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Might as well put a Navy guy in here. ..1970 to 1974. Retired from the phone company as a lineman and a splicer..35 years. I have enjoyed going to the tractor shows for the last 4 years and meeting the members there...they are a fantastic group. When I first got on this site, all I had was questions...now I have been able to contribute by helping members rebuild their transmissions...the early 3 piece and the 3 and 4 speed uni-drives. This is a great group, and it has been my pleasure to be able to give something back. I have 4 horses and I really look forward to snow to be able to use them...I am not so much into mowing grass. I love fishing, home wine making, watching the sun go from one end to the other, and hanging out here. It keeps me young. :happy-jumpeveryone:

I borrowed this information from Lane Ranger ..... Lane has started a mini campaign to get this company to start manufacturing the 1533 bearing again..... This is the bearing company that has made the #1533 bearing for the Toro and Wheel Horse Companies. The #1533 (Toro and Wheel horse Part Number) bearing is no longer being made even though this part is integral to over 246 models of Wheel Horse garden tractors that are still operating -some over 50 years old or more! Please LIKE this company on Facebook and encourage them to starting remaking the 1533 bearing for lots of potential customers! Pacamor Kubar Bearings (PKB) PACAMOR KUBAR BEARINGS (PKB) Miniature, Precision, and Instrument Ball Bearings are manufactured to the highest degree of quality and workmanship. PACAMOR KUBAR BEARINGS (PKB) manufactures for industries such as aerospace, aircraft instrument, medical and dental instruments, computers, flow meters,... Here is there Contact us page Send them a mesage http://www.pacamor.com/contact/index.php If your on facebook like them here and comment on their wall .... I did lets get these babies produced again http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pacamor-Kubar-Bearings-PKB/163112190312

I was thinking that we could get to know each other better if we knew more info about folks here. And, it may wind up helping us out if we know that someone has the same hobby. I suppose I should start since it's my idea. My name is Russell. 33 years old. I've been in the army reserves for 9 years. I am going to college to get a degree in alternative energy, specifically solar power. Married with four stepkids from my wife's first marriage. My hobbies other than wheel horses include trying to be a small time farmer, fishing, hunting, knife collecting, and gardening. Anyone.else?

A great friend of mine that only lives a couple miles away from dad's barn decided to strike up a deal with me this past week. I have had my eye on this machine since the day he picked it up, tore it down, refurbished it, etc.... He decided it was time to let go of a tractor or two and asked if I was still interested. Needless to say, I was stunned! We struck up a deal and I was able to pick it up yesterday afternoon after the chilly get together we had in Plymouth, IN. Had to help dad today move some things around in the barn and unload the enclosed trailer. Took the battery out of this little guy and rolled it out for a quick photo before it was tucked in for a long winters nap. My bucket list of tractors is getting pretty small and I am very thankful that this one is now part of the herd.

i would like these available too. went and liked lane's post on the facebook page. c'mon every one, there maybe a time in the future where you need one of these bearings, wouldnt it be good to be able to get them new? i hope that if they are made available, they would be 'reasonably' priced......

Lane and Dw753, as you know the WH #1533 bearing is the one thing that keeps us from saving these transmissions for another 60+ years or more. Maybe, if we get a ton of responses in this thread, we can forward the link to them...or maybe forward some of the past links to them. Might be easier then doing a swamp them in e-mails. If you guys are communicating with the company, maybe we could do an official Red Square response...would have to talk to Karl about that...just some ideas. :)

WOW Scott. I would not hide it in the barn...thinking a coffee table in the family room or maybe sitting next to the puter in the man cave. :)

Gerald go by Gerry,66, two children, two grandchildren, 1 wife, ha we're still newly weds at 3 yrs, she 3 children, 4 grandchildren, two great grandchildren.USAF 66-70 electronics technician on new modle B-52 (E,F,G.H), released Barksdale AFB and never got back to Oklahoma with my F/M/S/GM and HS friends. Produced news papers after AF and got a chace to go to SCBT lineman school for a job. Became a lineman, installer, installation supervisor, repair supervisor, frame supervisor, technical supervisor and lastly a restoration supervisor. Retired in 1995 from South Central Bell, went to emt and fire fighter school, worked as medic on river boat as emt and GM construction after becoming paramedic. Volunteer rural fire department but have slowed activity 50% lately. Got my first and only WH (so far) in 1982, it sat unused 13 yrs and you can imagine the neglectful damage and I found this wonderful place. Gave a rear rider (A111 I think) away. Collect money, guns, slot machines, and miriad of other "stuff". Used to repair lawn mower engines till people ran me crazy wanting it done yesterday. Got rid of 4 16' ft trailer loads of riders, pushers and engines. One guy I gave a transaxel and frame (red), maybe bolens as had red wheels, wouldn't even let me come look at his "stuff"! He's redoin' some/a WH. Enough of that, so far I've personally met one fine memberin Tx., Jim, and had the pleasure of sharing parts/sold to several of ya'll. Haven't run in to a group of better folks

