landscaper to make things look nice, and then contract with a mowing company to cut the grass, weedeat, and blow everything clean with a backpack blower. The guys that do mow their own lawn either have a zero turn or a box store pos. These same guys don't care anything about having a tiller or blade or plow or anything else connected to their lawn mower. If there is a good side to this, it is that Wheel Horses and the other big name classic LAGTs will always be financially within reach for us. I'll take that and feel good about it, and at the same time feel sorry for the guys who would rather spend their productive time on facebook while someone else is taking care of their property.

It depends on the model and condition, one persons fixed up nice is still a beater to another, but something say round hood not a hard to find model, in good shape sell for $600-800 a really nice one a bit more, up to about $1000 newer user tractors say 90's up bring more but are bought to be used not toys, I have a few good usable C series tractors here I can't get $300 out of, slowly parting them out because they are worth more in parts, because no one wants to pay for anything.

You know there are three dollar amounts that factor into the value of an individual tractor 1. What you are willing to pay 2. what they are asking for and 3. The price both of you can agree on. Unfortunately if you want it more than he wants to sell it the agreed price is gonna be closer to the sellers initial price right?

Terry here. I was "WH1056" when I joined RedSquare. There seemed to be a rather heavy concentration of members named Terry back then. To tell us apart, some members referred to me as "Tricycle Terry". (because of my narrow-front Charger) That nickname was shortened to "TT" and I eventually had Karl change my user name so it was official - and quicker to log in. I live in central PA with my wife of over 6 years, and two dogs. I have one 19 year old son from a previous marriage. He is also a member here on the forum. I am employed as the head equipment technician at a private country club / 27 hole golf course and am about to start my fifth season there. Prior to February 2008, you could normally find me behind the wheel of a Mack. I can hold my own in general conversation, but don't bother asking me about sports of any kind - especially golf. In addition to the enjoyment of owning and using a few Wheel Horse tractors, I dabble in metal fabrication and welding, drawing, playing guitar badly, and posting on internet forums. :D

Batting 13th is Mike. I'm going to be 54 in a few weeks. Married to a gal for 24 years and finally have driven her nuts enough she's also sending me to the show in June. I started out with wheel horse in 1964 and never looked back. Went to college for auto mechanics but got tired of flat rate and no work. Self-taught myself HVAC and have worked at a local hospital for 8 plus years the last five as a mechanic III. I get to work on beds, boilers, kitchen eq. pneumatic tube systems and even the MORGUE COOLER!! :) I have 2 dogs 2 cats, a son in grad school. I collect die-cast tractors, Tonka's and have about 20 beanie baby Bongo monkeys. They are all different and have their own names. Frieda and Pearl are my favorites. I love to bust balls and everyone thinks I'm nuts.. Own 2 Horses and a Power King :hide:

Hello friends.....My name is Ken and I am 58 (almost) years old. I have been collecting WH's for about 4-5 years now. I really enjoy the posts, questions & answers I read on Red Square. I have 8 WH tractors (7 are operational) and several front push plows and a couple of other wonderful WH implements, including an ARK 550 FEL. I married a great gal 18 years ago and we have really have a blast. She is the one that made the reservations for the "Big Show" in June for my Christmas present! I have a daughter (33 yrs old), and a son (29 yrs old) and a step-daughter (27 yrs old). My son & step-daughter share the same birth-date, and NO it was not a good thing sharing birthday parties as they were growing up. I retired from our local Volunteer Fire Department after 31 years. I have several Master Fire Fighter credentials as well as being a medical 1st Responder. From 1973 to 1990 I was the municipal utilities superintendant for a small community of 700 people. I had municipal water & waste water licenses, but after I left the job they expired. In 1996 I started working for an automobile drive-train remanufacture as a waste water treatment operator, so I had to study and pass a state exam for industrial waste water licenses. I have been exposed to many things over the years, and I know a little about a lot of things....some just enough to be dangerous!

