tom2p 2,393 #226 Posted January 16, 2020 lookin good magoo ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZXT 2,394 #227 Posted January 16, 2020 I've used tire sealant in the past, but it's always been Berymans. One or two pumps would do the trick, whereas Slime and others wouldn't have any effect at all. The store I bought that at stopped selling it years ago though so I've had more incentive to fix things right since then. I wonder what the wheel would look like with sealant in it if we used nitrogen instead of compressor air? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Magoo 226 #228 Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, ZXT said: I've used tire sealant in the past, but it's always been Berymans. One or two pumps would do the trick, whereas Slime and others wouldn't have any effect at all. The store I bought that at stopped selling it years ago though so I've had more incentive to fix things right since then. I wonder what the wheel would look like with sealant in it if we used nitrogen instead of compressor air? Probably why tire places don't want to mess with a tire that has had sealant put in it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Magoo 226 #229 Posted January 16, 2020 I need to get a belt for the mule drive. I'm giving myself a headache trying to figure out exactly which to buy and from where. I know the part number or numbers, 102742 or 94-2501. The length listed in the Lubrication Recommendations, Drive Belt & Mower Blade Usage Charts shows the length at 103". I thought I read in some post that WH measured that from inside. All the belts I am looking at have the correct part numbers, say that the belt is 103", but yet some say it is an outside measurement. Something is not jiving there. Any recommendations? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Magoo 226 #230 Posted January 18, 2020 Mickey and friends have been busy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 63,272 #231 Posted January 18, 2020 Nasty rotten vile little @#$_&-+()/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 10,761 #232 Posted January 18, 2020 I always have a snap trap baited with raisins in my horse barn just for that reason @Mr Magoo I'm a 1/4 mile back in the woods off a main road, so of course I have lots of critters around. I'm up to 5 mice so far this winter. As long as we both know our place we get along just fine. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 63,272 #233 Posted January 18, 2020 I keep a trap in the shed with peanut butter... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Magoo 226 #234 Posted January 18, 2020 2 hours ago, ebinmaine said: I keep a trap in the shed with peanut butter... I have always used peanut butter too. Did you guys see my post about the belts? I still could use some advice on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 63,272 #235 Posted January 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, Mr Magoo said: post about the belts On 1/16/2020 at 3:51 PM, Mr Magoo said: I need to get a belt for the mule drive. I'm giving myself a headache trying to figure out exactly which to buy and from where. I know the part number or numbers, 102742 or 94-2501. The length listed in the Lubrication Recommendations, Drive Belt & Mower Blade Usage Charts shows the length at 103". I thought I read in some post that WH measured that from inside. All the belts I am looking at have the correct part numbers, say that the belt is 103", but yet some say it is an outside measurement. Something is not jiving there. Any recommendations? I did, yes. Trina and I do t mow with our horses so I personally can't answer that for you. Perhaps others could chime in. @pfrederi or @953 nut.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,168 #236 Posted January 18, 2020 Belts are measured on the outside what mower deck are you trying to use the one in the mouse nest picture doesn't use a mule drive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom2p 2,393 #237 Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mr Magoo said: I have always used peanut butter too. Did you guys see my post about the belts? I still could use some advice on that. I would not use peanut butter on the belts - especially the chunky variety as this could lead to premature belt wear seriously ... if you do need a 94-2501 / 103" belt - it can be a challenge to find a 'real' OEM Wheel Horse belt in this size would be a bummer to pay more $ for a lower quality made in Mexico version - so a NAPA equiv (6378 ?) or a Stens True Blue (248-103 ?) might be a good (if not better) option apparently many if not most True Blue belts are no longer manufactured in US (now India ?) - but could still be decent quality and might be able to get one for a tad over $20 shipped ( Stens 248-103 - try powerpartspros1 on eBay ) Edited January 18, 2020 by tom2p 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom2p 2,393 #238 Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) On 1/15/2020 at 9:16 PM, ZXT said: I've used tire sealant in the past, but it's always been Berymans. One or two pumps would do the trick, whereas Slime and others wouldn't have any effect at all. The store I bought that at stopped selling it years ago though so I've had more incentive to fix things right since then. I wonder what the wheel would look like with sealant in it if we used nitrogen instead of compressor air? slime has worked for me - sealed some fairly big voids although flat proof is a hassle and should be avoided if possible - it is basically a must on our property ... number of locust trees in a couple areas with or without tubes flat proof was the only way to keep air in our dirt bike tires when i was a kid riding in this area two really important things I learned early on - back in the early 70's Yamaha mini enduro days : rim locks and flat proof ( later years I 'discovered' the o-ring chain - invention right up there with indoor plumbing lol ) Edited January 18, 2020 by tom2p 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 63,272 #239 Posted January 18, 2020 On 1/16/2020 at 3:51 PM, Mr Magoo said: 94-2501 Rcpw has that for a good price with free freight. https://www.rcpw.com/toro-parts/genuine/94-2501.html @pfrederi ((I assume )) he's looking for a belt for a C120....? Not the pictured tractor. