groundhog47 435 #26 Posted December 25, 2025 2 hours ago, SylvanLakeWH said: While the experts prognosticate on the tractor's original pedigree, please post the seat in the ugly seat thread. It has a very nice green patch... every little bit helps with global warming... That seat was so badly rusted, rotted ruined it got tossed shortly after unloading. I guess this one might suffice. New posting area I wasn't aware of. And I have a LOT of ugly stuff! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
groundhog47 435 #27 Posted December 25, 2025 21 hours ago, ebinmaine said: I think it should be a riveted tag? But I'm not sure. @WHX?? or @Achto Do you know? No rivet holes on engine shroud or below main controls dash. No raised portion showining evidence of paint over. Someone went to a lot of trouble to hide this horse. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
groundhog47 435 #28 Posted December 25, 2025 17 hours ago, 953 nut said: That PTO tells me it is a 1057 as well as the mule drive adapter. Also I noted on Tractor Data Manuals the picctures I couls ID it seemed cluth on 1056 and 1055 was optional as only showed a double or triple sheave pto shaft pulley. This PTO disck is oversized or bell is undersized also. I noted that on day 1 but didn't concentrate on that yet. Obviously on nothing else either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
groundhog47 435 #29 Posted December 25, 2025 (edited) Any and all folks, forgive me, Merry Christmas and Prosperous to all you guys for spending help time on tis holiday!!! Edited December 25, 2025 by groundhog47 additional reply Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 53,540 #30 Posted December 26, 2025 11 hours ago, Achto said: I thought the 1057 had this trim plate over the headlight hole. https://wheelhorsepartsandmore.com/product/7416-toro-wheel-horse-escutcheon-plate/ Could be wrong though. Could be right too ... would make sense to only make one hood. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,888 #31 Posted December 26, 2025 For 1057 and 1257 from the illustrated parts list must be no hole in the hood. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 6,215 #32 Posted December 26, 2025 21 hours ago, WHX?? said: Yes late 67 early 68. The 4785 was discontinued and replaced by the ones found on many tractors since. WH61-90 _399c Replacement Steering Wheel.pdf 89.41 kB · 5 downloads Jim it is amazing how much information that is on this form. Something that you have to sit down and get a coffee and look at thanks for the post. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 6,215 #33 Posted December 26, 2025 7 hours ago, gwest_ca said: For 1057 and 1257 from the illustrated parts list must be no hole in the hood. Thanks, Garry. The only hood that ever had lights that I had owned was a 1067. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treepep 956 #34 Posted December 26, 2025 I have that same steering wheel! It was incorrectly on my GT-14 when I acquired it. I thought it was maybe off of an old car. Plastic was decent. Metal was f.u.b.a.r. I ground the plastic, welded the spokes straight, JB weld and some paint and it hangs in my garage. Welcome to anyone that may have a use for the cost of shipping. I do not have a use for it. Cool project @groundhog47. Not an expert.. I would think starter/generator should narrow it but.. IDK 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 63,395 #35 Posted December 26, 2025 Y'all are missing the biggest clue as to this Wheel Horse's model number and year of manufacture. The "Rust-Oleum muffler was only used on one mode, but I can't remember which one it was. 1 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 63,395 #36 Posted December 26, 2025 It is NOT a 1055 or anything else ending in a 5. It is not a 1056 or anything else ending in a 6. Both of those years used the short oil pan so it is obviously not an 1965 or 1966 model. The 1967 models had the hood hinge and tower raised enough to allow the use of the K-241s or K-301S which is what this has as pictured, 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sqrlgtr 1,626 #37 Posted December 26, 2025 13 minutes ago, 953 nut said: It is NOT a 1055 or anything else ending in a 5. It is not a 1056 or anything else ending in a 6. Both of those years used the short oil pan so it is obviously not an 1965 or 1966 model. The 1967 models had the hood hinge and tower raised enough to allow the use of the K-241s or K-301S which is what this has as pictured, 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 76,199 #38 Posted December 26, 2025 44 minutes ago, 953 nut said: 1967 models Nicely done Richard 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 53,540 #39 Posted December 26, 2025 (edited) 4 hours ago, Retired Wrencher said: must be no hole in the hood. Come to think of it yes was a decal. The short frames had the plastic plate??? Hard to believe the holes are not there for the id plates Ground Hog ... Edited December 26, 2025 by WHX?? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
groundhog47 435 #40 Posted December 26, 2025 On 12/24/2025 at 7:17 PM, WHX?? said: Guessing's over it's a a 10 0r 1257 fer sure. What yer plans for it? Even with the chunks missing that steering wheel is definitely restorable. At this time I've not many plans. Just trying to move a couple trailer loads of parts, tractors, implements, and and rest of shop to Texas from Louisiana where it all rests. I see what it is with steering wheel, spokes appear broken from outside and weld melted grip. Same as on Frankenstein L156. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
groundhog47 435 #41 Posted December 26, 2025 3 hours ago, sqrlgtr said: I suppose it could have been a cobbled together Frankenstein build. The engine type, under seat tool box and 4 speed transmission along with PTO engagement set me guessing the 65 66 years. I'll be prouud of it even as yard art like this restaurant guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
groundhog47 435 #42 Posted December 26, 2025 2 hours ago, WHX?? said: Come to think of it yes was a decal. The short frames had the plastic plate??? Hard to believe the holes are not there for the id plates Ground Hog ... I agree on engine shroud holes and dash holes. No one normally would go to trouble to hide holes and do a 1st grade paint job unless hiding something. If they were registered liscensed by state DMV I might could see if covering an illegal sales, but that's mre than likely not the case. And like I did or should have mentioned I'll do best to find tag or ID on trans as 65 appaers to have 2 4 spd and 1 same as 66. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
groundhog47 435 #43 Posted December 26, 2025 6 hours ago, Retired Wrencher said: Thanks, Garry. The only hood that ever had lights that I had owned was a 1067. No thank you for help. The hood also had the little chrome plated woodpecker notched thingy on but I misplaced it , badly corroded as it was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
groundhog47 435 #44 Posted December 26, 2025 3 hours ago, 953 nut said: Y'all are missing the biggest clue as to this Wheel Horse's model number and year of manufacture. The "Rust-Oleum muffler was only used on one mode, but I can't remember which one it was. You all have the greatest eyes for detail I've ever seen. Can is just to keep water out of exhaust port. It had when unloaded a rust deteriorated round biscuit looking muffler. Had a paint can from opening to get marble as have lost all of mine. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
groundhog47 435 #45 Posted 8 hours ago (edited) @WHX?? Steering wheel says long frame '67. Only models with that wheel were 953/1054 and 66 - 67 longs. Might find a very early 68 Raider with one. BTW those steering wheels are hen's Big battery box is pointing to a 10 or 1257. @gwest_ca Tag location @ebinmaine Tag location Ok, you guys, I like my crow cooked thoroughly cooked since I must EAT CROW. I was looking for tag too low on tower. It is riveted on just under bottom edge as told. It was heavily painted but steel wooled and brass brushed to as close to visible as could get. I found no, none, only shadow of engine tag. Starter appears off case as yellow paint. And now for rest of the story, it appears to read 1257 on tag. Thanks you guys and all the rest that helped. I learned a lesson for sure!!! Edited 7 hours ago by groundhog47 Corrections 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites