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Hello.  I have a 1985 Wheel Horse 417A 31-17KE01.  A hydraulic line has blown, and I need help identifying the transmission or more specifically the hos part number.  The part diagrams I found online are not listing a hose part number, or the diagram links are dead. Here is the best one I've found, but again, no hose part number.
https://www.jackssmallengines.com/jacks-parts-lookup/manufacturer/toro/riding-products/1985/31-17ke01-417-a-garden-tractor-1985/automatic-transmission-400-series

I think the transmission is the 400 Series, basing this guess on the lack of an oil filter in the 300 Series diagram.  

I've taken some pictures.... rear of the tractor, circles indicate where the hose was attached. 

At the front, under the battery tray.

The hose; if I stretch it out, it measures 27" (if the fitting was still attached.) 

Thanks in advance for the help! 

 

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Pullstart

Hello @the jeep driver!  It looks like you’ve been a member for quite a few years but never posted until now.  

 

I would contact Lowell at www.wheelhorsepartsandmore.com or here in the vendors section.  He can make hoses I believe.

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gwest_ca

This parts list is 28 pages and the hoses are on page 23.

Garry

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ebinmaine
8 minutes ago, pullstart said:

Hello @the jeep driver!  It looks like you’ve been a member for quite a few years but never posted until now.  

 

I would contact Lowell at www.wheelhorsepartsandmore.com or here in the vendors section.  He can make hoses I believe.

My thoughts exactly. Go ahead and give Lowell a call and him or Joette will fix you right up.

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the jeep driver

Thanks for the replies.
  @pullstart, yes, I joined when I purchased my Wheel Horse, but up to now, I've only been reading; anything I needed to know had been covered in other posts. 
@gwest_ca Thanks, that file will prove to be useful in the future.... when pullstart and ebinmaine mentioned having a hose made, I remembered there is a hydraulic line shop close to where I work.  I stopped in with the broken hose, and they made me one on the spot.  
Thanks again.

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Pullstart
7 minutes ago, the jeep driver said:

 up to now, I've only been reading; anything I needed to know had been covered in other posts. 

 

 

So awesome :handgestures-thumbupright:

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lynnmor
6 hours ago, the jeep driver said:

 I stopped in with the broken hose, and they made me one on the spot.  
 

Were they able to make a hose with the exact same fittings?  With those getting scarce, some shops use fittings that are larger making it difficult to install.

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the jeep driver
On 3/28/2020 at 7:35 PM, lynnmor said:

Were they able to make a hose with the exact same fittings?  With those getting scarce, some shops use fittings that are larger making it difficult to install.

No, no they were not.... the newer style fittings are too big to fit.  I took a picture of the new fitting so others could see for comparison purposes.... 
The part that actually attaches to the hose, it's too long.  I need the hose to flex to fit around the … fins on the heat sink (if that's what it actually is; it's in the rear of the tractor.)  So the 90 will not align with the hose fitting.  I'm reaching out to www.wheelhorsepartsandmore.com.
 

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lynnmor

That is where I got my hoses and they had the large collar as well.  I think he adds a bit of length to compensate.  I was able to make them work, but it is a poor fit and may cause problems over time.

 

I believe that later models had only hoses to the lift cylinder and solid lines to the pump.  Perhaps one could update to the solid lines.

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