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,168 #240 Posted January 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Rcpw has that for a good price with free freight. https://www.rcpw.com/toro-parts/genuine/94-2501.html @pfrederi ((I assume )) he's looking for a belt for a C120....? Not the pictured tractor. However side discharge and rear discharge decks use different would rather be sure we knew what he needed. mule drive belts... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom2p 2,393 #241 Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, pfrederi said: However side discharge and rear discharge decks use different would rather be sure we knew what he needed. mule drive belts... deck pictured on page 6 ? appears to be a fairly current SD deck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Magoo 226 #242 Posted January 18, 2020 2 hours ago, tom2p said: I would not use peanut butter on the belts - especially the chunky variety as this could lead to premature belt wear seriously ... if you do need a 94-2501 / 103" belt - it can be a challenge to find a 'real' OEM Wheel Horse belt in this size would be a bummer to pay more $ for a lower quality made in Mexico version - so a NAPA equiv (6378 ?) or a Stens True Blue (248-103 ?) might be a good (if not better) option apparently many if not most True Blue belts are no longer manufactured in US (now India ?) - but could still be decent quality and might be able to get one for a tad over $20 shipped ( Stens 248-103 - try powerpartspros1 on eBay ) This is for my C-120. There is no tag on my deck, but it matches the profile for a 65-42MS01 which is the correct one for this model and year according to the chart. I will avoid the super cheap ones. It should be the 94-2501 / 103" belt. I could have sworn I read a post somewhere on here that said the blue ones measured differently. I noticed yesterday that one of my C120's has a blue drive belt on it. It is a 7478. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 63,272 #243 Posted January 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr Magoo said: noticed yesterday that one of my C120's has a blue drive belt on it. It is a 7478. Thanks 3 minutes ago, Mr Magoo said: could have sworn I read a post somewhere on here that said the ********* measured differently You'll find that there's a subtle difference in length and width across different brands. Basic manufacturing differences just like anything else in the world. Notwithstanding that, another reason reason for that length difference when we are talking about power transmission parts such as belts or sheaves / pulleys is the width of the sheave and/or belt. This can cause the belt to travel up or down in the pulley which effectively shortens or lengthens the belt depending on situation. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Magoo 226 #244 Posted January 18, 2020 2 hours ago, ebinmaine said: Rcpw has that for a good price with free freight. https://www.rcpw.com/toro-parts/genuine/94-2501.html @pfrederi ((I assume )) he's looking for a belt for a C120....? Not the pictured tractor. I found a Toro branded belt on eBay from a Toro dealer for $22.46 with tax, free shipping. Ebay Item number 283214198783. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 63,272 #245 Posted January 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mr Magoo said: I found a Toro branded belt on eBay from a Toro dealer for $22.46 with tax, free shipping. Ebay Item number 283214198783. Nice find!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Magoo 226 #246 Posted January 24, 2020 I had a few extra minutes today and decided to take a closer look at my 856 which I have not really done anything with yet. Mostly was working on getting it up on 4 inflated tires so I can move it around. There is a lot of dirt mixed with oil on a lot of the engine. The fuel pump is so caked up you can hardly make it out. I am not even sure if the motor is free so I pulled the plug to put a little light oil in there to let it lube things up before I try and turn it. I noticed that the plug was very sooted up with carbon. I need to get it out and get the motor cleaned up so I can see better what is going on. Next I pulled the air cleaner cover off and was surprised to find a fair amount of oil pooled in the air cleaner cover and in the throat of the carburetor. That is a new one on me. What would have caused that? It has been sitting for more than 10 years without running I know. I was glad to see that the gas tank is bone dry, clean and shiny as new inside. I about have the first C-120 wrapped up with just a few things left to do on it. The rest of the parts I need will be here tomorrow. I will probably start a separate thread for the 856 when I get going on it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,168 #247 Posted January 24, 2020 It would be a good idea to start a new thread about each tractor and/or specific are of concern. This thread is way to long to follow and try to figure which tractor you are discussing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Magoo 226 #248 Posted February 24, 2020 I finally got some time and some decent weather today and got back to the C-120 I have been working on. Everything is back together. I got the mower deck under it with the reworked mule drive with new pulleys and belt. I actually went ahead and cut grass with it. The grass was pretty long since it was only bush hogged in the fall, but with the deck set all the way up it tore it up. Pretty cool to see everything working like it should after all the work. The only thing not working are the lights. I was going to just leave them as is, but the wife is fired up and wants it all working! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 63,272 #249 Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr Magoo said: the wife is fired up and wants it all working This is good!!!! This means you have permission to go and buy more horses. And make them work, 100% of course... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Magoo 226 #250 Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: This is good!!!! This means you have permission to go and buy more horses. And make them work, 100% of course... Oh no, what it means is she now does not want me to sell the other 120, but get it going for her instead! 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites