Any thoughts why this won't run right? :-)

[ebinmaine 63,137]

I've messed around with carburetors big and small for maybe 25 or 30 years?

This is definitely the one that is absolutely the worst condition I've ever seen.

Several different types of corrosion and there is white and tan colored gel built up all inside of the fuel bowl area.

Corrosion inside a couple of the galley holes blocked them so much I didn't even realize they were there.

 

I took it all apart and carefully scraped it out and it is now soaking for a few days.

 

 

 

One serious question though. The main jet is screwed into the bottom. That hole was literally filled with rust. I found that a little odd considering the carburetor is aluminum and the jet is likely brass? Maybe the bottom bolt holding the bowl on is steel and that's where the rust came from.

That jet does NOT want to move. Is it super important that I take it out and clean in there or should I be able to just spray through or blow through with compressed air...

 

[pacer 3,159]

YUCK!! Thats a nasty one. I've had a couple almost that bad and there was no way that jet was coming out.

 

I'd think it'd be time to order up one of those $15 carbs off the bay.

[pfrederi 17,147]

That is ugly.  i would try cleaning you are very likely to damage the jet fighting with it.  Be interesting to see if there are Chicom knockoffs carbs for the big iron K series Twins

[ebinmaine 63,137]

32 minutes ago, pacer said:

YUCK!! Thats a nasty one. I've had a couple almost that bad and there was no way that jet was coming out.

 

I'd think it'd be time to order up one of those $15 carbs off the bay.

 

11 minutes ago, pfrederi said:

That is ugly.  i would try cleaning you are very likely to damage the jet fighting with it.  Be interesting to see if there are Chicom knockoffs carbs for the big iron K series Twins

 

 

I haven't looked yet.

I wasn't impressed with the one I got for the Cinnamon Horse.

This carb throat is very large.

 

 

I'll let it sit in the soup for a few days and see if it'll clean up.

The needle itself was not too awful so hopefully the seat will be ok.

 

[diesel cowboy 263]

1 hour ago, ebinmaine said:

That jet does NOT want to move. Is it super important that I take it out and clean in there or should I be able to just spray through or blow through with compressed air...

 

Most of the time I can't get them out either.  I usually spray carb. cleaner into it and blow it out with compressed air and most of the time have good luck doing that.  As for a new carb.  this place sells them: https://isavetractors.com/carburetor-for-kohler-k582-engine-4805306s/  It's a bit more expensive than $15 but I've put a few on different machines from him and haven't had any issues.  Had to adjust the high speed needle on one a little bit but the rest of them went on haven't had to touch them since

[ebinmaine 63,137]

@diesel cowboy

Yeah I saw that listed in a quick search.

I may very well go that route.

I've not bought anything from Norman yet but I've spoken to him by phone or email a couple times. Great guy.

 

[CountryRock 198]

That is one nasty carb.

[WHNJ701 4,164]

soak it in Berryman, it can be saved

[Lee1977 6,217]

Guitar strings are great for cleaning those little holes in carburetors along with soaking in cleaner and blowing out with the air compressor.. 

[The Tuul Crib 7,332]

3 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

@diesel cowboy

Yeah I saw that listed in a quick search.

I may very well go that route.

I've not bought anything from Norman yet but I've spoken to him by phone or email a couple times. Great guy.

 

 Have you tried any of this chem dip!

[ebinmaine 63,137]

2 hours ago, jabelman said:

soak it in Berryman, it can be saved

 

29 minutes ago, Lee1977 said:

Guitar strings are great for cleaning those little holes in carburetors along with soaking in cleaner and blowing out with the air compressor.. 

 

4 minutes ago, The Tool Crib said:

 Have you tried any of this chem dip!

 

 

 

Can't remember if it's berryman's as a brand but it's soaking in a gallon can of carb cleaner for the next few days at least.

[oliver2-44 8,852]

I use the small wires on a torch tip cleaner to run through all the holes. spray them out with carb cleaner, then gently run the wire through again, repeat. 

[The Tuul Crib 7,332]

38 minutes ago, Lee1977 said:

Guitar strings are great for cleaning those little holes in carburetors along with soaking in cleaner and blowing out with the air compressor.. 

 That's another great idea lee.

I have plenty  of old guitar strings laying around. In fact my guitar needs new strings so I'll keep the old ones. 

[JoeM 7,630]

EB what's that off of? Looks like old Briggs ? 

 

[ebinmaine 63,137]

13 minutes ago, OILUJ52 said:

EB what's that off of? Looks like old Briggs ? 

 

Kohler twin K582

[JoeM 7,630]

I know I have  17 up in the pile no 582 

[Pullstart 59,722]

I believe in you EB and BBT!

Edited August 19, 2019 by pullstart
Old dog... new tricks

[ebinmaine 63,137]

6 hours ago, OILUJ52 said:

I know I have  17 up in the pile no 582 

I have another thread going about it.

It was a hand built generator trailer.

The engine was likely from a piece of construction equipment originally.

Base paint is yellow with blue above that and a couple areas with army od green.

 

I'm hoping to shoehorn it into an old horse.

[ebinmaine 63,137]

@jabelman

@Lee1977

@The Tool CribCri

And others...

 

I'll post more pictures in a few minutes showing the carb itself. This is the cleaner that I use.

I've had it for a couple years and I can't remember why I did not buy the Berryman's but I've been very very satisfied with this Gunk brand kit.

 

 

 

 

[richmondred01 2,205]

Not to steal you thread but has anyone noticed that the gunk and Berryman chem dip been getting a blueish green slime on the bottom?

Any thoughts? The alcohol in the gas? 

[ebinmaine 63,137]

30 minutes ago, richmondred01 said:

Not to steal you thread but has anyone noticed that the gunk and Berryman chem dip been getting a blueish green slime on the bottom?

Any thoughts? The alcohol in the gas? 

never worry about stealing one of my threads. We are all here to share as much information as possible.

 

The alcohol in the gas could be causing that, yes. I'm only guessing here but when we all see what we refer to as ethanol pearls in the bowl of a carburetor I don't see why that stuff would not accumulate into the bottom of the dip can.

 

The other thing would be the dissolving of the corrosion of copper or brass parts. Note the pictures above ... there was already a fair pile of brown and white and tan slime or sludge inside this carburetor.

Of course I did the best I could to wipe that stuff away manually but there's no way I got it all.

 

[ebinmaine 63,137]

Here's a couple pictures of the carburetor in its cleaned up state. I am extremely impressed with the way this thing came out.

 

2 days soaking.

Removed all parts and gently brushed them by hand with a wire brush under lukewarm water.

 

4 more days soaking.

Finished cleaning up with the wire brush and a little sandpaper where it was necessary.

 

 

 

 

[tunahead72 2,341]

That's impressive Eric, it's hard to believe that's even the same carb!

 

[ebinmaine 63,137]

2 minutes ago, tunahead72 said:

That's impressive Eric, it's hard to believe that's even the same carb!

 

Thanks! I'm installing it now so we will find out sometime today if it looks as good internally as it does externally.