Not a Bad Idea.. I'm Mike 43yrs old 3 kids 16 year old daughter and 2 boys 13 and 9..Got out of the U.S Marines in 1993 was Welder and Heavy equipment operator..Been in Contruction and a Certified welder since..My hobbies are my tractors and rebuilding the 2-piece 4 and 8 speed trannys. I also collect NHRA and Sprint-Latemodel race car diecast...I also like fishing and hunting and in the summer a good campfire good friends and a couple of cold ones...Love to attend the many swap meets and shows in the area. And me and my Boys try to attend as many dirt track races as possible.. :handgestures-thumbupright:

Thanks everyone for a quick lesson on these tractors. It helped very much when buying this one. So here it is. Looks to be a really good original. No paint underneath this paint. No decals appear to have been taped off. I think it does have the lauson engine on it still. Have not had it running yet. I will be needing to find the rest of the air cleaner and a muffler shield? Will probably put the smaller wheels back on the rear and leave this one as it is for awhile. Took a long time to get it looking like this.

I'm Bob. I'm 62. I live in central Maryland with my wife of almost 41 years, and 3 cats. I have a son & daughter-in-law with two boys, ages 9 and 3. I also have a daughter & son-in-law with two boys ages 4 and 18 months. I was a radioman in the Coast Guard from 1968 to 1972. Worked for 34 years in the office equipment industry, owning my own copier & printer sales and service company for 15 years. Sold the business in 2006 and am currently a semi-retired home improvement contractor (handyman). My hobbies include collecting antique cameras, and I am an accomplished cabinet maker and antique furniture restorer. My fascination with Wheel Horse tractor began in 1993 when I purchased my first, a 1977 B-100. I now have a collection of five. My spare time is consumed with the 4 grandsons, and I am always tinkering with a horse to show at the annual Wheel Horse show. Because I have a lot of free time between jobs, I spend a good deal of it here on RedSquare. When the wife and I find the time, we like to travel to the National Parks and take in the beauty that is these great United States.

I did do something like that about 6 or 7 years ago but not with a Wheel Horse( just couldn't do it to a good Horse) I used two Craftsman frames bolted together, a fabricated dump bed ( made from a gravity grain trailer) and a plywood cab. Like I said this wasn't a Wheel Horse but it did look cool.

I'll jump in! I'm Mike, 46 years old, live in Connecticut, married just over twenty years with two kids, one dog and one cat. My son is 17 and has been to every WH show I've been to (approx 7) and a 14 year old daughter who would never go to a tractor show . I was a licensed electrician for 24 years here in Ct. Did a career swap 2-1/2 years ago and I'm now working for a Navy Defence contractor ( Submarines not surface ships) as a project manager and travel all over the country for my job. Besides the WH problem I cant shake, I also like to fish (any state except Vermont...long story ), picked up a small bass boat last year. My family camps alot and we now leave our camper permanently on a campsite in Connecticut on a 528 acre lake. I love sitting by the fire on summer nights knockin a couple cold ones back! I ride my motorcycle when I can, nice to just get out and cruise with no real destination! I also seem to collect flashlights for some reason, have about 30 or so. A few older ones but mostly newer oddball stuff. Definitly cheaper and easier to store than tractors! A buddy of mine (whchris) started the Redsquare Wheel Horse Site back in 2006 when he was still in High School (thats right! High School!) and he e-mailed me and asked me to join up so he wouldn't be alone and maybe we could generate some interest in his fledgling site. Thats how I became member #2. My buddy of course is member #1 but we dont see him here anymore unfortunately . Mike......

New to me 416-8. Needs some TLC but should be fun for the boy to run once the 1000 little problems get fixed.

