Carhold 42s fuel pump

[gt14rider 1,231]

Good evening all, @953 nut @Ed Kennell I am looking to buy a Carhold 42s fuel pump, can you give any pros or cons on this pump? I read a mixed review on this. Have you had any issues with your pump. Life time warranty?  Facet posi-flo is double in price. 

[peter lena 9,938]

@ gt14rider, been using  a carbole  low pressure  3.5 psi pumps for years , very similar  in shape / size , very solid  no issues at all , have mine just in front of engine , very  good , pete

[Ed Kennell 46,507]

I have the Carbole 42S pumps on all my tractors.    The only issue I had was my fault.   I tightened the inlet filter too tight and broke the bond between the plastic body and the metal threaded fitting.      Do not let them run dry.      I always power mine from the ignition  or coil tab on the ignition switch.

   

Edited yesterday at 12:14 AM by Ed Kennell

[Racinbob 13,029]

I use Mr. Gasket 42s pumps on my tractors. I've heard, and they look, like identical pumps but considering that the Mr. Gasket pump is about twice the cost I was curious so I did a few minutes of research before I wrote this. They are NOT the same. So......my glowing report on the Mr. Gasket can be ignored. That being said, I wouldn't hesitate to try a Carbole because of their price point. They do go 'whirrrrr' when running and not 'thumpy, thumpy' like the cheapies. I tried those and had an over 50% failure rate. I try to find a spot near the tank to mount them as it's easier to push the fuel than to suck it. 

 

[953 nut 67,314]

I have had no problems with the Carbole solid state pumps, they cost a bit more than the round "Thumper" pumps but are well worth it in my opinion.

[peter lena 9,938]

@Ed Kennell  have also  added a single green LED , bulb to my dash to  verify  pumps operation , years in , very quiet , solid  operation , regularly do a series of operational  checks / verifications to any experiment  I  try, basically  TWEEKING  any point  of  issue ,. linkages  are  king for me , how tiny ENHANCEMENTS , can make a train wreck , into a  seamless function . enjoy your  A/C . pete     

[peter lena 9,938]

@Racinbob no  fuel filter from tank ? another just before carb ?  collective / repetitive issue ?  years in on this , cleaned out tank , clear  fuel rated hose , also started using  1 to 2  oz of  STA BIL  to all my tank top offs , guess what  ?  never have any  fuel hose , break down debris anywhere , isn't that what you want ? clear  fuel hose up to carb with a  check valve ? so I am looking  right at  what's going to carb . operational  check , what's it doing ?   also another  great spot  to  lay in a 5/16 frame length steel brake line . tubing bender  for tweaking , about 4 ft , eliminate a lot of hose issue ?  why not ? inner  frame upper 90 deg angle is perfect  hiding spot for this , lots of related holes for  trials ,  tie wraps , let you experiment , have no  fuel rated issues at all  , years in . love repetitive  issues ,  like bearing failures , its not in the book , just talkin , pete   

[Racinbob 13,029]

2 hours ago, peter lena said:

@Racinbob no  fuel filter from tank ? another just before carb ?  collective / repetitive issue ?  years in on this , cleaned out tank , clear  fuel rated hose , also started using  1 to 2  oz of  STA BIL  to all my tank top offs , guess what  ?  never have any  fuel hose , break down debris anywhere , isn't that what you want ? clear  fuel hose up to carb with a  check valve ? so I am looking  right at  what's going to carb . operational  check , what's it doing ?   also another  great spot  to  lay in a 5/16 frame length steel brake line . tubing bender  for tweaking , about 4 ft , eliminate a lot of hose issue ?  why not ? inner  frame upper 90 deg angle is perfect  hiding spot for this , lots of related holes for  trials ,  tie wraps , let you experiment , have no  fuel rated issues at all  , years in . love repetitive  issues ,  like bearing failures , its not in the book , just talkin , pete   

 

Shutoff at the tank, one fuel filter before pump, no check valve, booze free fuel, no additives. Never had fuel issues. It's worked for me for decades. 

[JoeM 10,080]

I have had the cheap and the expensive. I have had both fail. 

I have installed more of the $15 ones (4) and they been running fine. 

I believe price is not always a factor of quality. 

I like lean toward the square one....not sure why. 

[gt14rider 1,231]

Got another question,  best place you've found for the pump? Near tank( maybe under tank) or in front of engine? I'll make a bracket for mounting. Sorry for the bad artwork 

[JoeM 10,080]

Best (I think a must) if the pump is lower than the tank. It is not easy but with a little creativeness can be done 

 

On this one the filter is back near the tank and the shift plate can be taken off to change filters. I do use an automotive wix filter that has a large capacity. 

 

Rear pump mounting on an xi, not some of my best work. It was a cheap pump and worked really nice.

[gt14rider 1,231]

@JoeM nice work, first Pic, where's the battery go?⁰

[JoeM 10,080]

This one has the battery up on top and rear tank. 

Your doing the right thing just putting the pump in a place and seeing if it is workable. These machine sometimes are tight on space.

Edited 2 hours ago by JoeM

[Racinbob 13,029]

11 hours ago, gt14rider said:

Got another question,  best place you've found for the pump? Near tank( maybe under tank) or in front of engine? I'll make a bracket for mounting. Sorry for the bad artwork 

 

Every tractor is different. It's best to have it below the tank. On my 2005 Classic (pic above) the location was almost a no brainer. But it can't happen on a hydro. On my 76 I didn't like anything under the hood. The fuel tank and battery took up a lot of the space. I ended up mounting it under the seat and running the extra fuel line.

 

This is the original install. That's a cheapie pump which failed about 3 football fields from the garage. A 42s has replaced it.

 

 

 

[gt14rider 1,231]

Pump should be here today, I'll get the torch and BMFH ready. Nothing some duct tape and bubble gum can't fix. I'll take pictures