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I'm going to look at this beauty tonight. Its a 314-H with a 42 or 48 inch deck (not sure yet), canopy (not shown), and 480 hours on the meter. He is the 2nd owner and says its always been garaged. He says he would like to get $600 so I'm almost certain im bringing it home tonight to replace a junky craftsman but I'm curious on the total value of the tractor as a package deal as well as the individual pieces) and also just what everyone's opinion is of the 314H in general - Ill be using it just for mowing and light yard duty (I have a C-160 for heavy work). I know this is a great deal but I would just like to get as much info from others who are more experienced. I always feel better when I'm encouraged by others. This will be my 2nd wheel horse and my wife's first so I want to make sure she loves it as much as I do

I had this in my files. I'm not sure where I originally got it from, but here goes.

3-13-1928 Rubber Tractor Tire Patented Hoyle Pounds, A Winter Garden Tractor Dealer, Invented A Better Tire and Rolled With It. An American farmer on a tractor: The words conjure up an image of an overall-clad figure riding through amber waves of grain, maybe in Nebraska. But it was not on the Great Plains that the rubber-tired farm tractor got its start. It was in Winter Garden where an astute West Orange businessman named Hoyle Pounds really put farmers on a roll. After engineering studies and a football career at the University of Florida, Pounds opened a garage in Ocoee in 1914. In a few years he moved to Winter Garden, where he started a Ford dealership. By 1918 Pounds was Florida's first Ford Motor Co. tractor dealer, historian Henry Swanson says in his book Countdown for Agriculture in Orange County, Florida. The wave of land speculation that was pulling people into the state hit Pounds' business along with everyone else's. In 1919 Pounds sold eight tractors, but by 1926, the year he put up a two-story brick building on Plant Street, his agency was selling more than 40 a year. Those tractors moved on metal wheels with metal cleats that grabbed into the soil. Highway building was bustling in Orange County, Swanson says, and farmers and citrus growers who needed to move their tractors from one piece of property to another now had to traverse these newly paved roads. The result: the metal cleats chewed up the pavement, gaining tractors the name "highway eaters." Faced with expensively hacked-up roadways, official passed laws forbidding the metal wheels from crossing the highways. And tractor owners complained to Hoyle Pounds. From Oklahoma, Pounds ordered some large, hard rubber tires designed for oil-drilling equipment. After considerable experimentation, Pounds realized that the gear ratio to the drive shaft would have to be changed because the wheels with rubber tires turned at a faster rate than the old metal wheels, moving on top of the soil rather than digging into it. After all the details had been tested for several months, Pounds applied for and was granted Patent No. 1662208 on March 13, 1928, for his rim and lug design for airless tires. The rubber tires not only made tractors faster. It increased their mobility. "Pounds' invention `ushered in' the use of rubber tires on virtually all movable farm equipment," according to Swanson. Still active into his 80s, Pounds led the Winter Garden volunteer fire department for 40 years, according to the Winter Garden Heritage Foundation's book All Aboard! A Journey Through Historic Winter Garden. Workers at Pounds Motor Co. served as volunteer firemen, and when the siren sounded, all work stopped as they ran to fight the blaze. Before he died in 1981, Pounds received many state and national honors for his work to transform the old "highway eaters." Pounds Motor Co., at Plant Street and Lakeview Avenue, continues to be an imposing presence in downtown Winter Garden, centered in the two-story brick building that Hoyle Pounds built in 1926. And his 1928 tractor has a spot of honor in the galleries of the Orange County Regional History Center.

Even Carnnac the Magnificent could use a little help here!

The extra spring holes on the blade are there to aid in how you want you blade to perform. If you put your trip spings in the upper holes the blade will bill leaned forward cause a more skimming affect not allowing the blade to dig in as bad. Lower holes allow blade to be tilted back causing the blade to want to dig in instead of a skimming action. Just remember it's s garden tractor and not a heavy earth moving dozed. You can keep skimming dirt with several passes and get down to where you want to be. Your just not going to have enough weight to get the traction needed to cut layers of ground, especially if the ground has never been disturb before. Even big dozer have trouble pushing virgin hard pack ground from time to time. That's why you see big rippers on the back of them, so they can loosen up the dirt first. I just re-read what I posted early this morning before coffee. It should be just the opposite. Upper holes cause blade to lean back not forward, thus causing a more of dig down action. No more post before morning coffee.

