Looking at a 1267

[Espiritus 7]

Hi, all. I tinker alittle but my age is starting to slow me down. I've been wanting to leave John Deere behind as I've decided I've been more faithful to him than he to I.

I only mow about three acres, and occasionally pull a trailer around to dump barn clean out compose. I found a 1267 not too far from me with a disc, plow & mower. Everything is original. They say it was the sellers' grandfathers' machine, always barn kept. I tend to believe them.

They said everything works. It's too far for me to casually go look. My one concern from the photos is it appears to toe out. I need to know how big of a problem this is.

Also, are parts for these still available or do people buy "parts machines" to scavenge?

 

 

 

[Pullstart 66,839]

  That front attachment is not original, but looks fun.  I would be Leary of the front axle/spindles being worn.  Longer or adjustable tie rods are an option, but not likely the fix.

[Espiritus 7]

10 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

  That front attachment is not original, but looks fun.  I would be Leary of the front axle/spindles being worn.  Longer or adjustable tie rods are an option, but not likely the fix.

I can remove this as I have no need for a bumper hitch! My concern is the toeing out. I doubt if they'll pull a tire so I can see the extent of wallowing. Can I assume there's bushings & bearings and there's replacement parts available? It just occurred to me that I have no idea what kind of steering mechanism is in these.

[Pullstart 66,839]

There are not bushings between the axle and the spindles.  The wheels likely have bearings.  Not all of this video applies to you, but talks about grease jobs.  Many times, zero gravity grease jobs are missed, but that’s how the grease gets to the parts that see the most wear, the quickest.  Different machines, kind of.  All the same axle components!
 

 

[Pullstart 66,839]

This link shows my 502 with the ‘64 chassis.  This chassis has the exact steering components of the 1267.

 

https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/topic/73794-502-worker-refresh/?page=3&tab=comments#comment-729520

 

[ebinmaine 72,727]

 

 

1 hour ago, Espiritus said:

are parts for these still available or do people buy "parts machines" to scavenge?

 

 

Both. 

 

Here on Redsquare we have several great vendors. Also some of us keep our own Parts Departments.  

 

Don't be the least bit concerned about parts availability. 

 

The tow out IS repairable. How... is the question.  

Could be tie rods. Could be spindles. 

Could even be a worn axle or wheel hub. 

All repairable.  

 

Also. That picture MAY be misleading. The aspect angle may be misconstruing or exaggerating an issue.  

 

 

 

[Espiritus 7]

Might have JD rear tires. I'm so used to seeing "yellow" that I missed it.

They have the original owners manual, face page covered with owners notes, part numbers & phone numbers scribbled down in pencil, pen and I think crayon. Makes it endearing.

[Pullstart 66,839]

It does look pretty nice 

[oliver2-44 10,734]

This thread had a good list of things to look at.

New-to-the-herd checklist? - Tractors - RedSquare Wheel Horse Forum

[953 nut 60,083]

1 hour ago, ebinmaine said:

That picture MAY be misleading. The aspect angle may be misconstruing or exaggerating an issue.  

3 hours ago, Espiritus said:

I found a 1267 not too far from me with a disc, plow & mower. Everything is original. They say it was the sellers' grandfathers' machine, always barn kept.

That is a fine looking .  Finding a one owner survivor that is nearly sixty years old is great. One of the best parts of being a Wheel Horse owner is the quality that was built into them. Standard bearings and seals that can be bought anywhere were used and we have several vendors providing aftermarket parts if needed. The other great thing about being a Wheel Horse owner is the support you will find on this site.

[oliver2-44 10,734]

On 5/15/2025 at 4:14 PM, Espiritus said:

Might have JD rear tires. I'm so used to seeing "yellow" that I missed it.

 

Looks great original, but you will have to repaint those rear rims.

Poor horse is probable feeling abused with that yellow paint. 

Edited May 17 by oliver2-44

[stvski80085 238]

Looks good but I agree the yellow wheels needs to be fixed.

steve

[WHX?? 51,782]

6 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

Don't be the least bit concerned about parts availability

In fact EB & 953 nut nailed it all. 

 

One word of warning tho they all look better in pictures. Many times I have went to score and the the tractor had some serious deficiencies but looked good in pictures. A real downer especially when some travel time & gas money is in play.  Only thing a guy can do is work on the selling price if not as advertised. 

The thing that would worry me is the front hitch. It possibly says farmer welding with other possible molestation & cobblements. Rims another one.

 

My guess is the hitch monkey business was also used as a push bumper. Might explain the missing headlight lens and the toe out. The deck belt tensioner has also been altered. 

Trouble is one cannot tell just from pictures.

Unlike others here I am a true orginal freak and make no apologies for being one. 

Not trying to burst your bubble, especially when trying to convert you from the dark side,  just my 

 

On the other hand I picked up a orginal unmolested 1267 for  @Mike'sHorseBarn

and it was indeed as good as pics suggested.  

Edited May 16 by WHX??

[Retired Wrencher 5,792]

@Espiritus If you get this 1267 you will not be sorry. 1267 are hard to find model in some areas. Six speeds limited slip tranny big block 12 for that time is a plus. And engines were made to last multiple life times. So make yours, buy fixing things that do not belong. Enjoy the ride when done.\\

Edited May 16 by Retired Wrencher

[Ed Kennell 42,047]

7 hours ago, WHX?? said:

The deck belt tensioner has also been altered. 

What is altered Jim?

[Mike'sHorseBarn 3,248]

Hey nice 1267! As jim said he rescued one for me last spring and mine has a pristine original seat to boot! Don't be concerned at all about parts availability, we wheel horse nuts keep our own hoards and swap the stuff around quite often lol

 

 

[squonk 43,843]

Here's the 1267 I had. Did some modern mods and put a 14HP engine in it.

 

[Wayne0 1,205]

15 hours ago, oliver2-44 said:

 

Looks great original, but you will have to repaint those rear rims.

Poor horse is probable filling abused with that yellow paint. 

Not to mention the ridicule from other Horses!

[Handy Don 14,082]

Yep, from the pictures, that is a nice looking unit. 

 

@ebinmaine and @953 nut have good points. A wide-angle lens used close to the subject can distort the heck out of the image. If you can get the seller to shoot from 20’ away and then use the camera’s zoom to tighten the shot you’ll get a much better idea of the alignment.

 

If there is heavy wear on the axle and spindles, fear not, replacements are readily available. My sense, though, is that there is only a little toe-out (most likely the due to tied rod end wear) being camera exaggerated. IMHO new adjustable tie rods are a worthwhile, and modest, investment--they relieve anxiety and let you dial in exactly the alignment you want. 

 

[rjg854 12,215]

Have you gone to get it yet