I'm Denny, I'm 58 years young, been married to my bride for 31 years. We have 3 daughters and our first grandchild due in July. I'm an operator for a fertilizer and chemical company, most of my spare time I spend taking care of our local cemeteries and tinkering with my tractors as well as hanging out here. My wife's a retired elementary school p.e. teacher, we also enjoy seeing this great country of ours. I don't get a chance to go to a lot of shows but I really enjoy it when I do, most of what I know about these tractors I've learned here and I've also got to meet some great people, all because I drug that first tractor home to keep it from going to the scrap yard.... Sure wish I could get to that little show in Pennsylvania you guys are always talking about.

I'm Bob. I'm 62. I live in central Maryland with my wife of almost 41 years, and 3 cats. I have a son & daughter-in-law with two boys, ages 9 and 3. I also have a daughter & son-in-law with two boys ages 4 and 18 months. I was a radioman in the Coast Guard from 1968 to 1972. Worked for 34 years in the office equipment industry, owning my own copier & printer sales and service company for 15 years. Sold the business in 2006 and am currently a semi-retired home improvement contractor (handyman). My hobbies include collecting antique cameras, and I am an accomplished cabinet maker and antique furniture restorer. My fascination with Wheel Horse tractor began in 1993 when I purchased my first, a 1977 B-100. I now have a collection of five. My spare time is consumed with the 4 grandsons, and I am always tinkering with a horse to show at the annual Wheel Horse show. Because I have a lot of free time between jobs, I spend a good deal of it here on RedSquare. When the wife and I find the time, we like to travel to the National Parks and take in the beauty that is these great United States.

Might as well put a Navy guy in here. ..1970 to 1974. Retired from the phone company as a lineman and a splicer..35 years. I have enjoyed going to the tractor shows for the last 4 years and meeting the members there...they are a fantastic group. When I first got on this site, all I had was questions...now I have been able to contribute by helping members rebuild their transmissions...the early 3 piece and the 3 and 4 speed uni-drives. This is a great group, and it has been my pleasure to be able to give something back. I have 4 horses and I really look forward to snow to be able to use them...I am not so much into mowing grass. I love fishing, home wine making, watching the sun go from one end to the other, and hanging out here. It keeps me young. :happy-jumpeveryone:

Gerald go by Gerry,66, two children, two grandchildren, 1 wife, ha we're still newly weds at 3 yrs, she 3 children, 4 grandchildren, two great grandchildren.USAF 66-70 electronics technician on new modle B-52 (E,F,G.H), released Barksdale AFB and never got back to Oklahoma with my F/M/S/GM and HS friends. Produced news papers after AF and got a chace to go to SCBT lineman school for a job. Became a lineman, installer, installation supervisor, repair supervisor, frame supervisor, technical supervisor and lastly a restoration supervisor. Retired in 1995 from South Central Bell, went to emt and fire fighter school, worked as medic on river boat as emt and GM construction after becoming paramedic. Volunteer rural fire department but have slowed activity 50% lately. Got my first and only WH (so far) in 1982, it sat unused 13 yrs and you can imagine the neglectful damage and I found this wonderful place. Gave a rear rider (A111 I think) away. Collect money, guns, slot machines, and miriad of other "stuff". Used to repair lawn mower engines till people ran me crazy wanting it done yesterday. Got rid of 4 16' ft trailer loads of riders, pushers and engines. One guy I gave a transaxel and frame (red), maybe bolens as had red wheels, wouldn't even let me come look at his "stuff"! He's redoin' some/a WH. Enough of that, so far I've personally met one fine memberin Tx., Jim, and had the pleasure of sharing parts/sold to several of ya'll. Haven't run in to a group of better folks

My name is Stephen J & I'm a....uh wait. I'm 44, have an 18 year old stepson, an awesome wife, great inlaws & 5 dogs. I've worked for a local construction company now since 95. Most of those years on an asphalt crew as a "roller" operator...but now I've switched to Horizontal Directional Drilling. Winter they shut down & I get caught up with friends, shop projects & browsin the interwebs. Besides my Wheel Horse's I enjoy firearms (responsibly), ATV's, old trucks, vintage tractors.