I Got a door ...

http://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=14042 > This may have been posted before but check out the crazy Wheel Horse tractors from this old Farm Show. "This group of 10 Wheel Horse tractors, put together by Ohio resident Charlie Melton, is one of the most unusual tractor collections we’ve ever seen. Every one of the tractors has received a radical “makeover”. “I like to recycle things and enjoy the challenge of making something different without spending a lot of money,” says Melton. “I buy Wheel Horse tractors in junked-out condition so I get them cheap. I put new engines in them and usually new tires, too, and paint them with the original Wheel Horse red and white colors. All the tractors in my collection were originally built in the late 1960’s and early 1970’s. The manufacturer kept the same grille for all those years so all my tractors have a common look.” Melton credits David Cross of Bainbridge, Ohio, for supplying him with Wheel Horses. Contact: FARM SHOW Followup, Charlie Melton, 6941 Eyman Rd., Washington Court House, Ohio 43160. Thanks to photographer Gail Streitenberger for supplying most of the photos." 24_6_23.pdf

A mid-mount grader blade would be best.

How cool would it be... that collection featured at the big show.

Uh Oh, that picture surfaced again

Here are some pics of my test stand...I have found it to be accurate within 5-10 percent of actual Kohler dyno info. The biggest reason I wanted to build it was to measure increases or decreases in power/torque and for fine tuning. So far I have had good luck with what I have done. And it was relatively cheap to build. I think my grand total was less than $250 for the whole deal. joel

A picture would help with a diagnosis.

I'm trying to scare Stella and the snow away from around here, put the new to me single stage on the 520xi today changed the oil and filters in the bagger 520H this past Friday still has the single stage on it, also still have the 2stage on the anniversary 520H a plow on the GoodFriday 520H and last but not least the new Mahindra eMax22 is 4x4 with FEL, Jeff.

I've done a lot dirt work over the years with my Wheel Horses - biggest trick is to use a disk or cultivator first to break the compacted topsoil , then blade to your heart's content . Once you get a cut started I generally only use half the blade to do the next cut to minimize stress on the blade and tractor .I rarely use the rear most setting on the blades since at that angle they will dig quite aggressively - usually the second hole from the top is perfect . Don't expect more than a couple inches per pass and you must work carefully not to compact the dirt again by making too many trips back and forth - the weight of the tractor will pack the ground quite well . Get it close to final grade and use the blade in the tipped or vertical position to level everything by back dragging the material . Just re-graded the parking area out back last week , now we got a decent snowfall finishing up this morning so I'll probably have to plow later today...hope it all froze down well enough but it's doubtful . Again , take your time and you'll be surprised at what that Horse is capable of doing... Sarge

Fantastic work! Unless you already have some Glyptal on hand I would think the red enamel would be fine for this area. I think you should skip the 1/8" plate steel in favor of a sheet of Plexiglass, that drive system is too unique to cover up.

I have been hearing lately that Nascar is looking into making the cars much quieter so that fans can talk among themselves while watching the race... What a joke... If you can't handle the noise stay home, If you can't handle the fumes stay home. If you can't handle the fact that it is a dangerous sport and that someone might get hurt, or worse, stay home. If you can't handle the fact that my driver might spin yours out or vice versa then stay home. If you can't handle the fact that drivers sometimes in the heat of the moment will take a swing at each other then stay home. If you can't handle the fact that your driver MIGHT NEVER WIN, then stay home! Now, my wife can't stand noise and she is all about trying to please everyone. She grew up in a racing family with a Dad who built engines and carburetors for many of the locals who raced at our local track here in Danbury CT. The Racearena. She started going to the races before she was even able to walk. When I told her about Nascar's latest bright idea her first comment was, oh brother, races are supposed to be loud! I have a funny feeling Nascar might be getting some pressure from its new sponsor, Monster to quiet the cars down. I bet its the corporate sissies that are whining about the noise.... I'm done for now.

If one has the correct blade it has springs from the frame to the moldboard that trips if hitting something solid and then it also has extra holes that allow you to dial in how much tension, Jeff.

I have killed a k301 running e85 without even working it. You must figure the rotor I used is roughly 30 to 35 percent of a brake system used to stop a 3000 or so pound car. Then added another caliper to that rotor for twice the clamping, also stabilizes the arm to measure the torque output by placing force on two sides verses one. I would guess I could stop at least twice what I have already. Joel

Wait....I'm thinking...

I will take what is behind door # 2 Some one better look out there door,,,,,,,,its coming....

I always keep my toes-in my shoes and out from under the deck!

