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K181 starter pulley help

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MJBaldie

Hi all, I have just joined and I am in England. I have a 1969 Commando 8  built in Belgium that has been running for many years now but it is fitted with a pull start.

I know it should be an electric start and have tried to get a starter/generator for it. At some time a different engine has been fitted ( i think a 1971 K181T Spec 30660d serial 9786603 ) As the freight/duty is so much from the USA I can get a s/g from ireland for a Cub Cadet but it is CCR because they were driven from the pto side. My question is, does anybody know what size pulley I would need on the pto drive and also what size pulley for the s/g. Any info on where parts are available would also be a great help.

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ebinmaine

:text-welcomeconfetti:

 

 

 

I guess I'm not a lot of help with the information you need but I'll call some other people in and maybe they will be....

Some folks from your side for the pond.

@Stormin

@Mickwhitt

@Dan.gerous

 

@RandyLittrell and @PeacemakerJack ... Cub guys... 

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PeacemakerJack

Thanks for tagging me on this one Eric...

 

The S/G for the CC’s ran a 2.5” pulley.

 

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I’ll have to measure the PTO basket pulley when I get home tonight.  I’m thinking that it is about 10” in diameter 

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Achto

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Stormin

:WRS:  Send Chris Sutton on here or The Showman on My Old Machine  a PM. Same person and he's in West Sussex. He'd be a good bet.

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Dan.gerous

I have a starter, it came as some spares with the C125 I brought the other week. No idea if it would fit or even if it works.

 

Anybody know if that would be any use?

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Achto
49 minutes ago, Dan.gerous said:

Anybody know if that would be any use?

 

A C125 should have had a Bendix style starter. I believe that he is trying to fit a starter/generator.

 

51 minutes ago, Dan.gerous said:

No idea if it would fit or even if it works

 

A quick way to bench test it. If it's a Bendix starter hook jumper cables from to a battery. Then negative to the body of the starter, touch the positive cable to the single wire stud on the starter. It should spin and the drive gear should slam out away from the starter.

 

On a starter/ gen - clamp negative to the body, touch positive to the "A" terminal. The S/G should spin.

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Dan.gerous
2 minutes ago, Achto said:

 

A C125 should have had a Bendix style starter. I believe that he is trying to fit a starter/generator.

 

 

A quick way to bench test it. If it's a Bendix starter hook jumper cables from to a battery. Then negative to the body of the starter, touch the positive cable to the single wire stud on the starter. It should spin and the drive gear should slam out away from the starter.

 

On a starter/ gen - clamp negative to the body, touch positive to the "A" terminal. The S/G should spin.

Yes, unfortunately it's the Bendix type, will check if it starts in the morning, looks like it's been in water at some point.

 

 

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Achto
6 minutes ago, Dan.gerous said:

will check if it starts in the morning, looks like it's been in water at some point.

 

If it spins but the drive gear does not slam out, you'll need to free it up on the spiral shaft. DO NOT use any liquid lube. graphite powder is my choice to lube the shaft. Also never tap on the body of the starter, it can/will loosen the magnets inside the starter.

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Dan.gerous
4 minutes ago, Achto said:

 

If it spins but the drive gear does not slam out, you'll need to free it up on the spiral shaft. DO NOT use any liquid lube. graphite powder is my choice to lube the shaft. Also never tap on the body of the starter, it can/will loosen the magnets inside the starter.

Thanks for the tips 😊 will let you know how it goes, at least if anybody needs one it's there.

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Mickwhitt

Hi there, 

I'm in south Yorkshire and have a C125.

Not sure about the model you are dealing with. 

Certainly would be better to have electric start on your machine. 

I'm sure we will get a solution on Red Square.

Mick 

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Dan.gerous
On 5/5/2020 at 7:38 PM, Dan.gerous said:

Thanks for the tips 😊 will let you know how it goes, at least if anybody needs one it's there.

 

Tried the starter out and it's dead, didn't turn over our even hint at being interested. Pretty sure it's been left outside in a bucket of water looking at the strains on it.

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MJBaldie

Thank you all, peacmaker jack, did you manage to confirm size of basket pulley ?

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