Steve this is what PKB just posted this afternoon after my original comments and encouragement to :LIKE" PKB bearings! Pacamor Kubar Bearings (PKB) also commented on their link.Pacamor Kubar Bearings (PKB) wrote: "Thank you for all the 1533 requests. I've sent an inquiry to our engineering team and will post the response. We LOVE that you are this passionate about PKB bearings!! )"Reply to this email to comment on this link.

My name is Stephen J & I'm a....uh wait. I'm 44, have an 18 year old stepson, an awesome wife, great inlaws & 5 dogs. I've worked for a local construction company now since 95. Most of those years on an asphalt crew as a "roller" operator...but now I've switched to Horizontal Directional Drilling. Winter they shut down & I get caught up with friends, shop projects & browsin the interwebs. Besides my Wheel Horse's I enjoy firearms (responsibly), ATV's, old trucks, vintage tractors.

My intent here is to show lots of pictures so if anyone is rebuilding one of these or some of the others...you can do it without fear and I am adding some very helpful information. I had a post that lead up to this that has some information in it also, and while it overlaps, I wanted to do the rebuild separate. This post is meant to be used with the manual...the pictures help explain better then the pictures in the manual. Now I want to share what I learned as I rebuild this...I realize that some have done this, but this was my first time (transmission virgin) and I know I am not the last one to do this. If I can help or make this easier, then I have given back a little from all the help I have received from this site. Here are a few shots of what this looked like whee I opened the trans. Notice the 1/4" ball bearings on some of the gears. Those are from the #1533 bearings. This is a shot showing gear placement in the left side of the case. Notice the bevel of the reverse gear (front right). The left side is the shallow side of the transmission halves. These are the parts of the differential..the 2 casings on the outside, the 2 axles, the differential bull gear, the 4 posts and the pinions that go on these, and the bolts and nuts that hold it all together. I can't get enough looks at the gears before I tear it apart...next 2 pictures are for future reference. I found a good assortment of 3/8 and 1/2 sockets that made fair to good arbors for pounding out and tapping in most of the bearings and seals. These are the bearings and seals you need to do the R&R. You can get all the stuff from Toro or the site that Jason gave in the related post. One note...the Toro#1303 seal is discontinued. This is called a cup seal, because it has a cup shape. I replaced it with a kind of match (SKF #7410) same dimensions but more like a regular oil seal...it will work. This place used to be Berry Bearings in Elgin...now it is "Motion Industries"...the web site MotionMRO.com...they can match up any bearing or seal. Excellent info. and prices were very good. Shot of the bearings and seals removed, cleaned and sanded. Used Valspar Restoration series...I like the red match with my 702 and I like the hardness of the paint. Showing bearings and seals installed...notice (arbors on right). Putting differential back together...show axle in place with bolts in place. Added pinion posts and in 2nd picture...added pinions (alternating one up and one down). Added Bull Gear Added other axle and case and bolted together. At this point, make sure you can rotate the axles...they should rotate in opposite directions. Placing input shaft and gear (one piece) and the reverse idler shaft. Installed the 2nd & high shift rail and fork. (one on the left). Also installed both ball bearings, spring and stop pin, and low & reverse shift rail. The 2 sliding gears were then placed...the grooves face each other and the smaller gear goes on the bottom. I had a pencil magnet that I used to hold the 2nd ball bearing, while I took an Allen wrench through the hole to hold the bearing out of the way while I placed the low and reverse shift rail. the picture also shows the reverse idler and brake shaft in place. Another view showing forks and gears. Showing reverse idler (bevel up...I hope) in front. Splined shaft installed through the shift fork sliding gears. The cluster gear is then installed( 2 wood-ruff keys here...one on each end). Also, the differential and axles are placed (note the nuts are facing up). different angle yet one more angle Put together..old 5 gal wood create works great as a work bench (all shafts fit through and keep work level). Used a hard rubber hammer to tap halves together. No leaks when I filled with 90wt gear oil...approx 1 1/2 qts. Checked shifting and started to put the 702 back together today. A final picture or a video tomorrow (hope). I want to thank Rickv1957 Fan, MikeRJ, Buckrancher,Suburban550,IndyWH Smokin'Joe, the Helmett and Charlie for all their help and advice...a huge thank you guys.