If it was me, use the 'D' serier motor as a complete replacement of the failed 'C-160'. These parts have been friends now for 40+ years and may not play well if mixed.... Consider these: 1) is the driver GEAR the same....count teeth & diameter...if so, 2) MAYBE...just cut off the 'D' series shaft to the length of the 'C' shaft and put the 'C' cover plate on...with new O-ring seal. 3) Before to replace the hyd pump MOTOR, open it up to inspect the PISTON SLIPPERS and VALVE PLATE...refinish if necessary. It should look like this:

You said it, "it's a great deal". Tractor alone is well worth more than that. I'm sure it's a 42" deck with the blower unit and that is great for leaves as well as grass. I have a 314-8 and I love it, plenty of power and not bad on gas. Run-don't walk to get that gem!

@WHX9 @Amcwheel85 and @Chevydave ... the exact same rear tire from TSC is $79.99 for one tire...so that's cheap in my eyes ! Buy one get one for $5 from Wally World is a super good deal . I see it says supply's are getting low , so better hurry . Here's a link to compare both... http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/hi-run-wd1044-23-x-105-12-in-4-ply-replacement-tire?cm_vc=-10005 https://www.walmart.com/ip/23x10.50-12-Turf-Tire/39088345

The blade will trip when it hits a solid object, but it is not good for the tractor. The frame to transaxle plate will suffer damage. Best to loosen the ground first...plow, ripper, or even a carefully slowly operated tiller.

Just guessing you're looking for a replacement coil since there's no spark. After pulling the flywheel, remove the points cover and clean the contacts if you haven't already. Might not need that coil. If you still need a coil might as well change the points and condenser too while you're in there.

Here is a color photo of the screw drive .

Medium frame models 1972-73 Commando 800. There was a 1975 model in Europe 1973 8hp 4-speed with horizontal crankshaft 1974-75 B-80 4-Speed and B-100 Auto Garry

Long frame models including the Electro 12 have a 45-1/2" wheelbase (Center of the front wheels to the center of the rear wheels) Medium frame models have a 43-1/2" wheelbase. Short frame models have a 41-1/4" wheelbase. Garry

it can be done but is a little hard lol. but what works better is take a plow like you would use in a garden plow up ground first then move it carefully with blade.

Coming from you Steve, Ill take that as gospel. Yes the deck is included along with another transmission. I think its is in exceptional shape overall.

I made the 6 hour round trip to Somerset Co. Pa this weekend to pick up supplies in case Stella has me snowed in for a week. My favorite Nephew makes the best cabin fever medication available. One Strawberry and one Peach flavored 185 proof. It also happened to be my Mothers 91st birthday party. With her Great, and Great, Great Grand Daughters. This trip also takes me thru Adams Country apple country. Look familiar ?

So the other day I built a kohler for a customer and had no way to test run it. So I put this together. This is first version as I will be making improvements to this in the future.

'Fish that's yer ball yer center field

Wow.......I hope there were some final words,,,,,,,, You guys are just not right !!!!!! LOLOLOL

I'm going to guess it's the chute cable that wraps around the the handle.

That would have been in my harem the second I saw it for that price!! Go get it you will not be sorry! I'll tel you how to get used to the column motion....SEAT TIME!

Good call on the belt guard installed it today shifts like new ... THANKS for the info .....

Right now it's just a handle so I can slide the door open . It was in a box of parts I got with a RJ basket case and round hood parts. The handle does pivot though.

Does it lift up and down jeff 🙄

I was not watching and got one tire up against a small stump. Was moving real slow in low range. It forced the tire outward on the front and in the process twisted the arm coming off the spindle to tie rod end. A large adjustable wrench closed up on the thickness of the arm retuned the arm to it's original position and corrected the toe-in. What surprised me was how easy it happened. Check your arms to see they are twisted and if left and right is a match. Garry

Thanks all. As usual, about the time I hit the send button, I located the pin. It is 3/4 ". Just about have the tranny together now. Don, Too much snow for me. Left Anchorage last Saturday....about 2+ feet of snow, somewhere around 0 degrees. Got to Texas, about 75 degrees. I'll take Texas! I will be in Maryland most of June, have all plans of being at the show for Friday evening and Saturday. Looking forward to seeing everyone again. Dennis

I think you mean "the balls are .25".

Moms are cool. Mine will be 97 on the Ides of March.

Still catching flies.

Picked up another 312-8 today, pretty happy with my purchase

Imagine if all newer tractors were made by MTD and painted different colors, you would have NASCAR. Wait a minute.........

Get rid of the Chase,lucky dogs, wave a-rounds, timed repairs. Start awarding points for every lap led. Add lots of points to the race winner giving him separation from finishing 2nd. If there are 32 races, only count a drivers best 30 finishes towards the championship. Let the teams throwout their 2 worst runs. Quite often a team has a couple of bad runs early in the year and they are out of it by April. Emphasize leading laps and winning instead of awarding running around in a circle for 3 hrs. and finishing 10th.