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formariz
2 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said:

Thanks, I guess I was expecting this to do more than support a lock core.

I am sure Dave will chime in with more, but from what I understand it is easier to pick a lock while holding it in your hand than in actuality installed on a door. This duplicates the actual lock in a door.

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formariz
15 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said:

Chemist mixing pot?

No, its just a simple container. Think of its age. This is only one, but it had many friends working along with it.

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Stormin

Neolithic water container?

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Pullstart

Looks like a pre-glass insulator for power lines to me.  But I’m not much of a thinker like some of these chaps!

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Ed Kennell

Can you give us the size?

Is it a container for a liquid?

Is the bottom half solid?

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LengerichKA88

Older than the US..., is it from this continent originally or was it brought over from somewhere? 

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LengerichKA88

Is it a Dolia, for fermenting? 

 

Not the right size for a Dolia, but it matched the description I read. Still think it’s for fermenting possibly. 

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LengerichKA88

Was it, along with identical ones, attached to a water wheel for collection/power?

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LengerichKA88

Could we get a shot of it from the mouth down? 

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formariz

We are almost there, some specifics please. Operation description and name would be nice.Not from this continent. Remember it is basically the original method..Will be back in about an hour

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LengerichKA88

Is the hole in the bottom intentional?

 

which is closer, fermenting or the water wheel? That’s two opposite directions lol

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RandyLittrell

Make cheese in it? 

 

 

 

 

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formariz

Hole is intentional that should solidify answer.

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Mows4three

Two guesses:

 

Water filtering device?

 

Chocolate pot?

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Mows4three

Ok.   One more WILD guess....

 

Is it a really large bowl bowl for a Hooka (sp?).

 

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LengerichKA88
1 minute ago, Mows4three said:

Ok.   One more WILD guess....

 

Is it a really large bowl bowl for a Hooka (sp?).

 

Dave

If that’s the kinda bowl you use for Hooka, let me know next time you’re firing it up! 😂😂

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formariz

You just about had it before but you have to be sure. Same culture that invented the Hooka invented this.

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LengerichKA88

It works on conjunction with others to cool an area. They’re stacked and water is introduced which trickles through, cooling the clay and natural air flow helps produce cool air in the direction it is pointed. 

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LengerichKA88

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Ed Kennell

Water clock   or water millSee the source image

 

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Stormin

Is it off some kind of air conditioning device? Roman maybe?

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LengerichKA88
4 minutes ago, Stormin said:

Is it off some kind of air conditioning device? Roman maybe?

That’s what I’m thinking, it’s one of many like in the picture I posted. 

 

He said it was the same culture as the H-o-o-k-a-h, which would be the region that is now Pakistan and India, as soon as that light bulb clicked I remembered that^ but I can’t for the life of me find it’s actual name. Some company made one a few years back and all the articles hail then as the “inventors” 🙄

 

I am 99% certain that we’re right lol

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Stormin

If not Roman, Middle East maybe. Iran formally know as Persia.

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formariz

First let me correct myself for the Hooka is not from the same culture although widely used by it.

@LengerichKA88 you pretty much had it.about had it  a couple of posts before but I wanted you to be sure.

Ed @Ed Kennell also pretty much nailed it.

So a little history now. The Iberian Peninsula where I am from was inhabited earlier by the Romans towards the North and later by the Moors towards the South. Influences from both in all kinds of areas is prominent including surviving structures and everyday items. My in laws being from the South live in an area with a lot of visible Arab influence.

A few years back  upon excavating for  the foundation of a new structure, they came across an old large  well that somehow was in a sort of large underground void . It was almost like a protective structure was built over it prior to burying it. Inside well these pots were found. Most were broken with a few exceptions like this one. No one even knew exactly what they were not even the oldest people in the village. Experts from the National Archeological Museum were contacted. They knew what it was and described its function.They also carbon dated the pots and they are from somewhere in the 1500s. After that time other type vessels were used and eventually that method of lifting water was not used anymore. All other intact pots were donated to museum with the exception of this one which my in laws gave to me along with some other broken ones.

 

This was from a Persian wheel or a"Noria". Ed's model describes it but it is a later version. I have below a photo from the museum's model of the actual type pot was used on. It was operated by a draft animal that was blindfolded so it would not get dizzy. Pot was tied to wooden wheel by a rope around middle recess. Hole on the bottom was so air would escape through it allowing water to go into pot.

 

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Found this good description of its history

The History of the Noria.pdf

 

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LengerichKA88

That’s why I asked lol. You didn’t ya or ney one or the other so I wasn’t sure what direction to go in. I’ll get more in depth with my guesses from here on out. 

 

Another cigar for @Ed Kennell

 

@formariz, we’re there any hoops to jump through to keep it? What ever became of the area it was excavated from?

That hole was throwing off my searches, but if anyone wants to buy a Tangine steaming pot I have several websites for you 😂😂

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