Check out this video from Jay Leno's Garrage You can now paint on your chrome parts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-1cTpSZ1l8

We have more than one Toro Wheel Horse xi tractor. We use them with the following attachments: Mower; snowblower, loader, rototiller, dozer blade, grader blade as well as a tow behind cart, fertilizer, garden sprayer. A trusted friend has suggested that my dollars would have been better spent investing in a 30h.p. compact utility tractor (CUT) for all of our chores except lawn mowing around the house. (We hire the neighbor to brush hog 5 acres each year for us). Our Toro Wheel Horse approach to our needs has worked pretty well however the occasional need for 4 wheel drive would be nice. Perhaps a CUT would be handy in situations I've never thought about? So the question for your consideration: Should I consider selling all of the Wheel Horse goodies, except the residential mower, and put the money towards a CUT??? Due to the mid-winter doldrums I have too much time on my hands and therefore I've been giving this matter some casual thought. Perhaps come March with Spring in the air I'll come to my senses and stick with what I have and what I know. Your thoughts please.

Van, I've got an M10 apart right now while I'm rebuilding a 310-8 tractor. There are five wires from the engine - two reds from the oil level sensor, a white which is the ignition "kill" wire as Chuck said, a yellow wire which is the lighting circuit, and a black wire with a diode under shrink wrap that connects to the battery for charging. None need to be connected to test the engine. Duff :thumbs:

Not bad. I was kinda thinking about doing that, only on the front of one i have that was stretched when i got it

Stay away from the adult beverages. They induce crazy thoughts. Next thing you know? You will want to put wings on it. Or at least you will notice...... Wheel Horse breed! Next thing you know? The barn is full of em'. At least, that is what Busch Lights do to me. That is my story, and I am stickin' to it........Neat Idea though.

heres pictures of my stihls 044,021,019 & a chop saw as well as 4 or 5 antique maculogh 4 or 5 antique homelites, a maul powerhead & 4or 5 others. the stihls are all i use! oh by the way i just saved from the scrapper 6 more homelite wiz & super wiz parts saws & a cat. 0 one bottom plow & rear blade, pictures on friday JAY

Maybe the machinists among us can speak to this - if they used to manufacture these bearings, would they still have the tooling tucked away somewhere? I would think the high cost of another bearing house doing a run would be having to design and build the tooling from scratch, but maybe - just maybe - PKB is already one leg up on this..... Duff :thumbs:

great idea and nice work

Hmmmm.. A WheelHorse pickup. Any thought about extending the wheelbase back and maybe out a bit? There would be no need to counter weight the front, and adding a fabbed hitch to pull a trailer would make for alot of stuff moved in one trip.

i like it.. but you will need some counter weight, I did this and with any significant weight (`250 lb) it will come off the ground without front weights i run at least 75 lb in front you will have more of a moment arm than me so it will need even more weight

Looks like it would be handy around the yard-go for it!

That product has been around for awhile now. It is still very expensive. Almost as much as plating. The big advantage is pitted parts can be filled with plastic filler and coated.

I'd like to see how it's mounted. I find it highly unlikely that one machine screw or even a 3/8" bolt would hold 85lbs in place for very long.

My son had a Cub Cadet CUT that he used to manage 6 acres with a couple horses. It was probably a bit more than he needed but compared to a GT it was a brute. He had a roto-tiller, box blade, 3 pt hitch forks (like a fork lift for the 3 pt hitch) and probably a couple other attachments. He bought a used FEL and mounted that as well - the hydro trans already had the required ports. I would say if a loader would be useful then the CUT would be the ticket. Oh, yeah, he also had a finish mower for it. It was a 3 cyl. diesel, had 4WD with locking differentials and a 3 pt hitch with 540 rpm rear PTO. Just be aware that everything is a whole lot more expensive on the bigger units. His starter went bad and the dealer wanted almost $1000 for a replacement. =8-O (He found one on eBay for less.) Tires are pretty spendy as well. The CUT is a much more capable machine but you pay for that. He sold the whole package for about $10K when he moved to a suburban lot so you're budget should get you in the ballpark for a decent CUT. I can't speak to the comparisons with the older tractors. I did see a Ford 9N (I think) with FEL for under $3K recently.

