The Adventures of Hot Wheels

[sjoemie himself 2,918]

Thanks @Pullstart

I was'nt aware of the hubs being 4 lug. Are those heavier duty than the standard 5 lug WH hubs? I'll take a look at the YT when I get back to our apartment. Typing this while at the restaurant with the GF 

[Pullstart 59,722]

21 minutes ago, sjoemie himself said:

Thanks @Pullstart

I was'nt aware of the hubs being 4 lug. Are those heavier duty than the standard 5 lug WH hubs? I'll take a look at the YT when I get back to our apartment. Typing this while at the restaurant with the GF 

The 4 lug hubs are BEASTS compared to the 5 lug flavor.  Why less holes and more strength?  I’m not sure.  They have much longer keyways, heavier castings, thicker flanges, etc.

[Handy Don 10,597]

23 minutes ago, sjoemie himself said:

Typing this while at the restaurant with the GF

Oooo taking a risk. Unless at my wife's request (or while she is away from the table), mobile at the table is not appreciated!

[The Freightliner Guy 1,326]

Is how wheels the same model as joe 

[The Freightliner Guy 1,326]

Wait no joe is a 1054 right 

[sjoemie himself 2,918]

@Pullstart are the 5 lug hubs a direct bolt on or did you buy/get/make some to fit?

Assuming the axles on the big wheel models are also beefier? 

[Pullstart 59,722]

1 hour ago, sjoemie himself said:

@Pullstart are the 5 lug hubs a direct bolt on or did you buy/get/make some to fit?

Assuming the axles on the big wheel models are also beefier? 

They are still 1-1/8” axles, same width and height keyway… so direct swap.  The 4 lug axle shafts have an RX keyway if I recall… they are a deep half moon and about 2” long.

[Pullstart 59,722]

@sjoemie himself

 

 

[sjoemie himself 2,918]

Quite the difference. Do you think the difference in hubs has something to do with the availability in wheels/rims and tyres back in the day?

[Pullstart 59,722]

9 minutes ago, sjoemie himself said:

Quite the difference. Do you think the difference in hubs has something to do with the availability in wheels/rims and tyres back in the day?

sure could have been 

[953 nut 51,682]

8 hours ago, sjoemie himself said:

Quite the difference. Do you think the difference in hubs has something to do with the availability in wheels/rims and tyres back in the day?

I think it is a mater of physics. Larger diameter tires will subject the hub and axle to more forces when they are cornering or have side force applied to them.

[Pullstart 59,722]

@sjoemie himself lug bolt comparison too.  Big one = 4 lug.

 

 

[sjoemie himself 2,918]

Heavier hardware makes sense, 4 studs to transfer power or at least clamping force instead of 5 means more stress per bolt.

Also the forces on the hubs are greater with larger wheels for sure.

 

Funny thing though.. on cars.. older and lighter(!) cars have 4 studs and the newer and thus heavier cars have 5 studs. Well around here anyway. To make it easier (not) the stud patterns differ between cars.. obviously