Derek W 25 #1 Posted October 26 I finally remembered that I hadn't shared a pic of my "new to me" 312-8. It's got some rust but, all in all, it's in pretty good condition and it runs real well. I'm currently hunting around for a muffler for it because the exhaust pipe looks like it was ripped off. The tractor came with a large "stack" style muffler but I don't want to use it. I'd really rather have an exhaust and muffler that sits closer to the engine. Anyway...here's a picture of my Wheel Horse 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,479 #2 Posted October 26 @DerickW , personally would get a lubrication soak going on that paint , looks like a perfect time to save and enhance patina . like penetrating oil spray down on all painted surfaces , let it soak / sit for days , before using a clean cloth mineral oil rub down . bet that will just show you a very good shine , also like a 6" electric palm buffer , and a cleaner wax , also like mothers , back to black enhancer . seat will be an easy swap , look on line , for matching seat frame bolt holes size diagram .also get the rear end drained , like a hi mirage , atf fluid as a flushing agent , put some miles on that oil , use every gear , replace shift boot . rotella 30 wt oil . is very good in those . give it a thorough grease job , also aerosol red spray grease , on linkage / levers . others will chime in on , their own ideas , welcome to the site , pete 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 62,368 #3 Posted October 26 Several people have been using a Gravely muffler and are happy with it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,765 #4 Posted October 27 Description: Muffler - Found on older garden tractors with 12 Hp thru 16 Hp engines. Measures: 8-1/4" L X 3-3/4" OD; Inlet ID: 1-5/16", Outlet ID: 1-1/4" Replaces Gravely 11203, 18543 and 20259700 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derek W 25 #5 Posted October 27 14 hours ago, peter lena said: @DerickW , personally would get a lubrication soak going on that paint , looks like a perfect time to save and enhance patina . like penetrating oil spray down on all painted surfaces , let it soak / sit for days , before using a clean cloth mineral oil rub down . bet that will just show you a very good shine , also like a 6" electric palm buffer , and a cleaner wax , also like mothers , back to black enhancer . seat will be an easy swap , look on line , for matching seat frame bolt holes size diagram .also get the rear end drained , like a hi mirage , atf fluid as a flushing agent , put some miles on that oil , use every gear , replace shift boot . rotella 30 wt oil . is very good in those . give it a thorough grease job , also aerosol red spray grease , on linkage / levers . others will chime in on , their own ideas , welcome to the site , pete Thanks for that flood of info, Pete! I'm not going to be restoring this tractor. This Wheel Horse will be one of the three tractors that my wife, daughter, and I will be modifying into mud mowers and trail riders. I won't talk much about the other two tractors because they are different brands. However, your mechanical tips have definitely been noted! I saw some mud mower videos, on Youtube, earlier this year and it really looked like a lot of fun. There is just something about the look of the Wheel Horse and I knew that I wasn't going to be happy unless I had one. Now that I do have a Wheel Horse, I am on cloud 9. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derek W 25 #6 Posted October 27 14 hours ago, 953 nut said: Several people have been using a Gravely muffler and are happy with it. Thank you for that! I'll have a look around for one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
702854boy 287 #7 Posted October 27 18 hours ago, peter lena said: also get the rear end drained , like a hi mirage , atf fluid as a flushing agent , put some miles on that oil , use every gear , replace shift boot . rotella 30 wt oil Since it is a manual use diesel or something as a solvent, still run it in every gear, and then fill it up with 80w-90 gear oil 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derek W 25 #8 Posted October 27 39 minutes ago, 702854boy said: Since it is a manual use diesel or something as a solvent, still run it in every gear, and then fill it up with 80w-90 gear oil I keep a spare jug in my garage just for diesel fuel, despite the fact that I don't own anything that uses diesel fuel.....it just makes a great solvent, as you said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,479 #9 Posted October 27 @Derek W as you familiarize yourself with your unit , important to make a regular , check over , a way to spot anything that is different , example , when I use any of my 3 , at finish , top up tank , add, a couple ounces sta bil fuel treatment , never let the tank go empty , check the rear end oil dip stick , check engine oil , look for anything , that might have given , you a sound