That looks VERY nice Scott! A 1046 might be do-able!

so i had to do an oil change and some service on my wifes car today and i had to take all the horses out of the shop to do this in the warm shop,i fired up the 160 and took her for a ride to charge the battery and a joy ride,she has been semi retired latly as i like to abuse the 50 dollar specials,not that the 160 cant do anything that any of my newer horses can do,just trying to preserve a classic,well i jjust wanted to say i really LIKE the sound of that big single kohler,for me theres no small engine that sounds so sweet,and cranking her over you can just feel the thump of that big piston,just had to comment on that today as i havnt ran her in months

Unbelievable how it looks now since you restored it!

Husky fan here....

Thanks for sharing Jake! Hard to believe the 401 then and now after the restore. Great job!

Those are some serious looking chains Lars!

Very nice. You can probably rotate the earth of it's axis with those! :eusa-think:

Great pics Jake! They remind me of when I was that age :)

i used my stihl 044 today, burnt 3 tanks of fuel cutting up a huge dead poplar that fell in the storm wed. night. also used my 021 for some of the small stuff. the 044 i bought new after hurricane fran in 96. i've wore out 3 bars countless chains but i don't think i've ever had the spark plug out of it! i always use stihl bar oil & 2stroke oil. Jay

You did an excellent restore Jake, If one posted for Jan tractor of month, or any of the rest of it's coral mates

Now that's a picture of love at first sight! I hope the wheel is repaired and the picture framed! :-)

Nice looking! Those chains will do some good with the Ags....chains like the ones on your other tractor will work the cross chains between the lugs and they won't do any good.

Yes - that's it. This is a "factory" block-off plate for a Kohler: If you make the block-off plate thick enough, you can tap it for a barbed fitting like this: http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/Hose-Barb-6AFH3

So... What's been happening on the project since the fun and games in the mud and snow?? Well, not much really.. I made a start on the fenders by making lot's of small bit's of angle into two bigger lengths. These were the "quick tracks" that Garry and I made in a rush just before the Ardingly last year. These will go here.. And here.. They will give the inside of the fenders something to bolt onto. Pete then turned up, so after the normal couple of coffee's Pete ground down a few welds. I had a bit of grinding fun as well.. Then it was time to try and work out "a look" for the stretched fenders.. I didn't like the look at this point... What's going on ere then? Thought I'd better check I could still climb on and sit down with the fender on.. Yep I can.. Who say's I drink too much coffee???? A view from the front. We had a good think about what to do with the fender during lunch.. The fender also makes a handy table After lot's of this and this we had the look sorted.. A gentle curve at each end and a gentle slope down from the back to the front.. That looks a lot better.. The next day I started measuring up for the extra steel needed to stretch the fenders, when this chap turned up!! It's been a while since Garry last dropped in, it was good to catch up dude. Despite Garry being involved with this project from it's very start, he had never actually had a drive of the beast!! I'm sure you can guess what's coming next

I think the tranz pulley is on backwards too. Where are you going to put the gas tank? :scratchead:

Just like there ain't no substitute for cubic inches......There ain't no substitute for a good set of chains. Its not all about the tread design either, the tread design can look super agressive but if the tires are wide and made out of a super hard compound they won't be nearly as good as a set of chains. I feel the best tire for our Wheel Horse's if you aren't going to use chains are the narrow 6x12 snow tire treads. (if you find a set you can put studs in?) They are almost like the old Firestone Town & Country tires. Now that was a legendary tire. I had a 1970 Olds Cutlass back 25 yrs. ago. I threw a new set of Town and Country's on the Olds and that thing was unstoppable. I live on a mountain, I can remember a time when we had a serious snow storm, 4x4's couldn't make it up the hill. I told them to get outta my way because I was coming up the hill. They thought I was nuts. (I am) I made it up no problem, I held it to the floor to show boat a little, the glass pack mufflers were mighty loud. My tires were awesome, theirs sucked. I had a set of small block Chevy heads for weight in the trunk. My brother in law has worked for Firestone for almost 30 yrs. He told me one reason they stopped making Town & Country tires is because they were too good. I'm not too sure how true that is? Like TT said, no tire will get good traction on ice.

If you are looking for a hybrid between ag and turf tires....I really like the Carlisle All Trail Field Thad (Ohio)

Is there any difference in the short chute to the tall chute? It looks like the tall chute would be better, any opinions on what is better. By the was thanks for all the input, and loved the video Wyatt, thanks Gene....

Nope craig ... this one is made in sweden on the box it says. USE AFTER OR INSTEAD OF LAWN MOWING ONLY... Hummm.....