Not a Bad Idea.. I'm Mike 43yrs old 3 kids 16 year old daughter and 2 boys 13 and 9..Got out of the U.S Marines in 1993 was Welder and Heavy equipment operator..Been in Contruction and a Certified welder since..My hobbies are my tractors and rebuilding the 2-piece 4 and 8 speed trannys. I also collect NHRA and Sprint-Latemodel race car diecast...I also like fishing and hunting and in the summer a good campfire good friends and a couple of cold ones...Love to attend the many swap meets and shows in the area. And me and my Boys try to attend as many dirt track races as possible.. :handgestures-thumbupright:

I had to let everyone know about my success with Seafoam today. I had picked up a C-101 last week that would not start...seemed to not be getting fuel so we replaced the fuel pump and fuel lines...then it still wasn't starting. We assumed it had to be the carb so after priming the carb with a bottle of fuel it seemed to slowly run a little longer by itself with the choke all the way up. After adjusting the screws on the carb, we got the engine running half decent without having to squirt fuel into the throat of the carb. Sadly,we couldn't bring the choke down at all without the engine shutting off. So I grabbed my can of Seafoam spray and sprayed deep into the carb until it choked off the engine. The directions say it to let it "hot soak" for 5 minutes and then start her up. I did this twice and was able to remove the choke! I was suprised as I could actually hear some of the "gunk" go through the carb when I restarted the engine! Highly recommended: I also add 1 oz per gallon of the straight liquid to my gas as well. My C-101 happy in the stable! Has anyone else ever used Seafoam?

Hey guys, Took a couple tractors out in the snow today. Thought you guys might enjoy seeing the pictures. ~Jake

Does anyone know of a replacement blade maker for this scraper blade?

Kids and adults allowed around my C-121 with the stack are educated not to touch it, as it may be hot. Education is the best prevention, P'Chop will remind them if I'm out of sight.

Yap yap yap... Congratulations Terry! and Thank you!

come on spring!!!!

A fan of the mid to late 60's...... Square hoods..... My 1055 is probably my favorite!!

I'm always keepin' an open eye for a deal. Got to be something I want. The 520-8 recent purchase was a Pop-Pop 'n Grandsons mornin' outing. Dollar value? Sell one of my Stallions? Not going to happen. I did give a few away to sons and now the grandsons are going to need 's in a few years. Both boys have a lot "shop time" with the Horses. Dollar value? I've had plenty of time spent with my sons and daughters joking, "Another Horse Dad?" They're always smilin'. Dollar value? Guess it's a family thing, ! My two grandsons love their "shop time" with the Stallions. Dollar value? This fascination (WHA) with the Breed started 'bout 40 years ago. A friend stopped by my new house, 'bout two acres. I had just purchased a Craftsman rider. Friend said, "What's that?" He left and returned with a round hood, 3-foot RD deck. A house warming gift. I did sell the Craftsman. "What's it worth?" Y'all tell me.

I just picked up this older restored Wheelhorse. I am not quite sure what I have. I am charging up the battery and will change out the old fuel before firing it up. It came with the snowblower as shown as well as a plow and square mower deck. Tractor Serial number is 57720 Kohler Engine Model J161 S? Serial #515973 Spec #28522E Any help is appreciated. Brian Serfass Easton PA

:text-coolphotos: Looks like you have been getting some seat time.

I'm in agreement with Bob here. Properly torqued the nuts should not come loose. But because I am paranoid, I use a dab of Blue Loctite to help me sleep at night.

Question...If those chain were on an Allis Chalmers garden tractor...would it be "Allis in Chains"??? Those are really neat...like the diamond pattern Lars.

Let me know which lake you push them into. I'm a scuba diver and an electrician. Will be glad to salvage them!!!

When I saw this post I was hoping for some pictures but since I don't see any----- Here you go! These are 33x12.5x15's