C175

[tmix61 90]

Looking to buy a c175 automatic was wondering where the tow valve is so I can push it I know it doesn't run will I need a special tool to open the valve not sure where it is?

[953 nut 62,119]

Many C-175s had the Eaton 1100 which has no tow valve, just move the direction control lever to forward.

[tmix61 90]

I thought all automatic had a tow valve

[kpinnc 15,678]

6 minutes ago, tmix61 said:

I thought all automatic had a tow valve

 

Eaton 1100 hydros do not. 

 

Sundstrands do have a valve. 

 

If you can get pics under the right side rear fender we can tell you which is which. 

 

Or- with the brake released (usually just push and release the brake pedal all the way) it will roll easily by hand if it is an Eaton. If not, it's likely a Sundstrand. DO NOT FORCE IT EITHER WAY. 

[tmix61 90]

The tractor is for sale 75 miles from home just thought I would ask if anybody knew. Now I'm scared to go look at it. I hate to wreck something by pulling it onto my trailer. I'm sure this picture doesn't help much but this is all I have to go by

Edited October 9 by tmix61
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[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,720]

If you get a chance at the tractor model number the transmission is in it.

01-17KS01 will have the Sundstrand hydro.

01-17KE01 will have the Eaton hydro.

17 = hp

K = Kohler

[tmix61 90]

Where would the tow valve be on a sandstrand hydro?

[Lee1977 7,375]

 Most C-175 have Eaton's .

 

[Ed Kennell 43,080]

The 1980 C-175 had the Sundstrand 90-1173.    The others had the Eaton 1100 that is safe to push

[Ed Kennell 43,080]

I believe the 90-1173s tow valve was a 7/16 hex head bolt on the left rear of the transmission.  Paul   @pfrederi may know for sure.

[ri702bill 10,019]

Or... lift the Rear with a floor jack to get it on the trailer...

[tmix61 90]

It's a lawn mower for sale 75 miles from home so I'm sure it's in a storage shed out in a yard somewhere from the looks of the picture so using a floor jack but not be the way to go how can I tell if it's a sundstrand or a Eaton by looking at it?

[kpinnc 15,678]

Wooden dollies at Harbor Freight are $12 each, and about the right size for the rear wheels. 

 

If you don't buy it, just return them. 

 

So long as you have a hard surface to roll to the trailer you'll be fine if it is by chance a Sundstrand. 

Edited October 9 by kpinnc

[c-series don 10,549]

You can easily tell by the filter location. Eaton is on the End. Sunstrand is on the Side. That’s just an easy way to remember. 

[tmix61 90]

You wouldn't happen to have a picture of that would you?

[Lee1977 7,375]

It's not a C-175, but this is the location of the trans. filter on an Eaton.

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,720]

Would item # 46 be the tow valve on the Sundstrand? Bottom of the page

https://www.partstree.com/models/01-17ks02-c-175-toro-garden-tractor-1980/automatic-transmission-1/

[c-series don 10,549]

@gwest_ca That’s it! It takes a 5/16” wrench, not a 7/16” like @Ed Kennell said. C’mon Ed get it together, you’re off by an 1/8” get it together. You should know better 😜😜

[tmix61 90]

1 minute ago, c-series don said:

@gwest_ca That’s it! It takes a 5/16” wrench, not a 7/16” like @Ed Kennell said. C’mon Ed get it together, you’re off by an 1/8” get it together. You should know better 😜😜

Would you have a picture to show me exactly where it would be new to the 175s I own a d200 I know where that is. LOL

[953 nut 62,119]

If it is a Sundstrand it would be a 90-1173 as pictured below. The push valve is circled for you.     Now go buy it and remember,   

 

[Ed Kennell 43,080]

46 minutes ago, c-series don said:

 It takes a 5/16” wrench, not a 7/16” like @Ed Kennell said. C’mon Ed get it together, you’re off by an 1/8” get it together. You should know better 😜😜

OK, you passed Don.   I was just checking to see if you were paying attention.    

 

Now dust off your Polaroid and get tmix61 a picture..

Edited October 10 by Ed Kennell

[tmix61 90]

Thanks for all the help guys I will be going down Sunday to look at the lawn mower at least I know I can push it and find a tow valve. Or if it has a filter in the back of the lawn mower I can just push it with no repercussions thanks again to all you guys

[Bar Nuthin 1,477]

14 minutes ago, tmix61 said:

Thanks for all the help guys I will be going down Sunday to look at the lawn mower at least I know I can push it and find a tow valve. Or if it has a filter in the back of the lawn mower I can just push it with no repercussions thanks again to all you guys

 

If it is the Sundstrand - that valve can be hard to reach and tight/stiff as all get out (especially with a tiny 5/16 wrench). If it's tight, work it a little at a time, back and forth.  I just ran into this on a C-141. But with a little perseverance, I got it freed up.

[953 nut 62,119]

11 hours ago, tmix61 said:

if it has a filter in the back of the lawn mower I can just push it with no repercussions

On the Eaton 1100 you will hear a slight clicking noise while pushing it, this is normal.

[Dan 312-8 261]

11 hours ago, tmix61 said:

Thanks for all the help guys I will be going down Sunday to look at the lawn mower at least I know I can push it and find a tow valve. Or if it has a filter in the back of the lawn mower I can just push it with no repercussions thanks again to all you guys

What I love about this forum. Everyone is always willing to help with the perseverance of this brand!