or , functional difference , develop a squeak , or noise that was not there ? been doing that for many years , don't even think about , a vey common improvement spot clutch pedal , function , should be smooth / easy with zero binding , or sudden jumping at function ? like a penetrating oil first , make the rust run out , then an aerosol red grease , extension tube . for exact swing ease . how about your choke and throttle cables ? smooth and easy . responsive ? again penetrating oil , 3n1 is good , then after its better , like a hydraulic oil , like SUPER LUBE , stays with it , incredible temp , function range . just ask , pete 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derek W 25 #10 Posted October 27 19 minutes ago, peter lena said: @Derek W as you familiarize yourself with your unit , important to make a regular , check over , a way to spot anything that is different , example , when I use any of my 3 , at finish , top up tank , add, a couple ounces sta bil fuel treatment , never let the tank go empty , check the rear end oil dip stick , check engine oil , look for anything , that might have given , you a sound or , functional difference , develop a squeak , or noise that was not there ? been doing that for many years , don't even think about , a vey common improvement spot clutch pedal , function , should be smooth / easy with zero binding , or sudden jumping at function ? like a penetrating oil first , make the rust run out , then an aerosol red grease , extension tube . for exact swing ease . how about your choke and throttle cables ? smooth and easy . responsive ? again penetrating oil , 3n1 is good , then after its better , like a hydraulic oil , like SUPER LUBE , stays with it , incredible temp , function range . just ask , pete All of that is incredibly helpful! It's too much to make notes of, so I just took a screen shot of your entire reply and printed it out lol. All of that makes immense sense to me and, although I did consider some of what you said, I didn't consider everything that you said.....but I will definitely check and recheck all of that. Thank you sir! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,479 #11 Posted October 27 @Derek W we all look at the same thing differently , bought my first horse in 82 , still have it , very often look at another similar tractor , with glairing to me ,opportunity to improve things , can only make a suggestion , like , repetitive problems , ? why ? opportunity to eradicate it , its always there , always does the same thing , like to roller stool around it , and make things better . also like to protect my painted surfaces with lubrication , another experiment , years ago , to this day , my tractors get a lubrication rub down , clean/ shine / zero rust , also oil spray down my attachment's , my mower decks' are now , cleaned and oil sprayed , over winter , months of lubricant on a deck underside , eliminates , rust ,and stays with the metal . and don't call me sir , pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,765 #12 Posted October 28 14 hours ago, gwest_ca said: Description: Muffler - Found on older garden tractors with 12 Hp thru 16 Hp engines. Measures: 8-1/4" L X 3-3/4" OD; Inlet ID: 1-5/16", Outlet ID: 1-1/4" Replaces Gravely 11203, 18543 and 20259700 If I remember correctly the 16hp Gravelys were a twin cylinder so twin mufflers - one for each side. I would not want to use a single muffler on anything larger than 12hp. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derek W 25 #13 Posted October 30 I appreciate the muffler suggestion. I went ahead and ordered one and it arrived today. It's smaller than I thought it would be but that's a good thing. I held it in place and I like the look. I just need to get some tubing and get this welded up. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MainelyWheelhorse 2,113 #14 Posted yesterday at 03:45 PM (edited) @Derek W just a heads up something might be off with your clutch. Unless you’re in the middle of giving it a once over. If so carry on. @gwest_ca I’ve got a fairly short Amazon muffler on my C-141 with a k321 14hp it doesn’t seem to be overly loud or obnoxious sounding. Edited yesterday at 03:46 PM by MainelyWheelhorse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cleat 7,706 #15 Posted 7 hours ago 21 hours ago, MainelyWheelhorse said: @Derek W just a heads up something might be off with your clutch. Unless you’re in the middle of giving it a once over. If so carry on. @gwest_ca I’ve got a fairly short Amazon muffler on my C-141 with a k321 14hp it doesn’t seem to be overly loud or obnoxious sounding. I think it's the new style pedal that makes it look like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MainelyWheelhorse 2,113 #16 Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, cleat said: I think it's the new style pedal that makes it look like that. Ah, the stomp on it clutch…😁 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites