my 400 suburban rebuild

[psalms83:18 174]

o yeah waaayyy off order of things to be looking at ...i was looking at decals and came up with some discrepancies

 

notice pics...hopefully they load after I type this..

another member here has some pics of his "400" though it was labeled 1961?? Wouldn't it be a 401 then? And his decals on his tractor looked old and maybe original but they looked more like the 551 series decals that... pimp my ride.com...pimp my tractor(haha not so funny)...ummm what was that site where he's sellin wheelhorse decals.......................brain fart...i was just there... Anyway you can see the pics. What's the right decals for my 400.. And when I looked at the serial tag on this members pics mine doesn't have that style decal,, mine I actually haven't found yet...

redoyourhorse.com!!! That was it

[AMC RULES 36,945]

My 400...  

for comparison. 

[wallfish 15,931]

7 minutes ago, AMC RULES said:

My 400...  

for comparison.

Did you mean 401? That hood is a 1961-401/551

[RedRanger 1,468]

2 hours ago, wallfish said:

Did you mean 401? That hood is a 1961-401/551

I agree.

Looks like a 1961 401 with 1960 foot rests to me.

Also has the 61 hood decal.

Edited June 15, 2016 by RedRanger

[AMC RULES 36,945]

Oops!  Typo, or wrong pict...

one of the two.   

Try again...400 here. 

Edited July 12, 2016 by AMC RULES

[psalms83:18 174]

9 hours ago, AMC RULES said:

My 400...  

for comparison. 

see your 400 stickers are different than what redoyourhorse.com sais is for the 400?

which is right

[Racinbob 10,290]

Check the last post. Craig grabbed the wrong picture.

[psalms83:18 174]

1 hour ago, AMC RULES said:

Typo, or wrong pict...

one of the too. 

Try again...

Craig??

I'm confused cause this one doesn't have any decals

[Racinbob 10,290]

AMC Rules. The decals are just missing. Notice the throttle and choke controls. The 60's have levers, the 61's have push/pull controls. The foot rests are different too. The 60's are bent diamond plate as shown. The 61's are cast. The 61 in post #80 has 60 footrests. That's something that is easily swapped out so it's not a good indicator of the year. Here's my 60 400 with some minor changes.

 

Edited July 12, 2016 by Racinbob

[wallfish 15,931]

Redoyourhorse.com has the correct decals listed for the 1960 400/550 suburban tractor

[WHX?? 46,805]

This is whats on my 400 guys ..& I can guarantee they are original

 

@AMC RULES dig the shower head on yer 401... I'll take a dozen!

BTW this is a very early production '60 but I would be willing to bet that on any particular day they slapped on whatever the assembly line guy had in his hand at the moment.

You gonna have your 400 at the show @Racinbob

[psalms83:18 174]

ok now that we got that straightened out wheres the serial number for the 400?? If that sticker obviously isn't on the hood anymore and nothing on the frame like the 550

[Racinbob 10,290]

It will be on the plate between the throttle and choke levers. There's a good chance it's gone. 

[wallfish 15,931]

right between the controls on the hood to cover the hole. Original is a metal plate etched but you can cut a piece of sheet metal and use the decal

Edited June 16, 2016 by wallfish

[psalms83:18 174]

if I was going to try to rebuild my rotted hood??

does anybody in Massachusetts or NH have a suburban hood.??

I need dimensions but I'm a better visual hands on kinda person...and I'm only rebuilding the bottom front that ataches to the steering and frame area so I would think any suburban hood would work

[Racinbob 10,290]

No Jim, I'm not bringing it. We're heading to Indiana after the show and I don't want to haul my trailer. 

[psalms83:18 174]

4 minutes ago, wallfish said:

right between the controls on the hood to cover the hole. Original is a metal plate etched but you can cut a piece of sheet metal and use the decal

funny I see the big hole in the hood....

also...i don't have any spots for the controls??

4 minutes ago, Racinbob said:

No Jim, I'm not bringing it. We're heading to Indiana after the show and I don't want to haul my trailer. 

 

 

wrong thread bob? Hehe

[wallfish 15,931]

I have one you can use for a pattern..

If you want to PM me your phone #, I can look around at the big show next week for one, IM a pic and what they are asking for it to you, if you want it, I'll bring it back with me.

 

look at the above pics, controls mount in the rectangle hole and the plate covers the center

[Racinbob 10,290]

Here's what they look like. I had to make new levers and used a decal from Terry along with handles from Glen. Where mine says 'Suburban 400' is where the serial number should be. I talked to Terry and asked him to do this because my number was long gone.

 

[psalms83:18 174]

2 minutes ago, wallfish said:

 

look at the above pics, controls mount in the rectangle hole and the plate covers the center

good eye

 

and thanks for the offer to do the foot work for me...though my wife does all the behind the scenes credit card and bank statements it would not be easy for me to sneak enough $$ for a hood and shipping... I need my stealthy hidden cash flow for the things I cant manufacture like stickers and bearings... She saw my liquor store purchase cause I wanted to try making scorpion bowls... ....LOL that's what I got....

[Racinbob 10,290]

 

Unfortunately your serial number is long gone too.

[psalms83:18 174]

3 minutes ago, Racinbob said:

Here's what they look like. I had to make new levers and used a decal from Terry along with handles from Glen. Where mine says 'Suburban 400' is where the serial number should be. I talked to Terry and asked him to do this because my number was long gone.

 

I want me likey I would sneak some $$ for that

Edited June 16, 2016 by psalms83:18

[Racinbob 10,290]

I was lucky. I had the piece that goes under the hood, the top plate and one lever. The plate was badly pitted so I flipped it over and, after prepping, used the decal. I made new levers from stock I got at Lowes using the one original as a pattern. As stevasaurus would say.....boom-sha-ka-la-ka...............Did I say that right Steve? 

[psalms83:18 174]

?? Can anybody else explain this one??

no bolts on any pics in the manual...and those bolts in my previous pics show they are rubbing on the side plate. AND when I took them off realized they don't actually hold anything??

the gear toothed part is welded to the caseing/housing of the spider gears. U can see it in that last pics the weld on the right side...

[Racinbob 10,290]

Take a look at this thread. Post #6 shows the differential differences.

 

I think I see what you're talking about. Get everything apart so you know exactly what you'll need to do to.